Fan Vote Sucks

by Adam T on Dec 22, 2005 9:02 AM CST in News

I am sure loyal Bears fans voting for the Pro Bowl helped get guys like Tommie Harris and Lance Briggs in, but it is those same fan votes that got Michael Vick to the Pro Bowl. In the NFL there are only 6 QBs whose QB rating are lower and every one of those six is in a situation where they were rotating with other QBs. In the NFC his numbers are only better than Orton's and Harrington's. So instead guys who had good years like Eli Manning, Kurt Warner, Mark Brunnell get snubbed.

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Disagree...

Michael Vick may not have a great quarterback rating, but are you really going to judge everything off of that? Vick does things on the ground that no other quarterback could even dream of.

What quarterbacks would a defensive coordinator would fear more than Vick - Manning, Carson Palmer, maybe Hassleback. Vick creates plays, and he messes with defenses.

I do think that you can make an argument for Eli Manning to be in the Pro Bowl, but not necessarily over Vick.

Also, I am not so sure that the fan vote has anything to do with it:

So Eli, one of the leaders in the fan vote, ended up as a third alternate in the NFC when the players and coaches added their say.

Vick was voted in by his fellow players and coaches. He deserves it.

Go Rex!!!

by big_lowitzki on Dec 22, 2005 10:16 AM CST reply actions

Vick Sucks...

I made a list of probably twenty QB's I would take over Mike Vick. He make horrible decisions, relies way to much on his athletic skills rather than quarterbacking skills and will never be a reliable qb.

by Chad @ Windy City Gridiron on Dec 22, 2005 1:37 PM CST reply actions

is that...

why the falcons have been to the nfc championship 2 out of 3 years? it wasn't their brutal defense, that's for sure. QBs are judged based on their ability to make plays that win games and there are few QBs in the NFC that are better than Vick at doing exactly that. And QB rating is for fantasy football wussies

rip papa bear

by dholl @ Windy City Gridiron on Dec 22, 2005 2:44 PM CST up reply actions

so by that

theory Orton should be in the Pro Bowl. He led his team on a 8 game win streak.

Listen, I am not saying Vick is the second coming of Ryan Leaf or that he didn't deserve the Pro Bowl he had in years past, but this year there were better QBs. Vick had a very down year, so give it to somebody who didn't.

by Adam T on Dec 22, 2005 3:27 PM CST up reply actions

note...

...i said "make plays to win games"-- vick does and orton doesn't. brunell had a horrible second half, warner only played part of the season (and 11 tds 9 ints? i don't think so) and yes i think eli deserved it. hasselbeck should start and it should've been vick and manning.

rip papa bear

by dholl @ Windy City Gridiron on Dec 23, 2005 10:33 AM CST up reply actions

OK then

show me the plays Vick made this season to win games. Everytime I see him, he is dancing so much he forgets to run forward or throw the ball and when he does throw it sails high.

by Adam T on Dec 23, 2005 10:48 AM CST up reply actions

let's see...

first game of the season against philly, vick rushed for 68 yards and a td and and threw for the winning score, threw for 2 tds against the bills, rushed for 2 tds against the jets, threw for the winning td against the dolphins, blah blah, the guy is the biggest playmaker on a playoff-bound team, period. and as far as a lot of people on this board questioning his quarterback skills, it's because he's different than anyone who's ever played the position. he extends drives with his feet and delivers a very accurate and hard ball. yes he's raw, but he is definitely among the top 3 qbs in the nfc.

rip papa bear

by dholl @ Windy City Gridiron on Dec 23, 2005 12:41 PM CST up reply actions

and yet

they are likely to miss the playoffs. Hmmm....

by Adam T on Dec 23, 2005 12:48 PM CST up reply actions

Not to mention...

That going into the Bears game, Atlanta was the #1 rushing team in football. Hmmm, rushing? You'd expect that of a team that featured an Pro Bowl caliber RUNNING BACK, like Mike Vick right? Ohhhhhhhhhhh, wait, he's a quarterback. He must have great passing stats, right? Ohhhhhhhhhhhhh, no. Not really.

by Chad @ Windy City Gridiron on Dec 23, 2005 7:22 PM CST up reply actions

well

then we will have to agree to disagree, because Vick isn't doing anything that is helping his team. Sure he can avoid the sack, thats great, but they already have two running backs. They need somebody who can get the ball down field, I believe they call that a quarterback which Vick is not.

I live in VA, so as a Tech fan I was rooting for Vick all along, but he has even outgrown my tolerance for his bad play.

Seriously, when was the last run he had that just broke a game open? That is why everybody says he is so good. I believe it was last year in the playoffs.

by Adam T on Dec 22, 2005 1:59 PM CST reply actions