PACKERS/BEARS- Game Thread

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by Chad @ Windy City Gridiron on Dec 31, 2006 7:20 PM CST reply actions

uh, last time "all blue"

lost to Pack at U of I, right -- MNF?

That's an ugly look.

by San Diego Smooth Jazz Man on Dec 31, 2006 7:45 PM CST reply actions

Pick

dare I say, forget about it 2-nite?

by San Diego Smooth Jazz Man on Dec 31, 2006 7:51 PM CST reply actions

And now fumble...

I told all of you Grossman lovers that we'd need Griese to come in!

by Bear z Fan on Dec 31, 2006 8:02 PM CST reply actions

This is stupid...

this is our first team out there. If we play like this, we will not win our first playoff game. having said that, its hard to really give 100 percent when it 100 percent doesn't matter.

by Chad @ Windy City Gridiron on Dec 31, 2006 8:06 PM CST reply actions

Another pick...

Geessshhh. I hate Grossman!

by Bear z Fan on Dec 31, 2006 8:11 PM CST reply actions

then again...

you know we are not going to show our newest and most advanced looks on d or o. Take away Rex's shitty play and we'd probably be winning right now.

by Chad @ Windy City Gridiron on Dec 31, 2006 8:25 PM CST reply actions

Unfortunately...

It's not just Grossman. Man, our defense sucks!

by Bear z Fan on Dec 31, 2006 8:34 PM CST reply actions

I can't stand this!

Get that loser out of the game! I guarantee you that we won't win any playoff games with the crud Grossman!

by Bear z Fan on Dec 31, 2006 8:38 PM CST reply actions

I think we'll get to see Griese ...

in the 2nd Half at this point. You think he's got the juice to bring us back?

I wouldn't ever go out to hurt anybody deliberately - unless it was, you know, important, like a league game or something. - Dick Butkus

by iowaBear on Dec 31, 2006 8:40 PM CST up reply actions

Yea...

...glad that Griese came in to "rescue" us in the second half. He looked great...

Oh wait...

visit the mindful mission.

by big_lowitzki on Dec 31, 2006 10:10 PM CST up reply actions

Wow ....

Is Rex going to acquire an even worse QB rating than against Minnesota?

23-0 at half in a meaningless game wouldn't be so bad except for the fact that we've had our 1st stringers in the entire time. And that the Packers are not a Playoff team.

I am not looking forward to the playoffs whatsoever at this point. We are playing like a sub-.500 team these past few weeks, for sure.

I wouldn't ever go out to hurt anybody deliberately - unless it was, you know, important, like a league game or something. - Dick Butkus

by iowaBear on Dec 31, 2006 8:39 PM CST reply actions

UGH....

by Adam T on Dec 31, 2006 8:42 PM CST reply actions

Out here, I have defended Rex to all I've talked with. I cannot defend him anymore. He looks hopelessly lost. It's time. Even if the lose tonight -- Griese hasjust 2 games to win to get to the Super Bowl.

Perhaps his performance is a...blessing? Would we want to see this in 2 weeks?? Rather NOW than then?

by San Diego Smooth Jazz Man on Dec 31, 2006 8:43 PM CST reply actions

let's see a show of hands...

who thinks the bears can beat a playoff team (any playoff team) with this qb? and this defense? and this tunnel vision coaching staff?

with the opportunity to play at a high level vs a motivated opponent, the bears instead drop a turd in the punch bowl of new years' eve. luckily, bets don't get settled on the half-time score; there are still 30 minutes for this club to prove they are contenders and not pretenders.

by dc60123 @ Windy City Gridiron on Dec 31, 2006 8:47 PM CST reply actions

And, for that matter

"Cover 2" seemingly means "cover nobody."

Also -- if A. Kraemer's sideline comments are correct

"...suddenly a sense of urgency on the Bears sideline.." (after 2 scores)

Where the hell was the 'sense of urgency' going INTO the game? Were they NOT prepared properly?

All of this is sickening.

by San Diego Smooth Jazz Man on Dec 31, 2006 8:49 PM CST reply actions

The Pack looks

better prepared for a playoff game...

I went to the Chargers/Cards this afternoon, and the Chargers didn't take the petal off -- they did pull Rivers/Tomlinson in the 2nd half, so the offense stalled....but that team is ready to run the table.

The only way they are going to be beaten (if the Bears can stagger to Miami) is by a veteran QB, attacking their defense -- Warner did well in the second half against the Chargers, who DID leave in their first string D.

by San Diego Smooth Jazz Man on Dec 31, 2006 8:52 PM CST reply actions

Chargers were

playing for homefield advantage.

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by thecubreporter on Dec 31, 2006 10:57 PM CST up reply actions

Kyle Orton...

anyone?

by San Diego Smooth Jazz Man on Dec 31, 2006 9:12 PM CST reply actions

We're doomed...

We won't be able to beat anybody...

by Bear z Fan on Dec 31, 2006 9:13 PM CST reply actions

There is not

enough alcohol in my house to make it through this game. Blech!!

by sue369 on Dec 31, 2006 9:19 PM CST reply actions

This must have been the

same group that was here during the preseason. The sky is falling, the sky is falling!!!!

This game meant nothing, one of Grossman's INT was deflected at the line. Griese was just as bad if not worse.

The D gave up 10 pts essentially.

Certainly not a great effort, but maybe we convinced Favre to stay for another year, which would be awesome.

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by thecubreporter on Dec 31, 2006 11:04 PM CST reply actions

Like I really needed to see a millionaire cry.

Spare me his tears.

by San Diego Smooth Jazz Man on Dec 31, 2006 11:07 PM CST up reply actions

As long as Favre

sticks around the Packers will never be a threat to do anything. Did anyone notice how many passes he completely missed? Besides the first drive, he was awful.

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by thecubreporter on Jan 1, 2007 2:22 AM CST up reply actions

On the contrary...

We had our first team defense in and were trying to demonstrate that we still had what we did earlier in the season and that Grossman (or Griese) would be able to help out the defense. Fat chance. I'm embarrassed as bad as I've ever been embarrassed. Go ahead and try to find a silver lining...I'm all out.

by Bear z Fan on Dec 31, 2006 11:11 PM CST up reply actions

No silver lining

but this game has as much meaning as the preseason games. Of course most people seemed to be panicking over those as well, so I shouldn't be surprised.

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by thecubreporter on Jan 1, 2007 2:24 AM CST up reply actions

Belated, yess...

...(and I'm sure it's already been said), but the silver lining could be this:

Who thinks this team's going into the playoffs complacent?

I'll take an ugly, ugly loss in a meaningless game if it leaves the players with chips on their shoulders and something to prove.

by Danimal on Jan 2, 2007 1:55 PM CST up reply actions

Are you confident right now?

I hope we all know this meant 'nothing' in the scheme of things, but damn, was that a #1 seed caliber team you saw out there tonight? b/c I saw a team, like the last 2 weeks, that truly is struggling to even be considered mediocre. I'll be cheering my ass off in 2 weeks, but I won't be surprised if, like the last 2 f'ing times, we'll get bounced, at home, by an underdog opponent.

OTOH, I will admit that Benson looked like a man amongst boys tonight, and I think we'll be in good shape if we play an opponent whose run defense is the weakest. That's all we can hope for at this point.

I wouldn't ever go out to hurt anybody deliberately - unless it was, you know, important, like a league game or something. - Dick Butkus

by iowaBear on Dec 31, 2006 11:15 PM CST up reply actions

Not so sure

about confident but who's team would you rather have right now in the NFC? The Eagles are the only team marginally hot and they still are going to have to count on Jeff Garcia and a no-name receiving corps and we'll have our whole team healthy in 2 weeks besides Brown and Harris.

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by thecubreporter on Jan 1, 2007 2:28 AM CST up reply actions

This is how you expect

a playoff team to perform? If so, it's one-and-out. I felt as if I was the only one defending Rex and the Bears all year. If you think all is well, you will be the one surprised in 2 weeks.

I now feel like a fool defending this team as the NFC's best. If you can't get motivated to play the Packers on national television, SOMEBODY's at fault -- either there's no self motivation, or shame on Lovie for not getting this team ready.

The Eagles/Saints are the NFC teams with forward momentum -- and the Saints didn't play ANYBODY today, so that game doesn't count.

The Bears peaked early. If this team wins A game in the playoffs it's a frickin' miracle.

Yeah, in Game 16 -- the sky IS falling. I kept denying it until NOW. I've been following the Bears since 1965. I know a championship team when I see one - it ain't this team. (Uh, the last one was 1985.) However, there's a championship squad where I live now. The Chargers will run the table against ANY NFC team.

At least the embarrassment is NOW, not in the Super Bowl.

I hope I'm wrong, but I've followed Chicago teams way too long, so I know better.

by San Diego Smooth Jazz Man on Dec 31, 2006 11:16 PM CST up reply actions

Don't get me wrong

not a very good game, but it should be treated no different than a pre-season game.

I'm not sure about the Saints momentum. They lost at home to the Redskins and also played a meaningless game today they lost and didn't look too great against the Giants to be honest. The Eagles do have momentum, we'll find out if that matters.

I don't expect the Bears to win the Super Bowl, there are at least 3 better teams in the AFC right now. San Diego looks great right now but Marty's got a history longer than anyone of choking the playoffs away.

Am I supremely confident we'll roll through the NFC at the moment? No. But I don't see anyone I'd rather be right now out of the NFC playoff teams.

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by thecubreporter on Jan 1, 2007 2:40 AM CST up reply actions

This IS

the year for Marty. He wants to shove this up so far AJ Smith's-you-know-what...

In retrospect, it IS hard to believe with minimal conversation between the Chargers coach and GM, this team isn't distracted. That was a major concern before the season. It's as if it all vanished, with the type of season San Diego has had.

I think when you have a future HOFer ar RB, and Smith was right about the ability of Rivers -- (Marty wanted Brees re-signed) there's smiles all around.

If the Chargers win -- Marty retires. If they fail, he's fired. Simple as that.

by San Diego Smooth Jazz Man on Jan 1, 2007 1:26 PM CST up reply actions

You forget one thing Rob...

Even if there are three teams in the AFC that are better than the Bears (I disagree as I only think that San Diego is better) we only have to play and upset one of them.

by Chad @ Windy City Gridiron on Jan 1, 2007 2:15 PM CST up reply actions

I didn't really forget it

I just think there's a very good chance that I feel we'll be big underdogs going in, if we're so lucky to get there.

And for the record, it's Chargers, Ravens and Pats. Colts can't stop anybody and there's no way they'll get there. Ravens are basically us, but the consistent version. They've also had some amazingly lucky wins this year and I mean luck like balls getting tipped falling in the right hands, not luck like forcing turnovers or having a return guy who's better than everyone else.

Pats have Brady/Belichek, as long as their against you, you need to worry.

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by thecubreporter on Jan 1, 2007 2:45 PM CST up reply actions

We're not that far off...

In our opinions. I totally agree with you Baltimore take. But I still feel that we are slightly better. As far as the Pats, I think they are not as good as us. Sure we lost in New England but they don't have weapons that scare me at all. Except for Ben Watson, who killed us.

by Chad @ Windy City Gridiron on Jan 1, 2007 3:00 PM CST up reply actions

well what do you know...

fans who were around for the preseason actually watched the final regular season abomination. who'd a thunk it?

the d gave up 10 points, and approx 4,000 yards. the only reason ahman green was not able to eclipse jim taylor's career rushing stats was that favre found so many easy receiving targets.

this team has been out to lunch for a month, not just tonight. devin hester allows them to win a track meet on monday night in st. louis, they beat the bucs in overtime after having them down by 3 td's, and stagger past a lion team they had drastically outplayed in sept.

griese's new years resolution must have been to spare lovie any possibility of a qb controversy. he succeeded beyond any shadow of a doubt; the bears are now proven to be a club that employs three backup qb's. grossman leaves the game having completed more passes to packers than to bears; good to see his "mid-season slump" is a thing of the past.

what is the difference between the 2005 bears and the 2006 bears, going into the playoffs? one thing only: a healthy, but crummy, 1st string qb.
the bears only saving grace is the competition in the nfc is dreadful, and they cannot face the "hot" club (eagles) in the 1st round like they were forced to do with the panthers in january 2006.

you may rationalize/justify/minimize this any way you wish; this club is not ready to play playoff-grade football.

by dc60123 @ Windy City Gridiron on Jan 1, 2007 2:41 AM CST up reply actions

Guilty as charged

I am rationlizing that we:

we were up by 22 over the Rams in the 2nd half and that Devin Hester is the best returner in the game right now and will be playing for us in the playoffs.

that we kicked the Bucs ass for three quarters and the D played like crap for one quarter before we still won the game.

and then we played 2 glorified preseason games in which we were 1-1.

anyway, we certainly haven't put a complete team effort out there for awhile, that's certainly a concern. The good thing about this team is that all 3 units are well above average (depending on which Grossman we get) and a complete team effort isn't always needed to win.

As I mentioned above, there isn't another team in the NFC I'd rather be right now.

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by thecubreporter on Jan 1, 2007 3:00 AM CST reply actions