Is It Better That The Bears Just Lose Out?
There is always this question that faces teams as the end of the season comes around and you have been forced out of the playoffs. Do you try to win your last few games or do you not put full effort and try to up your draft spot.
I am of the side that you as Herm would say "You play to win the game!". I don't like a team to give up, it is not the mentality that as a coach I would want. I do understand if you sit players who have been playing hurt all season and give them an early start on healing or getting some newer guys in to see what you have in them, but I wouldn't sit people just to up my draft spot.
That in mind, what happens if say the Bears win the next two games in let us just say convincing fashion. Maybe Orton averages 275 yards, 2TDs and 1INT. Is this bad for the Bears? Does it create false hope? Would you then be worried that the Bears might not address the QB spot if Orton shows signs of being a good QB?
Would it be best for the Bears to lose and for Orton to continue to be bad and Peterson continue to be mediocre, so that the Bears have no choice, but to address the positions in the offseason?
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As for Peterson, i don't know. He's a very reliable receiving threat out of the backfield, but until we fix the O-line, it doesn't matter about the running game. I think before he got injured, Benson was looking good. Get him a fixed O-line and another shot at showing what he's got. Maybe see what's out there in F.A.
For all the Rex haters, he's the best QB we have and i think that's pretty obvious with what Griese and Orton have shown. I was at the Skins vs. Bears game and when he got hurt, I knew the season was over. Griese and Orton just can't make the throws that Rex can. If you fix the O-line, maybe pick up a RB in F.A., and get a new O.C., please, then this offense could be very good.
The defense, again, suffered through injuries this year. I think the D-line is set if they can stay healthy. They are undersized so I would like to see a bigger DT to compliment Harris. Keep Alex Brown because he's better than Anderson, Anderson needs to go back to last year's role. If we lose Briggs, huge hole at linebacker. I would like to see us address this in F.A. or the draft. There is alot of talent at LB this year in the draft. Corners are set, maybe get some depth but safties are horrible. Without Brown, this D is just not very good. Manning and Arch suck ass. This is a definite need. Urlacher is still a beast but he can't do it all like he used to.
This is just my $.02 so take it how you will. I'm just really disappointed in this team this year and just hope that they can rebound and come out next year looking like we thought they would this year.
by McRipper on Dec 18, 2007 1:17 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
So just expounding on that
by Adam T on Dec 18, 2007 1:19 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
You know what
by McRipper on Dec 18, 2007 1:23 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Wasn't finished
by McRipper on Dec 18, 2007 1:20 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I do agree with part of that latter part.
by tyger1147 on Dec 18, 2007 1:55 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
MARION BARBER!!
The dude runs hard and can make people miss.
by thecubreporter on Dec 18, 2007 2:53 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Not a chance
by Adam T on Dec 18, 2007 3:31 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Sign McNabb & Turner
by phastphil on Dec 18, 2007 1:31 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
SIgn...
by Chad on Dec 18, 2007 1:52 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Um, McNabb is prone to injury
by iowaBear on Dec 18, 2007 2:31 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Play to win.
Like you, though, Adam, I think you try to not play any player that is even slightly injured. Fatigue and current injuries are the two biggest things that lead to future/worse injuries. (Obviously, after following luck.)
I'd like Orton to play well so that they can keep from re-signing Grossman. That would be the biggest mistake of this franchise. Fact is, drafting a QB is a must. Anyone who thinks Grossman is a reliable starter on a non-luck team (unlike 2006) is mistaken. That said, they can't keep Griese, Grossman and Orton. One has to go.
Orton is cheap and still has a "chance" to be a capable place-holder. (Grossman was bad when he first started, too, guys, why doesn't Orton get the same chance? If Grossman's struggles are because of the o-line, why aren't Orton's?) Orton's not going anywhere.
Griese is expensive but already signed.
Grossman could come really cheap. If they can sign him for two years and less than $5 mil. total, I'd be okay with that.
I think they need to make Orton the starter and draft a QB (NO EXCEPTIONS). Sometimes a team needs to take one step back to go two steps forward. Depending on Grossman's price, re-sign him for no more than two years. If Orton falters even a little, Grossman gets his "one last chance." Once he fails (because he will--or gets hurt as he has in 4 of his 5 pro seasons), depending on how the team is doing next year, they can either ride him out, switch back to Orton or give the rookie some time. Either way, I expect next year to be pretty rough.
If they can get one of Ryan, Brohm or Woodson, I'd be for that. If not, take an o-lineman. There are three intriguing offensive lineman in FA: Faneca, Lilja and Gross. Get one of those (they should have got my boy Steinbach last year and not cut Colombo two years ago-OY!!!) and draft 2 o-line guys (and a QB) in the 1st-4th rounds and they have a start.
Unfortunately, I don't expect next year to be too much better than this year (8-8 maybe?), but it will have some hope with young guys.
The number one thing this team needs to do is fire Ron Turner. If they don't do that, I still won't have any hope for next year. I think this is one thing that we can all agree on.
To answer the question a LOT more succintly: I'd love for Orton to play well while the team loses the final two games to get a better prospect. However, I don't want them to try to lose.
by tyger1147 on Dec 18, 2007 1:52 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Turner should go, and maybe Babich as well
I'm surprised that no one's mentioned the glaring hole we'll have at receiver next year, since Berrian's good as gone. Who's our deep threat if Rex comes back - Bradley? Can he even stay on the field for more than two consecutive quarters w/o getting injured? And since Lovie obviously dislikes him, where does that leave the team at that position as we head into the draft?
by Dmac on Dec 18, 2007 4:02 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Why is Berrian gone?
70+ catches
1000 yards
45+ first downs
great deep threat
Considering the QB/o-line/RB situation, what's not to like?
by tyger1147 on Dec 18, 2007 4:29 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I think the feeling is
by Adam T on Dec 19, 2007 9:50 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
How good is he?
by McRipper on Dec 19, 2007 10:01 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
What a jerk...
by tyger1147 on Dec 19, 2007 11:10 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Did you read my post?
by McRipper on Dec 19, 2007 12:18 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Great if Berrian stays, but...
by Dmac on Dec 18, 2007 4:38 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
We
by tacologic on Dec 18, 2007 5:07 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
1-1
by mike on Dec 19, 2007 10:27 AM CST reply actions 0 recs

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