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I don't know where these people were two months ago when everybody was hammering the Bears, but it seems everybody is getting on the bandwagon.  Maybe they are just now noticing how good we are and could be.

Wojciechowski has the Bears going to the Super Bowl again.  He unfortunately has them losing to the Chargers.

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My guess
is that they just saw how great this team could be from the play in camp and in the preseason, which mitigates opinion of Rex Grossman.  This is actually pretty much how I feel, I think Grossman is one of the 5 worst quarterbacks in the League, but I think Lovie is too smart and the rest of the team is so good to let Grossman sink them.

Bears could win this thing.

by Santos Sorrow on Sep 6, 2007 6:46 PM CDT reply actions  

5 worst in the league?
u have to be the dumbest asshole of all time

by Jbasic89 on Sep 6, 2007 10:16 PM CDT up reply actions  

He could be the worst
I was being kind.  

On the other thing, my friend, your a little out of your league.

by Santos Sorrow on Sep 7, 2007 7:36 PM CDT up reply actions  

A Bears fan in New Orleans...
This is off-topic, but it's not worth a diary about. I'm a Chicagoan living in New Orleans, heading over to the local bar for tonight's game. I always wear my Urlacher jersey when hitting the bar for games, but I literally CANNOT do that anymore down here. Saints fans HATE the Bears, more hate than I've ever seen (and I lived in New York for the 2004 red sox series). I don't know what you guys did up there when Saints fans came to town for the NFC Championship, but everyone here thinks that Chicagoans got together and killed their wives and beat up their children. It's really bizarre.

I guess it didn't help that the front page picture in the New Orleans paper that day was a Chicagoan wearing a sign that said "We'll finish what Katrina started." Oh well.

We are the Bears, the Shuffling Crew...

by maw150 on Sep 6, 2007 7:02 PM CDT reply actions  

I think...
That the Bears and the rest of Chicago were the only people not to get the memo that they were supposed to give up and roll over like the rest of the NFL and let the Saints got to the Super Bowl.  Some how that crappy town (crappy BEFORE the hurricane) felt it would be made whole again if the Saints went to the Super Bowl.

I feel bad for the poor people of New Orleans whose lives were ripped apart by that natural disaster but that doesn't give them some entitlement to think that they deserve to win a football game.  I actually find New Orleans Saints fans DISGUSTING.  (Not the people of New Orleans but the Saints fans)  

Let us not forget that Cajun slut and her "Fuck the Eagles" shirt.

/rant

by Chad @ Windy City Gridiron on Sep 6, 2007 7:08 PM CDT up reply actions  

I totally agree
about Saints fans being disgusting. And I have to watch football with them!!! And that's what sucks about watching the Bears down here, is this ridiculous hate. The Saints are the first team of any sport that I'm a true anti-fan - rooting for the opposite team, always.
We are the Bears, the Shuffling Crew...

by maw150 on Sep 7, 2007 12:06 AM CDT up reply actions  

And after tonight's game
i said 9 and 7 for the Saints?  I was high.  I should have said 6 - 10.

by Chad @ Windy City Gridiron on Sep 7, 2007 12:52 AM CDT up reply actions  

or maybe
the facebook group where thomas jones is stomping the superdome

by Jbasic89 on Sep 6, 2007 10:17 PM CDT up reply actions  

well i'm an asshole,
but i think if youa re going to ride the good will of a natural disaster you should be ready for some jokes coming the other way. can't exploit it one way only.

by mike b on Sep 6, 2007 11:15 PM CDT up reply actions  

and boy was that sweet tonight
Now I don't have to listen to these Saints fools talking about how they would have won the superbowl if they had beaten Chicago.
We are the Bears, the Shuffling Crew...

by maw150 on Sep 7, 2007 12:08 AM CDT up reply actions  

No...
... that is just silly.

"Riding the good will?"  How have they exploited Katrina?  It is pretty difficult to exploit something that literally destroys entire neighborhoods.  

by big_lowitzki on Sep 7, 2007 10:20 AM CDT up reply actions  

maybe exploit
isn't the right word when referring to the Saints, but if the main story of your footbal season is somehting non football related and you've used it (or the media has pushed it on you, whatever...) to become america's team then you should expect people to eventually go the other way with it.

obviously some people exploited Katrina, anyone who got a new tv from FEMA relief card or misused other resources did.

by mike b on Sep 7, 2007 10:38 AM CDT up reply actions  

media...
if the main story of your footbal season is somehting non football related and you've used it (or the media has pushed it on you, whatever...)

You said it yourself.

The media pushed the story, not the Saints.  Or even the city.  It was the media.

obviously some people exploited Katrina, anyone who got a new tv from FEMA relief card or misused other resources did.

Yea... the small minority tells us a lot. You do know that people are still without houses there, right?

by big_lowitzki on Sep 7, 2007 3:07 PM CDT up reply actions  

get over yourself
stop reading what you want to read. you asked how it was exploited, you were given two examples.

by mike b on Sep 7, 2007 5:39 PM CDT up reply actions  

HOw did they exploit Katrina?
By saying somehow that the Saints run has helped heal the city.  Without Katrina there would not have been any "magical" Saints story to tell.

F them!

by Chad @ Windy City Gridiron on Sep 7, 2007 1:17 PM CDT up reply actions  

Who?
The Saints told this "story?"  When?

Media driven sensationalism does not mean that the team, or city, "exploited" Katrina.

by big_lowitzki on Sep 7, 2007 3:09 PM CDT up reply actions  

The whole town embraced it
You can't have a story about people and not interview them or show sign about katrina in the stadium.  They loved the press and hammed it up for the cameras.

by Chad @ Windy City Gridiron on Sep 7, 2007 4:14 PM CDT up reply actions  

That sign
In the literal sense, the Bears did finish what Katrina started. 'It' being the magical Cinderella carpet ride that was the '06 season. 'It' wouldn't have been quite so magical if the city hadn't been leveled. Everybody would have seen it for what it was: the Saints being the team that nobody picked to be good being a very good team. However, Katrina wasn't a free pass to the Super Bowl. I'm sure that a lot of Saints fans are also angry at the Bears since it was the closest the Saints had ever been to the SB after enduring many, many, manymanymany years of suck (see also: the 'Aints). Look at the grudge many Cubs fans hold towards Steve Bartman for causing the game 6 collapse, even though Alex Gonzales booted the grounder on the very next pitch. If Gonz picks that, its very likely a double-play and the Cubs escape a jam with the lead intact. Same thing.

But yeah, I can see how people would take that sign the wrong way. It did seem tasteless at the time.

Unleash your inner Grabowski.

by jrm78 on Sep 7, 2007 11:02 AM CDT up reply actions  

Wait!
That's too much of a stretch. Katrina didn't "start" the "magical story." It may not have been possible without Katrina, but that's different. The backdrop of Katrina made available an even more feel-good story out of an otherwise typical out-of-nowhere team.

What Katrina started was the destruction of New Orleans. And, perhaps more appropriately, the cause of feelings of despair and hopelessness. In this sense, the Bears didn't "finish" that, but gave those feelings resurgence. In a "literal sense", a Saints Super Bowl victory, for many New Orleans residents (but by no means all-probably not even "most"), those feelings could have been finished.

In any case, the sign was stupid and crass and downright wrong. Whether it's too PC, doesn't matter; it was morally wrong.

by tyger1147 on Sep 7, 2007 12:01 PM CDT up reply actions  

Still is...
It did seem tasteless at the time.

And it still is tasteless now, several months later.

by big_lowitzki on Sep 7, 2007 3:03 PM CDT up reply actions  

stain
All things aside, that sign will haunt Bears fans for years to come. And people will refer back to it to make the broad generalization that Bears fans are heartless, soulless schmucks. In that respect, that fan who made that sign sucks.
Unleash your inner Grabowski.

by jrm78 on Sep 9, 2007 12:56 AM CDT up reply actions  

Wojo will change his mind
the next time the Bears don't play a perfect game.

This be the man who wrote their obituary after the Packer preseason game...i mean final game of the season last year.

Visit The Cub Reporter (mvn.com/mlb-cubs)

by thecubreporter on Sep 6, 2007 8:38 PM CDT reply actions  

And the Saints
were who we thought they were....
Visit The Cub Reporter (mvn.com/mlb-cubs)

by thecubreporter on Sep 6, 2007 10:46 PM CDT reply actions  

Don't you mean...
The Saints are "who dat" we thought they were?

by Chad @ Windy City Gridiron on Sep 7, 2007 12:51 AM CDT up reply actions  

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