The Quotable Bears (Week Six)
We all know what happened by now; no need to rehash bad memories. Another negative to our loss is that out of all the Tribune writers, Rick Morrissey got it closest with 21-20 Falcons. Karma’s a killer.
BTW – In the postgame interview, Lovie said that Danieal Manning has a pulled hamstring. God just wants to pile it on…
Roll call: Yours truly beat out halfblindcubbiegirl, 141 to 140. The rest of the leaders are tempchad (124), HesterSteals1st (99), torch (82), and lopey986 (69). The one positive about today is that we ended up with over 1,000 posts on the game threads. It's a new record for a non-draft day thread, so thanks to all who joined in the conversation today!
Onto the usuals…

Lovie on the game:
“Tough, tough. I wish I could give you more words to really show you how bad it is, but I can’t. But that’s life. You have setbacks like this, but this one hurts. We had victory right within our grasp, but we couldn’t pull it out. The kickoff before we had kicked it deep and they were able to get a long run. Guys were a little bit tired. We felt a squib would be safe. We’d get them down and they’d have a chance of maybe one more play. We keep it in play and the game should be over.”
Lovie on Matt Ryan:
“Matt Ryan had a heck of a day passing the football against us. We’re normally pretty good on third down, but today it just didn’t happen for us.”
Babich on the defense:
“Injuries are part of the game, and when they come up, we just have to make sure we execute as a defense and that I put them in position to be successful. Obviously, that didn't work out, so we have to get better at that. We didn't execute as a defense, and that's on me.”
Orton on the game:
“If you don’t play a full game, you can’t win on the road. We have had three tough losses, but that is just how it goes. This was a tough one on the road. You have to play extremely well and we didn’t do it the entire game. We have a game against
Urlacher on the game:
“We didn’t play well enough to win. It’s very disappointing. Matt Ryan is a good quarterback. He played well. Bottom line, you’ve got to play better if you want to win.”
Tommie Harris on the game:
“These are the ones that really hurt, the ones when you think you have it in the bag and then, ‘boom,’ it’s over with. It's difficult and going to be one of those things that's hard to get over. We were 11 seconds away from a win. These are the types of games that really hurt.”
Hester on the game:
“It doesn’t even seem like we lost this game just because of the situation that we were put in. We came back and scored a touchdown and left them with 11 seconds on the clock. For them to come up and score in 11 seconds is bad on our part. We said that we have to start fast and finish strong and that isn’t something that we did today. We didn’t start fast but we did finish strong.”
Harris on his fumble:
“I laid on the ball and didn't hear a whistle and tried to get up and it scooped up underneath me. I was getting up. I didn't hear a whistle.”
Mike Brown on the game:
“We got a little taste of all the emotions of football right there in 30 seconds. It hurts when you lose both your [starting] corners, and then Trumaine didn't come back into the game. We got depleted in the secondary, but we should have won the football game. Charles is our best player in the secondary, makes a lot of plays for us, and he's a warrior. I wouldn't put it past him that he'll be back next week, but it does hurt when you lose your best player in the secondary.”
Lance Briggs on the game:
“The way the game worked out, we almost really kind of snuck one away. It didn’t matter that we trailed the whole game. We had an opportunity to win it and didn’t get it done. It’s sad when it comes down to six seconds in the game, but that’s football.”
Briggs on Matt Ryan:
“He played well against us. He took exactly what we were giving. He knew exactly where to go. He threw the ball with authority. He’s exactly where he’s supposed to be, in the league leading a team.”
Quotables from the WCG Game Thread:
“Special teams has not been so special this year” – beardown
“I’m not REALLY superstitious or anything, but I’m a little nervous halfblind isn’t here today” – lopey986
“I want to know how we can set up this many third-and-long situations and then get bent over and taken on them this often!” – cwyers
“Ryan needs to get hit a few more times. Maybe a sack? No no. That’s crazy talk.” – HesterSteals1st
“On second and 1 we run it up the middle with no fullback. Brilliant!” – tempchad
“What a dull game. When Turner’s 23 yard run (not for a score) is the only highlight the half time show comes up with.” – torch
“Not the tone I had in mind guys. Damn” – halfblindcubbiegirl
“We’re making Matt Ryan look like Brett Favre without the touchdowns” – NBA Observer
“Matt Ryan killed Ditka” – Illini0509
“Way to go defense!” – tempchad
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wouldnt firing lovie
be firing the other two as well??
by Jbasic89 on
Oct 12, 2008 11:40 PM CDT
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Let's say you could fire Lovie and keep the other two around.
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by ChiFan13 on
Oct 13, 2008 9:26 AM CDT
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firing Ron Turner
doesnt make our pass coverage any better, they suck b/c mike brown is done
by DaNate23 on
Oct 13, 2008 12:03 AM CDT
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They suck because our DC is putting them in a poor position to defend
Just sitting back in that soft zone all game long… giving WRs 10 yard cushions at the LOS.
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by SackMan on
Oct 13, 2008 9:35 AM CDT
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yes!
though the D needs to play much better, if our front 4 cannot generate a pass rush, to play the cover 2 is crazy. any decent QB will shred it to pieces. babich should’ve switched to a much more aggressive defensive scheme once it became clear nobody was getting to matt ryan…at least by the 4th quarter. and to play the cover 2 on the last play is completely crazy. yes, hamilton made a big mistake, but to not have 6 DBs all covering the sidelines from the chicago 25-40 yard line is terrible play calling by babich. we freaking knew what they had to run, but we didn’t put in the right defense to stop it.
by guy incognito on
Oct 13, 2008 1:02 PM CDT
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if you are refering to the last play
that was marcus hamiltons fault. if you watch the replay he committed to the flat route and was staring ryan down. brown hence was split second late, thinking hamilton had recognized the deep out.
by rahulsriram on
Oct 13, 2008 9:39 AM CDT
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wrong they were in zone and he let him go to the next level which was browns responsibility. He blew it..
by tfrabotta on
Oct 13, 2008 11:09 AM CDT
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Not typical situation
Yes, in a regular cover-2 the cornerback generally covers the flat. Hamilton flat out blew it. Why do you cover short when they need at least 25 yards? I’m sure someone from the coaching staff told him to cheat deep and cover the sidelines. Brown is not wrong for covering the deep half, he’s just supporting his teammate.
"I'm not so mean. I wouldn't ever go out to hurt anybody deliberately - unless it was, you know, important, like a league game or something." - Dick Butkus
by propheteer on
Oct 13, 2008 6:35 PM CDT
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I swear I was actually sick and not just sick
from watching the game.
The comment count is a record for a non draft weekend.
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by WCG on
Oct 13, 2008 7:29 AM CDT
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Lets face it
We are a .500 team if we cannot put pressure on the quarterback. If we can put pressure on the QB, we are easily a .750 team and with a satisfactory offensive performance we are close to a perfect team.
Babich likes to mix up the schemes and drop the DEs into coverage, but there are two problems with this. One, the blitzing linebacker needs a direct line to bull rush the quarterback, and two, the DE dropping into a zone coverage has to know where they are on the field AND where the receivers are behind them. The DE can’t see the routes because they cannot afford to look behind them to take their eyes off the QB.
Is there any other defense in the NFL that runs this scheme? It can work against the Eagles, but MIchael Turner is not a threat to receive passes in the flat or on screens. So why the heck are we running a defensive scheme as if it is Michael Westbrook in the Falcons backfield?
We really need a healthy Tommie Harris, but I’d take a smart Tommie Harris because we should have that right now.
I’m new at Windy City Gridiron. I’m active over at Blog-A-Bull, but I’m a diehard Bears fan and a real time comment thread during the game is great interaction to know I’m not the only one yelling the same things at the TV. BEAR DOWN!
by NBA Observer on
Oct 13, 2008 8:22 AM CDT
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Dropping D-linemen into pass coverage for blitzing LB's and/or DB's is the Zone Blitz
It’s been around the NFL since the early 90’s, put into fashion by Bill Cowher’s Pittsburgh Steelers. The coaches most responsible for its implementation are Dick LeBeau and Dom Capers who are fond of a 3-4 base. Still, it’s quite commonly used around the NFL even by teams who, like the Bears, normally work out of a 4-3 base. The dropping D-linemen are supposed to cover only short to intermediate routes. The purpose of this is to carry out the basic tenet of Buddy Ryan’s 46 defense (overload one portion of the offense with blitzers) while covering some of the wholes it created that were taken advantage of by West Coast offenses.
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by snley on
Oct 13, 2008 9:31 AM CDT
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I thought I've seen your name over at BAB
Welcome to WCG.
A lot of it really does come down to how the defense is playing. If they’re playin the usual Chicago Bears smashmouth football, we do amazing things. Just amazing. And then when we play like yesterday, we play like ‘bleh.’
The scheme’s of Babich’s are pretty common. His call for the last play was stupid at best and insanity at worst.
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by ChiFan13 on
Oct 13, 2008 9:36 AM CDT
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I have to put the focus of the blame on the game planning, not the talent.
They clearly put all their effort into stopping Michael Turner, instead of balancing their approach, or at least mixing up their coverage schemes enough to confuse a young QB. That same plan got them beat vs Tampa in a game they should’ve won as well, and they haven’t learned from it.
In game 1 vs the Colts, Babich was creative enough to confuse Peyton Manning. And yet, with a rookie QB going at him, he stayed vanilla all game long in his soft zone, providing the rookie QB with plenty of passing lanes.
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Updated on May 25, 2008
by SackMan on
Oct 13, 2008 9:41 AM CDT
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Possibly
The Bears got pressure on Ryan, but he made all the right reads and somehow threw the ball very well to a spot. Give the defense a break already, they kept the Bears in the game by not giving up TDs. Why is no one blaming Gould? His squib kick was quite possibly the worst I have every seen in my life. If he just kicked it ten yards further all this nonsense is a moot point.
"I'm not so mean. I wouldn't ever go out to hurt anybody deliberately - unless it was, you know, important, like a league game or something." - Dick Butkus
by propheteer on
Oct 13, 2008 6:40 PM CDT
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when the tits did we get pressure?
i counted 3 times the whole game ryan got a hand put on him. that is NOT pressure, not the kind you need to get outta your front 4 if you want to run a cover 2 defense, that’s for damn sure.
by lopey986 on
Oct 14, 2008 2:40 AM CDT
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How do you define pressure?
Maybe I’m being facetious but it seemed like in the first half we were getting to Ryan a little. Harris hit him twice, Harrison once, Briggs got enough pressure to deflect the ball once. Ryan was definitely making some nice throws off his back foot.
"I'm not so mean. I wouldn't ever go out to hurt anybody deliberately - unless it was, you know, important, like a league game or something." - Dick Butkus
by propheteer on
Oct 14, 2008 9:46 PM CDT
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good point
it is hard to define pressure. in my opinion if we were getting adequate pressure he wouldn’t have racked up 300 yards and no turnovers, but maybe he is just that good.
by lopey986 on
Oct 15, 2008 12:11 AM CDT
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whats the latest on
a possible trades with either hinrich or one of our many guards?
by rahulsriram on
Oct 13, 2008 9:41 AM CDT
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No rumors, little prospect that that changes
It probably changes as the trade deadline approaches in February, but all depends on how the team performs. Expectations are middle of the road.
by NBA Observer on
Oct 13, 2008 10:00 AM CDT
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.750?!?! "close to perfect"?!??!?!?!?
You think this is a 12-win team just by getting pressure on the quarterback?
I’d tell you to stick to basketball, but…….
by tyger1147 on
Oct 13, 2008 1:18 PM CDT
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lol
That you even take the time for this confirms your status.
by NBA Observer on
Oct 13, 2008 4:05 PM CDT
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tyger...
… i was thinking the same thing.
This team needs a lot more than a pass rush to be a 12-4 team.
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by big_lowitzki on
Oct 13, 2008 5:48 PM CDT
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Fire Babich
Rod Maranelli will be available soon!
"The trouble with the world is that the stupid are cocksure and the intelligent are full of doubt." - Bertrand Russell
by phastphil on
Oct 13, 2008 8:40 AM CDT
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as is Kiffin?
Lovie and JA both have new contracts. The Bears would have to eat some money on those, so I doubt that, but I wouldn’t be opposed to retooling both coordinator spots.
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by WCG on
Oct 13, 2008 9:57 AM CDT
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they'd never do it midseason
and didn’t lovie want to get rid of turner?
by lopey986 on
Oct 13, 2008 12:08 PM CDT
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Are you high?
"I'm not so mean. I wouldn't ever go out to hurt anybody deliberately - unless it was, you know, important, like a league game or something." - Dick Butkus
by propheteer on
Oct 13, 2008 6:40 PM CDT
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One telling indicator of the caliber of our coaching.
Neither of our coordinators is ever mentioned as possible head coaches down the line. Good teams from winning systems are constantly having to replace their OCs and DCs due to their being recruited as head coaches. That will never be a problem for this team. I don’t foresee Lovie Smith’s head coaching tree containing a single branch down the road.
by BigGeorgeTX on
Oct 13, 2008 11:26 AM CDT
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Minus maybe Rivera
Besides that, you’re exactly right.
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by ChiFan13 on
Oct 13, 2008 11:29 AM CDT
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My opinion...
…since I know everyone cares what I think: I had the Bears at 2-4 at this point, maybe 3-3—winning against Detroit and ATL, possibly against TB. So at 3 wins instead of 2.5, I’m not disappointed.
I mean, I am disappointed, because I think the team sucks and is mostly “old”, and I want it to be better, but that they’re better than I expected and have been in the games they’ve lost, I’m pleased.
by tyger1147 on
Oct 13, 2008 1:16 PM CDT
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27th against the pass
and its not because we are 5th against the run.
by mike b on
Oct 13, 2008 1:21 PM CDT
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If we can't stop Matt Ryan, we're in serious trouble the rest of the year.
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by ChiFan13 on
Oct 13, 2008 1:27 PM CDT
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Horrible game planning and coaching.
They underestimated their opponent’s QB… and gave him time to throw all day long… and large open windows to throw through. They chose to focus on stopping “Jim Brown” instead.
Same damn thing they did vs Tampa… and they’ve lost both games.
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by SackMan on
Oct 13, 2008 3:27 PM CDT
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Don't worry, we'll rally the troops this week!
Play with fire, the defense can taunt the “nobody gave us a chance” bit, and then we can come out flat after the bye. Does that sound like us so far this year?
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by ChiFan13 on
Oct 13, 2008 4:11 PM CDT
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No way
I don’t think there will be another QB who will play as well as Ryan against us this year. Maybe Rodgers and that’s about it. He threw the ball very well and with great accuracy. Contrary to belief, he was under pressure a lot and made great passes all day.
"I'm not so mean. I wouldn't ever go out to hurt anybody deliberately - unless it was, you know, important, like a league game or something." - Dick Butkus
by propheteer on
Oct 13, 2008 6:44 PM CDT
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I'm sure we all thought that Ryan wouldn't do much against us
Let’s start taking bets on Gus next Sunday!
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by ChiFan13 on
Oct 13, 2008 9:14 PM CDT
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Bad coaching
We have talent, it’s just not translating into wins. Examples of bad coaching IMO:
Fullback dive play ain’t working.
TE’s are ingnored for a full half in some games.
Forte was not thrown the ball in the first half yesterday.
Cover 2 is not working with Mike Brown (& arguably Urlacher) a step slow.
Babich was not aggressive at all yesterday in blitz calls in the first half when he had healthy CB’s.
The squib kick call.
Did I mention the fullback dive play?
Orton roll-out play call against Tampa.
Our guys are not “in-shape”. Country Club Lovie did not prepare these guys for grueling games. Lovie said himself they were tired. They’ve been tired in all three losses. THEY SHOULD NOT BE TIRED. They are in the NFL. I think this is the biggest indictment of Lovie.
Oh yeah, and 1 more thing, that fullback dive play needs to go.
by MuleTrain on
Oct 13, 2008 1:59 PM CDT
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I think the biggest negative is the
positive press that Orton loses due to Atlanta winning…This would have been a great week for Kyle, and certainly would have helped his confidence I think…
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by PurpleLineToWrigley on
Oct 13, 2008 3:52 PM CDT
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am i...
… the only one who doesn’t think that Orton played that well?
He had a very good last 10 minutes, but the rest of the game wasn’t exactly impressive.
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by big_lowitzki on
Oct 13, 2008 3:54 PM CDT
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I don't think he played great
But he didn’t do anything to lose the game for us as compared to our other problems (our whole D going soft, etc. etc.)
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by ChiFan13 on
Oct 13, 2008 4:09 PM CDT
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That echoes my thoughts.
I will say this though: if you let him find a groove, he starts to cook. Problem was, we didn’t do much at all in the first half to move the chains and get in any kind of groove. For that, I point the blame to coaching and play calling.
Heck, Atlanta even gave us a taste of the no-huddle, and it worked as it always does. I don’t know why we don’t use it again… especially after having success with it whenever we go to it! Pretty hard for the defense to cover anyone when they’re huffing and puffing.
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by SackMan on
Oct 13, 2008 4:21 PM CDT
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agreed, they need to unshakle Orton when the run game doesn't work
I understand why they felt the need to keep going to the run game, in spite of iffy results in the 1st half, but Orton has proved that he can go deep and loosen up a suspect pass D. And the Falcons definitely have a suspect pass D, don’t know why Turner rarely exploited it until the 2nd half.
by Waylon on
Oct 13, 2008 5:55 PM CDT
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Well...
The offense wasn’t on the field very much at all in the first half. It’s difficult to establish a good rhythm when your QB is on the sidelines.
"I'm not so mean. I wouldn't ever go out to hurt anybody deliberately - unless it was, you know, important, like a league game or something." - Dick Butkus
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Oct 13, 2008 6:45 PM CDT
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