Fixing the Bears Defense
We are nearing saturation on trying to figure out where and whose fault our pass defenses perforamnce is, but here is an article that attempt to fix it.
1Stop stacking the linebackers at the line of scrimmage so much to fake blitz.
The tactic has outlived its usefulness, and it isn't working. If having Brian Urlacher and Lance Briggs dance at the line of scrimmage and fake blitz has resulted in quarterbacks checking out of runs into short passes, then it's not worth it. They're inviting passes into spots they can't cover. Putting Urlacher and Briggs at the line makes it harder for them to drop into coverage zones if they aren't blitzing. And they're not blitzing effectively enough to keep doing it anyway.
The Bears D has their full arsenal of players back, so they can no longer use that as an excuse. If the scheme and the players do not match up then either change the scheme or change the players.
The Bears have something going on offense. Orton and Forte look to be the real deal. With some line help and a big time receiver, the Bears could have a offense that can contend. I'd hate to see that go to waste with a D that is falling apart. You would think the Bears have learned their lesson, the Bears have been here before just the other way around. The good thing here is that we know Angelo can draft defense.
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Fixing the D
This is a league of adjustments. The Bear’s opponents have changed to beat the Bear’s scheme, the Bears in turn are stale with their game plans and completely unable to make critical in game adjustments.
Predictability is the curse of the defense, our defense or any defense and to some extent last week the Bear’s offense.
It’s clear the outside technique of the corners is being exploited. The Titans didn’t attempt one sideline out pass of more than a few yards, opting for the gimme slant route open all day, as it has been, in addition to some deep seem routes.
One thing to do is to mix up the inside/outside corner techniques to make the offense guess. If our corners can jump a few slant routes for a couple a picks or at least pass breakups, that will create some confusion for the offense.
Next is pressure. We need to blitz with corners and safeties to generate pressure. Slamming a linebacker into a lineman is just D-U-M-B. We aren’t getting there. Effective blitz teams like the Giants, Eagles, and in the AFC the Steelers and Ravens, overload one side and/or bring pressure from a VARIETY of players and positions in well DISGUISED blitz packages. Our safeties and corners are fast and physical and our linebackers are fast and good in coverage. MIX IT UP!
The Bears have some good players on defense, but they are not being put in position to make plays by their unimaginative coaching staff. I don’t think Babich has the experience or intelligence to coach at the NFL coordinator level in a difference maker way. His sound bites after each repeat unacceptable performance from his unit are absurd. Smith is not very good either.
The players know this and the frustration is spewing out into the “almost regrettable” post game media comment, regrettable not for the potential of a comment that doesn’t toe the lame company line, but more regrettable given management’s penchant for retribution toward players who speak up (See Brian Greise) in the media.
by tomybear on Nov 11, 2008 7:58 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
The Cover 2 Scheme
has been effective since Lovie brought it w/ him. Ur telling me that for 3 outta the last 5 yrs. nobody could possibly find ways to exploit the Cover 2 but have now suddenly figured it out? Highly doubtful. Coincidence the system flourished under Rivera and has fallen apart under Babich? I don’t think the players are doubting the system at all, but are doubting the playcalling by Babich. Against the Colts in the season opener I thought bringing Briggs and Urlacher to the los was brilliant. It’s now worn out and ineffective in the passing aspect of the D. The cushions given to TENNESSE TITANS receivers frustrated me horribly. As tomybear stated mix up and disguise the D, plain and simple. I love Lovie Smith being our coach but Babich has to step it up as does our defense.
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by Acreman20 on Nov 11, 2008 9:00 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
seriously
why not put daniel manning back at nickel he has great speed, let him develop. Play graham instead of vasher we have all heard how well he was playing. Really is there any body in a our secondary or pass rush doin a damned thing
by jd4930 on Nov 11, 2008 9:44 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
briggs
briggs and urlacher cant do everything
by jd4930 on Nov 11, 2008 9:45 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
well...
.. actually, Urlacher can’t do much of anything, at least lately.
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by big_lowitzki on Nov 12, 2008 12:56 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Like it or not, this team's base defense will continue to be the Cover2.
The problem here isn’t that the league suddenly figured out this defense, which has been around much longer than most believe it is. This defense works when a team has the proper personnel. Just like the 3-4 won’t work without a big-time anchor tackle in the middle the Cover2 won’t work without a front four that is incapable of getting to the quarterback. That is what the Cover2 is predicated on. Once the Bears start bringing corners, linebackers and safeties in as blitzers the scheme falls apart, and not only that, but the players left in coverage need to play off of their receivers because they don’t have as much help over the top. If Babich continues to blitz as much as he has done so far this year(which is a lot more than most fans believe) he needs to get more creative with a)the types of blitzes he uses and b)who he sends in to blitz.
Another thing about the Bears defense: People look at this team and see how well we stuff the run and wonder why we can’t stop the pass like other teams that also stuff the run have. The answer is that any team in the league can stuff the run if it commits as many players in the box as the Bears did against Tennessee. The really good defenses are good enough to stuff the run with their front seven, leaving more players in the secondary to stop the pass. Babich had Mike Brown stack the box all day long against the Titans, leaving Tillman, Vasher and Payne to cover the receivers and tight ends. No wonder they played off of their receivers. Even with Urlacher dropping down to cover the middle the defensive backs still had to play off therefore allowing Kerry Collins to pick them apart on short slants off of three step drops.
The bottom line is that as long as the front four is not bringing the heat all by it’s lonesome the defense will continue to be picked apart.
by dakoose on Nov 11, 2008 10:28 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
3-4 defense
Interesting you bring up the 3-4, since I’ve been wondering for a while if the Bears personnel isn’t more suited to it than the cover-2. Both Harris and Dvoracek would probably be very good nose tackles, and I can’t help but think Mark Anderson would be a decent rush linebacker. Plus the 3-4 requires physical CBs, and Tillman is one of the most physical in the league.
Not gonna happen, I know, but it’s pretty interesting nonetheless.
by garsky on Nov 12, 2008 9:58 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I've been wondering that too
but Harris is too small to be a NT. Dvoracek and Harrison could probably fill that role. This is pure speculation but it sounds like it would be a beast defense in a Perfect World running the 3-4 with the Bears defense but imagine moving Harris to End and having Brown, Harrison/Dvoracek, Harris as the lineman and Anderson, Briggs, Urlacher, and Ogunleye as the linebackers. I know, I know, this isn’t Madden 09 but it sounds pretty cool.
by McRipper on Nov 12, 2008 10:27 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
No, it wouldn't work with Harris or Dusty.
The nose is much, much different in the 3-4 than the 4-3. It’s not good enough to be big, you need to be huge. That Williams fella on San Diego is pretty much what you are looking for in a tackle for the 3-4. Harris fits the 4-3 better and Dusty isn’t big or wide enough to play the 3-4 nose. As far as using Anderson as a LB in the 3-4, it’s a good idea theoretically, but who knows if he can figure out how to play that position. He hasn’t been able to generate any pass rush the last two seasons. He seems to either have lost some ability or more likely is just too predictable. And even with Anderson the Bears don’t have enough linebacker’s that can rush the passer. Plus, this defense is built around Urlacher who is the probably the most fitting Cover-2 player ever.
by dakoose on Nov 12, 2008 1:03 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
You can run
“the cover 2” when you’re in a 3-4 lineup. Are you people really this stupid? The cover 2 is a coverage scheme. 3-4 is a defensive alignment. They are not mutually exclusive.
by mikebdot on Nov 13, 2008 1:21 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
You're right, partially.
The type of Cover2 the Bears run prohibits, for the most part, pass blitzing from their linebackers. And even if Lovie did try this blen of the 3-4 and C2, it wouldn’t work because of the personnel on this team. Thats why nobody seriously considers swapping schemes. Teams that run the cover two as their base schemes don’t usually have the players to implement the 3-4. So no, were not that stupid. However, you seem to that arrogant.
by dakoose on Nov 13, 2008 6:12 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
the line can't generate pressure
if the QB is throwing the ball on 3 step drops to open receivers who are given a 5 yard cushion by the corners. i don’t care how good a pass rusher you are, if you are blocked, it is extremely hard to put pressure on a QB when he’s getting the ball out that quickly. if our CBs get to play closer and more physical (vasher seemed to imply this is what would fix the problem), like jamming receivers, the receivers won’t be wide open 5 seconds after the snap, meaning the QB has to hold on to the ball a little longer, which buys our line more time to put on pressure, which i expect they will. if we keep playing this soft zone defense, the good QBs will absolutely devour our defense.
by guy incognito on Nov 12, 2008 3:55 AM CST reply actions 0 recs
What,
is the three step drop a new invention? Teams have gotten pressure on QB’s doing three step drops in the past, including the Bears. This line isn’t able to generate pressure on it’s own at this point. If the Bears were to not bring blitzers the quarterback would have all day in the pocket and no matter how many defenders the Bears leave in the secondary the receivers will get open if given that much time. Lovie/Babich are forced to bring extra blitzers if they want to pressure the quarterback, and once you do that jamming receivers is not really an option. If any one of the offense’s receivers is able to swim past the jam then he could very well have nothing but grass between him and the endzone, and the fact that Kevin Payne was just switched to free safety doesn’t make this situation much better.
by dakoose on Nov 12, 2008 8:45 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
yes
you can get pressure if you cover the wide receivers, we don’t.
by lopey986 on Nov 12, 2008 2:04 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Not really
The defense is designed to get pressure with the front four. If they’re not getting there in time on 3-step drops, then apparently they’re not doing their jobs. Ogunleye, Brown, Harris and Anderson have to step it up big time for this team to make the playoffs.
"I'm not so mean. I wouldn't ever go out to hurt anybody deliberately - unless it was, you know, important, like a league game or something." - Dick Butkus
by propheteer on Nov 12, 2008 8:35 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
haha okay
well you want our guys to be absolute freaks and get to a qb in 3 seconds every time, not gonna happen. especially when its 5 or 6 on 4 in the offenses favor and the cornerbacks are giving 5-7 yard cushions on the receivers. the only way this defensive line is going to get pressure is if they get a little time to make a move.
the line and secondary have to help each other out. the defensive backs need to lock down their receivers which will make the QB have to hold onto the ball a bit longer and give the defensive lineman more time to get there, but we can’t expect the defensive backs to keep all the receivers locked down for too long so the defensive line is going to have to get pressure, but i think if they are granted even 2-4 more seconds we will see hands in the qbs face and more qb hits than we are right now.
by lopey986 on Nov 13, 2008 12:50 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Don't you get it?
For starters, opposing quarterbacks are NOT exclusively using three step drops. Just because Tommie Harris says so doesn’t make it true. Kerry Collins threw forty-one times, just one sack. Orlovsky threw forty-seven times and was sacked twice, but he simply lost his footing on one of the sacks. Matt Ryan threw thirty times, zero sacks. They sacked Detroit four times in week 5. Mazel Tov. They also got to McNabb three times. Nice. Greise dropped back sixty-seven times, no sacks!! They also played well against Carolina, registering three sacks. Two sacks against Manning and a hobbled offensive line. All right, I can deal with that. The bottom line is that the Bears have struggled to get consistent pressure on the quarterback in all types of situations, not just three step drops.
And Lopey, your point only holds true if the Bears use their base Cover2 package 100% of the time and only use their four down lineman to generate pressure. The truth is that they are using less of the Cover2 than ever before and while I don’t know the exact number, I seem to recall Hub Arkush saying that PFW has charted it and have noticed the same thing. Babich has sent a ton of blitzers, and when you do that YOU CAN NOT AFFORD TO JAM RECEIVERS. If you think that this aged and injured defensive line can get to the quarterback without a little extra help from blitzers you simply are not watching games. Ogunleye and Brown are a stop slower and the latter is better against the run and has never been a huge QB pressure guy anyway. Dvoracek is in there to stuff the run and the best pressure lineman they have is Harris and he isn’t anywhere near 100 percent.
by dakoose on Nov 13, 2008 8:09 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Telling it like it is
Again, the defensive philosophy is to generate pressure with the front four. I agree Babich has to mix it up a little in order to change their look for opposing QBs. That way they’re not locked in all the time and hitting receivers across the middle so often. At the very least, the linemen have to get their hands up to disrupt the timing or bat the balls down.
"I'm not so mean. I wouldn't ever go out to hurt anybody deliberately - unless it was, you know, important, like a league game or something." - Dick Butkus
by propheteer on Nov 13, 2008 11:28 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
i'm not saying we are in cover 2 100% of the time...
i’m saying the majority of the time i’ve seeing soft coverage from our high paid cornerbacks who are supposed to be one of the top 5 tandems in the league. if you wanna run soft coverage, by all means be my guest, but don’t pay fat ass salaries to have guys do it. i’d rather we play mcbride and graham in soft cover schemes and cut tillman and vasher and spread that money elsewhere (like our old ass patchwork offensive line).
and, you absolutely CAN jam the receivers when you send a big blitz, so long as your cornerbacks actually stick em at the line and don’t whiff. if you send a big blitz…say…7 guys, but you have soft coverage of 7 yards with your cornerbacks, all the qb will do is throw a quick pass to the outside thus negating the blitz.
by lopey986 on Nov 14, 2008 1:13 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
You be my guest,
blitz and play your corners on the line of scrimmage. You’ll get torched for at least four or five very fat plays a game. It doesn’t help that the Bears don’t have any good blitzers outside of Tillman and Brown or that the new free safety, Kevin Payne, is learning on the job at a very crucial position in the cover2.
by dakoose on Nov 14, 2008 7:54 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
As Some of you have said on here already
I can’t help but wonder if it Babich. Rivera seemed to have a healthy combination of looks and fronts and things and now he is a coordinator in a 3-4 scheme so he obviously is a bit familiar with that too. So he could mix it up more but it wasn’t Lovie’s liking. Babich doesn’t seem as successful.
Fire Ron Turner!!!
Fire Angelo!!
by GallopingGhost on Nov 12, 2008 1:26 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
If this continues, I think Babich is gone after the season.
Lovie won’t stand for his defense not performing well, especially when we have them all signed to long-term deals.
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by ChiFan13 on Nov 12, 2008 2:14 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Want to bet
He seems to be standing for it all season long.Listen to the players interviews, they don’t like him(Babich) either.Put the players won’t talk out of turn about the team.
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by warriorspath on Nov 12, 2008 2:38 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Bears in position to draft deep for defense
Now that the offense under Kyle Orton’s hot hand and Matt Forte’s multi dimensional run game is producing points at a league high, and there is young talent rising or in line to rise, the Bears can draft high next season for key defensive posts. They haven’t been able to do that as much, at least in the first round, the last couple seasons. The Bears need a free safety who is dominant in pass coverage because Brown and Payne are mainly run stuffers and tacklers. Stopping the run is covered, now lets stop the pass. With that included, Ogunleye and Mark Anderson have had a dramatic drop in defensive pass rush power, so we may need to be looking at defensive end as well. Maybe its time to cut the cord at least with Anderson.
by Oso Monstar of Midway on Nov 14, 2008 10:04 AM CST reply actions 0 recs
My wish list:
1) OL. They aren’t getting any younger. I wouldn’t be upset taking another OL with our first pick.
2) Good WR if available. Crabtree will be gone by the time we draft, so you can cross this one off. Maybe we’d get lucky
3) Defense. FS and a OLB who can play the run and pass (the anti-Hillenmeyer).
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by ChiFan13 on Nov 14, 2008 10:28 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Are you for real?
We don’t have a gamebreaker on offense? Forte is a very solid all-around back, but he doesn’t flash the explosiveness of an Adrian Peterson or Steven Jackson. He doesn’t make many huge plays, just a bunch of decent one. I’m not saying he isn’t good, because he is, it’s just he is not a gamebreaker. We have zero talent at wide receiver. Lovie can say anything he wants about Hester, but the kid will never be a number one guy. If he becomes a competent number two I’ll be shocked. Rashied Davis? no. Marty Booker? no. Earl Bennett, no? Brandon Lloyd, please. Our best pass catcher, Greg Olsen isn’t even that damn good. And like ChiFan13 points out, we still have major needs in the offensive line. Kreutz, Tate and Garza will all need replacements in about two years and St. Clair needs a replacement right now. Beekman is all right, but he’s being overextended as a starter.
And on defense, we have needs at nearly every position, although the solution at LB might be on the team already, either Jamar Williams or Nick Roach. We are pretty good at the D-Tackle with Harris, Dusty and Harrison, but one more couldn’t hurt. At cornerback we are also pretty good, and I could understand standing pat at that position. At safety, Mike Brown will need to be replaced pretty soon. He can stuff the run, but Payne is already good enough to play SS and is being misused at FS. Maybe Steltz eventually is a competent FS, but maybe not.
by dakoose on Nov 14, 2008 1:26 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I wouldn't mind taking a corner
If we can pick up the next Tillman or Vasher, having depth wouldn’t be a problem. Otherwise, you nailed it.
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by ChiFan13 on Nov 14, 2008 3:22 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

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