Green Bay Packers VS. Chicago Bears - Second Half Game Thread
by ChiFan13 on Nov 16, 2008 1:47 PM CST
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Ron Turner called for a terrible offensive series at the end of the half that led to three points for the Pack. Our run defense has also been terrible.
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I’d go with the hot chocolate myself. Don’t wanna overload the system. lol
I'M A MAN! I'M 22!
i hate third down
its demoralizing when we never get off the g-d field.
"Next year" sucks.
by halfblindcubbiegirl on Nov 16, 2008 1:50 PM CST reply actions
Watch a replay of one of last years games.
This year it’s trip over his feet and reach for the 20
Hester goes dive for 3 yards?
Maybe it is time to put Manning back there….
"Next year" sucks.
by halfblindcubbiegirl on Nov 16, 2008 1:52 PM CST reply actions
Our D is getting old ...
lots of guys hurt which never helps as well. But methinks this is what a defense looks like when a lot of its stars are getting close to past their prime. Not quite past yet, but close.
I'm not so mean. I wouldn't ever go out to hurt anybody deliberately - unless it was, you know, important, like a league game or something. - Dick Butkus
They have anti-aging pills.
Don’t know, that’s a good point. Let me think about that as our D continues to give the Pack its best day yet for rushing.
I'm not so mean. I wouldn't ever go out to hurt anybody deliberately - unless it was, you know, important, like a league game or something. - Dick Butkus
ray lewis is incredible
and they have a young stud on their d-line.
kinda like what we thought we had..
"Next year" sucks.
by halfblindcubbiegirl on Nov 16, 2008 1:56 PM CST up reply actions
bears just getting their asses kicked
everywhere on the field.
Why do they always throw to Hester when they need a first down.
He still does not know how to play WR.
Better punt that time from Maynard
now we get to watch the packers go down the field!
"Next year" sucks.
by halfblindcubbiegirl on Nov 16, 2008 1:58 PM CST reply actions
Yet another fantastic drive by the offense
I'm not so mean. I wouldn't ever go out to hurt anybody deliberately - unless it was, you know, important, like a league game or something. - Dick Butkus
what happended to the wildcat we were "practicing"?
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finally getting lots of guys to the football
"Next year" sucks.
by halfblindcubbiegirl on Nov 16, 2008 2:01 PM CST reply actions
unless its 3rd down
apparently thats optional
"Next year" sucks.
by halfblindcubbiegirl on Nov 16, 2008 2:02 PM CST up reply actions
I'm looking forward to the day when Lovie calls the press conference to fire Babich
I’m gonna make sure I burn a DVD copy for posterity.
I'M A MAN! I'M 22!
Unless they go on a long losing streak i don't see Lovie getting fired
he’s winning.
so even though he’s boring and bland… he’s here unless he starts losing.
"Next year" sucks.
by halfblindcubbiegirl on Nov 16, 2008 2:05 PM CST up reply actions
thats our signature 4th and 1 play
Thabo Sefolosha: His last name sounds like a disease, and his ballgame IS one.
by chibullsfan03 on Nov 16, 2008 2:06 PM CST up reply actions
reply button :)
Thabo Sefolosha: His last name sounds like a disease, and his ballgame IS one.
by chibullsfan03 on Nov 16, 2008 2:06 PM CST up reply actions
we didnt even get off the bus today
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by chibullsfan03 on Nov 16, 2008 2:08 PM CST up reply actions
Thayer going nuts over just that as well
I'm not so mean. I wouldn't ever go out to hurt anybody deliberately - unless it was, you know, important, like a league game or something. - Dick Butkus
its only a penalty if a guy in white does it.
but the officials aren’t the problem. we’re just sucking.
"Next year" sucks.
by halfblindcubbiegirl on Nov 16, 2008 2:07 PM CST up reply actions
i know
it would also be nice to have a team that didn’t suck at every phase of the game too.
"Next year" sucks.
by halfblindcubbiegirl on Nov 16, 2008 2:09 PM CST up reply actions
132 yards for their running back (Grant)
Wow
I'm not so mean. I wouldn't ever go out to hurt anybody deliberately - unless it was, you know, important, like a league game or something. - Dick Butkus
even if we lose, aren't we still tied for first?
"Next year" sucks.
by halfblindcubbiegirl on Nov 16, 2008 2:08 PM CST up reply actions
unless minesota wins
Thabo Sefolosha: His last name sounds like a disease, and his ballgame IS one.
by chibullsfan03 on Nov 16, 2008 2:09 PM CST up reply actions
and...?
think they’re getting better anytime soon?
No
but the season isn’t over.
and i don’t want to talk draft.
"Next year" sucks.
by halfblindcubbiegirl on Nov 16, 2008 2:10 PM CST up reply actions
The way our Defense is playing even if we made the playoffs
We would be one and done. Heck Detroit should of beat us a couple of weeks ago.
Anyone
want to stick up for Payne again as he chased the guy for the td?? hE SUCKS. Constantly out of position. PLease get Steltz in there..
Steltz?
no way. he’s not very good.
"Next year" sucks.
by halfblindcubbiegirl on Nov 16, 2008 2:08 PM CST up reply actions
no but he's proven he can make plays
and doesn’t blow every single play
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Payne's not great in covering the pass
but thats not unique on our defense.
"Next year" sucks.
by halfblindcubbiegirl on Nov 16, 2008 2:11 PM CST up reply actions
I was not sticking up for Payne on the last play.
Replay showed Manning let the guy run past him on that play.
wonder what Angelo's thinking these days
Having tied up the majority of the money into our great D, what do you think he feels about them right about now?
We have one of two problems.
1) We either have bad players and need new players to play Lovies defense.
2) We have a bad scheme and need a new Coach to take advantage or our players.
I’m going to go with the latter.
Ok, I'm not making excuses here, cuz we've played like shit all day
But the officials are making some ridiculous calls.
I'M A MAN! I'M 22!
So we hold but they never do?
god. this game is way more frustrating then last week.
"Next year" sucks.
by halfblindcubbiegirl on Nov 16, 2008 2:13 PM CST reply actions
Word is Hester will be taken out
and Manning put in for returns, so sez sideline guy for WBBM
I'm not so mean. I wouldn't ever go out to hurt anybody deliberately - unless it was, you know, important, like a league game or something. - Dick Butkus
so thats how you get off the field on 3rd down...
too bad our offense learned that lesson instead of the other side.
"Next year" sucks.
by halfblindcubbiegirl on Nov 16, 2008 2:15 PM CST reply actions
True
but I actually think thats a solid point.
we’re in pass mode. orton’s already gimpy.
"Next year" sucks.
by halfblindcubbiegirl on Nov 16, 2008 2:17 PM CST up reply actions
And?
its still a loss. and i don’t want to lose orton for longer because our hardheaded coaching staff can’t see a game is over.
end the game to save your future.
"Next year" sucks.
by halfblindcubbiegirl on Nov 16, 2008 2:18 PM CST up reply actions
whatever.
just take orton out. concede the game. if we miracalously come back, he’s eligable to come back.
"Next year" sucks.
by halfblindcubbiegirl on Nov 16, 2008 2:20 PM CST up reply actions
Halfblind, where's your usual happy-go-lucky attitude today?
It’s only making my day worse. lol
I'M A MAN! I'M 22!
its been a long crappy week
and there is nothing worse then watching your team get physically whipped on the LOS.
"Next year" sucks.
by halfblindcubbiegirl on Nov 16, 2008 2:24 PM CST up reply actions
Yep....have to agree with you.
On top of watching the Bears just get dominated, I get to write a paper today too. I mean, I’m not sure this day can get any worse….
I'M A MAN! I'M 22!
yeah
my birthday was on friday. and i feel really old. even though i’m not.
"Next year" sucks.
by halfblindcubbiegirl on Nov 16, 2008 2:28 PM CST up reply actions
lol
yeah it is.
and i’m playing phone tag w/ my best friend. we keep picking the wrong times to call.
"Next year" sucks.
by halfblindcubbiegirl on Nov 16, 2008 2:30 PM CST up reply actions
Yep, indeed
I'm not so mean. I wouldn't ever go out to hurt anybody deliberately - unless it was, you know, important, like a league game or something. - Dick Butkus
You and I don't wanna see Grossman
And we could see how Hanie reacts under pressure?
I'M A MAN! I'M 22!
THIS GAME IS OVER PLAY CHRIS WILLIAMS AND CALEB HANIE
LETS SEE WHAT THEY CAN DO
I have long....
questioned the ability of the the coaching staff dating back to their super bowl run. Doesn’t matter that there have been changes in the coaching staff between now and then. Their stubborn inability to make adjustments in the offseason, during game prep. and on game day continues to plague our team.
Horribe (non) adjustments, horrible game plans, horrible clock management, horrible decisions at critical times, all points to the individuals managing this team on gameday. Quite frankly, its surprising to me that we sit at 5-5 (after today) and still in the thick of the division. Even if we do make a playoff appearance, unless the staff gets an “Invasion of the Body Snatchers”going it will be a one and out.
I'm with you on this one.
we need to get rid of Angelo and Lovie.
i know you're joking
but that really sn’t funny.
"Next year" sucks.
by halfblindcubbiegirl on Nov 16, 2008 2:20 PM CST up reply actions
having worked with abused dogs
it isn’t.
sorry. this game is making me snappy. i want to kick something.
"Next year" sucks.
by halfblindcubbiegirl on Nov 16, 2008 2:22 PM CST up reply actions
That is why I stick to abusing Cats.
How can you abuse a dog?
During games like this you wonder ...
how we are even close to first place, in the first place!
I'm not so mean. I wouldn't ever go out to hurt anybody deliberately - unless it was, you know, important, like a league game or something. - Dick Butkus
we're not, really
packers beat themsleves all year and are unhealthy, the bears are just not good.
I agree, but it could be even worse (or better)
if you consider the two games we were up and then blew like we put uniforms on that said ‘chicos bail bonds’. We honestly could be first in this division even with this shitty (soon-to-be) loss today. That’s what’s sad. We’re an empty suit that could have an even better record than what we have.
I'm not so mean. I wouldn't ever go out to hurt anybody deliberately - unless it was, you know, important, like a league game or something. - Dick Butkus
or could be much worse
could’ve lost to philly, detroit and the vikings.
When I'm doing the Quotables piece,
I’m really looking forward to hearing Alex and Mike Brown talk about how they need to change things. Again.
I'M A MAN! I'M 22!
and this is just game 1 of the 3 game road trip
i’m so excited!
"Next year" sucks.
by halfblindcubbiegirl on Nov 16, 2008 2:29 PM CST up reply actions
I'm glad I don't do business in Wisconsin
The Cheese heads are going to have a field day with Bears fans this year.
Terrific to see you
And as long as you make me post a link to the thread, you will be offering the first person something.
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I would sit Orton for the rest of this game
The Coaches are asking for him to knocked out for the rest of the season.
I agree, play the back - ups
concede this game fart, might as well use the time left to evaluate if someone else can do a better job
Joe Buck
are you fing kidding me?? he is calling out that the refs missed a hold on the bears??? He is a jerk off..
besides the obvious scheme issues
what do you all think is the next step for the defense going forward? i mean, this is an absolute destruction, following several weeks of total destruction. besides altering the scheme (which won’t happen, obviously), what do you think realistically happens (if anything) for next week’s game?
nothing by next week
i think you need different personelle. you’re running a base defense that you are no longer able to execute well, and the guys running it are ill fitted for many other schemes. your lineman are "speed’ guys allegedly that allows them to get blocked down pretty much at will. need big athletic corners who can cover in man. the bears secondary really doesn’t look that athletic when comapred to other teams.
first game they've really been out of it from the beginning
Not even close – terrible reflection on Lovie’s big “get up for GB games” schtick.
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on DirecTV now
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by thecubreporter on Nov 16, 2008 2:33 PM CST up reply actions
sit the starters
At least get Harris and Ulracher out of there, put in someone (anyone) who’s willing to give a decent effort at this point.
they won't work
when you can’t complete plays down field. Everyone up at the line of scrimmage. Have we even throw a play past 10 yrds over the middle today??
Anyone notice
the shitty game Orton is having against a good pass defense or is it just me?
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Its easy to look shitty when the whole team plays like shit.
"Next year" sucks.
by halfblindcubbiegirl on Nov 16, 2008 2:40 PM CST up reply actions
Offsides & tripping
"Next year" sucks.
by halfblindcubbiegirl on Nov 16, 2008 2:40 PM CST up reply actions
orton brought nothing today
that grossman couldn’t have done
grossman would have sucked
as well…
my point remains from 2 weeks ago that Orton is massively overrated from beating up on bad pass defenses.
I hope both of them are gone after the year and they get a real QB.
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by thecubreporter on Nov 16, 2008 2:40 PM CST up reply actions
one game with a bad ankle
makes him overrated, grossman got 4 years. awesome.
actually
a season and a half….
grossman got about 2
it’s not about rex vs orton
it’s they both fucking suck
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by thecubreporter on Nov 16, 2008 2:43 PM CST up reply actions
wow
just when you didn’t think it could get worse
Grossman was jinxing Orton
from the sidelines
Good hustle from Forte try to chase him down.
"Next year" sucks.
by halfblindcubbiegirl on Nov 16, 2008 2:41 PM CST reply actions
I say our Coaches suck
Game was out of hand and we have an injured QB. Why not give Hanie a shot to see what he can do?
Another reason to hate the coaches.
At least Orton has a bum leg, Rex showed he should not be on the team
then he shouldn't have played
blame the coaches and Orton on that
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by thecubreporter on Nov 16, 2008 2:44 PM CST up reply actions
I blame the defense.
when you’re down and never get the ball you’re gonna struggle.
"Next year" sucks.
by halfblindcubbiegirl on Nov 16, 2008 2:45 PM CST up reply actions
the offense...
… scored three points. Three. That is all.
Don’t get me wrong – the defense was really bad, but the offense wasn’t any better.
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by big_lowitzki on Nov 16, 2008 3:30 PM CST up reply actions
get orton out of there
this is a massacre. he’s obviously not 100%. that he hasn’t been pulled yet is another sign how horribly bad our coaching is.
Great job Manning
Bout time someone show some friggin effort.
"Next year" sucks.
by halfblindcubbiegirl on Nov 16, 2008 2:44 PM CST reply actions
rather see him frustrated and annoyed
then laughing and happy in a game like this.
"Next year" sucks.
by halfblindcubbiegirl on Nov 16, 2008 2:47 PM CST up reply actions
cool
then he should look frustrated and annoyed, not whining about calls and looking to the referee and hanging his head after every play.
we got our asses handed to us
i don’t know how you really react to that
"Next year" sucks.
by halfblindcubbiegirl on Nov 16, 2008 2:50 PM CST up reply actions
Peterson
has to run that route to the first down marker
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by thecubreporter on Nov 16, 2008 2:48 PM CST up reply actions
it was 4th & 6
"Next year" sucks.
by halfblindcubbiegirl on Nov 16, 2008 2:48 PM CST up reply actions
why even throw that
down 31 points? petersons not breaking a tackle and going anywhere
HOW SAD
THIS DAY WILL LIKELY END WITH A 3 WAY TIE FOR FIRST AT 5 AND 5
Whats gonna be worse, the next 6 minutes of packer love or the week of sports talk after this?
"Next year" sucks.
by halfblindcubbiegirl on Nov 16, 2008 2:48 PM CST reply actions
is chris williams playing?
he should be in the rest of the way
why is cliffton gonna fall on him or something?
it sure isn’t gonna be a bear
"Next year" sucks.
by halfblindcubbiegirl on Nov 16, 2008 2:51 PM CST up reply actions
Williams is going to play on the Offensive line
It won’t take the Packers long to score.
4th quarter of a blowout
figures.
"Next year" sucks.
by halfblindcubbiegirl on Nov 16, 2008 2:52 PM CST up reply actions
isn't joe buck
usually digusted by things like suck chants?
Usually
but it fits today. theres “suck” and then how we played today…
"Next year" sucks.
by halfblindcubbiegirl on Nov 16, 2008 2:53 PM CST up reply actions
This is depressing.
I’m starting to play the “how could we have played any worse” bit through my head.
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Orton had a fumble.
"Next year" sucks.
by halfblindcubbiegirl on Nov 16, 2008 2:54 PM CST up reply actions
technically that is true but
it was 4th down
yeah the game was already pretty much over
"Next year" sucks.
by halfblindcubbiegirl on Nov 16, 2008 2:56 PM CST up reply actions
GB
GB played almost a perfect game. If you look at this globally we have a 3-1 record in the division still tied at the top if Min scores stays the same.
Next week we go to ST Louis and we better figure out a defensive game plan there. We still have a very good chance to make the playoffs and we control our own destiny.
williams should have played most of the 4th quarter
we were out of this game by the middle of last quarter – well, actually, since the opening kick. might as well get him some real game experience.
Jesus. we can't even not fuck up a field goal "defense"
"Next year" sucks.
by halfblindcubbiegirl on Nov 16, 2008 2:55 PM CST reply actions
Correct even when he was at Miami
They realized he was not able to be anything but a returner.
fwiw...
… hester has done a pretty solid job this year in route running and catching passes.
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by big_lowitzki on Nov 16, 2008 3:16 PM CST up reply actions
grossman too
runnin around like a madman back there stiff arming a 300 pound man.
god this was a horrible horrible freakin game.
Alright, I've been avoiding coming here today since I've been getting text alerts about the score.
But I’m just too damn loyal.
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Aww really?
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Freaking Channelsurfing took forever to load up
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you missed nothing
"Next year" sucks.
by halfblindcubbiegirl on Nov 16, 2008 3:09 PM CST up reply actions
Not to mention three weeks from now.
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So you're one of the reasonable fans that realizes that we're not the team that lost to Ole Miss?
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Good for you.
I hope that Bama shows up playing their asses off, because I want a close game.
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Yeah
our d versus ya’lls o should be decent. unfortunately our o against ur d won’t be
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JPW = pretzel?
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Would love to see a UF/USC game
Just to see which team is faster.
"Next year" sucks.
by halfblindcubbiegirl on Nov 16, 2008 3:12 PM CST up reply actions
Us taking over the world:
Them:
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florida...
… is faster, and it really isn’t even close.
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by big_lowitzki on Nov 16, 2008 3:15 PM CST up reply actions
You watched the game yesterday?
I hadn’t even realized that he really never throws from under center.
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I
watched pieces of it. I was playin beer pong and focusin more on that. He really doesn’t throw that much period. Turns around and hands it to a back.
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Or takes off himself.
Beer pong is always more important.
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Peace out, homie!!!
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Tampa Won
I can’t believe we are still in first.
ESPN commercial sad?
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Oh goodie.
More Tampa fans telling me how much the Bears suck. The same ones who told me all year that the Red Sox sucked. At least I have the Gators, and my high school might upset Lakeland next week (BIG might, as in like 100000000-1 odds).
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Too Bad
the gators are gonne lose to AL in a few weeks :)
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I went to Kentucky
I think the Gators are going to spank Alabama
Shhh....
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You crazy?
Same odds, but y’all are BDale, and we’re Lakeland. Although we beat them a few years ago, with them missing like half of their team for various reasons.
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Also, Basketball.
Beating Bradley, beat Toledo, gonna beat Syracuse.
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The Bears suck
and my excedrine hasn’t kicked in yet… but on the bright side: i have chocolate covered pretzels.
See y’all later I guess. Hope the film room breaks for the Rams. Maybe the won’t realize we’re awful.
"Next year" sucks.
by halfblindcubbiegirl on Nov 16, 2008 3:10 PM CST reply actions
Have Hester cover Holt again?
We need something to laugh at.
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Noah can't stop Horford.
That’s all I saw. I don’t watch the NBA often.
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Noah spent to much time this summer
smoking the Wacky Tobaccy
How can you spend TOO MUCH time doing that?
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It's not a problem for you or me.
But then again we are not making millions because we have the skills to be a pro. They only have a few years to excel and then they have plenty of time for the Wacky Tobaccy once they retire.
True
I don’t see why people like R. Williams and Josh Howard jeopardize their careers and lives smokin dope. Don’t get me wrong, i know the temptation, but it’s not worth it at all. If u wanna get fucked up get drunk till u retire. Then u can buy pounds of the shit and kick back, relax, and get zooted the rest of ur life.
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how...
… did this team win five games?
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Wow, 3 non-Lions wins.
We did play Tennessee well though.
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can't wait for the press conference
You think Lovie was defensive last week at the questions, watch out for the next one. Only so many times you can say “y’all aren’t looking at the same game I am,” crap.
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