Chicago Bears VS. St. Louis Rams - Game Thread
by Adam T on Nov 23, 2008 10:00 AM CST
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Chicago Bears at St. Louis Rams, Nov 23, 2008 12:00 PM CST
| CHICAGO BEARS (5-5) | GAME #11 | ST. LOUIS RAMS (2-8) | |||
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| Date: | November 23, 2008 | Location: | St. Louis, Missouri |
| Time: | 12:00 P.M. CST |
Stadium: | Edward Jones Stadium |
| TV: | FOX | Know Thy Enemy: | Turf Show Times |
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As this game goes, our season goes.
God help me, I’m prayin for a win. I have to start a 20 page paper today, and I’d like to be just partially hating myself after that.
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by ChiFan13 on Nov 23, 2008 11:44 AM CST reply actions 0 recs
great return
but that is where old Hester hits that seam and would have been gone.
by tempchad on Nov 23, 2008 12:04 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Welp, that was quick
I don’t like that……Bears might start to get complacent.
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by ChiFan13 on Nov 23, 2008 12:06 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Beekman with a "Bush Push"
got forte over the line
by tempchad on Nov 23, 2008 12:06 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
It wasn't just his great skills? Never woulda guessed.
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by ChiFan13 on Nov 23, 2008 12:07 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Anyone know why Roach is still starting?
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by ChiFan13 on Nov 23, 2008 12:10 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
i think hillenmeyer
was losing favor even beforee he got hurt. he wasn’t inactive like someone reported a couple weeks ago
by mike b on Nov 23, 2008 12:13 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
For sure, but
I’m more curious why they’re not trying Jamar Williams in there too….since this week was “back to basics.”
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by ChiFan13 on Nov 23, 2008 12:14 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
how do you call that play?
hmmm worked for the bears. Lets try it!
(i know they script them on mnay teams)
by tempchad on Nov 23, 2008 12:10 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
first sack in how many games?
Thabo Sefolosha: His last name sounds like a disease, and his ballgame IS one.
by chibullsfan03 on Nov 23, 2008 12:12 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
119 dropbacks.
BTW – Love the sig.
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by ChiFan13 on Nov 23, 2008 12:13 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
^ thanks lol
Thabo Sefolosha: His last name sounds like a disease, and his ballgame IS one.
by chibullsfan03 on Nov 23, 2008 12:14 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
What time do we have tipoff tonight, 8?
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by ChiFan13 on Nov 23, 2008 12:15 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
yup. comcast sportsnet has it i think
Thabo Sefolosha: His last name sounds like a disease, and his ballgame IS one.
by chibullsfan03 on Nov 23, 2008 12:16 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Good offensive series, then bad offensive series.
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by ChiFan13 on Nov 23, 2008 12:18 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Hell happened to Bulger? Looked like a normal hit...
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by ChiFan13 on Nov 23, 2008 12:21 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
So is Hester
Dammit…
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by ChiFan13 on Nov 23, 2008 12:23 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Well, I know he's good....
but he’s just frustrating to watch returning kicks.
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by ChiFan13 on Nov 23, 2008 12:28 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Not sure our defense has come alive....
or the Rams make us look good.
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by ChiFan13 on Nov 23, 2008 12:23 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
lol @ wildcat
Thabo Sefolosha: His last name sounds like a disease, and his ballgame IS one.
by chibullsfan03 on Nov 23, 2008 12:28 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Is this the Devin Hester drive?
And why do you want a new center mike?
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by ChiFan13 on Nov 23, 2008 12:28 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
i think kreutz
has been done for about a year now.
by mike b on Nov 23, 2008 12:36 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
who is 67, beekman?
comes around the end with a sea of blue ahead of him and he hits no one.
wtg!
by tempchad on Nov 23, 2008 12:29 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Why?
Why McKie? lol
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by ChiFan13 on Nov 23, 2008 12:32 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
YESSSSS!
AARON MCKIE!!!!!!!! HE WILL LEAD THE WAY!!!!
by tempchad on Nov 23, 2008 12:32 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Yummy!!!
Yummy, yummy
I'm not so mean. I wouldn't ever go out to hurt anybody deliberately - unless it was, you know, important, like a league game or something. - Dick Butkus
by iowaBear on Nov 23, 2008 12:33 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Tommie Harris sighting
Thabo Sefolosha: His last name sounds like a disease, and his ballgame IS one.
by chibullsfan03 on Nov 23, 2008 12:37 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
hey guys
wish we could play the rams every week!!!
by tfrabotta on Nov 23, 2008 12:38 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
I wish I could feel this good about the Bears every week.
At the same time, they are REALLY bad, so we can’t take anything from this win.
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by ChiFan13 on Nov 23, 2008 12:39 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
just need
to try and get the offense back in synch this week for the upcoming weeks
by tfrabotta on Nov 23, 2008 12:40 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
God I hope you're right.
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by ChiFan13 on Nov 23, 2008 12:41 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Well
they haven’t won yet. But this is fun to watch so far.
by NotMyForte on Nov 23, 2008 12:39 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
lol @ the kicker
i lip-read “thats bullshttt”
Thabo Sefolosha: His last name sounds like a disease, and his ballgame IS one.
by chibullsfan03 on Nov 23, 2008 12:40 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Dodged one there
I'm not so mean. I wouldn't ever go out to hurt anybody deliberately - unless it was, you know, important, like a league game or something. - Dick Butkus
by iowaBear on Nov 23, 2008 12:41 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Did I just hear Rideau was in?
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by ChiFan13 on Nov 23, 2008 12:43 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Rideau
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by Acreman20 on Nov 23, 2008 12:43 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
What's it look like?
For those of us who don’t have the game
I'm not so mean. I wouldn't ever go out to hurt anybody deliberately - unless it was, you know, important, like a league game or something. - Dick Butkus
by iowaBear on Nov 23, 2008 12:46 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
iowaBear....where do you live?
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by ChiFan13 on Nov 23, 2008 12:50 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Well, most everyone was down on the ground
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by ChiFan13 on Nov 23, 2008 12:49 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
So wait a minute....
The refs just called a fumble because someone stripped the ball when Forte was most likely on the ground?
Is it possible for the refs to be worse than the Rams?
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by ChiFan13 on Nov 23, 2008 12:46 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
LOL thats really the only camera angle they have?
Thabo Sefolosha: His last name sounds like a disease, and his ballgame IS one.
by chibullsfan03 on Nov 23, 2008 12:49 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
might be a bad call
but a horrible challenge.
by mike b on Nov 23, 2008 12:49 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
couln't they have challenged
on that damn 5 minute commercial break???
by tfrabotta on Nov 23, 2008 12:49 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Kerry Collins
2/10 for 15 yards…now he comes back to realty..
by tfrabotta on Nov 23, 2008 12:51 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Come on MB....gotta have it.
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by ChiFan13 on Nov 23, 2008 12:52 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
can i get an explanation i have the sound off
listening to new guns and roses
by tempchad on Nov 23, 2008 12:54 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Don't trust Illini fans
with guns this weekend
by beardown on Nov 23, 2008 12:57 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
the season was a while ago
yesterday was just the final kick in the nuts
by tempchad on Nov 23, 2008 1:01 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
the ref stuttered so much explaining it
sounded like he was making the rule up on the fly lol
Thabo Sefolosha: His last name sounds like a disease, and his ballgame IS one.
by chibullsfan03 on Nov 23, 2008 12:55 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Rule is
on a fake punt you can hit the wr???
by tfrabotta on Nov 23, 2008 12:55 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
in punt formation he said
Thabo Sefolosha: His last name sounds like a disease, and his ballgame IS one.
by chibullsfan03 on Nov 23, 2008 12:56 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
apparently
but only when he throws it according to the ref
by mike b on Nov 23, 2008 12:56 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
DET beating TB???
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by Acreman20 on Nov 23, 2008 12:56 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
so in punt for formation there is no PI?
strange rule
by tempchad on Nov 23, 2008 12:57 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
makes me sick
flicking to these other games and watching these guys making the league minimum going up field making guys miss for nice punt returns…
by tfrabotta on Nov 23, 2008 12:57 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
FORTE
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by Acreman20 on Nov 23, 2008 12:57 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
well good thing we are
showing all the new tricks against a shit team we probably don’t need to use them against
by mike b on Nov 23, 2008 12:58 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
rams are terrible
that is alll….
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by thecubreporter on Nov 23, 2008 12:58 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Well, I suppose there is an explanation why you're a glass half-empty
You’re a Cubs fan. lol
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by ChiFan13 on Nov 23, 2008 12:58 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
He is THE Cubs Fan
with THE cubs blog, baby!
I'm not so mean. I wouldn't ever go out to hurt anybody deliberately - unless it was, you know, important, like a league game or something. - Dick Butkus
by iowaBear on Nov 23, 2008 1:02 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Detroit was terrible
… and the Bears made it a close game
by beardown on Nov 23, 2008 12:59 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
LOL the Rams really are a disgrace to the game.
Awesome run by Forte
by NotMyForte on Nov 23, 2008 12:59 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Ya know, the one thing that I want from this game
is for Forte to have a 150-yard performance.
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by ChiFan13 on Nov 23, 2008 1:00 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
so we can
hear people stop whining about his 3.8 avg.. the kid is awesome..
by tfrabotta on Nov 23, 2008 1:01 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
the whining
is usually directed t the o line.
by mike b on Nov 23, 2008 1:02 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Our OL does suck
But he has a ton of talent and a load of potential. I just want the best for the kid.
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by ChiFan13 on Nov 23, 2008 1:03 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Nick Roach
has been looking good..bye bye HH
by tfrabotta on Nov 23, 2008 1:03 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Now this is Lovie Defense
That we have learned to loathe.
by beardown on Nov 23, 2008 1:03 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Payne
not 30 yards down field. See how you can make a play…
by tfrabotta on Nov 23, 2008 1:06 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Is Chris Williams playing today?
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by Acreman20 on Nov 23, 2008 1:09 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Chad, what are you giving away today?
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by ChiFan13 on Nov 23, 2008 1:09 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
you have no idea what kind of answer that would have gotten you if were were
doing a live chat at thecubreporter.com
by tempchad on Nov 23, 2008 1:15 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Well, what answer would I have gotten?
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by ChiFan13 on Nov 23, 2008 1:17 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
AP
running downhill..K Jones 3rd string
by tfrabotta on Nov 23, 2008 1:09 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
well
if only we could play the lions and rams every game for the rest of year!
by lopey986 on Nov 23, 2008 1:09 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
good call resting forte
I kinda wanna see KJ though
Thabo Sefolosha: His last name sounds like a disease, and his ballgame IS one.
by chibullsfan03 on Nov 23, 2008 1:10 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
I'd rather
see Wolfe. KJ is outta here after the season
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by Acreman20 on Nov 23, 2008 1:13 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
He is inactive today.
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by ChiFan13 on Nov 23, 2008 1:13 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Wolfe? Why?
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by Acreman20 on Nov 23, 2008 1:14 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Special Teams
He saved that touchdown on that one runback
by beardown on Nov 23, 2008 1:14 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
wolfe
is also eating up a roster space..he has to go. brings nothing to the team..
by tfrabotta on Nov 23, 2008 1:15 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
i like him
as #3 running back over jones. at least wolfe plays special teams, jones is never even on the field at all.
by lopey986 on Nov 23, 2008 1:16 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Wolfe is actually contributing
why jones was paid baffles me
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by Acreman20 on Nov 23, 2008 1:17 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
He
couldn’t break a tackle to save his life. no value except on special teams and wouldn’t you rather have someone that could fight off a blocker??
by tfrabotta on Nov 23, 2008 1:17 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
i guess
but we are still talking about a #3 running back who is rarely going to see the field on offense and we have bigger problems than worrying about that spot.
by lopey986 on Nov 23, 2008 1:18 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I blame that on Turner
I think Angelo drafted him to be the third down scat back like the guy in Tampa who could also line up as a reciever. When they drafted him the said he was catching everything around him and then they never use him but on special teams.
by beardown on Nov 23, 2008 1:20 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I thought that was pass interference
by beardown on Nov 23, 2008 1:13 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
looked like there might have been contact on his mask too
Thabo Sefolosha: His last name sounds like a disease, and his ballgame IS one.
by chibullsfan03 on Nov 23, 2008 1:13 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
olsen was pushing as well
they were both clawing at each other, good no call in my opinon.
by lopey986 on Nov 23, 2008 1:14 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
They did throw a flag
so someone saw something
by beardown on Nov 23, 2008 1:15 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
possibly offensive interference
but since olsen didn’t make the play they may have decided it didn’t make a difference in the outcome of the play and didn’t call it.
by lopey986 on Nov 23, 2008 1:17 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
could they have challeneged that
if lovie hadn’t already pissed one away?
one per half or two per game?
by mike b on Nov 23, 2008 1:13 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
would've lost it
so glad we didn’t bother, because olsen didn’t have that ball at all.
by lopey986 on Nov 23, 2008 1:15 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Always good to remember there are teams far worse than the Bears
And that they do in fact get to play such bad teams from time to time.
by Ozzie Montana on Nov 23, 2008 1:13 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
like i said
if only we could play the lions and the rams every game for the rest of the year, we’d prolly win out n get the honor of getting our asses kicked in the playoffs.
by lopey986 on Nov 23, 2008 1:20 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Hey people!!!
I’ve got homework but I’m here. Everyone watching the game through some medium?
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by bs.uf15bosox9bears23 on Nov 23, 2008 1:20 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Tryin to
but the feed fuckin sucks
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by Acreman20 on Nov 23, 2008 1:21 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
You using justin.tv?
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by bs.uf15bosox9bears23 on Nov 23, 2008 1:21 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Good feed here:
http://stoogetv.com/player.html
Click Stooge 2.
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by bs.uf15bosox9bears23 on Nov 23, 2008 1:21 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Won't play
says my proxy settings aren’t right. o well, good lookin out anyways
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by Acreman20 on Nov 23, 2008 1:24 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Proxies...
So good, yet so bad…
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by bs.uf15bosox9bears23 on Nov 23, 2008 1:25 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
lol very true
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by Acreman20 on Nov 23, 2008 1:26 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
the rams are brilliant
now going to have to give us the ball back
by tempchad on Nov 23, 2008 1:22 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
LOL
hell yeah. I live in alabama and see the bears on sunday or monday night football
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by Acreman20 on Nov 23, 2008 1:22 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Dad-um, dad-um, dadadadada...
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by bs.uf15bosox9bears23 on Nov 23, 2008 1:22 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Damn it Hester.
Run perpendicular to the lines!!!
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by bs.uf15bosox9bears23 on Nov 23, 2008 1:23 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
JAWS got shot in the air tank I guess.
Wonder if he’s healed fully from the rib injury?
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by bs.uf15bosox9bears23 on Nov 23, 2008 1:23 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Bomb it!!!!
Oh, what, we’re replaying the kick now?
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by bs.uf15bosox9bears23 on Nov 23, 2008 1:24 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Dad-um, dad-um, dadadadada...
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by bs.uf15bosox9bears23 on Nov 23, 2008 1:25 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
This officiating crew
must be related to the rams somehow….
by tfrabotta on Nov 23, 2008 1:25 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Inbreeding?
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by bs.uf15bosox9bears23 on Nov 23, 2008 1:25 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Are you suggesting that inbreeding is good?
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by bs.uf15bosox9bears23 on Nov 23, 2008 1:26 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Can we just run hail marys for a few plays?
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by bs.uf15bosox9bears23 on Nov 23, 2008 1:27 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Down the field, not to the sideline.
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by bs.uf15bosox9bears23 on Nov 23, 2008 1:27 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Rams must be making a documentry
on how do do everything wrong as a NFL team
by beardown on Nov 23, 2008 1:27 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Credits:
Videographer: Bill Belichick
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by bs.uf15bosox9bears23 on Nov 23, 2008 1:28 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Wish i could see the shit
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by Acreman20 on Nov 23, 2008 1:28 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
I know what you mean.
Couldn’t watch my Gators play The Citadel because ESPN is full of pricks.
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by bs.uf15bosox9bears23 on Nov 23, 2008 1:29 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
they should go for it on 4th
if they don’t get it the rams are just going to take a knee
by tempchad on Nov 23, 2008 1:28 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Maynard likes to kick.
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by bs.uf15bosox9bears23 on Nov 23, 2008 1:29 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
SECOND HALF GAME THREAD IS UP
Chad is offering your choice of a neutered Bob Babich or Forte ending up with 150 yards today.
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by ChiFan13 on Nov 23, 2008 1:29 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
New V-formation?
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by bs.uf15bosox9bears23 on Nov 23, 2008 1:29 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
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