Bears Crash, Lose to Vikings 34-14

there was no mckie up the middle tonight as he was inactive, instead it was J Davis who i’m inclined to think is Jason Davis who played fullback for u of i a year or two ago.

but anyone who thought Orton was going to be our franchise QB was more than a litte bit in over his or her head per se.

I don’t know why you are all freaking about orton… He looked off sharper and tried to hit llyod in stride but sharper didnt bite like most safeties would have… A great play on his part. Hester hitched in the wrong direction and the ball was out of his hand after it was too late. And Rashied Davis can’t catch for his life he dropped what 4 balls tonight… But then again so did everyone but forte. IMO it was a poorly called game on turners part in the red zone and the recievers didnt execute at all. I think that our AP should play fullback at this point rather than so random guy the spent part of the year on the raiders. We have to win three of the last games and the packers is a must win!

Orton doesn’t appear to be anything more than a mediocre QB. But what would really help a Mediocre QB, is a good WR, which we don’t have. The dropped passes were killing Kyle last night. Yeah, he threw some terrible ones, but he also threw some good ones that would have extended some drives had the WRs caught them. At best Hester is a #2 WRs. On one of the plays he ran an in, and Orton threw it to him on the outside. I’m more willing to believe that Hester ran the wrong route than the QB not knowing where it was going.

I want Greg Olsen to be an elite receiving TE, but he’s not. He’s a non factor. It’s pretty bad when teams can shut him down by playing nickel and putting a corner on him. The only thing he’s really done is catch fade routes in the endzone. That or Ron Turner doesn’t know how to use him. I mean c’mon old-ass Tony Gonzales crushes teams still, and with Nobody Thigpen throwing him the ball, and with the Defense knowing he’s their #1 threat.

sigh……

On the vikings two late TD drives, I saw Briggs wiff on 3 times trying to tackle Adrian Peterson.

Last week he got lucky that Rams defenders couldn’t hand on to balls that hit them in the hands. The vikings have better hands than that.

I’m not going to argue Orton is or isn’t a mediocre QB or better/worse than Rex. But he shouldn’t be in the games yet. He’s clearly not healthy enough. He still can’t plant and throw. He’s got to rely too much on arm strength rather than getting his body into it. He doesn’t have any mobility or ability to avoid sacks. If they want to keep Orton long term, they need to give him time to heal. One of these games he’s going to pop that ankle even worse than it is now.

was that the WRs and St. Clair had a bad game. Would Rex have stepped up in the pocket as it was collapsing? No, because Rex would have ran straight backwards like he STILL does and probably gotten stripped. Instead Orton stepped up in the pocket, moved around, and threw INTs instead. It was pretty obvious that Orton lost confidence in the WRs and started gambling in the 2nd half. I couldn’t believe the pass that actually hit Hester in the arm, or all the passes that hit Davis in the hands. How horrible was it to watch Jared Allen straight play games with St. Clair in slow motion, with Madden diagramming it? It reminded me of when he would do that with Favre on the Packers after Favre had p’owned us…it made me throw up in my mouth a bit.

our ONLY bright spot. How awesome is the guy? He basically is a more subtle, less flashy, more durable Adrian Peterson, except he fumbles less and can be a factor in the pass game. Do we sign him to a long extension now, because he is only going to get better. I’d rather have him than AP any day of the week. There is no more complete back in the NFL right now…if so name one. I love that Forte picks his spots to dole out punishment as well as take it; his running style is the opposite of AP’s in the good way, in way that will allow for him to have a longer career. I LOVE MATT FORTE!!!

Fire everyone!
Mr. Orton when the guy in the white jersey is surrounded by guys in purple jerseys don’t throw the ball to them.
Mr. Turner three time right up the middle when the defense has the biggest MoF*&^ers in the whole league line up against you – Sheeesh!

I think we’ll be a lot better on offense next year. Chris Williams will be ready to take over for St. Clair, who’s been ok, but can’t handle the elite guys. Maybe Williams will be as good as advertised.

Hopefully we’ll be smart and pick up a #1 WR in free agency if there is one. Can you image the damage the offense would be able to do if we had say…Boldin at WR? even with Orton, we’d be dangerous.

hester gives us a 7 point lead to start with and we mess it up, reminds me of the super bowl all over again.

The give to the fullback wasnt actually that bad a call.
1st down: bad play to olsen,
2nd: run to the outside with forte (dont like it, more lateral running than vertical)
3rd: fb
4th: forte (did he get the ball across the plane btw?)

4th down play shoulda been called on the 1st 2 downs. williams wall or not forte can get a yard up the middle on 4 downs if thats what it is gonna take (which is obviously the case)

The O/Turner needed to call more short passes to forte. and what happened to Hester lets see more of the canes formation or reverses or screen (has anybody suggested that b4?)

What to do with Orton? he is the captain and the team is behind him. best qb ive seen 4 the bears in awhile. definitely resign him…. However I think the Bears should keep their eyes on a qb in what i think will be a qb rich draft (past tell me the odds not good tho) Is detroit making sure they get tebow?

More consistently good = a good player/team

The guy is a classic placeholder. For the most part, he won’t kill ya. Had they drafted a QB this year or last, he’d have a year or two on the sidelines while Orton provided adequate production for a rebuilding team.

instead, the Bears needed to draft: Michael Okwo, Garrett Wolfe, Chris Williams, Matt Forte, Earl Bennett and marcus Harrison.

Okay, okay. One of those was a great pick, one was a good pick and is still in question. The others were horrible.

Once again, horrible coaching, non adjustments, and just flat out bad coaching:

1. On the goal line.. first, obviously bad play calling then on 4th and goal, when your line has not moved any viking off the line of scrimmage, you run it into the pile again? Take the three! I know this is an easy second guess, but trust me, I was screaming at the TV for Lovie to take the three in that situation. Coaching.

2. Team tackling – horrible!!! – that is coaching. I know AP is an incredible back. Probably best pure RB in the NFL but only reason why he broke that run for 59yards was poor technique. I was reminded of how the Bears used to tackle Barry Sanders on that play. Coaching.

3. Route running. I am certain that at least one of the interceptions thrown by Orton was due to an incorrectly run route. I cannot recall a group of receivers that go into their cut then start to shuffle sideways instead of continuing the crossing pattern (or out) as much as the Bears do. On simple hook patterns, they don’t come back to the ball, they hook and wait. Coaching.

4. Unless your name says “Forte” on the back of the uniform, you can’t catch a cold. Rashied Davis needs to be cut today. Routine passes right through the hands. Additionally, over the course of the year I have seen Bears receivers and DB’s allow the ball to get into their bodies for the catch instead of catching with the hands leading to frequent drops on both sides of the ball. RECEIVER AND DB 101 – YOU CATCH THE BALL WITH THE HANDS AND AT ITS HIGHEST POINT!!! It is seldom that ours do this. Coaching.

5. Vikings on the 1 yard line. Our defensive “scheme” has us leave a 1.5-2 yard gap over the Vikings left side “A” gap (gap between the center and left guard). Absolute no brainer QB sneak for an easy Frerotte score. The Vikings saw that on film guaranteed. That was just too freakin easy. Horrible design. Horrible coaching.

6. Is it me or does every time the camera focuses on Lovie, he appears to spending his time watching the replay on the big screen instead of… coaching… If he wants to watch the game, get your ass on the couch.

7. It was obvious very early that Jared Allen was going to eat St. Clairs lunch all day long. Yet Turner never seemed to help him out with a chip or setting up Clark or Olsen at the wing just to slow him down. If he did, he didn’t do it nearly enough. He was just left out there to blow by St Clair all day. And trust me, Allen knows that. His adrenaline kept creeping higher and higher as no one adjusted to his rush. Coaching.

8. Horse collar tackles – they all know its against the rules, yet Tillman went straight for that part of his uniform. Either he is just too stupid for words OR his coaches haven’t stressed it enough. I prefer the latter – Coaching.

9. Brad Maynard – I will give the coaches a break on this one. Time for a new punter.

10. Devin Hester – This point has been beaten to death on this blog. Devin was successful when he took the ball up the field and not sideways. I am hopeful someone on the staff has pointed this out to him right? Sadly, I just don’t know.

I have more, but I’m tired, frustrated, irritated and don’t want to think about it anymore. Players certainly have responsibility in this debacle (I’m looking at you Tillman, St Clair, Davis, Hester, Orton, D-Line) but it is the coaching staff and the lack of basic fundamentals that stem from a solid coaching staff that has this team so inconsistent. To me, the incosistent teams are the ones most poorly coached.

I’m done.

I’ve noticed a trend around here after games this year. There are two obvious sides, Orton supporters and previous/current Rex supporters.

Whenever Orton has a good game, Orton supporters tell it how it is. Previous/current Rex supporters usually point to one bad decision, a mediocre stat line, or the opposing team’s defense to show how Orton “didn’t have THAT good of a game.” Whenever Orton makes bad plays/decisions, or is bad over any length of time, previous/current Rex supporters cry wolf and declare that Orton isn’t the guy.

I agree that we need to draft another QB because Rex will be gone after this year. I’m sorry, but Matt Cassel, Tom Brady, Peyton Manning, Henry Burris, Caleb Hanie, Kordell Stewart, or Drew Brees would all end up the same as Orton. WE HAVE NO OFFENSIVE PLAYMAKERS BESIDES FORTE! We have a bad OL crew and a worse receiving corps. Until we fix those, no QB will do anything of note in Chicago.

In summation: Stop whining and be realistic.

name for the Williams Wall. Try this out:

The “took a diaretic substance that nobody told them they couldn’t, even though the substance has been known about for 3 years, and the only reason we are taking it is to cover up our steroid use, but if we get suspended will just appeal so we can play the Bears eventhough we are cheaters and we have good lawyers” wall.

Offer me a solution. If I talk about our WRs, somebody will bring up Boldin or TJ or something. Prior to the season these threads listed 6 different olinement that we could go after.

But when we bring up QB nobody has a solution they just want something different. If you don’t like Orton that is great, but who is it you want us to go get? We aren’t going to have a top 10 draft pick, so we’d have to ransom our picks or players to get the big QBs or settle for the second half of the bunch. You don’t want McNabb, you didn’t want Anderson last year. Who exactly is the best guy for this team if not Orton?

If we decided to rebuild, fine. Which guy in the draft that we can reasonably get at or what FA is the guy to rebuild around?

We can’t sell a top FA receiver on a rookie QB. We can sell them on Orton did decent with no receivers and a crappy oline. Sign some line and go after a receiver. If we get a top flight WR that gives us our #1 receiver, a #1 back and our QB, that isn’t rebuilding anymore, that is taking a shot.

is at free safety. We desperately need an athletic safety in the Sean Taylor, Leron Landry, Ed Reed, Bob Sanders, Troy Polamolu type. Should we just draft every safety from USC and Miami every year until we find one? I say yes. I’m tired of seeing Peanut hung out to dry game after game after game, and not being able to play his style of football because we now play these ridiculously soft zones, where every player in coverage has 2 respectabilities…arrghhh