New Orleans Saints VS. Chicago Bears - Game Thread
New Orleans Saints at Chicago Bears, Dec 11, 2008 7:15 PM CST
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| Date: | December 11, 2008 | Location: | Chicago, Illinois |
| Time: | 7:15 P.M. CST |
Stadium: | Soldier Field |
| TV: | NFLN | Know Thy Enemy: | Canal Street Chronicles |
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It's Game Night, baby!!!
Hopefully Orton can take advantage tonight.
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Get it done, Bears!
I’ll be away from the game threads tonight (last grad class of the semester, so I’ll be out celebrating), but I’ll be able to watch the Bears.
Let’s hope Santa brings us:
1) No FB dives
2) We don’t get beat on slants
3) We don’t rush 54 and 55 up the middle
4) Hester not fumbling the ball (or running anywhere but north)
I'M A MAN! I'M 22!
BREES
Let’s hope the cold “BREES” coming off the lake gets Brees to throw us a couple of int’s. GO BEARS!!
I've heard a lot of negativity about our D facing the #1 passing offense
But I think we should stay positive early. We have got the best of these guys lately and they do struggle against the cover 2 and we seem to get a lot of picks as well. History says we match up well, so I’m going to stay hopeful.
I also think that Grahm will make our passing defense better than when Vasher was in and Nick Roach/Daniel Manning (depending on if we are in the nickel) are playing better than Hillenmeier did in passing downs. So I think we are better than we were in the passing game. Hopefully the Tillman blown coverage was a once every 3 or 4 year mistake.
Kick it to me... I'm open!
If you're in Chicago
you’re missing Lingerie Football highlights on the Ch 50 pre-game show.
by halfblindcubbiegirl on Dec 11, 2008 6:45 PM CST reply actions
Ch 50 WPWR
NFLN (which I don’t have) is 154 on Dish Network.
Thats all I know.
by halfblindcubbiegirl on Dec 11, 2008 6:51 PM CST up reply actions
Dunno
If you’re in Chicago the game will be on Ch 50 (it should be 50 on most services, its always been 50 for me anyway)… otherwise you’ll have to find the NFLN.
by halfblindcubbiegirl on Dec 11, 2008 6:56 PM CST up reply actions
I believe WPWR probably bought the rights to play the game in the chicago area so the home team fans could watch their team
by aznsensation on Dec 11, 2008 6:56 PM CST up reply actions
you can also watch the game online at nfl.com if you don't have it on tv
by aznsensation on Dec 11, 2008 6:57 PM CST up reply actions
NFLN==NFL network
But I believe if you’re in the chicago area, it’s on WPWR using the antennae.
by aznsensation on Dec 11, 2008 6:55 PM CST up reply actions
That was a really really cool intro
by halfblindcubbiegirl on Dec 11, 2008 7:02 PM CST reply actions
it was....but i hate everytime they play the clip of drew brees in the huddle yelling "we are new Orleans"
It just seems so played out
by aznsensation on Dec 11, 2008 7:04 PM CST up reply actions
Hey I'm stuck at work.
anyone got an internet feed for your old pal Chad?
anyone got a stream?
When I watch NBA games I often call the fouls before the referees do. Sometimes it’s a gift. Most of the time it's troublesome. - NBA Observer
Im there but are they actually going to show the game, or is it just gonna be highlights from time to time?
they show the actual game...but they'll go in and out to do "analysis" of the game
by aznsensation on Dec 11, 2008 7:10 PM CST up reply actions
for the most part yes
but nfl.com is probably where you’d be able to see the game with the best quality…another link: http://atdhe.net/live-tv-1364.html
by aznsensation on Dec 11, 2008 7:13 PM CST up reply actions
You at U of I?
When I watch NBA games I often call the fouls before the referees do. Sometimes it’s a gift. Most of the time it's troublesome. - NBA Observer
What I do is listen to WBBM while watching the game
I pretty much can’t stand any commentator, but I love Tom Thayer.
Cooler than the other side of the pillow...
Well that was fast.
Nicely done, Mr. Manning.
"I see great things in baseball. It's our game - the American game." - Walt Whitman
ew.
id rather have commercials than these guys “analyze” in between the action
"Gooden for three..." *spit-take* WAIT...Did tha- did he really...
Im confused
They just said that Manning was the first ever bear to return a kick off for a td in the opening kick off.
Didnt Hester do it in the opening kick off of the superbowl?
You have to hate losing more than you love winning
Yes
but first REGULAR season opening kickoff since 72
by halfblindcubbiegirl on Dec 11, 2008 7:19 PM CST up reply actions
Yay...I kept my Bears Defense/special team in for my fantasy football team
I had to bench Marquis Colston and lance Moore…and as an Illinois alum I had to drop Pierre Thomas
I'm more recent than that....
I’m an ’08 alum…lol
by aznsensation on Dec 11, 2008 7:20 PM CST up reply actions
were you a basketball fan?
if so, you lucky bastard
My freshman year was when the Illini had that huge run....being on campus was absolutely awesome
Rose bowl season last year was amazing as well. Actually got to go to Pasadena for the game.
by aznsensation on Dec 11, 2008 7:23 PM CST up reply actions
i was there too.
i live in la so it was in my backyard
I left Moore in, but I also decided to go with the Bear defense
Here’s to hoping they don’t let us down
Brees is gonna be utilizing that slant all day...
we need to jump some of those routes to keep them honest
by aznsensation on Dec 11, 2008 7:26 PM CST up reply actions
Wow this stream is really annoying
Show the game!!!
When I watch NBA games I often call the fouls before the referees do. Sometimes it’s a gift. Most of the time it's troublesome. - NBA Observer
I'll try to find another one for you guys
by aznsensation on Dec 11, 2008 7:29 PM CST up reply actions
thanks man
When I watch NBA games I often call the fouls before the referees do. Sometimes it’s a gift. Most of the time it's troublesome. - NBA Observer
here ya go...it's not delayed either
http://www.justin.tv/stealthshott
Password: fancyeggdance
by aznsensation on Dec 11, 2008 7:31 PM CST up reply actions
Awesome. Thanks
When I watch NBA games I often call the fouls before the referees do. Sometimes it’s a gift. Most of the time it's troublesome. - NBA Observer
thank you very much
"Gooden for three..." *spit-take* WAIT...Did tha- did he really...
by chibullsfan03 on Dec 11, 2008 7:33 PM CST up reply actions
ruh roh
When I watch NBA games I often call the fouls before the referees do. Sometimes it’s a gift. Most of the time it's troublesome. - NBA Observer
wow eff you nfl.com
show the game
"Gooden for three..." *spit-take* WAIT...Did tha- did he really...
thanks
"Gooden for three..." *spit-take* WAIT...Did tha- did he really...
by chibullsfan03 on Dec 11, 2008 7:34 PM CST up reply actions
4th and less then 6 inches
do you go for it or take a FG?
by halfblindcubbiegirl on Dec 11, 2008 7:31 PM CST reply actions
Never mind
I’m on the wrong yardline.
I thought we were somewhere else on the field. Stupid me.
by halfblindcubbiegirl on Dec 11, 2008 7:32 PM CST up reply actions
Looks like Urlacher decided to show up today
at least… finally.
by halfblindcubbiegirl on Dec 11, 2008 7:35 PM CST reply actions
god damn it devin
you don’t run BACKWARDS!!
by halfblindcubbiegirl on Dec 11, 2008 7:36 PM CST reply actions
he needs to stop running sideways
the other team has prepared for that and are leaving a person on each side that’s waiting for hester to try to do one of his moves
by aznsensation on Dec 11, 2008 7:37 PM CST up reply actions
Can Manning not do punts too?
Maybe Devin’ll learn to run north/south again.
by halfblindcubbiegirl on Dec 11, 2008 7:37 PM CST reply actions
if he starts running north/south successfully...that will open up the lanes on the sides
he needs to realize that the other team has adjusted and hester needs to adjust back
by aznsensation on Dec 11, 2008 7:39 PM CST up reply actions
Forte going to the locker room...
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Catch the damn ball Devin
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overthrown
"Gooden for three..." *spit-take* WAIT...Did tha- did he really...
by chibullsfan03 on Dec 11, 2008 7:39 PM CST up reply actions
He's fast enough.
Losing his job and watching someone else just totally succeed at it should have motivated him.
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not hester's fault...slightly overthrown
hester did all he could
by aznsensation on Dec 11, 2008 7:40 PM CST up reply actions
that was about 3 inches too far
:-( so close
by halfblindcubbiegirl on Dec 11, 2008 7:40 PM CST up reply actions
Oh, hi people.
Toe injury, questionable.
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Orton, the ball isn't that much heavier in the cold.
Throw it easier please.
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it's early...let him get in a rhythm and warmed up
by aznsensation on Dec 11, 2008 7:42 PM CST up reply actions
He's overthrowing people by a lot.
As he throws a good screen…
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PeTerson.
Just like the other one.
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usually i'd let that one slide
but damn. how hard is peter-son to spell?
haha :-P
by halfblindcubbiegirl on Dec 11, 2008 7:44 PM CST up reply actions
Ugh
false start?
Gonna be a long game if Devin’s brain is this cold…
by halfblindcubbiegirl on Dec 11, 2008 7:43 PM CST reply actions
The U isn't known for it's academic prowess.
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High five!

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i'm not sure
i would be too upset if hester were somewhere else next year.
Give him one more chance to outthink coaches.
And be uninjured.
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If we had a QB getting him the ball when he's open deep
He’d be getting a bunch of offensive TD’s this year. Assuming he caught them.
Kick it to me... I'm open!
The dragon throws deep a lot.
He has to be decent at it by now.
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KSK...
http://kissingsuzykolber.uproxx.com/2006/11/f-k-it-im-throwing-it-downfield.html
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so THATS where i got it from
thats how i always describe gross’s look when things get rough.
by halfblindcubbiegirl on Dec 11, 2008 7:53 PM CST up reply actions
Logic doesn't work with Rexy.
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Obviously.
Hence the spread offense at UF and chics like this:
http://poonsec.blogspot.com/2008/12/sec-championship-poon.html
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His choice.
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Fans are stupid
i can’t believe everyone voted Hester to the probowl as a returner.
why do fans get to vote? stupid.
by halfblindcubbiegirl on Dec 11, 2008 7:46 PM CST reply actions
Popularity contest.
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same with baseball...it's dumb...change the system
by aznsensation on Dec 11, 2008 7:47 PM CST up reply actions
Eh... just don't read too much into it.
And don’t let it determine the World Series homefield.
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9 redskins voted in too
9! including their kicker who leads the league in… missed fgs!
by halfblindcubbiegirl on Dec 11, 2008 7:48 PM CST up reply actions
Name rec?
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Hmm...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hgLfjD8BRuU&feature=related
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heh
but seriously, he leads the league in missed kicks.
by halfblindcubbiegirl on Dec 11, 2008 7:54 PM CST up reply actions
Just saying, that could help.
Viral videos…
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Oh I get that
i’m just irritated by stupidity.
by halfblindcubbiegirl on Dec 11, 2008 7:56 PM CST up reply actions
That's YouTube for ya.
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Briggsy!!!
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I just got here.
Is the defense playing well or bad? I know we got a pick, but it seems like we’re giving up a lot of big holes on screens and draws.
Kick it to me... I'm open!
Spurts of both.
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why aren't you watching the game?
the D has been surprisingly good so far….but there’s a lot of game left
by aznsensation on Dec 11, 2008 7:51 PM CST up reply actions
Anybody else want to see Bush get back flipped on huge hit?
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I do...i hate bush and anybody else from USC
by aznsensation on Dec 11, 2008 7:50 PM CST up reply actions
The Juice is...
locked up?
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Did we just cover a slant?
is that what that was?
by halfblindcubbiegirl on Dec 11, 2008 7:50 PM CST reply actions
They finally got around to teaching how to do that.
It wasn’t high on the priority list with all the other problems we have.
Kick it to me... I'm open!
Graham is impressing me from what I've seen so far.
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Not mutually exclusive?
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Forte heading up the tunnel back to the field
coming back? please?
by halfblindcubbiegirl on Dec 11, 2008 7:52 PM CST reply actions
Toughness...
IT’S HIS FORTE!!!!
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Hey:
http://www.windycitygridiron.com/2008/12/4/681961/nickname-for-forte
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you can't force a nickname
like most good things… it just has to happen. :-P
by halfblindcubbiegirl on Dec 11, 2008 7:58 PM CST up reply actions
It's a knee slapper:

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hello
its 3rd down, its going to moore.
its his security blanket.
by halfblindcubbiegirl on Dec 11, 2008 7:58 PM CST reply actions
Alex Brown again
this time, no flags!
by halfblindcubbiegirl on Dec 11, 2008 7:59 PM CST reply actions
Well it looks like we have been getting pressure tonight. That is a very good sign.
Kick it to me... I'm open!
Hey, another UF grad:
ALEX!!!!
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Okay, maybe Graham ain't that great.
Was that his man?
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best in the league
most of the year i believe.
Mike Browns been working with the recievers
at least he has an excuse for not catching it.
by halfblindcubbiegirl on Dec 11, 2008 8:01 PM CST reply actions
Collinsworth is a disgrace to the UF EngDept.
Although he can throw…
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Am I the only one who loves Collinsworth?
I love his football nerd stuff.
by halfblindcubbiegirl on Dec 11, 2008 8:03 PM CST reply actions
are we going to have crap field position all game again?
"Gooden for three..." *spit-take* WAIT...Did tha- did he really...
im a bit scared where we're at right now
everyone knows we’re gonna run it on first down….I don’t know if Forte is ready to get us a few yards
by aznsensation on Dec 11, 2008 8:05 PM CST up reply actions
No one would listen to me last year about him causing fumbles.
He does, he screws up.
Kick it to me... I'm open!
Okay, you happy now?
No? Then why bring it up? And yes, I am mad.
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No I'm mad too, but I ridiculed for making excuses for a certain Dragon when it was really a fact.
Kick it to me... I'm open!
Dragon don't need excuses. He has his golden arm to deflect the hate.
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actually
after the third different qb had trouble i’m pretty sure everyone was saying that.
Yeah, but I mentioned it when Rex fumbled at the start of 2007.
I heard Jim Miller talking about having troubles with his snaps.
Kick it to me... I'm open!
Are you injured again?
You already got your pick for the game I guess.
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Really Kreutz?
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Don't be surprised
He has been doing stuff like this for years. All QB’s have fumbled ordinary snaps his whole career. The guy does somethings well, but this is one of his weaknesses.
Kick it to me... I'm open!
He plays Center now?
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What a revoltin' development this is...
Ugh, what a unfortunate series of events. Luckily there’s a lot of time, and it’s not like the Saints have looked that good…
Cooler than the other side of the pillow...
the saints
have looked like a team that could drop 40 if they stopped screwing themselves.
What did I miss?
Looks like I picked the wrong time to go grab a drink.
by halfblindcubbiegirl on Dec 11, 2008 8:09 PM CST reply actions
Kreutz looked up to find you and got distracted.
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He cares about whether fans are watching him.
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Why wasn't Steltz throwing a block on that return?
Manning could have gone all the way. Steltz gave up.
Kick it to me... I'm open!
No... Devin [The] U!!!!
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Okay, Forte isn't Superman Orton.
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Glad he got that away
if he’d been taken down that way his ankle would’ve been in danger
by halfblindcubbiegirl on Dec 11, 2008 8:12 PM CST reply actions
There we go!!!
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devin doesn't catch that
even if he has his left arm
Over ran it.
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he didn't overrun it...he took a awkward route to the ball
by aznsensation on Dec 11, 2008 8:13 PM CST up reply actions
He was coming from the right side, went to the left of where the ball was going.
Overran.
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Didn't David give him a shove?
That might be part of it
by halfblindcubbiegirl on Dec 11, 2008 8:14 PM CST up reply actions
Grab, it looked like.
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Hence the name.
Don’t worry, I’m getting close. 20/400 w/o glasses.
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20/200 with glasses in my good eye
but 20/10000 or so in my bad eye.
by halfblindcubbiegirl on Dec 11, 2008 8:17 PM CST up reply actions
You might be blinder than me
I can’t see the E at the top of the eye chart without glasses.
Cooler than the other side of the pillow...
I can't see the eye chart
(no really,)
by halfblindcubbiegirl on Dec 11, 2008 8:19 PM CST up reply actions
Me neither.
W/o glasses that is. They had to turn me towards it cause I was looking at the other side of the wall…
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i've never done that one
but thats mostly because most of the eye docs i’ve been to only have one long side of the room.
i’ve been to just under 30 eye docs.
by halfblindcubbiegirl on Dec 11, 2008 8:26 PM CST up reply actions
This was one of those reflected projections things. I was looking at the wrong mirror and couldn't tell a difference.
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Yeah
that was embarassing the first time. Now its just an “eh, it happens”. LOL
by halfblindcubbiegirl on Dec 11, 2008 8:29 PM CST up reply actions
I don't care.
As long as I get the right Rx and don’t have to get a lecture on glaucoma cause I blink like crazy during the tests and screw up the results.
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Holy cow.
Umm… “legally blind” is worse than 20/200 w/ glasses. So you could be considered full on blind.
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hehe
But of my circle of friends, I have the best vision. So I’m the half blind one.
by halfblindcubbiegirl on Dec 11, 2008 8:23 PM CST up reply actions
That has to be interesting...
I can’t imagine not being able to see even w/ glasses, let alone while with other people who can’t tell me what I’m looking at.
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Interesting is one word
We made our first trip to Wrigley this year and i was the only one who could see far enough to do play-by-play. The poor guy next to us got bombarded by “wait, what just happened” questions.
by halfblindcubbiegirl on Dec 11, 2008 8:27 PM CST up reply actions
Radio and headphones help even if you can see.
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It was a spur of the moment thing
my best friend turned 21 (finally) so me, her, her fiance, and her sister pilgramaged up to the old lady on clark and addison after a long night of drinking.
by halfblindcubbiegirl on Dec 11, 2008 8:29 PM CST up reply actions
Always a fun night.
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hester was running so fast that he had to weave to get to the ball at the same time
by aznsensation on Dec 11, 2008 8:16 PM CST up reply actions
He wasn't running. If he was running he would've been in the stands by the time the ball was thrown, don't'chakno?
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No, FB DIVE!!!!!!!
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Forte Dive works too.
Esp. w/o diving.
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Double Woohoo!!
offense, defense, and special teams = awesome minus the punt returns by hester
by aznsensation on Dec 11, 2008 8:14 PM CST up reply actions
And the self obsessed center:
Kreutz: Everyone ready?
Kreutz: Yep!
Kreutz: Snap- and block!!!
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so hesters open twice
easily, keep running him deep and open up the middle for the te’s.
Cubbies?
Or is that just the curse? Also, it is the governor’s fault.
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Works with my Tebow plan...
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Someone should tell her
that that necklace she’s pimping for kay is ugly.
by halfblindcubbiegirl on Dec 11, 2008 8:15 PM CST reply actions
that would be the wife and i
EVErY TIME IT’S ON
i hate the jewelry commercials
play more beer commercials
by aznsensation on Dec 11, 2008 8:19 PM CST up reply actions
And NFL commercials with Marissa Miller...
Haven’t seen that one yet tonight…
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Dammit...
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Although the Scarlett Johannson/Eva Mendes commercial for The Spirit will do for now.
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Mike B
What are some of your thoughts on the Bears team this year?
Are you impressed by anything?
What changes do we need to make?
Any surprise players good or bad?
Kick it to me... I'm open!
Asking a player on the team?
Shouldn’t he be worrying about Brees and the receivers right now? He’s got Shockey to cover too.
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LOL, I was so lost.
I was thinking he should be getting his playcalling in quicker to Turner.
No, not Mike Brown, our very own Mike B.
I was wondering some of his thoughts on the year. Mostly because I don’t usually understand really what he thinks about the Bears. I’m trying to understand better.
Kick it to me... I'm open!
they're a .500 team
which might be better than i thought they would be, i think i picked .500 as their ceiling. almost all of that can be attributed to forte and orton
they’re bad in a lot of areas. when you watch the giants d they look a lot faster and better, and better coached. i think they need a lot of everything, wr, safety, new scheme, oline, would be nice to have a big fast freak of nature corner.
Our defense has lost some speed for sure, maybe two steps
Some of it is Urlacher. He made everyone look better for a long time, now he is just hoping to make himself look good.
Do you like how Payne and Brown have played and just want depth or do you think they aren’t cutting it?
Do you think we could really change schemes with this personnel and coach?
Who do you like on the line and what changes would you want to make their?
Kick it to me... I'm open!
oooh
a new clint eastwood movie. i may have to see that.
by halfblindcubbiegirl on Dec 11, 2008 8:21 PM CST reply actions
Tonight I don't know, but he has obviously been in the dog house from the injury earlier and not coming back sooner.
I think he is the best receiver right now on the team even with that drop. Best teammate? That is another story.
Kick it to me... I'm open!
I don't know if there was conclusive evidence to overturn on that one camera angle they showed....
but the refs this year have been straying away from the “conclusive evidence” part
by aznsensation on Dec 11, 2008 8:26 PM CST up reply actions
Never had his hands on it
slithered down his legs.
by halfblindcubbiegirl on Dec 11, 2008 8:30 PM CST up reply actions
Back it up...
Nice skull cap Ref.
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Peanut!!!
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http://freefootballstreams.webs.com/
"Gooden for three..." *spit-take* WAIT...Did tha- did he really...
by chibullsfan03 on Dec 11, 2008 8:32 PM CST up reply actions
The word "free" usually throws people.
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Sheesh you'd think they never played a game outside the Superdome ever
What do you see in a 14 ppg with no jumper that makes one think he will be better than a 26ppg\ 12rpg guy? Is there some kind of magic formula that tells you 14 > 26??
by Dabullsfan on Jul 1, 2008 10:19 AM CDT actions actions 0 recs
They're 2-5? on the road this year
I think.
by halfblindcubbiegirl on Dec 11, 2008 8:32 PM CST up reply actions
It really is a Jekyll/Hyde thing
Which is pretty rare this season for any other team. Brees for one is just not even close to the MVP caliber player he is at home. However, it’s more of an extension of them never having a consistent running game.
What do you see in a 14 ppg with no jumper that makes one think he will be better than a 26ppg\ 12rpg guy? Is there some kind of magic formula that tells you 14 > 26??
by Dabullsfan on Jul 1, 2008 10:19 AM CDT actions actions 0 recs
by Ozzie Montana on Dec 11, 2008 8:33 PM CST up reply actions
Georgia Dome count?
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It's kinda funny that most of the domes are in the South.
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that is funny
places with warm weather all year around should not have domes…or at least have retractable roofs
by aznsensation on Dec 11, 2008 8:34 PM CST up reply actions
Yep.
Although in August it sucks cause it’s so damn hot. If it rains (Tampa), it’s even worse.
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Aren't 2 dome teams in our division?
Indy, St. Louis.
What do you see in a 14 ppg with no jumper that makes one think he will be better than a 26ppg\ 12rpg guy? Is there some kind of magic formula that tells you 14 > 26??
by Dabullsfan on Jul 1, 2008 10:19 AM CDT actions actions 0 recs
by Ozzie Montana on Dec 11, 2008 8:36 PM CST up reply actions
I should have added more words
2 of our division teams (Minny and Det) are dome teams.
STL and Indy also play in domes. Well the Colts used to, the new stadium has a retractable roof though.
What do you see in a 14 ppg with no jumper that makes one think he will be better than a 26ppg\ 12rpg guy? Is there some kind of magic formula that tells you 14 > 26??
by Dabullsfan on Jul 1, 2008 10:19 AM CDT actions actions 0 recs
by Ozzie Montana on Dec 11, 2008 8:38 PM CST up reply actions
St. Louis is technically in our conference even though they are barely considered a pro team.
Kick it to me... I'm open!
As each other, I think he meant.
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what division are you in?
Minnesota & Detriot play in domes.
by halfblindcubbiegirl on Dec 11, 2008 8:37 PM CST up reply actions
Hester looks like a bad PacMan game, only 90 degree turns.
Not the Cowboy with the screwy neck.
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IT SNOWED IN NEW ORLEANS?!?!?
What the hell?
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psh...I don't count it as snow if it doesn't stick
I don’t know if the snow stuck
by aznsensation on Dec 11, 2008 8:35 PM CST up reply actions
It did
saw pictures on the news. Looked like more than a few inches
by halfblindcubbiegirl on Dec 11, 2008 8:36 PM CST up reply actions
hmm...interesting
I’m gonna blame global warming. :-)
by aznsensation on Dec 11, 2008 8:37 PM CST up reply actions
Al Gore is my enemy.
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i'm so exhausted by politics
after the election that would never end
by halfblindcubbiegirl on Dec 11, 2008 8:40 PM CST up reply actions
I'd get used to it
Obama was merely the first guy to understand how to use the internet in an election. In 2012 both sides will be all over it, and CNN has really taken their coverage to Super Bowl levels.
What do you see in a 14 ppg with no jumper that makes one think he will be better than a 26ppg\ 12rpg guy? Is there some kind of magic formula that tells you 14 > 26??
by Dabullsfan on Jul 1, 2008 10:19 AM CDT actions actions 0 recs
by Ozzie Montana on Dec 11, 2008 8:40 PM CST up reply actions
Bush did pretty well in '04
http://www.swiftboats.org/
Oh wait…
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lol, let's end the politics there
What do you see in a 14 ppg with no jumper that makes one think he will be better than a 26ppg\ 12rpg guy? Is there some kind of magic formula that tells you 14 > 26??
by Dabullsfan on Jul 1, 2008 10:19 AM CDT actions actions 0 recs
by Ozzie Montana on Dec 11, 2008 8:44 PM CST up reply actions
I can joke since I'm a ConRep.
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I've seen snow twice.
In SanAngelo, TX and Valdosta, GA. Both times it was slushy.
I was born at the AFA, but I didn’t really see anything cause I was a baby.
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Although my high school's orch was doing a fake snowball fight fundraiser today...
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Twice?
How’d you end up as a Bears fan?
by halfblindcubbiegirl on Dec 11, 2008 8:38 PM CST up reply actions
Pops.
Born in Chicago.
That and the string of UF players headed there. Leak was the final straw for my loyalty to be decided, even if he didn’t stick.
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Ah thats nifty
you’re a baby fan!!
my earliest memory is of the super bowl shuffle. and the only jersey i’ve ever owned is good old #34
by halfblindcubbiegirl on Dec 11, 2008 8:41 PM CST up reply actions
I'll admit I'm not a diehard
Never really caught onto football the way I did basketball (Michael Jordan in your childhood doesn’t hurt things either). The first season I really followed closely was Dick Jauron’s 1st year, especially the game when Big Cat blocked a FG against the Packers. Since then they’ve roped me in.
What do you see in a 14 ppg with no jumper that makes one think he will be better than a 26ppg\ 12rpg guy? Is there some kind of magic formula that tells you 14 > 26??
by Dabullsfan on Jul 1, 2008 10:19 AM CDT actions actions 0 recs
by Ozzie Montana on Dec 11, 2008 8:43 PM CST up reply actions
You might want to tell that to his daughter.
I got a Urlacher jersey for Christmas last year. People were freaked out because I wear a ton of Red Sox and Gators stuff. I guess the geography screwed with them.
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I thought about telling Brittany that
But it felt a little suck-uppy to me.
But I’ll never own another jersey for any team until someone matches Sweetness in matter of importance to the team and me. He’s by far and away my favorite player of any sport.
by halfblindcubbiegirl on Dec 11, 2008 8:46 PM CST up reply actions
Not really.
It’d be more of a respect thing.
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Good snag from Devin
good job, buddy.
by halfblindcubbiegirl on Dec 11, 2008 8:35 PM CST reply actions
Hester is really looking better and better on offense
He still needs to catch the open ball better, but he is getting space often in the game
Kick it to me... I'm open!
Stream updates
The justinTV one went down and moved to a different spot
http://www.justin.tv/stealthshot7 Password is fancyeggdance
or http://freefootballstreams.webs.com/
"Gooden for three..." *spit-take* WAIT...Did tha- did he really...
three ex illini in one game with an ex illini coach
by aznsensation on Dec 11, 2008 8:41 PM CST up reply actions
Grr... Zook...
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I don't know why UF hated Zook so much...
he’s a crappy coach…but he brings in the recruits
by aznsensation on Dec 11, 2008 8:45 PM CST up reply actions
Webber is the opposite for basketball.
He has good recruits coming in, but they are pretty much bought.
Kick it to me... I'm open!
Because we prefer a great recruiter who can also... [gasp] COACH!
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Webber is the opposite....
he’s a good coach by a crappy recruiter
by aznsensation on Dec 11, 2008 8:45 PM CST up reply actions
if we score quick AND
we can hold, we can get the all back. or at least force a punt
Think the ankle might be better?
:-P
by halfblindcubbiegirl on Dec 11, 2008 8:47 PM CST up reply actions
I saw that lane open up for Orton....but told myself that Orton doesn't want to get hurt again...
it worked out…Admiral Neckbeard does it again
by aznsensation on Dec 11, 2008 8:47 PM CST up reply actions
Neckbeard can do it all
What do you see in a 14 ppg with no jumper that makes one think he will be better than a 26ppg\ 12rpg guy? Is there some kind of magic formula that tells you 14 > 26??
by Dabullsfan on Jul 1, 2008 10:19 AM CDT actions actions 0 recs
Dragon be mad.
He coulda bombed one into the end zone there.
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Hmmm...
Maybe THAT will shut Collinsworth up about how “Orton isn’t as mobile” since his injury
"Gooden for three..." *spit-take* WAIT...Did tha- did he really...
He was limping...
and it was a short run.
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With 49 seconds?
I think the Saints will just run it out and get the hell back to the locker room.
What do you see in a 14 ppg with no jumper that makes one think he will be better than a 26ppg\ 12rpg guy? Is there some kind of magic formula that tells you 14 > 26??
by Dabullsfan on Jul 1, 2008 10:19 AM CDT actions actions 0 recs
by Ozzie Montana on Dec 11, 2008 8:46 PM CST up reply actions
Or they can get a good return and try and get a FG
What do you see in a 14 ppg with no jumper that makes one think he will be better than a 26ppg\ 12rpg guy? Is there some kind of magic formula that tells you 14 > 26??
by Dabullsfan on Jul 1, 2008 10:19 AM CDT actions actions 0 recs
by Ozzie Montana on Dec 11, 2008 8:48 PM CST up reply actions
Dragon immitation.
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first place schedule in 2007
and we play the nfc south this year
by halfblindcubbiegirl on Dec 11, 2008 8:47 PM CST up reply actions
not with the stupid lolcat caption
"Gooden for three..." *spit-take* WAIT...Did tha- did he really...
by chibullsfan03 on Dec 11, 2008 8:48 PM CST up reply actions
Hotdawgz better.
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yeah i'm a dog person
but lolcats are usually pretty cute.
by halfblindcubbiegirl on Dec 11, 2008 8:51 PM CST up reply actions
OJ puppy?
http://ihasahotdog.files.wordpress.com/2008/12/cute-puppy-pictures-testify-against-puppy.jpg
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hotdog & cheezburger
are my favorite parts of my rss feed. :-)
and that one is adorable
by halfblindcubbiegirl on Dec 11, 2008 8:53 PM CST up reply actions
LOLcelebs always too damn long to load, GraphJam is crazy repetitive, and Pundit Kitchen is uber-partisan.
FailBlog, Engrish, and LooksLike are good though.
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failblog is great
i don’t check it very often though.
should add that feed to my rss…..
by halfblindcubbiegirl on Dec 11, 2008 8:57 PM CST up reply actions
Newest:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fhl7f5IPoV8&eurl=http://failblog.org/&feature=player_embedded
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Wow
that is not a great picture.
by halfblindcubbiegirl on Dec 11, 2008 8:52 PM CST up reply actions
Does anybody else love how short halftime is for the NFL
I can’t stand college halftime’s….takes me out of the game
Not really.
Not that much jokes about how Zook wouldn’t be doing anything other than going into an office and calling a recruit.
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Second half thread up yet?
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I don't think there was a second half thread last sunday
so someone might have to make one
by aznsensation on Dec 11, 2008 8:51 PM CST up reply actions
is it getting slow for anyone?
cuz its fine for me…
by halfblindcubbiegirl on Dec 11, 2008 8:52 PM CST up reply actions
I have nothing to offer though...
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Should we just start a fan post for the second half so we can shorten up the conversation
Kick it to me... I'm open!
Only at 400ish comments...
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Your choice.
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Not up yet.
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Hey, Disturbed!!!
And not a Phil Collins rip off!
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Here:
http://www.windycitygridiron.com/2008/12/11/690198/new-orleans-saints-vs-chic
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everything you need to know
about this shitty ass team happened tonight. even if they somehow win, they are pathetic.

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