Sunday Open Thread
by ChiFan13 on Dec 14, 2008 11:06 AM CST
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You all know our playoff situation and where we stand. Since our Bears already played, use this as the Sunday open thread.
Games that affect our playoff standing are in italics while other good matchups are in bold (in CST):
- Tampa Bay 10, Atlanta 13; FINAL
- Washington 13, Cincinnati 20; FINAL
- Green Bay 16, Jacksonville 20; FINAL
- Minnesota 35, Arizona 14; FINAL
- Pittsburgh 13, Baltimore 9; FINAL
- NY Giants 8, Dallas 20; FINAL
- MONDAY: Cleveland 10, Philadelphia 30; FINAL
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Freaking semester exams...
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by bs.uf15bosox9bears23 on Dec 14, 2008 12:13 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Ah, just wait young grasshopper
They get worse the higher you go :)
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by ChiFan13 on Dec 14, 2008 12:31 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Yep.
Sophomore year sucks ass though.
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by bs.uf15bosox9bears23 on Dec 14, 2008 3:23 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Go cardinals!
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by Chanman25 on Dec 14, 2008 2:02 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Fox is lame ...
Here in Chicago, Fox isn’t showing any of the noon games … instead, we get Seinfeld reruns.
by Cevarius on Dec 14, 2008 2:24 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Hey, sounds better than what I got
I got two hours of cool new technology that wasn’t actually cool. So I’m stuck watching the Bills and Jets.
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by ChiFan13 on Dec 14, 2008 2:37 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Fox doesn't have any games?
I mean, I’m in Iowa and we usually get 1-2 games on Fox depending on where the station is. Today we have zero.
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by ChiFan13 on Dec 14, 2008 2:48 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Means Fox should only have one game
The MN game being the bigger game you should have gotten that at 3. Did you not?
by Arbusto on Dec 15, 2008 9:35 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Washington Lost, Packer Lost
However Atlanta looks like they are going to win. Go Arizona!!!
by beardown on Dec 14, 2008 3:12 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
They won on a kick in overtime.
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by bs.uf15bosox9bears23 on Dec 14, 2008 3:24 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Hey, Reggie Nelson picked off Aaron Rodgers to end the game!
THE ERASER!!!
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by bs.uf15bosox9bears23 on Dec 14, 2008 3:24 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Berrian seems to be single-handedly killing our playoff hopes.
Boo Vikes. Go Cards!!
Fire Ron Turner!!!
Fire Angelo!!
by GallopingGhost on Dec 14, 2008 3:37 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Man.
What the fuck, you Arizona assholes?
—d
by itsugly on Dec 14, 2008 3:39 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
damn cardinals
they are getting obliterated. maybe this is a consequence of them already clinching their division. atlanta certainly will go hard at the vikings next week.
by guy incognito on Dec 14, 2008 3:45 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
They are who we thought they were!
They Sucketh!!!
by beardown on Dec 14, 2008 3:49 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
vikings on the march again
my goodness…come on, cardinals, show SOMETHING!
by guy incognito on Dec 14, 2008 3:53 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
So....I hate Fox
I have Baltimore – Pittsburgh on TWO freaking channels. Fox has college tennis and golf. Really?
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by ChiFan13 on Dec 14, 2008 3:55 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
i don't know how that is possible
how can balt/pitt be on fox?
by tempchad on Dec 14, 2008 3:58 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
They're on CBS
There’s college tennis and golf on Fox.
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by ChiFan13 on Dec 14, 2008 4:13 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
then how do you have them on two channels?
by tempchad on Dec 14, 2008 4:14 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Two CBS's and two FOX's
Both CBS channels are showing Baltimore-Pitt; one Fox is showing college tennis and the other Fox is showing golf.
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by ChiFan13 on Dec 14, 2008 4:26 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Bad sentence structure.
I think he has two CBS’s and two FOX’s. I have two ABC’s in Tampa on Verizon, one for the major area, and another for further south.
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by bs.uf15bosox9bears23 on Dec 14, 2008 4:14 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
That's really odd
Usually CBS or FOX has a double header and shows 2 games, while the other shows 1. And it depends on blackout rules. So since I live in MN I never see Bears games even if htey play at a different time than the Vikes due to blackouts.
by Arbusto on Dec 15, 2008 9:38 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
welp, looks like we need the vikes to lose out and us to win out now..
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by Chanman25 on Dec 14, 2008 4:00 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
this is why
you don’t rely on others to win your own division.
by mike b on Dec 14, 2008 4:04 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Ooh... I get the Broncos@Panthers.
And they just cracked a Christmas Carol joke about this guy: http://www.denverbroncos.com/page.php?id=498&contentID=4193
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by bs.uf15bosox9bears23 on Dec 14, 2008 4:16 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
These announcers are making me want to shove a Q-tip into my ear canal.
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by bs.uf15bosox9bears23 on Dec 14, 2008 4:17 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
28-0
wow. admittedly, this was the easiest game i though the vikings had left, but arizona is just laying a stinker out there.
by guy incognito on Dec 14, 2008 4:22 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
you mean playing a division winner on the road?
Atlanta was the easiest on paper. And the Giants may not be playing for anything in week 17.
This was their hardest game.
by tempchad on Dec 14, 2008 7:27 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
The Cards have played so well at home
Ugh, this bites. However, throwing teams such as the Cards are built better for comebacks but AZ’s pass rush puts them back at a disadvantage.
Fire Ron Turner!!!
Fire Angelo!!
by GallopingGhost on Dec 14, 2008 4:30 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Hub Arkush ... WISE SAGE!!!!!!!!!
Predicted a Cardinals win all week – said there was no way the Vikes could win down there. Said the Bears are the favorites to win the division. Wise, very very wise!
I'm not so mean. I wouldn't ever go out to hurt anybody deliberately - unless it was, you know, important, like a league game or something. - Dick Butkus
by iowaBear on Dec 14, 2008 4:39 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
the infection from his diamond earring
must be clouding his judgement..
by tfrabotta on Dec 14, 2008 5:41 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Am I the only one who still hurts
Everytime you see Atlanta kick a last second game-winning FG?
Fire Ron Turner!!!
Fire Angelo!!
by GallopingGhost on Dec 14, 2008 4:47 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
No sir.
My eyes bleed. They bleed.
—d
by itsugly on Dec 14, 2008 4:52 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Still not as bad as when they did it to us
in ’98.
by Robert Rence on Dec 14, 2008 5:33 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
ARIZONA SCORED
So it’s 28-7. I suppose they are not completely dead yet, maybe?
Fire Ron Turner!!!
Fire Angelo!!
by GallopingGhost on Dec 14, 2008 4:50 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Just three more, and a defensive shutout, and it goes to overtime.
I’m not celebrating yet.
—d
by itsugly on Dec 14, 2008 4:52 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Which one? :)
I’m joking.
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by ChiFan13 on Dec 14, 2008 5:06 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
pat - shoulder injury
no idea if its serious or not. if he’s out for a game or two (non-suspension related), it would make a big difference.
by guy incognito on Dec 14, 2008 6:10 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
awesome!
i love blocked FGs returned for TDs. go cards!
by guy incognito on Dec 14, 2008 5:21 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
2 more to go!
Fire Ron Turner!!!
Fire Angelo!!
by GallopingGhost on Dec 14, 2008 5:22 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
And there it goes
59 yard TD pass to Wade.
Fire Ron Turner!!!
Fire Angelo!!
by GallopingGhost on Dec 14, 2008 5:28 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
all 5 Tavaras Jackson owners in Fantasy Football are probably going through the roof right now
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by Chanman25 on Dec 14, 2008 5:28 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
If they started him
I'm not so mean. I wouldn't ever go out to hurt anybody deliberately - unless it was, you know, important, like a league game or something. - Dick Butkus
by iowaBear on Dec 14, 2008 6:07 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
man, lots of Minny transplants out in Phoenix
by Gone Savage on Dec 14, 2008 5:35 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
sickening
worst fans in the NFL I hate them…they are all on their website polishing their superbowl trophy already..
by tfrabotta on Dec 14, 2008 6:21 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Whatever
Nobody’s polishing a Super Bowl trophy anywhere.
But it was nice to watch the Vikings go out and absolutely destroy a team that nobody gave them a chance against all week long. We weren’t fortunate enough to get one of the three “bye week” teams from the NFC West on our schedule like the Bears did.
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by Gonzo on Dec 14, 2008 6:36 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Uh....
….ok?
Good for you, you beat the NFC West champion. But, using your “bye week” team logic, that win doesn’t speak for too much, huh?
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by ChiFan13 on Dec 14, 2008 6:53 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
We beat the only good team in that division
The Bears, on the other hand, got to play a Rams’ team that’s now 2-12.
There’s a small difference.
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by Gonzo on Dec 14, 2008 7:11 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Fair enough
We beat the Colts, you didn’t.
Thoughts?
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by ChiFan13 on Dec 14, 2008 7:13 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Good job beating Peyton on his week back after knee surgery?
How did you game against the Panthers go?
by Robert Rence on Dec 14, 2008 7:18 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I'm sorry, how did I forget that one week makes all the difference?
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by ChiFan13 on Dec 14, 2008 7:23 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
The trolls are out IN FORCE tonight ChiFan
Keep your sword sharpened and head on a swivel!
I'm not so mean. I wouldn't ever go out to hurt anybody deliberately - unless it was, you know, important, like a league game or something. - Dick Butkus
by iowaBear on Dec 14, 2008 7:25 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
And?
We beat Carolina. You didn’t.
We’ve beaten Green Bay. You got destroyed. There’s a good chance they’ll put the final nail in your coffin. . .if your Monday night game has any meaning at all. (There’s a chance that it won’t.)
Most importantly? We’ve beaten one more team to this point in the season than you have.
Thoughts?
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by Gonzo on Dec 14, 2008 7:19 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Two things
1) I love how riled up you get, ESPECIALLY after this “big win” of yours. I figured you’d be out hollerin with your Vikings buddies. I knew you’d come over to talk shit.
2) I’m biding my time. It’s inevitable….soon enough, you’ll be writing hate letters to Brad Childress. Kinda like the ones you did this season. Also, may I remind you that you almost lost to the Lions….twice.
Anyways, great talk, looking forward to our next chat.
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by ChiFan13 on Dec 14, 2008 7:28 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
*we're* talking shit?
worst fans in the NFL I hate them…they are all on their website polishing their superbowl trophy already..
by Robert Rence on Dec 14, 2008 7:34 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Again,
two things:
1) Who wrote that?
2) We can say whatever we want to. Know why? We’re Bears fans, and this is a Bears blog. How many Bears fan are over at wherever you guys are talking shit to you? Yeah, anyone can be here, but we’re not stooping so low as to troll on another site after your team got a victory tonight.
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by ChiFan13 on Dec 14, 2008 7:36 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
answers
1) The guy on the top of the thread.
2) I’ve been watching this thread for most of the day and commented without incident twice. I didn’t troll until you started being a douchebag,
by Robert Rence on Dec 14, 2008 7:45 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Alright, that was uncalled for.
Still, you were stirring it up. I felt I had to respond.
by Robert Rence on Dec 14, 2008 7:46 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I've been called worse
My point is Gonzo went alpha-male on us for a simple statement.
Would you appreciate it if I came over and trashed you guys after everything I saw that was anti-Bears and said “OH, YOU DIDN’T BEAT THE COLTS!” No, you wouldn’t. Same thing over here. We have our opinions of you, and you have your opinions of us. That’s ok, that’s what makes rivalries great. But we keep our opinions of each other on our respective blogs.
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by ChiFan13 on Dec 14, 2008 7:53 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Whatever
Go back and do a little research about how the folks from here conducted themselves in ’06 when our site was just getting off the ground.
I guess it really does suck when the shoe is on the other foot, huh?
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by Gonzo on Dec 15, 2008 10:24 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
That was me
Read the boards objectively..anyone here saying s the Vikings suck and they aren’t worthy to carry our teams Jocks?? No that isn’t being said..only on your board.. every other team is lucky and the Vikings are the masters of the universe. Even though you almost lost to Detroit 2x. As we gave away games to the like of Carolina, TB, and Atlanta..If our D corrdinator had half a brain we sweep the NFC south..
by tfrabotta on Dec 15, 2008 11:26 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
You know what the great part
About “almost losing” is?
The fact that it means that you won.
At last check, this isn’t the BCS. Margin of victory means jack squat.
But, hey, whatever makes you feel better. . .you guys are the ones waiting for Miss USA to pose for Playboy so that you can move from first runner-up to the top spot. Us? We don’t have that concern.
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by Gonzo on Dec 15, 2008 9:45 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
No, you just have to worry about
winning an NFL championship for the first time…EVER!!! Good luck with that..you and the saints, seahawks, etc…
by tfrabotta on Dec 16, 2008 1:31 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Hahaha
I’m REALLY looking forward to next season. You’re so polite and sullen when you’re losing, but such a complete idiot when you’re winning. I like the old Gonzo better. New Gonzo reminds me of Chad Johnson: all talk.
Regardless, I’m not the idiot who can’t stay on his own blog. I mean, it’s impressive. If the Bears were in first, I wouldn’t be going over to your “blog” and talkin up my mediocre team (yes, the Vikings are indeed mediocre). But hey, whatever floats your boat.
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by ChiFan13 on Dec 16, 2008 2:04 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
here is the kind of crap they spew over there
You idiotic piece of shit. Why can’t you Bears fans just lose the jealousy and begin to accept the fact that we are clearly the better team? I can’t stand you people. You are a complete idiot, sir. Kevin and Pat used StarCaps but they clearly didn’t intentionally break any rules. You shouldn’t even be a fan of the NFL. Childress is NOT 2nd rate. Lovie Smith got out coached by Chilly in both of the Chicago games. Go to damn hell you freaking piece of shit.
Go whack off your small dick to your picture of Roger Goodell screwing Kyle Orton.
One more thing…
Who the hell is 1st place in the NFC North?
-Gonzo2
Gonzo2
by Gonzo2 on Dec 16, 2008 12:26 AM CST up reply 0 recs
Bear fans final wimper
Seriously, an asterisk? Then lets put a HUGE asterisk on the 1985 Bears, you can’t tell me that they were all walking the straight and narrow. There is a difference between a team full of coke heads and a guy taking a dietary supplement that was not labeled properly. Furthermore, there is a very big reason why a Federal judge is taking a very close look at the NFL’s policy concerning strict liability and arbitration grievance procedures . . . mainly that they are unjust.
Pathetic…seems a little insecure about being in first place a whole 2 weeks or so..I know, know, not really used to it…
by tfrabotta on Dec 16, 2008 3:15 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
ED REED IS A BEAST.
I'm not going to even bother trying to update this sig everyday anymore... that's what the standings column on ESPN is for.
Updated on May 25, 2008
by SackMan on Dec 14, 2008 5:37 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
could you imagine our defense with him instead
of Kevin Payne?? somebody of that cailber making plays? we would be so much better..
by tfrabotta on Dec 14, 2008 6:20 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Could you imagine our defense without Bob Babich?
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by ChiFan13 on Dec 14, 2008 6:29 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
YEP. It looks something like 2006.
But… we do need to fix our safety situation… Mike Brown is not the same anymore… and everyone else stinks.
I'm not going to even bother trying to update this sig everyday anymore... that's what the standings column on ESPN is for.
Updated on May 25, 2008
by SackMan on Dec 14, 2008 6:38 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
if only the cards could stop MN
they’d have a chance to come back. i think their offense can catch up if their defense can slow down the vikings.
by guy incognito on Dec 14, 2008 5:38 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
we have the worst offensive coaches in the league
its not shocking that our discards go on to produce elsewhere. when guys like gage and wade are put into situations that maximize their talents, they produce. which is why i’m not shocked guys like haas and bennett are getting no burn. i’m pretty sure they can run 7 yard slant patterns and catch anything thrown to them – those are their strengths, and could help us out a ton. but our coaches…
by guy incognito on Dec 14, 2008 5:47 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
He... let's not forget how crappy our DC is as well...
I’m watching the Steelers-Ravens Game: Instructional video on how to blitz.
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Updated on May 25, 2008
by SackMan on Dec 14, 2008 6:09 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
BTW, in other news, TO drops another perfect pass from Romo.
keep crying, asshole
I'm not so mean. I wouldn't ever go out to hurt anybody deliberately - unless it was, you know, important, like a league game or something. - Dick Butkus
by iowaBear on Dec 14, 2008 7:29 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Gonzo's a douchebag
Devin Hester, you are ridiculous! -Jeff Joniak
by ARAM FOR MVP on Dec 14, 2008 7:33 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
He doesn't realize that a Minnesota Judge is helping win them a division.
But don’t worry, it’s karma. Because next year, for the first four games, those 2 schmucks will be out watching the QB’less Vikings go 0-4, while a Chicago Bears team with Anquan Boldin is 4-0, so it’ll all even out.
But I’m still holding out hope for this year.
Devin Hester, you are ridiculous! -Jeff Joniak
by ARAM FOR MVP on Dec 14, 2008 7:42 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Man I am with you but
It will take a lot to pry Boldin from AZ and Jackson is starting to make decent decisions but I am still not convinced he is the man. As for this year, I am not holding out for much at this point.
Fire Ron Turner!!!
Fire Angelo!!
by GallopingGhost on Dec 14, 2008 8:13 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
It's a federal judge guy
And the only thing that is helping us win the division at this point is constantly putting up 30 plus points a game and giving up less than 20 over the past few weeks. Enjoy irrelevance next week.
by Jepp The Viking on Dec 14, 2008 9:31 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
call us when you become relevant
when was the last time the vikes made the superbowl. oh few years ago when they beat atlanta in the nfc championship. you know when Morton Anderson made that 38 yard field goal. remember that one? you know the Vikes team that set scoring records?
oh wait, you got punked at home buy the Falcons.
When was the last time? 30 years? how did you do then?
by tempchad on Dec 14, 2008 10:08 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
If they get in, let them have fun losing to a wild card team.
Because next year it’ll suck when they start off 0-4, leading to an irrelevant season.
Devin Hester, you are ridiculous! -Jeff Joniak
by ARAM FOR MVP on Dec 14, 2008 10:46 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I preferred.....
…..when the giants punked them in 2000 by 41 points in the NFC championship.
by KDoggers on Dec 15, 2008 12:46 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I watched some GREAT football today
Bills-Jets
Steelers-Ravens
and now… of course: All My Children vs the Giants.
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Updated on May 25, 2008
by SackMan on Dec 14, 2008 8:11 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
hahaha
The Giants pass rush is amazing. I mean seriously….they are awesome.
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by ChiFan13 on Dec 14, 2008 8:13 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I hope they knock Romo out for good.
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by SackMan on Dec 14, 2008 8:15 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Nah
I’d rather they knock out TO. I don’t mind Romo and I need Witten for fantasy.
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by ChiFan13 on Dec 14, 2008 8:15 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Dallas defense is collecting sacks left and right
Wouldn’t mind Wade Phillips as our DC, when he gets fired in Dallas.
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Updated on May 25, 2008
by SackMan on Dec 14, 2008 9:38 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
The real question is whether or not
Lovie would allow somebody to implement the correct scheme for our players.
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by ChiFan13 on Dec 14, 2008 9:42 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
There's gonna be a battle between Lovie and Jerry
It’s already been said that Jerry absolutely did not want Babich as DC… to compromise, Lovie had to keep Turner as OC.
Now that Lovie has shown for two straight years that he has no business making those decisions (driving out Rivera and Don Johnson… benching Alex Brown for Mark Anderson… bringing in Adam Archuletta and pushing out Chris Harris, turning the Greatest kick returner in NFL history into a #3 WR), maybe things will finally change.
And BTW, we’re still trying to replace Chris Harris. Absolutely disgusts me.
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by SackMan on Dec 14, 2008 9:50 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Well, Lovie really doesn't have a say
It’s Jerry’s team. Problem is, I highly doubt Jerry will put his foot down and make Bob go away. I really hope so, but I doubt it.
I’m with ya on Chris Harris. That was one of the biggest mistakes we ever made. That’s part of the reason that I don’t want the Bears to release Dusty just yet….he’s got some skill, he just has problems staying healthy. If he stayed healthy for a year and was involved in a meaningful scheme, he could be great. I just don’t want to let him go and watch him blossom some other place.
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by ChiFan13 on Dec 14, 2008 9:59 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
When Lovie went to the SB and got that new contract... his head got bigger...
Now that his big ego has made some big mistakes… maybe he’ll shut his mouth and let Jerry do his job.
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Updated on May 25, 2008
by SackMan on Dec 14, 2008 10:15 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
BTW...
Lovie “takes pride” in hiring a coaching staff of “teachers.”
Let me ask you this… in the last two years, who on this teams stands out to you as someone who’s learned a lot and grown as a player? It’s sure not any of our safeties… sure not any of our D-lineman… and sure not any of our WRs.
Listened to the radio on Friday: Hub Arkish, Dan Hampton, Lawrence Holmes, and Doug Buffone. One of the conversations: Confusion on why Daniel Manning spends extra time after practice everyday in Lovie’s office learning how to play the Nickel… instead of spending extra time with his DB coach… or Defensive Coordinator. Hmmmm… makes you wonder.
They were also discussing Bennett… Holmes interviewed him and Bennett said he doesn’t know why he’s not playing. Holmes tried to pry to see if he’s getting help from his WR coach. Holmes’ take: they’re not working with him too much.
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Updated on May 25, 2008
by SackMan on Dec 14, 2008 10:24 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Oh God....
I hope none of that is true. Otherwise we’ve got bigger problems than just schemes and personnel issues.
I really hope Lovie isn’t goin off on this power trip. I don’t doubt that is he, I just hope it’s not the case.
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by ChiFan13 on Dec 14, 2008 10:34 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
i think much of it has to be true
our coaches seem to be absolutely terrible at teaching. look at our WR history. horrible. that the guys go on to have success elsewhere tells you something. if lovie stays, the rest of the staff deserves to get fired.
by guy incognito on Dec 14, 2008 11:27 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I dont' know how much he gets to work with Orton
but I hear Pep Hamilton is a pretty good coach and teacher.
Being Who You Thought We Were Since 2005!
by Adam T on Dec 15, 2008 9:49 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
So was Dave Toub before this year
whooooooooooooooooops. Too soon?
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by ChiFan13 on Dec 15, 2008 10:16 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Is he not?
I don’t think our problems are all or mostly on him. He lost some guys, mainly BA from last year. This year guys have been getting pulled to fill various places. Now AP is being used some.
That doesn’t even count Hester who has a load of his own problems.
Manning has been playing very well. The blocking is still there, you just have to have a guy to get through it.
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by Adam T on Dec 15, 2008 10:57 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
To add to that
I wonder how much time Toub gets with Hester to try to work through his problems? I’d guess he spends all his time with the offense learning to be a receiver.
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by Adam T on Dec 15, 2008 10:58 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Oh, I agree
Like you said, I don’t know how much time Toub has with Hester to work on his problems. I would assume not much.
Manning’s done well.
I know we lost guys on ST, but it was a pretty big dropoff too. That’s why I believe we need to take the crown off his head for now.
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by ChiFan13 on Dec 15, 2008 11:05 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I'll agree that the head coach talk
from last year was a bit much, but I don’t think we need to take anything away from him. He didn’t create the hype.
Although, with Belichick’s recent comments about ST coaches, maybe the hype will go up.
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by Adam T on Dec 15, 2008 11:13 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
As far as scheme goes...
They’re already blitzing more than ever under Lovie this year. So, maybe he’ll open up and evolve.
Would love to see a real 350lb run stuffing DT next to T. Harris, and Peanut Tillman moved to FS, while adding a better SS in the draft.
Then, bring in an experienced defensive coordinator, who excels in designing effective blitz packages, and better utilize #54, #55, #97, and #38 in the blitz.
My final note and then I’ll shut up: Mark Anderson could become a major weapon if you get creative with him: ex: get him standing up instead of in a 3 point stance… or run stunts with him.
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by SackMan on Dec 14, 2008 10:33 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
i'd like to see briggs in the middle
urlacher and whoever on the sides, at least see if briggs can shed the blocks urlacher can’t.
i like this group as a 3-4 better with anderson standing up.
maybe let tillman play up close since he’s really good at it, instead of putting him back 12 yards.
i still want spagnolo, but he might be a 3-4 guy only.
by mike b on Dec 14, 2008 10:39 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I agree with the 3-4 issue
SackMan does bring up a good point if we trudge on with the Cover 2….we need a big boy (ala Ted Washington) in the middle.
Tillman needs to play closer. Can’t believe Lovie doesn’t see that.
But you want Briggs in the middle? It seems to me that Urlacher’s lost a step….I mean, Briggs has been a beast, so I know he’d be fine at the Mike. But would Urlacher be a good fit at Will?
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by ChiFan13 on Dec 14, 2008 10:45 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
You can still play this defense with big men up front.
Leslie Frazier is pretty much doing it in Minny, with the Williams’.
And BTW… while I brought up Frazier, let me add that when he was fired from Cincy, the Bears had a DB coach vacancy. Frazier campaigned himself to come to Chicago (I remember listening to him on the SCORE) , but the Bears (Lovie) had no interest in him.
At the time, Frazier could’ve filled the DB vacancy, and worked under Rivera (not only were they both former Bears, but they coached together at Philly under Jim Johnson). Rivera was already picking up steam as a hot coaching candidate, and Frazier would’ve givin us a perfect in-house candidate to succeed him.
But, Lovie/Jerry said no… so, instead Frazier took an assistant job with Tony Dungy in Indy (in the same friggin defense Lovie runs)… and beat us in the Super Bowl that year.
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by SackMan on Dec 14, 2008 10:55 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Something snapped inside of you, huh Sack?
You’ve been crankin out posts left and right.
I realize that we could pull a Minny and have big men down in the trenches, but we probably should’ve thought about that before we paid Tommie to sit on the bench, huh?
Your numerous posting is also making me extremely depressed and negative Nancy on Lovie and Jerry.
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by ChiFan13 on Dec 14, 2008 11:05 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Just tellin it the way it is.
I stayed at home today (instead of hanging at the bar as usual) and watched football all day long. Watching the Steelers, Ravens, Giants, and Cowboys play aggressive defense got me reeling I guess.
These are the discussions I used to have on another board, before I migrated here. My other board Northwoods Bears is sadly coming to an end. But, I’m glad I found this place… was already on Bleed Cubbie Blue.
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by SackMan on Dec 14, 2008 11:22 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Never too late to add players who compliment.
And Lovie’s gotta think out the box. Just because a guy is 350 pounds, doesn’t mean he can’t move.
Ditto for the other side of the ball. Add some big bodies to that offensive line, so we can run the ball in the 4th quarter. Right now, we can’t push anyone backward.
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by SackMan on Dec 14, 2008 11:29 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Yep.
Tillman’s a physical corner. If you’re not going to let him play physical at the line… then move him to safety where he can be more of a ballhawk, and continue to force fumbles.
When they drafted him, Blache said he could be a pro-bowler at either position.
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by SackMan on Dec 14, 2008 10:59 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Tillman's a stud, that's for sure
and I will say that he could be a Pro Bowler at either. But I don’t know if I trust Blache TOO much. I remember Blache, but that was also a little bit before I started to care way too much about my Bears.
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by ChiFan13 on Dec 14, 2008 11:09 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
not letting tillman play physical is the epitome of bad coaching
our front four is quicker than most, though smaller, so buying them any extra time could lead to huge dividends. allowing tillman and graham (and vasher when he was in) to play physical on the line would definitely have allowed that to happen, especially tillman and graham, both of whom are very physical. instead, we stubbornly stick to our mismatched scheme – our DL can’t get penetration on short slant routes, etc., our DBs can’t stop those routes because they have to give up too much of a cushion, and our defense gets toasted fairly frequently. next year, if tillman stays at CB, we either need to bring in bigger linemen, an elite edge rusher (wale ’ain’t that anymore), or allow our DBs to play far more physical.
by guy incognito on Dec 14, 2008 11:32 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
so you guys are delteing comments out of here?
sweet.
by mike b on Dec 15, 2008 10:46 AM CST reply actions 0 recs
?
What do you mean?
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by ChiFan13 on Dec 15, 2008 10:51 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Yes I am.
I’ve asked and published a new set of guidelines. I’ve asked everybody to be careful with the language or at least throw a ** in there to kind of hide it.
I don’t catch every post, especially on game day when the comments pick up, but yours was at the very bottom and you dropped the F bomb in it.
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by Adam T on Dec 15, 2008 11:00 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
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