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Off-Season Priority: Running Game

But not the running back (he's great) - we need to seriously upgrade the O - Line.

In another thread someone brought up some Football Outsiders stats on the Bears o-Line. Generally speaking they do excellent football analysis there, and their stats can be used to tease apart different parts of the game, that are heavily intertwined.

For the offensive line, they use a number of measures to identify how much of a running back's success (or lack thereof) is due to the line and how much is due to him. Now I think we can all say that just looking at Forte run, simply as fans, we can tell he's an awfully good runner. But I have thought, based on my subjective assessment, that he's even better than that, and has been hampered by a line that has been extremely weak. The FO stats back this up.

Here's how they explain the stats:

Teams are ranked according to Adjusted Line Yards. Based on regression analysis, the Adjusted Line Yards formula takes all running back carries and assigns responsibility to the offensive line based on the following percentages:

  • Losses: 120% value
  • 0-4 Yards: 100% value
  • 5-10 Yards: 50% value
  • 11+ Yards: 0% value

These numbers are then adjusted based on down, distance, situation, and opponent, and normalized...

This recognizes the fact that even a bad runner can get some yardage if the initial hole is there - that's the offensive line doing it's job, but a good runner will extend the play into the next level and a bad runner won't. With a bad offensive line, even a good runner will have a hard time, if there's nowhere to go.

Some other stats they also measure, which are not adjusted for opponent, are:

  • RB Yards: Yards per carry by that team's running backs, according to standard NFL numbers.
  • 10+ Yards: Percentage of a team's rushing yards more than 10 yards past the line of scrimmage. Represents yardage not reflected in Adjusted Line Yards stat.
  • Power Success: Percentage of runs on third or fourth down, two yards or less to go, that achieved a first down or touchdown. Also includes runs on first-and-goal or second-and-goal from the two-yard line or closer. This is the only statistic on this page that includes quarterbacks.
  • Stuffed: Percentage of runs that result in (on first down) zero or negative gain or (on second through fourth down) less than one-fourth the yards needed for another first down. Since being stuffed is bad, teams are ranked from stuffed least often (#1) to most often (#32).
  • So given these stats, where do the Bears fit in?

    RUN BLOCKING
    Rank TEAM Adj. Line
    Yards 
    RB
    Yards
    Power
    Success
    Power
    Rank
    10+ 
    Yards
    10+
    Rank
    Stuffed Stuffed
    Rank




    23 CHI 4.05 3.97 64% 19 18% 14 28% 30



    The Bears are only 23rd overall, near the bottom of the league - but it's even worse than that, really: As you can see in the table, Forte is in the top half of the league once he gets out of the 10 yard O-Line area (14th overall), with close to 20% of his yards coming after he makes it past the O-Line. But his overall RB Yards are slightly below league average - this likely means the O-Line is hurting him.

    Indeed, if you look at the situations where the O-Line is most important - short yardage situations on 3rd or 4th down - they only create space less than 2/3rds of the time. And they get stuffed more than anyone in the league besides for DET or CIN.

    Now, their pass protection is fine. They're ranked 10th in the league with a 5% adjusted sack rate (sacks per pass attempt, adjusted for opponent etc.). But when you the line can't create holes to run in, it's still a serious problem.

    Football Outsiders also breaks it down by where the run goes. The Bears O-Line is uniformly bad regardless of where the run goes, with one exception: they are 11th in the league when running up the middle or off guard (these are one category). When they run Left End they are 26th, Right End they are 22nd, Left Tackle 21st, and Right Tackle 23rd. 

    What's interesting is that Ron Turner, who I have felt has been inconsistent as a playcaller, seems to have recognized this fact, as 50% of the bears runs have gone up the middle or off guard (only 10% for each end, and 15% for each tackle).

    The problem is that stuffs (which the bears are 3rd worst in) are also often a product of the interior of the line, which indicates to me that when the defense knows the bears have to run the ball in critical situations, they can stuff the middle and not worry about the outsides as much.

    This is why the O-Line has to be a priority in the off-season. We don't know how well the rookie is as St. Claire has gotten all the playing time, but it seems like we need to improve significantly. Forte may really be a quality back in this league for a long time, but not if he has no holes to run through.

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    Good stuff

    thanks.

    On pass protection I don’t know what all they use, but you can’t just factor in sacks. You could have less if you have a more mobile QB. Also have to factor how many hurries they are getting. The QB could just have a quick release and getting rid of the ball or dumping off, the line could have still broken down.

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    by Adam T on Dec 18, 2008 3:00 PM CST reply actions  

    QB Sacks

    Yeah – I don’t know how they divide responsibility but I know that their research shows that QB’s have a lot to do with how much they get sacks, and their QB ratings incorporate sacks as a heavy penalty against the QB.

    They also chart hurries. Although their charting often deviates from the official NFL charting.

    Orton is not that mobile so coming in number 10 is actually better than it seems.

    by mac30 on Dec 18, 2008 4:14 PM CST reply actions  

    Good job...

    I had brought up the stats in another thread… and I’ve read Football Outsiders for several years now… great stuff.

    On pass protection, I think this line has been aided by the use of no-huddle. So, that helps mask a weakness. However, there’s no way to cover up how bad your line is when you’re trying to convert on 3rd and 1, or 4th and 1. That’s the obvious measurement of an O-line.

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    by SackMan on Dec 18, 2008 8:51 PM CST reply actions  

    most of our success in running

    is up the middle through traps or guard pulls. We are actually very good at it. But it is almost like a trick..we cannot set up and power run over anyone which shows our lack of strength up front and that we are undersized. We need some guards over 300 pounds to push people around so we don’t have to worry about picking up 3rd and 1 all the time. We need a new center and up grade the guard and right tackle position. Beekman may be good and has shown some promise in the power run game.

    by tfrabotta on Dec 19, 2008 9:31 AM CST up reply actions  

    It's hard to tell

    what’s going on in the line just watching the TV feed because it’s always following the ball, but my subjective impression has been that other than a couple of bad (okay, really bad) snap count mistakes, Olin has been pretty good.

    I could see why his getting older might cause him to lose a few steps, but he’s always been undersized, and that never seemed to be a problem as just a brute force issue before.

    I’d have to really sit down and focus on the line to the exclusion of all else to really tell where the problem is. I suspect the Bears are aware of the problems that exist – after all, they have people who are actually paid to analyze these things. What to do about the problem, however, is a whole different ball of wax…

    by mac30 on Dec 19, 2008 10:31 AM CST up reply actions  

    They do pay people to analyze these things...

    but, nobody said they paid the right people.

    I'm not going to even bother trying to update this sig everyday anymore... that's what the standings column on ESPN is for.
    Updated on May 25, 2008

    by SackMan on Dec 21, 2008 3:07 PM CST up reply actions  

    Identifying the weakness and coming up with a strategy to improve is different.

    I’m sure they know the weaknesses, but who to target and how much to spend and who to trade and when to make a big splash and when to move up or down in the draft. That is really important. The strategy to improve the most positions and the most important positions is what being a GM is all about. Jerry is a 9-7 GM in my opinion. Good, but not great.

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    by #23 on Dec 29, 2008 8:22 PM CST up reply actions  

    Like someone said earlier o-line play is very difficult to judge on TV because the camera follows the ball. But, in my opinion to get a really good look at how the o-line is playing you would need shots from the end zone cameras which you don’t get too often on TV. Having said that, I do believe we need an upgrade on the o-line. I think some competition at the G position and RT are a must. I also think that St. Clair would be a very good full time G because when he struggled this year it was because he was out on an island against a superior pass rusher. He wouldn’t have those situations playing G.

    by PVL on Dec 30, 2008 10:24 AM CST reply actions  

    I agree to a point

    If St. Clair wants to play G, he’s gotta get quicker.

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    by ChiFan13 on Dec 30, 2008 11:04 PM CST up reply actions  

    St. Clair

    I’m pretty sure that St. Clair was a tight end in college, hopefully that would indicate that he is athletic enought to do some pulling at the G spot.

    by PVL on Dec 31, 2008 8:08 AM CST up reply actions  

    He was

    I mean, he’s athletic. I’m not saying that. What I am saying is that he’s not athletic enough now to be a below-average G.

    And regardless, he’s a below average T/G as it is anyways.

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    by ChiFan13 on Dec 31, 2008 2:03 PM CST up reply actions  

    Sign somebody new

    if you have a hard on for St. Clair, keep him for depth. His contract can’t be hurting us.

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    by Adam T on Dec 31, 2008 2:21 PM CST up reply actions  

    So you mean the priority is Run Blocking...

    Cause Forte is pretty damn good.

    Clutch: A measurement of how much better or worse a player does in high leverage situations than he would have done in a context neutral environment. http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/index.php/glossary/

    by bdalebs on Dec 31, 2008 11:38 PM CST reply actions  

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