Playoff Fate Not Their Own
by Adam T on Dec 2, 2008 12:49 PM CST
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PrintWith the loss to the Vikings this past weekend the Bears lost the ability to control their own destiny so far as the playoffs are concerned. Since it is fair and almost a lock to say that only the division winner will make it in, it is time to take a look the playoff tiebreakers.
Current Standings:
| TEAM | OVERALL | DIVISION |
| Minnesota Vikings | 7-5 | 3-2 |
| Chicago Bears | 6-6 | 3-2 |
| Green Bay Packers | 5-7 | 3-1 |
Remaining Schedule:
Vikings-@ Detroit, @Arizona, Atlanta, NY Giants
Bears- Jacksonville, New Orleans, Green Bay, @ Houston
Packers- Houston, @ Jacksonville, @ Chicago, Detroit
Supposing the Vikings lose the Williams boys and manage to drop one and let us in to the discussion, assuming we win out here are the tie breaks for a two club tie:
1. Head-to-head (best won-lost-tied percentage in games between the clubs).
2. Best won-lost-tied percentage in games played within the division.
3. Best won-lost-tied percentage in common games.
4. Best won-lost-tied percentage in games played within the conference.
5. Strength of victory.
6. Strength of schedule.
7. Best combined ranking among conference teams in points scored and points allowed.
8. Best combined ranking among all teams in points scored and points allowed.
9. Best net points in common games.
10. Best net points in all games.
11. Best net touchdowns in all games.
12. Coin toss
To further confuse this if the Vikings lose twice and the Bears go 3-1 with a lose to GB and the Pack win out, here is the scenario for a 3-way tie:
1. Head-to-head (best won-lost-tied percentage in games among the clubs).
2. Best won-lost-tied percentage in games played within the division.
3. Best won-lost-tied percentage in common games.
4. Best won-lost-tied percentage in games played within the conference.
5. Strength of victory.
6. Strength of schedule.
7. Best combined ranking among conference teams in points scored and points allowed.
8. Best combined ranking among all teams in points scored and points allowed.
9. Best net points in common games.
10. Best net points in all games.
11. Best net touchdowns in all games.
12. Coin toss
Note: If this scenario plays out and the above tie breakers eliminate one team, the tie breakers revert to the two club scenario for the remaining clubs.
Looking at the schedule I don't see much sunshine and puppies for the Bears. New Orleans, Green Bay and Houston are all pass heavy teams and could bust us all over the field. Jacksonville is the only game I currently am optimistic about.
The bonus for the Bears is the Vikings schedule even with the Williams' in is tough. With the exception of Detroit the remaining three are teams that can beat them. I'd say at worse they go 2-2.
I think the Packers can pack it in. They need to win out to have any chance. If they win out they need the Vikings to go 2-2 just to get into a tie break situation. I don't see them going 4-0.
The Bears need to win out and have the Vikings go 2-2, so they can win this outright. If this falls to tiebreaks, unfortunately they lose out. The Vikings have a better record against common opponents.
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Well the Williams brothers are out, but I say we gotta win out
And we could very well easily win out if the defense can just STOP being inconsistent. Jacksonville, New Orleans, and Houston should be wins. Green Bay worries me alittle though
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inconsistent?
I would say that the Bears’ defense has been very consistent. Consistently bad.
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by big_lowitzki on Dec 2, 2008 10:55 PM CST up reply actions
Yeah, I agree
I mean, Tennessee had a whole 29 yards on the ground, and then we gave up 200 rushing yards against Green Bay.
What about that screams consistency to you?
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Last I heard...
Defenses had to stop the run AND the pass. And in both games, the defense could not do that.
Most, if not all, defenses can stop one aspect of an offense.
The Bears D has been bad all year.
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Folks keep talking about stopping Tenn on the ground...
But he completed 30 passes against us, for damn near 300 yards and a couple of TD’s. There were also 2 dropped passes that probably would have gone for huge gains (if not scores) beacuse the receivers got behind our DbB’s (imagine that).
Stopping LenDale White and Vhris Johnson is truly an awesome accomplishment, but when a QB completes 30/40 passes (or whatever it was)… sigh
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Be specific then
You hold other people to be specific, you do the same.
Our run defense has been, most of the season, consistently good. Our pass defense has been consistently bad.
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huh?
I was specific. The defense has been consistently bad. Period.
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But not really
Our run defense has been consistently good. I agree that our pass D has been consistently bad.
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so...
… you don’t think that the defense, overall, has been bad?
I never mentioned the run defense vs. the pass defense. There is one defense.
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Most people break D's up into two sections
Overall, it’s been bad, partially due to the fact that we rank damn near last in the league for passing D.
There is a reason places like ESPN split run and pass D.
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sure...
… but that isn’t what I said.
I said the defense has been consistently bad. And, as you said, “it’s been bad.”
The run defense has obviously been better than the pass defense, but I don’t want half of a defense.
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