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Chicago Bears Playoff Chances - Game Thread

The Bears need a lot of help to make the playoffs.  The season could have been over had a trio of teams all won their games.

They received a small boost with the Dallas Cowboys going down to the Baltimore Ravens.

Games of Note:

Baltimore Ravens VS. Dallas Cowboys  - Outcome: Ravens  33-24

San Diego Chargers VS. Tampa Bay (1 PM) - Outcome: Chargers 41-24

Atlanta Falcomes VS. Minnesota Vikings (4:15 PM) - Outcome: 24-17

Playoff Scenarios for each team:

Minnesota Vikings
The Vikings clinch the NFC North title with:

1) A victory over Atlanta OR
2) A tie with Atlanta and Chicago loss or tie OR
3) Chicago loss

Tampa Bay Buccaneers
The Bucs clinch a playoff spot with:

1) A victory over San Diego and Atlanta loss and PhiladelphiaI loss or tie OR
2) A victory over San Diego and Atlanta loss and Dallas loss or tie

 

Atlanta Falcons
The Falcons clinch a playoff spot with:

1) A victory over Minnesota and Tampa Bay loss and Dallas loss OR
2) A victory over Minnesota and Tampa Bay loss and Dallas tie and Philadelphia loss OR
3) A victory over Minnesota and Tampa Bay loss and Philadelphia loss and Chicago loss or tie OR
4) A victory over Minnesota and Tampa Bay loss and Philadelphia loss and Dallas clinches strength of victory tiebreaker over Chicago

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Thanks for posting every teams scenerion except the bears you friggin retard

by WavyGravy on Dec 21, 2008 11:01 AM CST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

If you have been reading the site for more than an hour

you’d know that the Bears need pretty much everybody to lose.

They cannot clinch this week, so they don’t have a playoff scenario yet.

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by WCG on Dec 21, 2008 11:22 AM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   1 recs

happy holidays..

Devin Hester, you are ridiculous! -Jeff Joniak

by ARAM FOR MVP on Dec 21, 2008 2:00 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

hahahaha

Someone’s not having a good one, obviously.

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by ChiFan13 on Dec 21, 2008 2:03 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Most do.

But some don’t know how to scroll down and find the front-page story on our situation. I mean, it’s tough to figure out.

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by ChiFan13 on Dec 21, 2008 3:24 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Scenarion

I heard Tribe called Quest was going to name their song that but it just didn’t rhyme with anything.

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by iowaBear on Dec 21, 2008 2:39 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Bears need a lot of help

I’m not 100% on this, but I don’t think we win the tiebreaker against anyone, so we need to win our playoff spot outright. So, here’s what we need. We need to win both our games in every scenerio

1) Minn to lose two

2) – Philly to lose to Washington this week…Next week, Philly beats Dallas.
     - Atlanta loses to Minn this week…loses to St Louis next week OR
     - Tampa loses to SD this week…loses to Oakland next week

3) – Atlanta loses two AND Tampa loses 2

So, clearly our best chance is for Minn to lose two tough games against Atlanta and the Giants.

I believe if Tampa, Philly, and Minn win today, we are done…is this correct?

Again, I did this quickly, so I’m not positive that this is right. There may be a scenario where we win a tiebreaker

by NovaBears on Dec 21, 2008 11:23 AM CST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Correction

Ok, I lied, we can actually win a tiebreaker over the Cowboys. Assuming they lose to Philly next week and we win our last two games, we’ll have the same NFC record at 7-5.

Thus, it comes down to games against common opponents, which include: Philly, Green Bay, and St. Louis. We went 3-1 in those games, they went 2-2 (again, assuming they lose to Philly next week), and we’ll own the tiebreaker.

Thus, I believe we are alive no matter what happens today since Minn or Atlanta has to lose. So, even if Tampa wins out, we can make it if Atlanta loses out and Philly loses once.

by NovaBears on Dec 21, 2008 11:36 AM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Nevermind

If Dallas loses to Philly, we need Philly to lose this week to Washington. And, if we win twice, we’ll have a better record than the Cowboys.

Ok, I’m done trying to figure this out…let’s just hope we get some magic over the next two weeks and sneak in.

by NovaBears on Dec 21, 2008 11:39 AM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Matt Forte

Any word on if he is playing?

Thanks in advance.

by Chris Hanes on Dec 21, 2008 11:45 AM CST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Yes

He’s just been takin it easy on his toe. He’ll play.

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by ChiFan13 on Dec 21, 2008 12:16 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

vikings are gonna choke

The best shot my team has is to win the division. Atlanta is going to win today, I have no doubt in my mind about that. Im just scared about that New York game. Their gonna be resting all their players and stuff. If minnesota does beat atlanta then we have like a 10% chane of winning that wild card spot. we would need atlanta and tampa to lose out and philly to lose 1 of 2. We would win tie breaker over dallas which is good news. So that is why our best shot is to take the division and run with it. LETS GO BEARS

da bears

by dawindycitybears23 on Dec 21, 2008 12:31 PM CST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

wild card will be nearly impossible

we’ve got to win the division. if turner has a good day, i think atlanta will win. the giants have nothing to play for next week, but coughlin is a hard ass, plus they need to get jacobs back in some sort of rhythm, so i expect they’ll play pretty hard against the vikings next week. we still have to go 2-0, which may be tough considering how good houston has played at home lately.

by guy incognito on Dec 21, 2008 2:20 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

not to get bogged down on scenarios

Unless I’m missing something, the Bears lose a tiebreaker to Dallas. If they win their last 2, their conf record is 7-5, while if Dallas beats Philly creating a tie, Dallas’ conf record is 8-4. The Bears are screwed anyway.

by Santiago Peak on Dec 21, 2008 2:00 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

another awesome performance by the cardinals so far

they are a one-dimensional team, and are badly exposed outside of their division. i figured that was the one game the vikings would definitely win in their last 3. let’s hope the falcons run wild with pat williams out. we need the division title to make the postseason – too many teams have to lose for us to get the wild card.

by guy incognito on Dec 21, 2008 1:01 PM CST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

That loss against Minnesota really hurt us...

I’m still peaved about the stupid decisions made in that game by Lovie.

by aznsensation on Dec 21, 2008 1:02 PM CST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Ah, fear not

Vikings have to play against Matt Ryan and Burner Turner, which won’t be an easy game by any stretch. And the Bucs are in the process of getting creamed by the Chargers.

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by ChiFan13 on Dec 21, 2008 1:11 PM CST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

if by creamed you mean beating...

man, the chargers are even more inconsistent than we are. losing merriman killed their defense.

by guy incognito on Dec 21, 2008 2:04 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

At the time, the Chargers were dominating

Shows what an hour can bring….

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by ChiFan13 on Dec 21, 2008 2:09 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

they're winning again

incredibly inconsistent. they’re so similar to us.

by guy incognito on Dec 21, 2008 2:18 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I'm just hoping the Falcons show up today

That’s all I’m hoping for.

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by ChiFan13 on Dec 21, 2008 2:22 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

0-15 for the Lions

and it is NOT even close today..

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by Chanman25 on Dec 21, 2008 2:22 PM CST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

lot of pressure on GB next week

you don’t want to be the team detroit beats

by guy incognito on Dec 21, 2008 2:29 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

42-7 Saints, and there is still one quarter left to play

seriously, I wonder if the Lions tickets for next weeks game will actually increase in price because some people want to witness history, right?

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by Chanman25 on Dec 21, 2008 2:26 PM CST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I'd actually buy tickets to go see that, if for some inane reason I were in Detroit

I don’t think I’d even try to heckle them; the situation at-hand is worse enough.

by NittanyCub on Dec 21, 2008 3:06 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

btw, would-be 1800 yard runner benson is busting out today

admittedly, its cleveland, but he could actually get 200 yards on the ground.

by guy incognito on Dec 21, 2008 2:31 PM CST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

haha in the 3rd place game for my fantasy league i started him....

larry has that system down to a science. Especially with the way the economy is….big wigs like larry coming in dressed in their mink coats and 24k gold cigarrete holders with pockets lined with coke make for a large draw during shift changes.
by BobbySouthSide on Dec 9, 2008 4:24 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs

by Jbasic89 on Dec 21, 2008 3:18 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

so far everything that we want to happened has happened right?

larry has that system down to a science. Especially with the way the economy is….big wigs like larry coming in dressed in their mink coats and 24k gold cigarrete holders with pockets lined with coke make for a large draw during shift changes.
by BobbySouthSide on Dec 9, 2008 4:24 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs

by Jbasic89 on Dec 21, 2008 3:18 PM CST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

do we have a chance for the wild card?

larry has that system down to a science. Especially with the way the economy is….big wigs like larry coming in dressed in their mink coats and 24k gold cigarrete holders with pockets lined with coke make for a large draw during shift changes.
by BobbySouthSide on Dec 9, 2008 4:24 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs

by Jbasic89 on Dec 21, 2008 3:27 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

It is all listed above, but as of now

We need the Redskins to beat Philly and then Philly to beat Dallas.
We need Tampa Bay to lose next week.
We need Atlanta to lose today and next week.

All in all today is looking pretty good. If the Skins win, we had the perfect day.

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by #23 on Dec 21, 2008 3:32 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

are we guaranteed to be alive tomorrrow night?

larry has that system down to a science. Especially with the way the economy is….big wigs like larry coming in dressed in their mink coats and 24k gold cigarrete holders with pockets lined with coke make for a large draw during shift changes.
by BobbySouthSide on Dec 9, 2008 4:24 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs

by Jbasic89 on Dec 21, 2008 3:46 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

so far a good drive for the Falcons

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by Chanman25 on Dec 21, 2008 3:23 PM CST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

When did Tavaris Jackson become good?

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by Chanman25 on Dec 21, 2008 3:39 PM CST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

i dont know but if he is any good....

they are going to be ridiculous

larry has that system down to a science. Especially with the way the economy is….big wigs like larry coming in dressed in their mink coats and 24k gold cigarrete holders with pockets lined with coke make for a large draw during shift changes.
by BobbySouthSide on Dec 9, 2008 4:24 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs

by Jbasic89 on Dec 21, 2008 3:44 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

definitely

i hate to say it, but the vikings are definitely more talented than us. remember they were a sleeper superbowl pick in the preseason.

by guy incognito on Dec 21, 2008 3:52 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

14-7 Falcons

larry has that system down to a science. Especially with the way the economy is….big wigs like larry coming in dressed in their mink coats and 24k gold cigarrete holders with pockets lined with coke make for a large draw during shift changes.
by BobbySouthSide on Dec 9, 2008 4:24 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs

by Jbasic89 on Dec 21, 2008 3:52 PM CST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

the vikings are killing themselves

atlanta’s not playing bad, but minny should be up by at least a score.

by guy incognito on Dec 21, 2008 4:19 PM CST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

With all of this talk of Playoff Scenarios

Let’s not forget the Bears actually have to win 2 games…

by mac30 on Dec 21, 2008 4:19 PM CST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Not True

A lot of the wild card teams are losing or have lost. We would still have a shot.

It’s just that just like they have to win their games – we have to win ours. We can’t just assume that because the right teams lose we’re in. If the right teams lose, we have a chance.

by mac30 on Dec 21, 2008 4:38 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

holy crap

if i were a vikings fan, i’d be going crazy right now. they have dominated this game, but keep turning the ball over.

by guy incognito on Dec 21, 2008 4:53 PM CST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

24-7 right now...

I agree, the Vikings must be going crazy right now. The Bears gotta win tomorrow, no excuses, it’s pretty much win or go home.

by aznsensation on Dec 21, 2008 5:13 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

T-Jack once, AP twice

Either this is karma or some really, really, really bad fundamentals. I don’t know which.

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by ChiFan13 on Dec 21, 2008 5:14 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

besides the fumble

jackson is having an insanely good game.

by guy incognito on Dec 21, 2008 5:19 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Well, yeah, I would hope so

I mean, it’s not like he has a bad group of players around him. If Orton had his OL and a better receiving corps, he’d look great too.

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by ChiFan13 on Dec 21, 2008 5:28 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I love it

that is what they get for coming on our site and talking crap last week!!! Bad karma baby!!

by tfrabotta on Dec 21, 2008 5:20 PM CST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I have never

seen a coach whine like Childress does..nearly every play…

by tfrabotta on Dec 21, 2008 5:38 PM CST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

both atl and was have leads

if they hold them, i think basically everything would have broken right for us today. i still think we have a long shot for the postseason, but if the leads hold, this will have been a pretty incredible day.

by guy incognito on Dec 21, 2008 5:53 PM CST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

It lets us decide our fate

If we go out tomorrow night, play hard, and still lose, I can accept that. It would have been crappy to not determine our own fate.

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by ChiFan13 on Dec 21, 2008 5:55 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

agreed

i’m still iffy about us in general (our defense needs a serious makeover), but at least we’ll get to play for it.

by guy incognito on Dec 21, 2008 5:58 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

yes this will be

typical Bears..everything set up to win the division and they will let GB steal it from us..

by tfrabotta on Dec 21, 2008 6:05 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Atlanta's doing a decent job

right now of blowing a lead, and preventing us from even getting depressed tomorrow night.

I'm not so mean. I wouldn't ever go out to hurt anybody deliberately - unless it was, you know, important, like a league game or something. - Dick Butkus

by iowaBear on Dec 21, 2008 6:07 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Blowing this lead (sorry, didn't post correctly)

I'm not so mean. I wouldn't ever go out to hurt anybody deliberately - unless it was, you know, important, like a league game or something. - Dick Butkus

by iowaBear on Dec 21, 2008 6:07 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Yes

pulling a Bears circa 2008 choke job..

by tfrabotta on Dec 21, 2008 6:09 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

My bad,

guess we all good now!!!!!!!!!!!!

I'm not so mean. I wouldn't ever go out to hurt anybody deliberately - unless it was, you know, important, like a league game or something. - Dick Butkus

by iowaBear on Dec 21, 2008 6:11 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Where are the Vikings trolls now?

Here, troll-e, troll-e, troll-e

I'm not so mean. I wouldn't ever go out to hurt anybody deliberately - unless it was, you know, important, like a league game or something. - Dick Butkus

by iowaBear on Dec 21, 2008 6:12 PM CST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Dykings lose!

Bleeding Cubbie Blue since 1985.

by Bricks and Ivy on Dec 21, 2008 6:13 PM CST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Oh man

did the Eagles game really end with them on the Washington 1-yard line when time ran out, thus losing, 10-3? Wow!

I'm not so mean. I wouldn't ever go out to hurt anybody deliberately - unless it was, you know, important, like a league game or something. - Dick Butkus

by iowaBear on Dec 21, 2008 6:16 PM CST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Unreal....

Here’s my quick take on the Vikings game, so all the trollers can see:

1) You lost because you fumbled the ball, what, seven times? And lost four? Sorry, you deserved to lose any game when that happens.

2) Last play of the game, both WR and CB were going at it. Easy PI call on either team.

Anyone see the end of the Philly – Washington game? WOW. Close as hell.

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by ChiFan13 on Dec 21, 2008 6:18 PM CST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Wow is right

Kick it to me... I'm open!

by #23 on Dec 21, 2008 6:20 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Ok - Carolina game tonight

maybe someone already mentioned this, but we need Carolina to win tonight against the Giants, pretty much. Because otherwise the Giants have nothing to play for next Sunday against the Vikings, right?

If this is the case, I hate the thought of cheering for the Panthers. But I’ll do it.

I'm not so mean. I wouldn't ever go out to hurt anybody deliberately - unless it was, you know, important, like a league game or something. - Dick Butkus

by iowaBear on Dec 21, 2008 6:18 PM CST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Yeah

I mean, it’s not necessary that Carolina wins, but it would give a little fire to the Giants.

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by ChiFan13 on Dec 21, 2008 6:21 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Next week is meaningless for the Giants

This week determines home field for the playoffs. Next week won’t matter for the Giants.

Let’s hope they play it out like they did last year against the Pats in what was a meaningless game for them at the time.

by NovaBears on Dec 21, 2008 6:21 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

It depends what Coughlin wants

Last year, the Giants played a meaningless game against the Patriots pretty hard. Coughlin seems like someone with a lot of pride, I wouldn’t be surprised if he made his guys go out there and play hard as well.

by aznsensation on Dec 21, 2008 6:22 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Especially if Carolina plays hard tonight and whips them

Coughlin will be pissed, and you know he’ll want to take it out on someone before the playoffs.

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by ChiFan13 on Dec 21, 2008 6:23 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Ah, so both teams are 11-3, so whoever wins tonight

wins any tiebreaker so next week is meaningless. Shit.

I'm not so mean. I wouldn't ever go out to hurt anybody deliberately - unless it was, you know, important, like a league game or something. - Dick Butkus

by iowaBear on Dec 21, 2008 6:25 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

WAIT WAIT WAIT

What if there’s a tie tonight? Then next week means something, right?

Go tie! Cmon Tie! Tie me up in some of your ties, Ty!

I'm not so mean. I wouldn't ever go out to hurt anybody deliberately - unless it was, you know, important, like a league game or something. - Dick Butkus

by iowaBear on Dec 21, 2008 6:29 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

What you can tie?

Kick it to me... I'm open!

by #23 on Dec 21, 2008 6:32 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Donovan!

Didn’t know you had time to post at WCG! Cool!

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by iowaBear on Dec 21, 2008 6:33 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I see this happening next week...

Giants will play their starters for the first half. The backups will come in, but will still play hard because they are playing for jobs next season. So depending on which Vikings show up next week, we still have a chance. Once again, this is all moot if the bears don’t win their next two.

by aznsensation on Dec 21, 2008 6:30 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

STOP IT

the giants have nothing to play for NO MATTER WHAT. The Sunday night game means nothing

i’ve said this for two weeks now. The GIants week 17 meant nothing as soon as they lost to Dallas

by DartmouthCubsFan on Dec 21, 2008 7:06 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Just like last year's game meant nothing too

…I’m failing to see your point.

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by ChiFan13 on Dec 21, 2008 8:18 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

i'm not saying they won't play people

or they won’t play hard. I do think they will

I’m simply asking people to get their facts straight. Last week people were saying we wanted Dallas to beat the Giants so the Giants would have something to play for against Minnesota, which was asinine because it did the exact opposite

now we have people saying we want the Panthers to win so the Giants will have something to play for, which again isn’t a fact

no matter the result of tonight’s game the Giants motivation is the same. Whether Coughlin will rest players or not i don’t know, but the result of tonight’s game should have no impact on the decision, and i simply wish people would get their facts straight.

by DartmouthCubsFan on Dec 21, 2008 9:35 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

But that's really not true

You’re telling me a Tom Coughlin team going into a game after a loss will be the same motivation-wise as a Tom Coughlin team that just won?

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by ChiFan13 on Dec 21, 2008 10:06 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

The Giants won in Week 16 last year

38-21 dominating Buffalo

what else you got for me?

by DartmouthCubsFan on Dec 21, 2008 10:21 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Great!

Can I throw out a random score and have it mean something? Umm….30-29!

no matter the result of tonight’s game the Giants motivation is the same. Whether Coughlin will rest players or not i don’t know, but the result of tonight’s game should have no impact on the decision, and i simply wish people would get their facts straight.

How do you know that? Minus one year, can you prove that the Giants motivation is moot next week?

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by ChiFan13 on Dec 21, 2008 11:21 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

can you prove

they’d have more if they lost?

as for the “random score”, this was your argument for how they played with meaning last year its about 5 posts up

So was your point above completely meaningless along with mine, or do you want to come up with another point to contradict your one above?

As I said before, the result of last night’s game has little impact on their “motivation”, based on their playoff positioning. This doesn’t mean they won’t come out and play good football and give it their all, it simply means whether they won or lost, I’d imagine they’d come out with the same “motivation”.

I personally, think the Giants will come out and play a good game wanting to keep momentum going into the playoffs, as they did last year. I just don’t happen to think the result of last night’s game made one bit of difference and so far you’ve chosen to argue that point by stating the following:

“Just like last year’s game meant nothing”

and the post above about a random score (which is interesting, to call it random… ya know… since it was the ACTUAL score not some made up one of the Week 16 game last year that preceded the Week 17 game which you used to make your argument prior)

by DartmouthCubsFan on Dec 22, 2008 10:12 AM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

My point is that neither of us truly know

I was being facetious….you bit anyways, so here we are. Regardless, if we’re gonna argue it, let’s do it.

Last season, the Giants were NOT the team to beat going into the NFC playoffs. The Packers & Cowboys looked great, and it was assumed by many that the Super Bowl ran through one of those teams. The Giants weren’t the confident team they are now. They literally got hot at the greatest time possible.

So, with that backdrop in place, Coughlin obviously pushed his team and didn’t give them a break.

You really think Coughlin will sit his guys now?

My point is: It may not have made a huge difference in terms of the playoff hunt, but I bet last night’s game would’ve made a big difference in terms of Coughlin’s demeanor. And since he’s, you know, the head coach, that’s a difference.

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by ChiFan13 on Dec 22, 2008 10:46 AM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

are you not reading my posts...

because if you were, you’d see your question was answered

“You really think Coughlin will sit his guys now?”

like here:

I personally, think the Giants will come out and play a good game wanting to keep momentum going into the playoffs, as they did last year.

I guess I could engage in what’s different in this year vs. last year and cite reasons I think they’re more likely to play guys this year, but then I’d essentially be arguing by myself in a corner and completely ignoring that we’re saying the same thing (I’m simply saying the result of last night didn’t matter, I STILL think he’ll play his guys)…. oh wait… that’s what you’re doing right now!

by DartmouthCubsFan on Dec 22, 2008 10:51 AM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Personally doesn't mean logically

I personally think the Bears should not run the FB dive; Lovie feels it’s logical to keep that bullshit play in there. Those two don’t mean the same thing.

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by ChiFan13 on Dec 22, 2008 10:56 AM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

you've done it again

is this inadvertent? Or do you continue to refute your own posts just 3 posts down as some way of “baiting me”, i don’t get it.

To recap:

You say last year’s game was indicative of the Giants in a situation where they would not have anything to play for as an argument against… well i’m not sure what it was against (i guess a point you thought i was making that the Giants would lay down, which i wasn’t)

Then the next post you say how the Giants result last night would matter if they lose because they’d be more motivated.

I go back to your original premise, citing the fact that they WON in Week 16 the year before in the game YOU BROUGHT UP as an indication of why they’d play people

You call this a “random score” and then ask me to prove the Giants motivation

In your next post, you TITLE the post saying neither of us could possibly know their motivation

now here… you’re claiming LOGIC as a way of suggesting you do KNOW their motivation

Is this some new wave form of argument where you negate all your own previous points?

I’ve used “Logic” to show that i didn’t think they’d rest players regardless of the result (Citing last year’s Week 16 win, which coming off of that with NOTHING TO PLAY FOR, they still played all their guys and played hard).

As for other LOGICAL arguments for why last night’s game didn’t matter. How about the fact that this year they have a built in week of rest with the Bye, which they didn’t have last year.

So If (follow me here, this could be REALLY difficult for you, my thoughts and comments are going to be consistent and lead in a linear direction. This concept seems to baffle you) the Giants played all out last year when the week of rest was not built in because they didn’t want to lose their edge. Wouldn’t it be “logical” to think again no matter what the result last night, they’d want to play all their guys and keep their edge this year, since they already have a week built in to rest after Week 17????

by DartmouthCubsFan on Dec 22, 2008 11:34 AM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Easy broski

You’re taking this way more personally than I am….holiday season got ya down? I know that Christmas thing is a big pain in the ass, but lighten up a little bit.

Again, using your profound and all-knowing logic, you have shown that we’re arguing the same point. Now, at this point, you’re going to have to find someone else to argue with. Since we agree (and seems have agreed), find someone else to play with.

I'M A MAN! I'M 22!

by ChiFan13 on Dec 22, 2008 12:32 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

The only ways we make the playoffs are:

Both scenarios require the Bears to win their next two games. If we lose any, we’re pretty much out.

1st and easiest scenario: Vikings lose next week’s game against the Giants.

2nd scenario, more difficult because it involves more teams: Eagles need to beat the Cowboys next week and Tampa Bay needs to lose against the Raiders.

These two are really are only legitimate ways of getting in. Both are doable, but it’s a moot point if the bears don’t win their next two.

by aznsensation on Dec 21, 2008 6:20 PM CST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Don't count out a tough Giants team

next week against the Vikings. The last thing Coughlin will want is to go into the playoff bye week on 3 straight losses. Assuming that the Giants continue to get pounded this evening, which it is looking like it. The Giants will want to make sure that they are out of this losing funk and ready for playoff football. But, this is all a moot point unless we get the job done tomorrow. I just don’t see Coughlin giving up the last week of the season if they are coming off a 3rd straight loss.

by ArmyCubFan on Dec 21, 2008 8:41 PM CST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Yay!!! We have a chance!!!

Clutch: A measurement of how much better or worse a player does in high leverage situations than he would have done in a context neutral environment. http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/index.php/glossary/

by bs.uf15bosox9bears23 on Dec 21, 2008 8:41 PM CST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Bears vs. Packers

37-3 Bears.

So, if I am reading the two options correctly . . .
we can either a) keep dye or b) trade dye . . . is that you Phil Rogers?

by jc2313 on Dec 11, 2008 4:53 PM CST up reply recommended Unrec 1

by Where Triples Go to Die on Dec 21, 2008 9:25 PM CST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Ever watch a show called Saturday Night Live?

aznpersuasion?

So, if I am reading the two options correctly . . .
we can either a) keep dye or b) trade dye . . . is that you Phil Rogers?

by jc2313 on Dec 11, 2008 4:53 PM CST up reply recommended Unrec 1

by Where Triples Go to Die on Dec 22, 2008 5:41 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Man... watching that incredible Panthers-Giants battle

Just validates why we need to add another good RB to compliment Forte. Williams-Stewart and Jacobs-Ward were the formula all game for both teams in late December.

Forte and Michael Bush would be a nice duo. Of course… they’d need an actual offensive line to run behind.

I'm not going to even bother trying to update this sig everyday anymore... that's what the standings column on ESPN is for.
Updated on May 25, 2008

by SackMan on Dec 21, 2008 10:49 PM CST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

forte and kevin jones wouldn't be bad

jones ran pretty good when the bears actually gave him carries earlier in the year. unless he’s hurt, not using him more to spell forte is yet another example of why our team has some of the worst coaches around.

by guy incognito on Dec 21, 2008 11:13 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

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