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More Offseason Discussion

We might as well start talking about the offseason because no matter what happens next week, as has been documented and discussed in numerous posts, this is a team with major problems and no clear solutions.

A couple of days ago I focused on the O-Line as a major offseason need. The problem is that there aren't a lot of great options out there. I think any acquisition the Bears make has to have a couple of characteristics:

  • Relatively high level of performance
  • Relatively young player

The Bears are not so complete a team that they can acquire an aging veteran who will give you a season or two before being useless - that only works when the team is on the cusp, and just needs one or two more pieces to complete the puzzle. Similarly, for many, but not all, of our position needs, we can't really afford to take a flyer on a guy who seems like he has potential but hasn't really proven himself - our need is too acute. With all that said, we also have to recognize that money is not unlimited - so any Free Agent  acquisition will come at the expense of some other possible pick-up.

QB

There are no good options at QB. If by some miracle Philly is stupid enough to trade McNabb, that would be great. Otherwise draft a QB high, and let him and Caleb Hanie sit and wait for Orton to play out his last year, while learning the NFL ropes.

WR

Unfortunately, this is not a great year for FA Wide Receivers. T.J. Houshmandzadeh is oooold, and though there is some chance that Anquan Boldin will be available in trade - it's not a sure thing by any means. For some inexplicable reason Earl Bennet has not been able to get on the field - apparently he doesn't drop passes with quite as much style as Booker, Davis, Lloyd, et. al. (I'm not saying he's good - but he can't be worse than what we put out there - it's not physically possible).

One possible option is Antonio Bryant. He's a bit troubled, but he's having an outstanding season, and he can always go car racing with Lance Briggs. There's a good chance he's available, as the Bucs have a lot of players going to Free Agency and may not resign all of them.

Ultimately though, this is another area with no clear answers. This is made more problematic by the Bears' inability to identify the talent that they have. Solid players (not stars) have had trouble getting on the field for the Bears (or are not resigned) but have productive, if unspectacular, careers with other teams (e.g. Gage, Wade, Bradley).

The only WR I want back next year are Hester and Bennet - and neither should be the premier WR.

CB

With Graham and Tillman starting, and Vashar backing up - why do we need CB? Two reasons:

  1. We haven't really been that good in pass defense. Teams have had a lot of success moving up and down the field on us, and we have had particular problems getting off the field on 3rd and real long. We need to make some improvements in this area.
  2. Nnamdi Asomugha is an Unrestricted Free Agent. This guy is the best corner in all of football - by a large margin - and he's young too.

If we can't get him, Chris Gamble from Carolina is also a FA and they have one of the best pass defenses in the league.

S

Another area where you might wonder at the need until you realize that Mike Brown is a FA, and even if the Bears resign him he is not likely to be healthy a whole year. So you have to gamble that Payne improves a bit and that Steltz learns how to tackle, or that Daniel Manning gets moved back to Safety and can actually play the position.

In this context I would like to see them add another player to the mix to see if he could emerge. Tampa Bay's Will Allen is a FA, and would fit in well here. He knows the defensive scheme and has been a star on special teams for them. Given all of their Free Agents, mentioned above, it's not likely that they'll resign him, and as a backup, he'll probably come cheap.

OT

We have a lot of questions along the offensive line. I would like to see the Bears make a play for Jordan Gross at Right Tackle. The Panthers may put the Franchise tag on him again but according to Pro Football Weekly they are also trying to keep Peppers and CB Chris Gamble (mentioned above), and don't like spending big FA money. 

Vernon Carey would be my second best option, along with - amazingly - Marc Columbo as a close third (funny how he worked out in the end).

In his last year under contract Tait could fill in as an above average backup on either side, while Chris Williams should be healthy and ready to start at Left Tackle (he better be!). I would also consider a late round draft pick on Tackle well spent - especially one with some size, as the undersized nature of the line has caused us no small amount of trouble.

OG

There aren't that many good guards available. Jahri Evans is a Restricted Free Agent so I'm not sure we would be able to get him, and if he's not available I would like to try to get Mike Goff (even though he's a bit older).

Football Outsiders stats show that NO has one of the top O-Lines in the league, and while SD does not have a good rushing offensive line overall, that has mostly been due to the incredible poor production from the left side of the line, while the right side has been good, and Goff is considered an excellent player. 

LB (Bonus)

This is not a pressing need but the Ravens are going to be trying to resign Ray Lewis and Terrell Suggs, and may not have money for Bart Scott who is an excellent Linebacker. Urlacher is not getting any younger, and the 3rd linebacker position is not exactly solid on the Bears. considering how important the Linebackers are in the scheme the Bears run, it would be nice to pick up a top player at this position.

FB

Just kidding.

Summary

I think the Bears should use the top of the draft to focus heavily on receivers and a QB. I don't think the Bears should sign anyone over 32 (except for maybe Goff). Free agency seems to be a forum where good deals can be found on O-Line, as teams spend the big money elsewhere - but there aren't that many players available.

I haven't looked into the Bears Salary Cap situation, so I don't know how much of this will be feasible - maybe next post...

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Since this is really not a good QB class in the draft unless you want them to pick up a Matt Stafford or Sam Bradford, if they decide to come out. I think Bradford is going to be a good pro but I am worried about Stafford because he is inconsistent. Therefore I think they should draft O-line early someone like Duke Robinson an left guard from Oklahoma, who is like 6-6 330 and was nominated for the best O-lineman in college football. Now I would be ecstatic with someone like Michael Crabtree but they probably will not be able to get him.

So who are you actually wanting in the draft at QB or WR?

by chase17 on Dec 23, 2008 5:39 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

Personally

I would prefer they take a bunch of each and hope that one or two pan out. But I haven’t really looked into it that much yet.

by mac30 on Dec 23, 2008 6:31 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

There are plenty of O-line options out there in FA

And… I hate to beat a dead horse, but my top pick is Vernon Carey from Miami. A 350+ lb mauler who will knock people off the ball. We’d never have problems converting 3rd and 1 with that guy…

So.. go get him… and draft another mauler on the first day to play LG. Two new guards who can maul people will completely transform our running game into a powerhouse with Forte.

So.. go get him… and draft another mauler on the first day to play LG. Two new guards who can maul people will completely transform our running game into a powerhouse with Forte.Depth chart would look like this
LT – Williams (boom or bust) – St. Clair
LG- Rookie – Beekman – Dan Buenning
C- Kruetz – Beekman (who’s probably a better center than guard)
RG – Carey – Garza
RT – Tait – Carey – St. Clair

So.. go get him… and draft another mauler on the first day to play LG. Two new guards who can maul people will completely transform our running game into a powerhouse with Forte.Depth chart would look like this
LT – Williams (boom or bust) – St. Clair
LG- Rookie – Beekman – Dan Buenning
C- Kruetz – Beekman (who’s probably a better center than guard)
RG – Carey – Garza
RT – Tait – Carey – St. ClairThat would be a major improvement for one off-season… then, next off-season they can focus on RT.

So.. go get him… and draft another mauler on the first day to play LG. Two new guards who can maul people will completely transform our running game into a powerhouse with Forte.Depth chart would look like this
LT – Williams (boom or bust) – St. Clair
LG- Rookie – Beekman – Dan Buenning
C- Kruetz – Beekman (who’s probably a better center than guard)
RG – Carey – Garza
RT – Tait – Carey – St. ClairThat would be a major improvement for one off-season… then, next off-season they can focus on RT.And for gods sake… GET RID OF TERRANCE METCALF ALREADY! I am absolutely shocked that they haven’t found a single lineman in the last 5 years to bump Metcalf from the roster. The guy is horrible… flat .. out… horrible.

I'm not going to even bother trying to update this sig everyday anymore... that's what the standings column on ESPN is for.
Updated on May 25, 2008

by SackMan on Dec 24, 2008 12:49 AM CST reply actions   0 recs

Sorry... don't know what happened there with the formatting of that post.

I'm not going to even bother trying to update this sig everyday anymore... that's what the standings column on ESPN is for.
Updated on May 25, 2008

by SackMan on Dec 24, 2008 12:50 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Isn't Carey a tackle?

I’m pretty sure he’s not a guard. But I have no objection to getting him. He was my second pick for right tackle.

by mac30 on Dec 24, 2008 9:09 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

fa + draft

too many positiobs to fill for the bears to take either fa or the draft off. kind of felt like they sat out during the last fa signing period. Atlanta is the model i would like the bears to follow… signing and drafting impact players (turner and ryan)

OLine must be addressed during FA… bears + drafting olineman = blech

IMO this draft is going to be great and full of “impact” players. I would much prefer tebow, bradford, to Orton but i think we can win with Orton.

Bears should draft Taylor Mays S from USC in round 1. I’ve long wanted to draft a receiver here, but for as long as i can remember teams have been able to pass at will against the bears. Mike Brown can not be counted on to stay healthy for a whole season.
dont know enough about college ball to know wrs not named harvin or crabtree, but either of those guys would be great.

by No It All on Dec 24, 2008 9:16 AM CST reply actions   0 recs

good thing is

we need help in so many positions no matter where we pick in the first round we should be able to get a qb, lineman, wr, safety or defensive end!

i keep hearing on here that beekman is a better fit for center than guard, what’s the thought process behind that? is it just because he’s too small to be a guard? i don’t think that necessarily makes him a good center, more like not a good lineman prospect at all.

by mike b on Dec 24, 2008 4:46 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

beekman...

…. did play some center in college. And the size thing is an issue – centers tend to be smaller than guards and tackles.

Bringing moderation to a place I don't moderate.

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by big_lowitzki on Dec 25, 2008 9:18 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

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