Houston To Go With Bench Play?

by Adam T on Dec 24, 2008 7:29 AM CST Comment 35 comments

I know that the Houston Texans are out of the playoff race, but I have say this is a bit unexpected. Apparently Texans Coach, Gary Kubiak, believes in community soccer rules that all guys get to play.

Because there is no postseason, the Texans might shake up their rotation Sunday so they can see players who haven’t been given much of an opportunity this year. Kubiak said all of that is being discussed. He made it clear his priority is to win.

“We talked about that a little bit upstairs a while ago,” Kubiak said, “but we have a game to win, so we’ll do whatever we think is best to beat Chicago.”

Obviously, I don't expect the Texans to clear their bench, but it doesn't take much. One CB or LB that hasn't played a lot missing one tackle that leads to a TD could decide the game.

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Guess I'd do the same thing

If I was in Kubiak’s position

by 815Sox on Dec 24, 2008 8:21 AM CST reply actions 0 recs

It does have some sense to it

Play the young guys against a team that has everything to play for and see what they can do. Rather than waiting until spring training. I’d say it’s a far better evaluation.

by Arbusto on Dec 24, 2008 8:28 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs

I don't have an issue with just

stating that it could benefit us.

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by Adam T on Dec 24, 2008 8:42 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs

Spring training??

Are they going to be trying out for the Astros too?

by GoCubbies34 on Dec 24, 2008 10:24 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs

This is getting ahead of myself,

On the “Waddle & Silvy Show” on ESPN1000 yesterday, they thought if we Win, Vikes lose, we would play the Bucs(assuming they beat oakland) in the wild card in Chicago.

Has anybody else heard anything? I know its getting a bit ahead, but i’m just curious if anybody else knows.

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by chibullsfan03 on Dec 24, 2008 8:25 AM CST reply actions 0 recs

Not sure

We would host a wild card and I think we would be the higher seed than AZ, so we should get Tampa instead of Atlanta, but my question is does Tampa have tie breakers over Dallas? If Dallas and Tampa win they are both 10-6.

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by Adam T on Dec 24, 2008 8:41 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs

And to add to that

is there a better first game for us than Tampa coming to Chicago with this type of weather?

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by Adam T on Dec 24, 2008 8:43 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs

no

there isn’t

but more because TB is playing the worst of all those teams as well. They’re banged up defensively and without Earnest Graham they’re a different team running the ball.

by DartmouthCubsFan on Dec 24, 2008 9:13 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs

isn't TB

something like 0-20 something when playing in weather below 30 degrees or something like that?

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by Adam T on Dec 24, 2008 9:21 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs

they're 0-20

when its below freezing, but the majority of those games were when TB was in the NFC North and was generally bad.

I don’t think the temperature played as much of a role as they were just bad back then. Sure it has some impact, but my guess is playing better competition had more of an impact.

I guess i’m saying i don’t think the stat has the predictive power it would suggest, i think a lot of other factors go into that record than just the temperature

by DartmouthCubsFan on Dec 24, 2008 9:58 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs

They won a SB while in the NFC North,so

they were a good team for some years while playing us twice a year.

I agree records like that aren’t the best at predicting, but 0-20 does mean something.

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by Adam T on Dec 24, 2008 11:22 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs

not true

in 2002, they had 4 divisions the year they won the Super Bowl

by DartmouthCubsFan on Dec 24, 2008 12:18 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

but yes

they were good some years they played us

and some of those years they happened to play us early in the season when the weather wasn’t a factor

i do agree it might mean “something”, i just don’t think it’s predictive. I think the reason TB would be the most friendly matchup is because they’re the weakest team, not because of the weather

by DartmouthCubsFan on Dec 24, 2008 12:21 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

At the same time

Did you think Rodgers being 0-7 with less than five minutes to go in the game tied or with the lead (I believe that was the scenario) was predictive?

I agree that Tampa Bay is the weakest team right now. BUT, if they suck playing in cold weather games, it won’t hurt our cause either.

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by ChiFan13 on Dec 24, 2008 1:08 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

again

did Rodgers lose that game? No… he got his team down the field in a situation to win the game when he needed to

you’re doing results-based analysis here

by DartmouthCubsFan on Dec 25, 2008 8:43 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs

Jesus

Alright buddy….I tried to make it easy and sensible for you, but you couldn’t handle the softball throw.

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by ChiFan13 on Dec 25, 2008 10:18 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs

Christ

(title) following on your theme above…

whenever i read your posts i have no idea what point you’re arguing. If you REALLY think Rodgers lost that game for GB then…. well… you’re an idiot. Since every throw he was asked to make resulted in a first down

and if you didn’t think he lost the game and thus that was the “softball”, you’re then once again choosing to try to argue with me about something we have the same opinion on

by DartmouthCubsFan on Dec 25, 2008 7:08 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

Rodgers didn't win the game either!

Sorry….you can make every explanation you wish (he made every throw they asked him to), but he didn’t do anything to win the game.

Rodgers was 0-7 going into our game with a tie or lead in the last five minutes. It shows a lack of closing on GB’s part (and Rodgers, cuz, you know, he’s only the quarterback).

He may not have lost the game, he sure as hell didn’t win it either.

My point in bringing up the Rodgers tidbit was that you didn’t think Tampa’s 0-20 mark in the cold was predictive. I say it is. That’s a horrible track record.

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by ChiFan13 on Dec 25, 2008 7:34 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

The Bucs were never in the NFC North, they were in the NFC Central then the Southern Division then the NFC South

by PolishSausage.Ditka.Bears. on Dec 24, 2008 1:10 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

Sorry. NFC south is the southern division

by PolishSausage.Ditka.Bears. on Dec 24, 2008 1:12 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

Ok, they weren't in our divison

but I stand by my statement, it means something. I wouldn’t bet money because of it, but it has to be mentioned.

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by Adam T on Dec 24, 2008 1:28 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

no

Dallas controls their own destiny

if we win the division we’re playing Dallas, TB, PHI, or ATL (we could play ATL if DAL won and ATL lost since DAL would have conf tie-breaker)

If we win the wildcard it means we’re playing MIN

by DartmouthCubsFan on Dec 24, 2008 9:13 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs

here are the scenarios

I’ll list the ways we could play each team, that i can see:

Scenarios for division championship:

We play Dallas if:

1. CHI Wins
2. Min Loses
3. Dallas Wins

We play TB if:

1. CHI Wins
2. Min Loses
3. TB Wins
4. Dallas Loses

We play PHI if:

1. CHI wins
2. Min Loses
3. TB Loses
4. PHI beats Dallas

We play ATL if:

1. CHI wins
2. Min Loses
3. Dal wins
4. ATL loses

Scenarios for wildcard:

All wildcard scenarios lead to us being the 6th seed with MIN being the 3rd seed, so if we get in via wildcard, we’re playing in MIN

by DartmouthCubsFan on Dec 24, 2008 9:19 AM CST up reply actions 2 recs

Thanks

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by chibullsfan03 on Dec 24, 2008 9:42 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs

That would be such a gift

The Texans are a hard team to beat at home. It would be great if they played some of their rookies and backups to see what they have for next year. It would give us so much more of a shot.

by mac30 on Dec 24, 2008 9:12 AM CST reply actions 0 recs

I just wonder if

NYG are going to play their starters all game… (hopefully, they come out swinging for the fences like they did last year vs NE in Week 17, but beating the Vikes ain’e exactly like trying to ruin someone’s perfect season.)

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by Dane Noble on Dec 24, 2008 9:35 AM CST reply actions 0 recs

Coughlin said

he is treating this game just like every other game. From what I have been reading the only guy who might get the day off is Jacobs, since he has been banged up. I imagine if they get up by a lot or down, they might pull some guys.

Here’ s hoping.

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by Adam T on Dec 24, 2008 9:58 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs

he did?

Last I saw, Coughlin said that he was going to do what was “best for his team,” and that he would consult with his training staff about resting players.

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by big_lowitzki on Dec 25, 2008 9:10 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs

Theres a good chance that they do

They’ve been in a 2-game slump before beating Carolina, and im sure they want all the momentum they can get going into that bye week

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by chibullsfan03 on Dec 24, 2008 10:39 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs

I doubt it

Why would they? They have a bye week, that gives them plenty of time to prepare. Plus they are going to want to see how some 2nd stringers and 3rd stringers play in case the situation arises in case they need to play them.

If you were Coughlin, would you play your starters for the majority of the game?

The way I look at it, they put themselves in the position to be able to “skip” this game.

by 815Sox on Dec 24, 2008 11:07 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs

Interesting point,

And I don’t disagree with your reasoning… but it is always a dangerous thing to play the “If I were the coach” game considering the intelligence of professional coaches (not being sarcastic).

But, alas, I will play this time…

If I were Tom Coughlin, I would rest Jacobs, as WCG stated, and other guys who may have some ouchies. For the rest of the starters… I would play them for the first half, and maybe a series or two in the second half to moniter how well they make adjustments declared during halftime.

I would also, if I were Tom Coughlin, integrate the cheerleaders into pregame, halftime, and post-game “motivational speeches”, and videotape it for the enjoyment of the fanbase.

Apologies if that offends anyone… but it was MY daydream of if I were the coach.

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by Dane Noble on Dec 24, 2008 12:04 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

Reminds me

A guy called Boers and Bernstein yesterday asking if the “NFL would force the Giants to play the starters so they could make the game exciting” ….

by 815Sox on Dec 24, 2008 12:30 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

Going into the playoffs momentum is everything.

Coughlin knows this because of what his team was able to achieve last season by being the wild card and having to win every week and what that steady play did for his club. He will play his guys.

by PolishSausage.Ditka.Bears. on Dec 24, 2008 1:14 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

Hmm I dunnno

Now obviously last year was a completely different scenario, but the Giants didn’t rest anyone for the game against the Pats in Week 17, they put up a good fight and it seemed to ignite their championship run. I think Coughlin would like his team to completely forget about those 2 bad losses and beat, if not stay competitive with a playoff adversary.

Vinny Del Negro interviewed for the job today. I mean come on! Nobody else thinks this is nuts?
by Juiceboxjerry on Jun 6, 2008 4:21 PM CDT actions actions 0 recs

by Ozzie Montana on Dec 24, 2008 1:06 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

Yes

I would play my starters if I was Coughlin and the reason is the Indy Colts always seem to be in the same position that the Giants are now in so they rest their starters. Then save for the one year that they won the superbowl they always seem to lose in the first round they play in.

by chase17 on Dec 27, 2008 9:57 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs