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First Post Of Bears Off Season

The Raiders beat Tampa Bay....the hell you say.

The Eagles beat Dallas...the hell you say.

That means the Bears are in the playo...wait.  We lost?  Imagine that!

So the 2008 NFL season is officially over for the Chicago  Bears.  So I decided to put up this post now instead of after the Super Bowl, because I assume some of you will leave for the offseason or at least not stop by as often.  

Firstly, I wanted to thank each everyone of you who stopped by regardless of whether you just lurked in the darkness to get your Bears fix or if you were one of our more active and louder commenters.  You all attributed to the success of Windy City Gridiron this year.  We saw record numbers across the boards.  From visitors to comments to new users alike, we saw our highest numbers.

I also want to thank ChiFan13 for stepping in this year and helping out with the site. The biggest areas that benefitted from his involvement are the site’s improvement with participation in the comment section and in spam control/ runaway comment thread prevention.    You can expect to see more including front page posts out of him coming soon. 

It seems that everybody is getting used to the new platform, towards the end of the season the Fan Post sections saw a significant bump as did everybody's willingness to REC a Fan Post.  I expect we will see more cool new features in the future.  Again if you have any problems with the platform or have a idea of how we can improve feel free to email me and I'll make sure it gets passed on to the appropriate people.

 

Star-divide

Secondly, I want to let everybody know that just because our season is over does not mean the site hibernates.  In fact it may just be getting going.   We will continue to bring you all the Bears news and opinions we can and we will continue to give you Game Threads right up to the Super Bowl for you to discuss.

Soon you will start seeing post season breakdowns and recaps.  We will look at all positions, groups, coaching and schemes and try to lay out what would be the best option for the Bears moving forward.

As many of you old timers know the Free Agency period and NFL Draft are big deals around here.  I am hardcore into both and that will not change.  Windy City Gridiron will be your best stop for all the news, rumors, gossip, opinion and reaction up to and after both periods.  How about the first mock draft prediction?

JEREMY MACLIN, WR, MISSOURI

There is no question that Devin Hester has made strides as a wide receiver but he is the only real weapon the Bears have at wideout and they still need some more playmakers on offense. Jeremy Maclin is actually similar to Hester in many ways and they are both the types of all-around threats that opponents must account for as receivers, runners and return men. The explosive Maclin was the nation's leader in all-purpose yardage and not only would he give the Chicago offense a major shot in the arm but he could also share the return workload with Hester and help keep him fresh. Maclin is an even better prospect than former #9 overall pick Ted Ginn, Jr. was coming out of college and there really isn't as much separating him and Michael Crabtree as some might think. Despite using their top pick last year on Chris Williams the Bears could still use some more help along the offensive line and with age and injuries beginning to take their toll it wouldn't hurt to add some reinforcements in the secondary either. With that said it's pretty clear that above all else Chicago needs more guys who can put the ball in the endzone. If they are lucky enough to get a crack at a Top 10 talent like Maclin the Bears should pull the trigger.

If it is Free Agency or Draft related, you will see it here.

If you recall at the beginning of the season, ChiFan13 was running some Chicago Bears history posts.  We pulled those since it was unimportant once the season kicked off.  You can expect that those will be returning, including new items like Best/Favorite Bears player of all time and Best/Favorite Bears Game/Moment of all time.

As always the success of this site depends on you and I am always interested in hearing what you have to say.  Feel free to drop me a line on anything, even if it is to criticize my lack of grammar skills.  Do you have any ideas for what you'd like to see on the site?  Email me.  Do you have a complaint or suggestion about the site?  Email me.  Are you interested in helping with the running or posting of the site?   Email me.  

Despite the Bears inconsistent play it has been a great season here at WCG and I look forward to a great off season and to the Bears Super Bowl run next year.

 

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Hell of a season, much better than I predicted

However this off season will define how this team will be for years to come. We can either take a step forward this off season or a huge step back depending on how Angelo wants to handle the situation. We are an aging team that needs to have some areas upgraded heavily, ie. WR, OL, and secondary

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by Chanman25 on Dec 29, 2008 1:14 PM CST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

it really is up in the air

we have been harping on WR and OL all season, but with the way our D played and the amount of money we have wrapped up in them the way JA handles that could be what defines us.

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by WCG on Dec 29, 2008 1:15 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

agreed

I also think that Angelo needs to take a good look at the coaching staff. I think he should sack Babich and Turner. Lovie should be given one more season with a new OC and DC, and if that fails, well Its hard to say it, but he should be fired..

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by Chanman25 on Dec 29, 2008 1:19 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Just to play the opposite side here...

Why should Ron Turner be fired? He’s not John Shoop… and he’s not Terry Shea. He did a pretty good job considering the absolute lack of talent that was provided for him since he arrived.

The only thing wrong with him… is that he’s not his brother Norv, who is among the best offensive brains in the NFL.

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by SackMan on Dec 29, 2008 1:24 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

What

You got to be shitting me!! Did you watch any games these past few years. Turner forgets whatever schemes work well and abuses the plays that don’t work. He has no creativity whatsoever and can’t find a hole in a defense if the defense was short 6 players. Ever notice how we suck against screens on D? Because we never practice or run them with any effectivness. Correct me if I’m wrong, but wouldn’t screens and dump passes work well with an aging o-line that can’t push over a broken mailbox. The hell with turner, babich…and lovie as well for allowing this mess to go on all season. I say good riddons of them all!

by stumpo on Dec 29, 2008 1:47 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Um...

You’re going to say we don’t have a screen pass game? After our RB, Matt Forte, led our entire team with 63 receptions this year?

You must be the one not watching any games. Try being rational for once.

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by SackMan on Dec 29, 2008 1:59 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Correction

Dump pass is not a screen pass, screens actually have linemen out there blocking. And no we do not have a screen pass game. There are many different ways you can run a screen, but not us(turner). I just can’t imagine anyone that isn’t family sticking up for Turner. Guess you like running all run plays up the middle of the field all game long.

by stumpo on Dec 29, 2008 2:24 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Our screen passing is pretty miserable

Altho part of that is because our o-line is all geriatric. They cant get out there and block down field.

Ron Turner’s play calling is pretty bad in general. Theres no doubt our lack of talent makes it extra easy for D-Coordinators to out adjust him but he isnt exactly doing much to make that a challenge anyways.

by reprisal on Dec 29, 2008 2:48 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

STUMPOOO

You obviously didn’t watch the game sunday because Turner did call a screen to Peterson and it went for almost twenty yards. It was a SCREEN not a DUMP, Peterson had offensive lineman out infront of him.

Turner just like Orton has very little to work with making it totally unfair for us to blame things on him.

by PVL on Dec 29, 2008 3:35 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

But is it on Turner that the o-line

with the expection of Beekman is old?

He can only scheme for what he has, not what we’d all like to have.

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by halfblindcubbiegirl on Dec 29, 2008 5:12 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Babich Needs to Go

I think 2 years is more than enough time to prove that Bob Babich can’t be a coordinator at the pro level. It’s time for him to go. We need someone who can bring back the nastiness that the Bears used to be known for.
I’m ok with Ron Turner. Yes, he sometimes gets conservative, but I think he does a lot with the (lack of) talent he has on the O-Line and WR positions.
Lovie will need to produce next year, or he should be out.
JA needs one heck of a draft and free agent/trade period (ANQUAN BOLDEN!!!) or else he needs to go. But the McCaskey’s will probably be too cheap to get rid of anyone.

by MacinNAttack on Dec 29, 2008 3:18 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

It just also seems that the inconsistancies of last year came back to bite us again

Like last year, we were pretty much competitive in every game and had a secure lead as well. The defense just seemed to always blow it in close games. The only difference between this year and last was two Lions victories, unfortunately…

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by Chanman25 on Dec 29, 2008 1:23 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

totally agree

the offense was supposed to suck, and it did at times. but the defense had no real excuses – pretty healthy season, yet we were mediocre at best, and downright awful at times. we’ll see pretty quickly if JA thinks it was scheme/coaching, personnel, or both, based on whether babich is fired or not. i think its almost certain he’s gone, as should be all our defensive coaches. the fact that manning had to go to lovie to learn how to play the nickel best at the end of the season says it all. the soft coverage scheme when we create no pass rush was moronic. the blitzes that are so obvious that they never work were a sign of incompetence. not teaching mark anderson more than one pass rush move was a sign of terrible teaching. not putting in your best personnel, like anthony adams and corey graham, was another bad sign. i honestly am not sure if our talent on defense is that good, but at the very least, i know they were put in the absolute worst positions to succeed consistently this year.

by guy incognito on Dec 29, 2008 1:26 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I disagree on Grahm, but agree on Adams

We did put in Grahm and I think at the right time. Vasher has talent and they gave him a chance. They pulled him pretty early when they figured out he wasn’t tackling. He did have a wrist injury. Not sure if that was the reason. He did tackle well in the few games he played in 07.

Adams got his shot too late.

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by #23 on Dec 29, 2008 7:44 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Upgraded Coaches Also???

Wow, good thing we brought in a defensive minded head coach to Chicago, glad to see our steady decline since the disease(Lovie) came on board. Do I really have to go through another season with boy genious(turner) calling the plays and lovie standing idle whithout making ANY adjustments during a game. For me this year – I wasn’t expecting a whole lot, but I was utterly disgusted in the way the coaches got our boys ready and their lack of being able to sustain a lead or finish a game. And one more thing, how come Chicago is plagued with shitty quarterbacks. Congrats Orton, you made the list…..the list of shit qb’s we’ve had since ’85. hope to not see you next year Orton.

by stumpo on Dec 29, 2008 1:22 PM CST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

The bears should trade away a big name D player for a Standout number 1 WR who is under 30; Fire babbich; Pick up some coaching talent that is about to hit the market; and Attempt at grabbing O-Linemen who have proven themselves and are under 30.

by jeepdays on Dec 29, 2008 2:46 PM CST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Not a Bad Job Bears!!!

In fact, things could be very much worse. Take a look at my poor Brownies.
They moved to the bottom of the AFC North Division, but things are a changing
now because we have someone coming out of deep freeze to help.
Take a look at the Youtube video,

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nz8zYC55pMs

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by PierogiLUVR on Dec 29, 2008 3:11 PM CST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

The guy just became the first coach in NFL history to go 0-16.

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by SackMan on Dec 29, 2008 11:55 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Dick LeBeau was a horrible HC

but as the DC in Pittsburgh he has them playing incredibly.

--Torch

by torch on Dec 30, 2008 6:44 AM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Dick LeBeau is a 71 year old football genius

who invented the “zone blitz” defense, and helped take the Bengals to 2 Super Bowls in the 80s, and helped take the Steelers to 2 Super Bowls as well…

Don’t ever compare him to Rod Marinelli… ever.

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by SackMan on Dec 30, 2008 8:42 AM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

About a week ago

I was thinking about the draft and Maclin was the first guy who popped into my head.

"I don't know, I think the Bears should just defer so they don't have to put their offense out there to start" -Tony Kornhesier

by rea5661 on Dec 29, 2008 4:03 PM CST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

what about romeo?

marinelli seems like an obvious pick, assuming babich is canned, but he just presided over an 0-16 season. also, maybe we need someone NOT all about the tampa 2, which has been getting picked apart for us for over 2 years – even in 2006, some teams did some major damage against it.
also, while we’re thinking outside of the box…what about trading tommie harris for boldin, straight up? i’m not crazy about tommie’s play anymore. he’s a top 5 DT when right, but he hasn’t been right for 2 straight years. if we’re paying that much money at the position, just throw in a few more bucks and get haynesworth.

by guy incognito on Dec 29, 2008 5:12 PM CST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

its actually a pretty fair deal, i think

harris, even when not right, is decent. when he’s on, he’s unstoppable. great DTs are definitely more valuable than great WRs. plus the cards need defense.

by guy incognito on Dec 30, 2008 8:41 AM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Just wanted to say thanks to WCG & Chi

for keeping this place fun. I’m glad I started coming here. Sure beats swearing to my dog about how stupid the Bears are, she just looks at me like I’m stupid. :-P

And I don’t feel like making a fanpost so I’ll just post these quotes from ProFootball Weekly’s Whispers as I think its something worth keeping in mind before we go into full “I hate everyone who wears a Bears jersey” offseason stupidity mode:

It’s clear Bears QB Kyle Orton hasn’t been the same since returning from an ankle injury. "He hasn’t been very good the second half of the season," said one team insider, who doesn’t think the ankle is Orton’s greatest concern. "The real problem is the lack of support from his receivers and his inability to set himself and survey the field like he was doing earlier, because the pocket has been collapsing quicker."

Theres also this in the Audibles section, so at least a close observer of the team notices things:

"How many balls does (Bears WR) Rashied Davis have to drop before he is evaluated for what he is? He’s a good kid, a hard worker and the kind of player it’s difficult not to like, but he’s got nine lives. It’s almost embarrassing with the key drops he has made all year that he keeps getting opportunities. … The other thing I can’t figure out is why Anthony Adams was inactive for so long. He has been playing his (butt) off the last two weeks. Why wasn’t he on the field sooner? You want to talk about mismanagement of personnel …"

So, at least maybe somone up at Halas is awake and watching whats going on… maybe they can hit Angelo/etc with a cluebat.

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by halfblindcubbiegirl on Dec 29, 2008 5:19 PM CST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I suppose I can speak for myself...

…and the dog by saying thank you :)

I am surprised about Sheed and Anthony Adams. For that matter, I’m surprised about Marcus Harrison too. Sheed should have been cut. Adams and Harrison deserved to have more opportunities thrown their way.

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by ChiFan13 on Dec 29, 2008 6:16 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

That's all Hub Arkish...

And he states those opinions week after week on 670 The Score. Yet, it rarely makes an impact on Bears management.

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by SackMan on Dec 29, 2008 7:43 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Good ol Hub

I’m makin a six-hour trip up to the Twin Cities (I know, gag me) to see my girlfriend tomorrow….who’s on in the morning? I thought Mike North was gone from the AM slot, but then I thought I heard an ad saying he was.

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by ChiFan13 on Dec 29, 2008 7:53 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

lol

No no, I’m just bitter about the Vikings being NFC North champs.

By the way, 494 was a fracking trip today. Took me an hour and a half to go 21 miles.

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by ChiFan13 on Dec 30, 2008 11:32 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Took me that long to go 15 after work on 494

Even though it’s MN, nobody knows how to drive when it snows. You’d think they’d never seen snow here before.

by Arbusto on Dec 31, 2008 7:53 AM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I was thinking the same thing but I didn't want to say it.

Why was 494 backed up so much yesterday? At least when I was on it, there weren’t any accidents. I realize that there are some spots it gets bottlenecked, but it was stop and go the whole way.

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by ChiFan13 on Dec 31, 2008 1:53 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Yeah, I don't listen to the Score

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by halfblindcubbiegirl on Dec 29, 2008 9:48 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Occasionally

I’d post on here. Checked in every few days but didn’t post as much. That’ll probably change in the off-season when I’m forced to watch nothing but college basketball in the south. As far as the season goes, it’s disappointing not to make the playoffs but there were alot of positves. 1. Matt Forte…. WOW!!! What a pick he turned out to be. A lil uneasy w/ the workload he had but he’s basically all we had on offense. 2. Kyle Orton… our QB. Maybe not a stud, but he knows the offense and he’s not rattled nearly as much as Mr. Grossman. Considerin the amount of talent we put around him(or lack there of) I thought he did a damn good job. 3. Beekman, Payne, Adams, and Hester…. will all be starters hopefully for many years to come. Babich needs to be fired and somebody w/ passion, enthusiasm, and a GREAT DEAL of knowledge w/ the Cover 2 needs to replace him. Trade Vasher and a 2nd rd pick and possibly a 2nd for 2010 for Anquan Boldin. Pick up a couple of younger vets for both the offensive and defensive lines through FA, and draft S, OL, DE, and WR in the early rounds of the draft. Until I return, BEAR DOWN!!!

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by Acreman20 on Dec 29, 2008 6:41 PM CST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Beekman could be a starter... at CENTER.

He should be replaced at guard with someone who can maul in the running game.

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by SackMan on Dec 29, 2008 7:44 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

If that is the case maybe we can trade Kruetz.

He’s past his prime. He is solid though and may bring a return to someone close on their OL.

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by #23 on Dec 29, 2008 7:51 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Anyone else expect everything to go right for us...

except that we would lose on a last second FG/TD by Houston?

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by bs.uf15bosox9bears23 on Dec 29, 2008 8:08 PM CST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Offense needs help, but it all starts with the D

Lovie was hired for his defensive acumen, but if he doesn’t fix what’s wrong next year he’ll be run out of town, despite Angelo’s preferences and the McCaskey’s unwillingness to pay the rest of his contract. In a word, their performance this year was disgraceful – a defense that’s among the top 5 in terms of payroll committed, yet will finish near the bottom for the second consecutive year! Some veterans need to go, and Ulracher’s on the top of my list – he was seemingly flattened by every guard this year, never got off any blocks, and has no speed left to run down opposition RB’s or TE’s. He got his money this year, thanks for the memories – SEE YA!

by Waylon on Dec 29, 2008 9:04 PM CST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

The bottom of Adrian Petersons' cleats.

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by SackMan on Dec 29, 2008 11:53 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Bottom of yards allowed, and sacks achieved

They will finish near the bottom of both categories, despite blitzing more than any other year that I can remember.

by Waylon on Dec 30, 2008 9:46 AM CST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

because the blitz scheme is awful

worst in the league. its so obvious when we are going to blitz. the differences between our blitzing and, say, the ravens, steelers, or eagles is remarkable. they disguise their blitzes so well, and use all types of angles. when they blitz, they seem to at least rush the play, if not get a sack/run for a loss. good coaching leads to good blitzes. its not like we don’t have the athletes…that’s literally the one thing we definitely have on defense.

by guy incognito on Dec 30, 2008 10:23 AM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

this is also a bigger issue

we blitz so much because we can’t generate any pass rush. we can’t generate a pass rush because we play an obscenely big cushion with physical but not blazing fast DBs. receivers are open pretty quickly against us, meaning our line, which isn’t so good as-is (undersized, bad angles, etc) has no chance to get to the QB. change the scheme (more physical play by the CBs, less cushion for WRs), you probably generate some pass rush, allowing us to blitz (which we don’t do well, anyway) less. another consequence of being so bad on blitzes is that we get killed on those plays. we never get home, and the QB then faces less coverage, allowing him to get big plays on us.

by guy incognito on Dec 30, 2008 10:27 AM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Unfortunatley it;'s a catch-22 because of our weak personell

Our safeties our bad… really bad. Which is mind boggling because all we do is add new safeties year after year. Meanwhile, our head coach raves about Brandon McGowan and how much he’s missed as if the guy is Ed Reed. Please.

So… if our DBs give up ten yards at the LOS, they minimize the damage that could be done to our deep zones against our bad safeties… but they give up the easy slant all day long.

If our DBs jam at the line the prevent WRs from easily running the bubble… our safeties are now extremely prone to the big play.

Catch-22.

Conclusion: get some real safeties.

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by SackMan on Dec 30, 2008 10:50 AM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

that would help

and speaks to the insanity of our agenda. safeties are KEY to a cover-2. and not these 4th/5th round safeties. yeah, we draft a lot of them, but nobody high enough. you need a stud back there ie what mike brown used to be before the injuries.

by guy incognito on Dec 30, 2008 10:57 AM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

They were terrible at getting a sack

yet quite good at gettting turnovers (3rd in INT"s), so there was some pressure on the QB

http://www.windycitygridiron.com/2008/12/29/704311/final-football-outsider-ra

the ESPN leaderboard doesn’t account for quality of offense as Football Outsiders does and the Bears played against some very good offenses last season, particularly pass offenses. So their 21st ranking in total yards allowed isn’t a fair assessment in my opinion…

7th on Defense, 7th in Weighted DVOA as well
   11th vs Pass
    5th vs Rush
   11th vs #1 WR
    8th vs #2 WR
   19th vs other WR
    3rd vs TE
    24th vs RB’s
    21st in Variance (rather inconsistent in other words)

Defensive Line (http://www.footballoutsiders.com/stats/dl2008)

2nd overall, 11th in Power Rank, 27th in 10+ Rank, 1st in Stuffed Rank, 27th in Sack Rank

their blitz packages are terrible though….

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by thecubreporter on Dec 30, 2008 12:17 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Thanks for all your hard work WGC and ChiFan!

I really appreciate it. I know I don’t always agree with everyone, but thats part of discussing sports

by 815Sox on Dec 30, 2008 1:51 PM CST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Agreed

I apologize for my earlier statement. I was a wee bit frustrated with the Bears.

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by ChiFan13 on Dec 30, 2008 11:35 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

This defense was mediocre to bad this year

“So their 21st ranking in total yards allowed isn’t a fair assessment in my opinion…”

Fair enough – but even if you give them the factor of playing better than average offenses, this was still a mediocre defense by any other name, IMHO. And as long as we’re discussing potentially unfair comparisons, how do you measure key mental and physical breakdowns at critical moments in games, like Atlanta and TB? No excuses for those, and whether you blame it on coaching or the players themselves, it still adds up to some disgraceful performances.

by Waylon on Dec 30, 2008 3:57 PM CST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

it adds up

to a mostly shitty offense that kept the defense on the field too long, piss-poor blitz schemes, maddening inconsistency, and getting a bit long in the tooth.

But they need save their bullets ($$ and draft picks) for the offense before the defense, that’s for sure. And get a time machine and take back Urlacher’s extension. A couple of new safeties would be nice though…

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by thecubreporter on Dec 30, 2008 5:37 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I really loathe the

“we were on the field too much” stuff.

Seriously. Get a stop and get yourself off the god damn field.

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by halfblindcubbiegirl on Dec 30, 2008 5:49 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Theres a little truth to it

But I agree.

Our offense certainly wasnt any worse this year than in the past at staying on the field.

Used to be it didn’t matter that much to the D if the offense went 3 and out repeatedly. You want to call your self a dominant D then get off the field, or get a turn over and score some points.

An average D can be made to look worse by a shitty offense, but not a great one.

by reprisal on Dec 30, 2008 6:14 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

agree with reprisal

Its more of the offenses fault, but still.

The D wasn’t all that great, the offense made it much worse. They are getting older and don’t have the stamina anymore. Again, hopefully we see some major changes on both sides.

by 815Sox on Dec 30, 2008 9:36 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Don't agree with that at all.

I don’t think the offense is that far away. Get a solid #1 receiver and abandon the fullback dive plus some tweaks (another running back for depth and to rest Forte so we don’t run him into the ground by week 3 next year, etc). A solid receiver on the outside would open up the middle for Olsen/Clark/Forte and give us some explosion.

The defense for all its money is horrid. I’ve never really been a fan of the “cover 2” junk, “oooh, zone defense! how exciting!”… but b/c it’ll be the system as long as Lovie is here, we need wrinkles and a stud D tackle (or 12) to be what everyone thinks Tommie Harris should be.And draft a friggin safety on the first day. Good pieces, but I don’t think Babich/Lovie read the instruction manual. (And I’m on cold medicine. So if I’m not making sense, sorry)

Get me, I'm giving out wings!!

by halfblindcubbiegirl on Dec 30, 2008 10:56 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Agreed

A good D sucks it up and goes out to get the stop – period. These days instead we hear whining about turnovers by the offense and other stuff that happens in almost every game.

by Waylon on Dec 30, 2008 7:32 PM CST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

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