Thoughts on possible picks - rounds 1 through 5

by Cru Jones on Mar 18, 2008 4:17 PM CDT Comment 9 comments

Gosder Cornelius - OT - Boston College (after trading down)
Devin Thomas WR - Michigan State
Chilo Rachal - OG - USC
Keenan Burton - WR - Kentucky
Josh Johnson - QB - San Diego (pick gained from earlier trade)
Kevin Smith - RB - UCF
Frank Morton - DT - Tulane

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Some of these players have a high risk/reward factor (especially Josh Johnson), but I think it's likely we could get these players at these spots. And if they pan out, we could actually fill in quite a few holes on the team - with the possibility of pretty exciting young offense in a few seasons' time without needing a lot of moves in free agency.

Note: These picks are based off of the Bears trading their 1st pick to move down in that round, in exchange for a third rounder. Maybe this is unlikely, but having 3 picks is this year's third round would definitely explain how Angelo seems to think he can seriously upgrade this team with one draft. I've seen a few mocks having them take Felix Jones later in the first, so maybe Dallas could be interested in moving up for Mendenhall instead. Dunno, but it's looks pretty obvious Angelo's looking to move down.

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misspelling

apologies - it's Gosder Cherilus, not Cornelius. Not sure why I typed that.

by Cru Jones on Mar 18, 2008 4:20 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

I didnt even notice it

-leopoldjones

by leopoldjones on Mar 18, 2008 4:41 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

You know...

... you can edit your diaries.

visit the mindful mission.

by big_lowitzki on Mar 20, 2008 8:37 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Need more info

We trade down to where in the first?

We move down in the first and only pick up a third? I'd need numbers of who we are trading with.

Not sure I want a receiver in the 2nd either.

by Adam T on Mar 18, 2008 7:05 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

Yeah, I agree i was a little ambiguous there ...

... but for an idea of seeing who would be available at each pick I decided on a swap with Dallas for a few reasons: I've seen them taking a RB (earlier with the rumors of a trade up for McFadden, and more recently looking at Felix Jones with their 28th pick) on multiple mocks, so the possibility of taking Mendenhall and getting the widely considered second best back instead of the Bears or Lions taking him might be interesting to them.

So with that, we'd move back either to 22, or the more likely 28 spot where Cherilus would make more sense to be selected and we'd take their 3 (the 92nd pick). The idea that we'd get a 3 for moving down was based on a picks value chart from espn.com, where each draft spot has a points ranking that coaches/scouts apparently use to determine trade values of draft picks. A late first rounder and 3rd round equal roughly a mid first rounder from a quick look at that.

Of course, there's probably a bunch of reasons this all wouldn't work if I looked at it harder, but as it seems Angelo's determined to fill holes almost entirely with the draft, I'm just trying to figure out how that could possibly fit together.

And I hear you on the WR in the second - before this offseason, I wasn't too into the idea of taking a wideout either - but now that we're looking at Lloyd, Booker, Hester, Bradley and maybe Davis (if we don't let him go too) as our receiving corps, I'm definitely more open to the idea. I don't support taking a WR with the first pick at all though. And for a RB, I do like Mendenhall, but I think this offseason left us almost no choice but to go OT with our first pick, so I looked at other options on that.

by Cru Jones on Mar 18, 2008 11:10 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Gosder Cherilus

NO offence I dont care for this guy. Has nice size, long arms and came from boston College which is known for their perductive OL. The only pluses that I like is that he played in 37 straight games, and durability is prob his best asset. Also when on the right side BC had 7 100 yd games and he had 10 blocks resulting in TD's. But he only played RT for 3 yrds and transfered to LT his senior year and struggled. had 7 penalties and 4 against Notre Dame alone, this also concerns me. Just incase we need to switch due to injuries. Personally I like Chris Williams(Vanderbuilt). Hes'a know as a finess LT, which is the hardest side to play. Known to have great hips and Awsome footwork and hands. Also I believe he ran the best 40 at the
combine. In 2007 he was named All SouthWestern Conference for LT and Started Lt for 2 yrs with an 84.9% blocking consistancy rating, with only 2 Sacks allowed in 1,558 snaps and 21 TD blocks.
Cherilus is not a bad prospect but i think JA can drop as he usually does and still pick up this guy. But I'm a bum, What do I know? lol

by SuperBowlXX on Mar 19, 2008 2:36 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

definitely

... if it ended up that we could trade down and still get Williams, I'd be all for it

by Cru Jones on Mar 19, 2008 3:54 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Post Script

Really like Devin Thomas. He's 6'2" 215. Ran a 4.40 in the 40 and has a 10'6" Broad Jump which is McFadden like (10'8"). He's a physical reciever who can make mismatches with his size and has the ability to gain alot of YAC yds with his open field speed. We need this cat in a Bears Uniform . It's all good though mabye we suck so bad we might be able to draft Tim Tebow. Just Joking

by SuperBowlXX on Mar 19, 2008 2:59 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

My only issues....

are taking two WR within the first 3 rounds, even if we have 5 picks. If we are going to have 3 3rd rounders (and I do like the idea of trading down for an extra pick) I'd rather look at S or possible DT depth at that point.

Also... I want nothing to do with Josh Johnson in the 3rd... especially when you can take the same gamble (effectively) on Dennis Dixon in the 5th or 6th round or make a safer choice at QB in the 3rd with Henne.

They pull a knife, you pull a gun. He sends one of yours to the hospital, you send one of his to the morgue. *That's* the *Chicago* way!

by 2ndcitydiehard on Mar 19, 2008 6:45 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs