Chad Johnson To The Bears V.2.0

by Adam T on Apr 18, 2008 7:42 AM CDT in News Comment 22 comments

So apparently Chad Johnson doesn't want to play for the Bengals any longer. The Bengals have no plans on giving him up, so this should be a no story, but as it were the Bears don't have a #1 receiver, so connect the dots and rumors can be born. David Haugh decided to jump the gun and beat the rumors, but telling us why bringing in Johnson is a bad idea.

The thought of Johnson forcing a trade that lands Ocho Cinco in Chicago, an idea floating around talk radio and cyberspace again Thursday, is muy loco.

Crazy in any language, that is. Any possible X and O improvements because of Johnson wouldn't translate automatically into more W's than L's either.

A team supposedly recommitting to running the football doesn't accomplish that by getting a player obsessed with having it passed to him. Teams rebuilding, as the Bears clearly are, need to think about 2009 as much as 2008. Johnson thinks mostly of payday.

It really is simple, the Bears don't have the passing game to sustain an ego like Johnson. He will not be happy with 5 catches for 65 yards each game. Soon he will be on TV talking about our QBs and that is the last think Grossman or Orton need right now.

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rebuilding?

I can understand with the current state of our offense why it might seem plausible that the bears are rebuilding, but i disagree with haugh.
Other than loosing a few veterans, the majority of this team is still intact....in all 3 phases. But I think everyone would agree those moves benefited the team, meaning this team needs an infusion of young talent.

I think this open qb competition, wr depth and relative inactivty in free agency have confused everyone to thinking the bears are rebuilding. However I think any true bears fan knows that the qb competition in all likelihood is not as open as they say and if angelo/smith felt they had no other option,could have paid berrian his quota.
Like Mel Kiper said, this team can contend this season with a good draft.
although i just heard about this urlacher problem and now im nervous. he wants to retire, get trade or a new contract.

by rahulsriram on Apr 18, 2008 8:11 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs

rebuilding

the only thing thing this team has is a defense and st, which is great but we literally have no offense. it would take an amazing draft to make us serious, win the super bowl competitors so i don't know how it is anything but a building year. it may not be year 1 of a 5 year rebuilding effort, but we are rebuilding.

"Kyle Orton and Jack Daniel's could be the greatest songwriting duo since Rodgers and Hammerstein." - DJ Gallo

by mike b on Apr 18, 2008 9:26 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

What exactly

are we rebuilding? Our offense in '06 was the product of our great defense. Ranked in yards, we've had a top 10 offense 4 times in the past 20 years. In '06 it was 15th. In terms of points, we've had a top 10 offense...4 times in the past 20 years.

We have not had a consistenly good offense on the field since the greatest running back ever was in his prime.

What are we rebuilding on offense? To REbuild, you have to have once built something.

"The only thing this team has is a defense and ST".

That is one more thing than we've had for 20+ years.

Excuse me for liking my odds this season a bit better than my odds in any given year between 1990 and 2005 (let's call them the "pre-Hester" years).

by mikebdot on Apr 18, 2008 10:05 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

we have no running game

and no passing game.

build it, rebuild it whatever, this an offensively pathetic team.

"Kyle Orton and Jack Daniel's could be the greatest songwriting duo since Rodgers and Hammerstein." - DJ Gallo

by mike b on Apr 18, 2008 10:22 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

how many times

last year did we get the ball on the 35 and do nothing with it?

think anybody will kick to hester when they know we can't move the ball anyway?

i got bitched at months ago by leopold for saying we haven't built anything in a decade, so whatever people want to call it, horrible offense plus devin hester won't do enough.

"Kyle Orton and Jack Daniel's could be the greatest songwriting duo since Rodgers and Hammerstein." - DJ Gallo

by mike b on Apr 18, 2008 10:28 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

and you deserved it

anyone who thinks we are rebuilding obviously doesn't understand what the phrase refers to. When you rebuild you scrap everything and make gigantic changes (miami, atlanta). we on the other hand have a crappy offense which we are trying to fix, we are good on special teams and defense and are not changing that at all, in fact we are trying to sign players to longer contracts to keep the defense the same. just because you change one aspect of the team doesnt mean you are rebuilding, for example two years ago the seahawks had and awful secondary, they made some big changes and made it better they didnt change the offense cause the offense was working. we are not rebuilding we are trying fix our offense there is a huge difference.

-leopoldjones

by leopoldjones on Apr 18, 2008 3:06 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

not really

you rebuild to different degrees.

"Kyle Orton and Jack Daniel's could be the greatest songwriting duo since Rodgers and Hammerstein." - DJ Gallo

by mike b on Apr 18, 2008 3:16 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

ok so

when the browns got shaun rogers were they rebulding there nt position, no they say a guy they wanted and perhaps needed and went out and got him

-leopoldjones

by leopoldjones on Apr 18, 2008 4:34 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

i may understand that

i think but who knows.

you want to go player by player and team by team through the nfl?

"Kyle Orton and Jack Daniel's could be the greatest songwriting duo since Rodgers and Hammerstein." - DJ Gallo

by mike b on Apr 18, 2008 4:46 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

its just an example

I'm just saying, you can change your players without necessarily rebuilding.

-leopoldjones

by leopoldjones on Apr 18, 2008 8:27 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

upgrade, rebuild whatever

but if you go from good-bad-good at some part of your team through personell changes you did something.

not sure why you guys are terrified of the word rebuild.

"Kyle Orton and Jack Daniel's could be the greatest songwriting duo since Rodgers and Hammerstein." - DJ Gallo

by mike b on Apr 20, 2008 7:02 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

This is how we get an offense...

a.) Draft Rashard Mendenhall
b.) Sign Chad Johnson
c.) Trade for Joe Flacco

by Vangelis on Apr 18, 2008 12:47 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

did you catch our

o line play at all last year?

"Kyle Orton and Jack Daniel's could be the greatest songwriting duo since Rodgers and Hammerstein." - DJ Gallo

by mike b on Apr 18, 2008 1:27 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

who cares

mendenhall, ocho and flacco would be a huge suprising upgrade on offense and we could sign a tackle later in the 3rd, I mean its ridiculous to think this is a rebuilding year, we're a few pieces away from being a major contender again. I mean look at the Sox, alot of people think theyre alot away from being a contender and they get Linebrink, Cabrera and Swisher and now we're that much better from the year before. If we can get another back and a tackle I KNOW we're back in it.

by DaNate23 on Apr 20, 2008 12:13 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

don't give a shit about the sox

especially after a couple weeks of the season. and you know, it's a completely different sport.

what tackle in the third will be good enough to start and make a major impact day one? find him and yeah, no shit we'll be better. hope to hell that guy exists.

mendenhall and flacco won't do shit if they're getting hit in the backfield every play.

"Kyle Orton and Jack Daniel's could be the greatest songwriting duo since Rodgers and Hammerstein." - DJ Gallo

by mike b on Apr 20, 2008 6:59 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

and that the 27th time

you said mendenhall and flacco wont do well behind a bad oline, when are you gonna go for number 28?

-leopoldjones

by leopoldjones on Apr 20, 2008 7:19 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

well mongoloid

didn't think you could count to 27.

"Kyle Orton and Jack Daniel's could be the greatest songwriting duo since Rodgers and Hammerstein." - DJ Gallo

by mike b on Apr 20, 2008 8:31 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

It's his own da** fault.....

for taking the long term contract. I can't recall if he demanded a long term or not, but a lot of the players insist on it when they are actually shooting themselves in the foot. Better for them to take about a two year contract then hit free agency again because the market increases so rapidly, causing a long term contract to under pay the player towards the end of it. He needs to get over it, he's not going anywhere because that means he won't get paid at all if he is deemed fit to play and retires.

by rob in iraq on Apr 18, 2008 8:50 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs

LOL

I think you posted this in the wrong thread. Who cares, it's Friday.

GO BEARS!!!!!

by McRipper on Apr 18, 2008 8:56 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Thanks!

But I was responding to the entry that mentioned Urlacher's contract dispute even though it is a Chad Johnson thread. I didn't select the reply thread so my response is going to get pushed farther down so it will look like I was on the wrong thread. Anyways, have a nice weekend, every day is Monday here in Iraq.

by rob in iraq on Apr 18, 2008 9:36 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs