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2008 NFL Draft - Day 2, Part 1

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2008 NFL Draft- Bears Selections
Round Pick Player Pos. College
1 14 Chris Williams OT Vaderbilt
2 44 Matt Forte RB Tulane
3 70 Earl Bennett WR Vanderbilt
3 90 Marcus Harrison DT Arkansas
4 120 Craig Steltz S LSU
5 142 Zack Bowman CB Nebraska
5 158 -- -- --
7 208 -- -- --
7 222 -- -- --
7 243 -- -- --
7 247 -- -- --
7 248 -- -- --

Star-divide

Heading into Day 2 the Bears have two big picks in the 3rd round. They really have a chance to change the shape of this offense. My guess is that they address wide receiver with one of them. The next batch of receivers are:

Mario Manningham, Michigan
Andre Caldwell, Florida
Early Doucet, LSU


The other pick might not be so easy to predict. The Bears could use it to look at QB with John David Booty or Dennis Dixon if they like any of them. If instead they decide to not draft a QB or go after San Diego St. QB Kevin O'Connell in a later round maybe the Bears use their first pick on defense and go with a guy like Tom Zbikowski, a safety out of Notre Dame that most Bears fans seem to have a crush on.

They could also look to bolster their defensive tackle postion with guys like Andre Fluellen from Florida St or Pat Sims out of Auburn.

After that the Bears have one pick in each the 4th, 5th and 6th, but have 4 7th round picks. I'd really like the Bears to use their wealth of picks and start moving around and fill out some areas of need.

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Not Zib in the 3rd......

need WR too bad….....Haruki Nakamura in the 7th.

by SuperBowlXX on Apr 27, 2008 4:31 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

They moved up 2 places

so they were already in front of us.

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by Adam T on Apr 27, 2008 9:05 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Kevin Smtih

over Charles?

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by Adam T on Apr 27, 2008 9:06 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

I know they want to be able to break it

but doesn’t it take away from the draft to announce the pick before it is oficially announced?

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by Adam T on Apr 27, 2008 9:08 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Yeah

It’s pretty anticlimactic.

by Doctor Chicago on Apr 27, 2008 9:11 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

We're on deck

Andre Caldwell coming up. Or Earl Bennett. Or Jeremy Zuttah.

by Doctor Chicago on Apr 27, 2008 9:19 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

I still don't get the Forte pick.

RB mattered, but why waste a pick so high?

"I've got a class (coming in) here, we've got a chance to do some things." --Tom Izzo on why he might not consider the Bulls coaching vacancy.

by tyger1147 on Apr 27, 2008 9:24 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Why do they always show the bad first?

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by Adam T on Apr 27, 2008 9:24 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

I know I'm not going to like this pick.

"I've got a class (coming in) here, we've got a chance to do some things." --Tom Izzo on why he might not consider the Bulls coaching vacancy.

by tyger1147 on Apr 27, 2008 9:25 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Two Vandy guys

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by Adam T on Apr 27, 2008 9:25 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Stop with the caps lock, jerk. It's making it harder for others...

...to read in the quick flow this is supposed to work.

"I've got a class (coming in) here, we've got a chance to do some things." --Tom Izzo on why he might not consider the Bulls coaching vacancy.

by tyger1147 on Apr 27, 2008 9:27 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Nice

Bennett is going to be very good, could get some starts this year. Only problem is he’s kind of short.

by Doctor Chicago on Apr 27, 2008 9:27 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Man, I'd be loving this draft if they had Brohm right now.

Forte will probably be good, but seriously… RB in the second? It’s not practical when a team needs a damned quarterback. Ugh.

"I've got a class (coming in) here, we've got a chance to do some things." --Tom Izzo on why he might not consider the Bulls coaching vacancy.

by tyger1147 on Apr 27, 2008 9:28 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Who do you have more faith in

Orton/Grossman or Benson? Brohm wasn’t going to play this year anyway, Forte will and he’ll do well.

by Doctor Chicago on Apr 27, 2008 9:29 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

For this year? Neither.

Orton and Grossman are pathetic. So is Benson. I have more faith in finding a serviceable RB than a serviceable QB.

"I've got a class (coming in) here, we've got a chance to do some things." --Tom Izzo on why he might not consider the Bulls coaching vacancy.

by tyger1147 on Apr 27, 2008 9:31 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

How many games

has Orton lost for us?

by Doctor Chicago on Apr 27, 2008 9:35 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

How many has he won?

When the rest of the team was great and they were playing shitty teams, he’s fine. Is he good enough to win a playoff game if the rest of the team isn’t 100% and firing on all cylinders?

"I've got a class (coming in) here, we've got a chance to do some things." --Tom Izzo on why he might not consider the Bulls coaching vacancy.

by tyger1147 on Apr 27, 2008 9:36 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Well yeah, he's not Tom Brady

who does when when the rest of the team doesn’t fire on all cylinders? I’m not saying he’s our savior or anything but I don’t think he’s terrible.

by Doctor Chicago on Apr 27, 2008 9:40 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Wow, nice hyperbole.

Hey man, he’s not Tom Brady, but no one is, so that means he’s still good!

Gimme a break. I’d just like him to be a Top-25 QB, and he’s definitely not that. Can you really argue that he is?

"I've got a class (coming in) here, we've got a chance to do some things." --Tom Izzo on why he might not consider the Bulls coaching vacancy.

by tyger1147 on Apr 27, 2008 9:42 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I don't think you get my point.

He isn’t going to win games by himself, but he’s not going to imlode either. And he hasn’t been the starter long enough to be a top 25 QB.

by Doctor Chicago on Apr 27, 2008 9:46 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

No, I get the point.

And it’s irrelevant because he won’t be the QB of the future. (and yes, you could at least project that he’d be one of the 25 best QB’s, the fact that we can’t, says a lot) Barring a miracle, neither Orton nor Grossman will be leading this team beyond 2009. Neither will Benson, of course. But as I’ve repeatedly pointed out (and you seem to be missing this point), average to better-than-average RB’s are a lot easier to find than average to better-than-average QB’s.

In 2010, when Forte is rushing for 900 yards and five TD’s, there will be about five RB’s drafted after him or were FA’s that are doing just as well. Meanwhile, Brohm will be coming into his own while Andre Woodson continue to pick his nose and Josh McCown is leading this team at QB.

"I've got a class (coming in) here, we've got a chance to do some things." --Tom Izzo on why he might not consider the Bulls coaching vacancy.

by tyger1147 on Apr 27, 2008 10:01 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

If they end up with Woodson, I won't cry.

But if it’s Booty, I just might.

My ideal draft (what I showed a week ago):
Williams
Brohm
Charles
Caldwell/Doucet

An acceptable, and possible, draft:
Williams
Forte
Bennet
Woodson

A shitty draft:
Williams
Forte
Bennet
Booty

Seriously, RB’s can be found ANYWHERE!!! How much of a wasted pick was Brandon Jackson for the Packers? Where was Frank Gore drafted? How many extra RB’s does Oakland have? The NY Giants had (arguably) the best ground game in the league and how many did they draft early? What about Denver?

Seriously, if there’s one position that “grows on trees”, it’s RB’s.

"I've got a class (coming in) here, we've got a chance to do some things." --Tom Izzo on why he might not consider the Bulls coaching vacancy.

by tyger1147 on Apr 27, 2008 9:41 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

It's harder to scan the comments.

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by tyger1147 on Apr 27, 2008 9:29 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

At 90

I’m thinking Zuttah or a QB.

by Doctor Chicago on Apr 27, 2008 9:31 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Two line men

in 4 picks? Thats how you fix a line.

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by Adam T on Apr 27, 2008 9:33 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Why do they insist

on putting Mortensen on live TV? Every time I see him he is stumbling over his words. If he can’t talk well don’t put him on.

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by Adam T on Apr 27, 2008 9:31 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

He seems like he just woke up.

And I love how ESPN keeps having rountable discussions about yesterday’s picks and NFLN is talking about, you know, what’s happening now.

by Doctor Chicago on Apr 27, 2008 9:36 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Okay, so I'm going to have to call someone out....

...who was it that said Doucet and Caldwell wouldn’t be available in the third?

ANSON! Oh yeah, good call on that ass-face!

"I've got a class (coming in) here, we've got a chance to do some things." --Tom Izzo on why he might not consider the Bulls coaching vacancy.

by tyger1147 on Apr 27, 2008 9:33 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

We need to draft somebody

who is rocked up!

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by Adam T on Apr 27, 2008 9:35 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

We need

a guy who really knows how to flip his hips.

by Doctor Chicago on Apr 27, 2008 9:36 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Anybody know about this guy?

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by Twins Territory on Apr 27, 2008 9:36 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Cheifs need to pick a punter

just so we can stop hearing how great their draft is.

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by Adam T on Apr 27, 2008 9:38 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

They interviewed Herm

like 5 times yesterday.

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by Adam T on Apr 27, 2008 9:39 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

f the chiefs

they have at tv show on nfl network about training camp so it serves their interests to trade a star for a rookies to compete on the NFL network in training camp….

by 234L on Apr 27, 2008 10:00 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Rivals.com
The Good: Bennett separates well in coverage and has reliable hands. He has enough speed to go deep and gain extra yards after the catch. He was a consistent playmaker throughout his college career. Bennett has good cutting ability, which allows him to separate well from defenders.

The Bad: Bennett still needs to refine his route running and defense recognition. He must improve his overall strength to take the pounding he will receive in the NFL, especially when going across the middle of the field.

Outlook: Bennett should immediately work his way into three- and four-wideout sets, even if he’s not a starter. He has huge upside and could be a steal in the second round. This hidden gem probably has as much upside as any receiver in this class.

by Doctor Chicago on Apr 27, 2008 9:39 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Steal in the second? How about the third!

"Don't take anything for granted, because tomorrow is not promised to any of us."

by Twins Territory on Apr 27, 2008 9:40 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I like how

the bad really isn’t that bad, since coaching will change all that.

by Doctor Chicago on Apr 27, 2008 9:41 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Well...

our second two picks have sites it looks like:

Matt Forte – MattForte25.com
Earl Bennett – MyNameIsEarlBennett.com

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by Twins Territory on Apr 27, 2008 9:39 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Those sites are for them and have videos and stuff…

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by Twins Territory on Apr 27, 2008 9:41 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Oh, he's 6'1"?

My bad, I could have sworn I read he was 5’9”. This pick just gets better and better.

Kind of a mushmouth, though….

by Doctor Chicago on Apr 27, 2008 9:42 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I think the pats are afraid to make picks

and ruin their rep, so they make only 2 a draft and just keep trading back from year to year. In 2020 they are going to have 75 picks.

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by Adam T on Apr 27, 2008 9:42 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

So is a QB going to be our next pick?

"Don't take anything for granted, because tomorrow is not promised to any of us."

by Twins Territory on Apr 27, 2008 9:44 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

I'd say no

but what do I know?

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by Adam T on Apr 27, 2008 9:45 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

it would surprise me

at this point it would be late, if at all…...

by SuperBowlXX on Apr 27, 2008 9:45 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Manningham or Bennett?

"Don't take anything for granted, because tomorrow is not promised to any of us."

by Twins Territory on Apr 27, 2008 9:46 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Oh god

Manningham is a nightmare.

by Doctor Chicago on Apr 27, 2008 9:47 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Here he is:

FULL SIZE

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by Twins Territory on Apr 27, 2008 9:50 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Wow that was fast

Look at those steely eyes, he means business!

by Doctor Chicago on Apr 27, 2008 9:51 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yeah

"Don't take anything for granted, because tomorrow is not promised to any of us."

by Twins Territory on Apr 27, 2008 9:52 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Wow

Realli got a little hosting gig.

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by Adam T on Apr 27, 2008 9:51 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

There goes Early Doucet. He was supposed to be an earlier pick…

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by Twins Territory on Apr 27, 2008 9:54 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

LOL

“flipps his hips”

by SuperBowlXX on Apr 27, 2008 9:55 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

mayockism

mushroom top:

When a line men is so huge their belly hang over their pants.

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by Adam T on Apr 27, 2008 9:56 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Well Boys...

I just woke up and from what I gather from your comments…we flipped picks and took this Vandy receiver who none of us have heard but his scouting report isn’t too bad? I guess I am OK with that. Almost sounds like Berrian coming out of college; fast, a little unpolished and not quite as muscular as you want…

by GallopingGhost on Apr 27, 2008 9:58 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Anyone know

why Doucet took such a tumble?

by Doctor Chicago on Apr 27, 2008 9:59 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Not I

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by Adam T on Apr 27, 2008 10:01 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

As long as we pick the

positions we really need, I’d be ok with anybody.

Down in the 4th I don’t know enough about the players to know if it was a good pick.

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by Adam T on Apr 27, 2008 10:00 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

So do we all want a QB at 90?

Or would you guys rather see a safety or a DT?

by GallopingGhost on Apr 27, 2008 10:01 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

I really don’t know. I’m thinking a QB…

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by Twins Territory on Apr 27, 2008 10:02 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I don't see a QB at 90

another line men, S maybe DT.

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by Adam T on Apr 27, 2008 10:02 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I'm thinking

they’ll go for DT here, maybe Andre Fluellen, and then QB next round.

by Doctor Chicago on Apr 27, 2008 10:03 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

yeah

I marked him to look at today.

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by Adam T on Apr 27, 2008 10:04 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Would you be surprised if the Bears took Woodson? They were said to be high on him a few months ago.

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by Twins Territory on Apr 27, 2008 10:01 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

A lot seemed to change in a few months...

he went from the first round to day 2 with a poor senior bowl. I don’t know if I want him on the Bears, he seems almost too raw, too unpolished and with no vet to guide him, that might be bad. The rawest guy I’d want is Kevin O’Connell or Josh Johnson.

by GallopingGhost on Apr 27, 2008 10:04 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

chiefs

just casting for their show on nfl network

by 234L on Apr 27, 2008 10:02 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Crap

Bucs took Zuttah.

by Doctor Chicago on Apr 27, 2008 10:02 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

QB PLEASE

Woodson would be nice… anybody would be nice.

by 234L on Apr 27, 2008 10:03 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

What would you all think about

Justin King. Always can use another CB.

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by Adam T on Apr 27, 2008 10:03 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Not a priority

especially with McBride playing well.

by Doctor Chicago on Apr 27, 2008 10:04 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Sure

but as you get farther down it might be a best athlete available situation.

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by Adam T on Apr 27, 2008 10:05 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

You know

I really didn’t like Woodson when they talked about him as our first rounder. At 90 however, it doesn’t seem like a bad pick at all.

"Don't take anything for granted, because tomorrow is not promised to any of us."

by Twins Territory on Apr 27, 2008 10:04 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

That's how I feel

good potential at this spot.

by Doctor Chicago on Apr 27, 2008 10:05 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I think though

that they’ll be content to take whoever is the highest QB on their board in round 4.

by Doctor Chicago on Apr 27, 2008 10:06 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

We are going to talk to Del Rio again?

Can we get JA on screen?

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by Adam T on Apr 27, 2008 10:06 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Yep...

"Don't take anything for granted, because tomorrow is not promised to any of us."

by Twins Territory on Apr 27, 2008 10:07 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Thank god

I didn’t like him at all.

by Doctor Chicago on Apr 27, 2008 10:07 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Didn't you pick

him in your draft scenario?

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by Adam T on Apr 27, 2008 10:08 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

No

that was Jamie Silva.

by Doctor Chicago on Apr 27, 2008 10:10 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Personally

I thought he could have fit well with the Bears but he need some coaching. Plus I did get nervous when his scouting report said compares to “Adam Archuleta” that made me kind of shy away from him.

by GallopingGhost on Apr 27, 2008 10:09 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Top 10 QB

John David Booty
Andre Woodson
Erik Ainge
Kevin O Connell
Josh Johnson
Matt Flynn
Dennis Dixon
Colt Brennan
Paul Smith
Kyle Wright

According to ESPN…

"Don't take anything for granted, because tomorrow is not promised to any of us."

by Twins Territory on Apr 27, 2008 10:08 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

I know the Doc

is high on O’Connell.

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by Adam T on Apr 27, 2008 10:10 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Love him

does he have a web site? Although if Woodson is still there next round, it’s a tough call.

by Doctor Chicago on Apr 27, 2008 10:11 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Why

did Woodson drop from the 1st to 4th? Was it all because he couldn’t work out?

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by Adam T on Apr 27, 2008 10:12 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Only if you throw

in all caps:)

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by Adam T on Apr 27, 2008 10:10 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Ainge

is interesting because we haven’t heard him much…

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by Twins Territory on Apr 27, 2008 10:11 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Didn't he have arm strength issues?

He and Booty had issues with being accurate once going down the field.

by GallopingGhost on Apr 27, 2008 10:12 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Alright

we are almost up again. make the call

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by Adam T on Apr 27, 2008 10:11 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

NEVER MIND

Lions took him. Ummm, now I don’t know….

by Doctor Chicago on Apr 27, 2008 10:13 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

We still have 8 more picks today!

"Don't take anything for granted, because tomorrow is not promised to any of us."

by Twins Territory on Apr 27, 2008 10:11 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Booty

jersey might sell.

by 234L on Apr 27, 2008 10:12 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Millions of fans

with Booty on their back. Fantastic!

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by Adam T on Apr 27, 2008 10:13 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

vandee

does vandee have a qb in this draft …. shiiiiiiit

by 234L on Apr 27, 2008 10:13 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

For 90

I am going to call a position rather than player: QB. It’s time. I think we do that and as fans we can consider it a safe, conservative solid draft to this point.

by GallopingGhost on Apr 27, 2008 10:14 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Kevin O' Connell

Strenght and Weaknesses

And this:

Compares To: MATT CASSEL-New England…O’Connell is a more mobile passer, but like Cassel, he is going to need time and patient coaching to add technique and mechanical refinement. He is a rare-sized athlete with great mobility in the pocket, but his delivery is a mess and his footwork leaves a lot to be desired. He forces a lot of throws and needs generate better touch on his short-area throws and improve the zip on his deep passes. If a team preaches patience and has an established veteran in place to allow O’Connell several years to develop, he could be a good one. Rushing him, however, might render any pick used on O’Connell a wasted selection.

"Don't take anything for granted, because tomorrow is not promised to any of us."

by Twins Territory on Apr 27, 2008 10:14 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Well we have

orton for two years. Is that enough?

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by Adam T on Apr 27, 2008 10:15 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I forgot about Slaton…

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by Twins Territory on Apr 27, 2008 10:15 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Top 10

Marcus Harrison DT ARKANSAS
Justin King CB PENN STATE
Mario Manningham WR MICHIGAN
Anthony Collins OT KANSAS
Cliff Avril DE PURDUE
Tyvon Branch CB UCONN
Oniel Cousins OG UTEP
Andre Caldwell WR FLORIDA
John David Booty QB USC
Erin Henderson OLB MARYLAND

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by Twins Territory on Apr 27, 2008 10:16 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I called him in SBN draft

it be nice to see him a round later.

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by Adam T on Apr 27, 2008 10:17 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I think

it is Justin King.

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by Adam T on Apr 27, 2008 10:16 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Marcus Harrision (DT)?

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by Twins Territory on Apr 27, 2008 10:16 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

CALLED IT!

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by Twins Territory on Apr 27, 2008 10:18 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

40 seconds

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by Twins Territory on Apr 27, 2008 10:17 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

going collins

should go booty

by 234L on Apr 27, 2008 10:18 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Well, he was number one available on Kiper’s list.

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by Twins Territory on Apr 27, 2008 10:19 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Marcus Harrison

"Don't take anything for granted, because tomorrow is not promised to any of us."

by Twins Territory on Apr 27, 2008 10:18 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Theres the DT

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by Adam T on Apr 27, 2008 10:19 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

I think they’ll take a QB in the fourth. It isn’t like more than one will be taken…

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by Twins Territory on Apr 27, 2008 10:20 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Never heard of him

Do we have any info on him…

by GallopingGhost on Apr 27, 2008 10:20 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

OHHH

Another glass DT.

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by Adam T on Apr 27, 2008 10:21 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Negatives

Negatives: Has had left knee injuries that warrant further medical evaluation…His 2007 summer arrest needs to be resolved before a team can invest a draft pick in him…Did a good job rehabilitating from his 2007 knee injury, but the former coaching staff felt that he needed to be monitored, as he rarely pushed himself in the training room and was a problem at times in the locker room (the staff questioned his toughness, as he would not give full effort when hurt and while trying to become a leader, he failed to live by example and spent more time yelling at teammates rather than mentoring them)...Will get into a rhythm on the field where he would just go through the motions for long stretches and the staff felt that he was getting complacent, lacking the fire in his belly to play until the whistle…Has stiff hips that cause him to look sluggish working his way down the line…Needs to learn how to sink his pads and keep his back low, as he narrows his base and gets pushed off the line of scrimmage often, when he gets too tall coming off the snap…Lacks an array of pass-rush moves and, while naturally strong, he does not extend his hands or generate a powerful punch that is needed to keep blockers off his feet…His tall stance and “short arm” tactics leave him exposed to cut blocks and double teams give him problems, as he does not anchor well, nor use his hands effectively to shed…Needs a clear path to the quarterback, as he does not have the speed or agility to generate a long chase…Marginal bull rusher with very poor rip and club moves, and can be stonewalled by a strong hand placement from an offensive lineman, as he fails to maintain leverage…Has marginal lower-body strength to gain position and hold his ground firmly…Has had problems with the snap cadence and can be drawn offside…Must also be more alert to blocking schemes and does not show the vision to quickly locate the ball in a crowd…Too rigid in his hips to execute a spin move to play off blocks and will throttle down when not involved in the action…Must show renewed desire and effort in his play.

"Don't take anything for granted, because tomorrow is not promised to any of us."

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Positives

Positives: Has a thick chest, big back and wide waist and hips…More of a two-gap type who needs to play with better consistency, as he showed in the past that he is capable of defeating blocks and clogging rush lanes…Marginal pass rusher, but does have enough speed to move along and make plays at the line of scrimmage…Shows adequate quickness and agility coming out of his stance, but only when he keeps his pad level down (tends to get tall in his stance)...When he shows desire, he is effective at shooting his hands to gain separation in attempts to shed blocks (but short-arms too often, allowing double teams to wash him out)...Has the functional feet and balance to make plays outside the box (former defensive end)...When he stays low in his stance and keeps his hands inside his frame, he is able to maintain position vs. a blocker right over his head…When he does a good job in reading and recognizing the play, he is effective at getting into position to make the play (consistency is lacking)...Has better power playing the two-gap than on the move…When he keeps his hands active, he can get off blocks quicker…Good collision-type tackler with the ideal reach to latch on and drag ballcarriers down…Hits with a thud and can clog rush lanes and push the lead blocker back with his initial low step off the snap…Has limitations reading schemes up front, but when he locates the ball, he is quick to close…Does not do it often, but when he uses his hands to disengage, he is capable of creating a new line of scrimmage…Has the frame to carry more bulk without having it affect his speed…When he finds the screens, he takes good angles to close.

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by Twins Territory on Apr 27, 2008 10:21 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Quote of the Day?

“You don’t do Jim Harbaugh, you take Trent Dilfer, that’s why they are the laughing stock of the league.” – Mel Kiper Jr. 1994 draft

by GallopingGhost on Apr 27, 2008 10:21 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Murphy: Harrison has a great deal of ability, but has been hampered by injuries and off-field issues. He is very quick for his size and can be hard to block 1-on-1. He offers them some protection behind Tommie Harris and Dusty Dvoracek, both who have battled injuries themselves the past few years.

by Doctor Chicago on Apr 27, 2008 10:22 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

The good: Harrison is a strong tackle who can be a force in the middle. He has an explosive burst to go along with his functional strength and quickness. His footwork helps allow him to make a difference both against the run and the pass.

The bad: He needs to be more consistent with his hand punch. There are some questions about his ability to stay healthy, particularly against the rigors of the demanding NFL schedule.

Outlook: This tough, athletic tackle has the ability to make an impact at the NFL level if healthy. With proper coaching, the sky is the limit for Harrison. He’s a top 75 prospect with clubs like the Panthers, Lions and Buccaneers all looking.

by Doctor Chicago on Apr 27, 2008 10:23 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

20 picks

until we go again. I think it’s safe to say that Woodson or Booty will be there if the Bears want them…

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by Twins Territory on Apr 27, 2008 10:23 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

I guess the reason I don't like this is...

...they’ve taken a surer thing at RB and will have to take a bigger risk on a QB. In my world, I’d rather it be the other way.

But it does make sense because about the third thing Lovie said was “Well, when we checked the off-the-field stuff…” This organization is just like the Bulls: Screw players, we want character guys.

"I've got a class (coming in) here, we've got a chance to do some things." --Tom Izzo on why he might not consider the Bulls coaching vacancy.

by tyger1147 on Apr 27, 2008 10:25 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

EDIT: They just took Tank Johnson in Round 3.

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by tyger1147 on Apr 27, 2008 10:26 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Why did he have to re nickname Harrison Tank?

Power Pig is a much better name for a Razor back.

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by Adam T on Apr 27, 2008 10:27 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Yeah, not really liking

the Harrison pick too much. But we’ll see how he pans out. We definitely needed DT depth, but he doesn’t seem like he fits our style and he’s injury prone.

by Doctor Chicago on Apr 27, 2008 10:27 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

On Williams Injury:
Williams and the Bears refuted a report on NFL Network Saturday morning that indicated the offensive tackle has a neck problem. Williams said he hasn’t had any neck issues since sustaining a routine stinger in 2005.

"He’s fine," said general manager Jerry Angelo. "At the Combine we checked him once, twice and a third time and we feel very good about his medical as well, so there really isn’t any issue in our minds. All these players have a little wear and tear to them, particularly when they play their whole career in college. But we’re fine on that end as well."

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by Twins Territory on Apr 27, 2008 10:27 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

His neck didn't seem to bother him

when he allowed TWO (2) sacks over two seasons.

by Doctor Chicago on Apr 27, 2008 10:28 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

ha

All that Manningham talk and the Colts take a LB

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by Adam T on Apr 27, 2008 10:30 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Come On

more friggin Cheifs talk.c

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by Adam T on Apr 27, 2008 10:31 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

No kidding

we get it, they’re having a good draft. That tends to happen when you’re awful for several years.

by Doctor Chicago on Apr 27, 2008 10:34 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

There goes O'Connell

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NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

by Doctor Chicago on Apr 27, 2008 10:36 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

The Patriots take him?

Maybe they liked that he was compared to their other backup.

by Doctor Chicago on Apr 27, 2008 10:37 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

It's only right..

They comparted him to Castle, the Pats other backup…

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by Twins Territory on Apr 27, 2008 10:46 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

if he is good

then i like him… a lot of faith is being put in Dusty DV right now. Urlacher likes him, but dudes gotta play before we can feel comfortable there. all Urlacher needs (especially with Harris ) is a big a guy like Gilbert Brown. If this guy can eat up space and make teams pay for doubling harris i’m good with this pick. still need a qb …

by 234L on Apr 27, 2008 10:35 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Pittsburgh

has had the luckiest draft so far.

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by Adam T on Apr 27, 2008 10:36 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

The Bears could have.

Honestly, if I told you Williams, Brohm, Charles and Andre Caldwell, we’d all be giddy as shit. Well, most of us…

"I've got a class (coming in) here, we've got a chance to do some things." --Tom Izzo on why he might not consider the Bulls coaching vacancy.

by tyger1147 on Apr 27, 2008 10:38 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

if caldwell's still there in the 4th

do we take him? i feel like we should go after the best guard or safety without reaching.

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by guy incognito on Apr 27, 2008 10:42 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Oconnell

just saw clips of him on nfl network and i’m pissed we didnt get him

by 234L on Apr 27, 2008 10:40 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

No kidding

Oh well, maybe we can trade for him after he studies behing Brady for 2 years.

by Doctor Chicago on Apr 27, 2008 10:41 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Manningham goes to the Giants

great, now I get to hear about is off-the-field-issues in the news for the next 6 years…..

by Doctor Chicago on Apr 27, 2008 10:40 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

OK NFLN

is beginning to feel like PFT.

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by Adam T on Apr 27, 2008 10:43 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Sprint Pimps

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by Adam T on Apr 27, 2008 10:45 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Just wait

until you get a sponsorship from Pizzeria Uno or something.

by Doctor Chicago on Apr 27, 2008 10:46 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I am a pizza whore

i’ll pimp them now.

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by Adam T on Apr 27, 2008 10:47 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Chris WIlliams was a great pick

You know what else is a great pick? The new 7-cheese pizza from Uno!

by Doctor Chicago on Apr 27, 2008 10:48 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Bennett was a great pick deep in the draft

you know what else is good deep….Our new pepperoni and italian sausage deep dish.

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by Adam T on Apr 27, 2008 10:50 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Hahaha

See how easy it is? It flows in with the football info so well.

by Doctor Chicago on Apr 27, 2008 10:51 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Marcus Harrison has some injury concerns

He’s in danger of snapping like a stick. Just like Uno’s new Cheesy Crunch Breadsticks.

by Doctor Chicago on Apr 27, 2008 10:53 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

manningham tested positive for weed

why not step it up with some ice cold Coke?

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by Adam T on Apr 27, 2008 10:55 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Bengals took Caldwell

wonder if that means they have CJ on the way out.

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by Adam T on Apr 27, 2008 10:44 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

unless they come down in their demands, no

i think chad’s a great WR, but he’s definitely got some baggage and some wear and tear. and given the market for players, to turn down a #1 and #3 from washington for him is crazy. that was a huge haul and i honestly don’t think they have any interest in trading him if they didn’t take it. i think a team would be nuts to offer that much for ocho cinco, even if he might be worth it.

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by guy incognito on Apr 27, 2008 10:48 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I hope

the Bengals don’t buckle and he sits on the bench all year.

by Doctor Chicago on Apr 27, 2008 10:49 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Oneil Cousins gone

He would have been nice too.

by Doctor Chicago on Apr 27, 2008 10:47 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

what we should have done

and how i am going to set up madden… mistake was not signing Michael turner during the offseason. then draft williams OL, second round Limas Sweed, 70 : Oconnell

by 234L on Apr 27, 2008 10:48 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

11 more...

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by Twins Territory on Apr 27, 2008 10:49 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

I can't believe

we missed out on O’Connell, man that sucks for us.

by GallopingGhost on Apr 27, 2008 10:55 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Dude

they are so letting that guy pimp a website.

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by Adam T on Apr 27, 2008 10:55 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Hey guys

the Chiefs had a great draft, just in case you didn’t know.

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by Adam T on Apr 27, 2008 10:56 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

We're almost there...

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by Twins Territory on Apr 27, 2008 10:57 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Did you see

that fool wearing the Rashaan Salaam jersey?

by Doctor Chicago on Apr 27, 2008 11:00 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Jets fans are wearing Vilma jerseys'

Maybe they should have guards at the doors. You want in, wear a jersey that is currently on your team. Don’t be that guy.

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by Adam T on Apr 27, 2008 11:01 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

On NFLN

or ESPN either way I missed it

by GallopingGhost on Apr 27, 2008 11:01 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I like how ESPN

has Tony Reali doing a roundtable. He’s just a mediator, just on ATH but its funny.

by GallopingGhost on Apr 27, 2008 11:01 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Take Anthony Collins.

If they’re not going for a QB, at least build through the line.

"I've got a class (coming in) here, we've got a chance to do some things." --Tom Izzo on why he might not consider the Bulls coaching vacancy.

by tyger1147 on Apr 27, 2008 11:03 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Seems like a good move

But Woodson could be the pick too.

by Doctor Chicago on Apr 27, 2008 11:04 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I kinda like Woodson

as a fourth round pick. Who do you guys like better, Woodson or Booty?

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by Twins Territory on Apr 27, 2008 11:06 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

We're getting to the "next Tom Brady" territory w/ Woodson.

Kind of.

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by tyger1147 on Apr 27, 2008 11:07 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I think the Titans

Just drafted a guy from a cigarette company: Winston Salem State…

by GallopingGhost on Apr 27, 2008 11:04 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

ESPN is a pick behind

I switched over after the Browns pick and they just announced the trade and haven’t run the pick.

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by Adam T on Apr 27, 2008 11:05 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

OH

the Chiefs just took Will Franklin. There draft is just getting better and better. They rock.

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by Adam T on Apr 27, 2008 11:06 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Time to bring back Herm

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by Adam T on Apr 27, 2008 11:08 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

The NFL.com

draft picker is WAY behind.

by GallopingGhost on Apr 27, 2008 11:08 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Now one...

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by Twins Territory on Apr 27, 2008 11:14 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Titans are having

a horrible draft. The kid they took from Winston Salem, Kiper has as an undrafted free agent.

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by Adam T on Apr 27, 2008 11:14 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Yeah it's bad

they’d better hope Chris Johnson exceeds expectations.

by Doctor Chicago on Apr 27, 2008 11:16 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Actually

They said Kiper had him when the NFL did not now have him on potential draftees.

by GallopingGhost on Apr 27, 2008 11:17 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Well yeah

Doesn’t everybody love Earl Bennett’s family?

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by Adam T on Apr 27, 2008 11:18 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

We're up

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by Twins Territory on Apr 27, 2008 11:16 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

After this pick, we have to wait a while…

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by Twins Territory on Apr 27, 2008 11:17 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

not a fan of the Booty?

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by Adam T on Apr 27, 2008 11:19 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Issues:

Weak arm, not accurate downfield and he wa sinjured every year he was at USC.

by GallopingGhost on Apr 27, 2008 11:20 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I think it'll be

Collins
Booty
Woodson

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by Twins Territory on Apr 27, 2008 11:19 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Maybe Collins then trade into the fourth and take Woodson?

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by Twins Territory on Apr 27, 2008 11:19 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Or trade...

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by Twins Territory on Apr 27, 2008 11:20 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Urlacher getting some love

on ESPN

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by Adam T on Apr 27, 2008 11:20 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Trade Down?

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by Adam T on Apr 27, 2008 11:20 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Jason Taylor?

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by Twins Territory on Apr 27, 2008 11:21 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

If so then

We got a helluva a deal! Ha

by GallopingGhost on Apr 27, 2008 11:22 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I’d say :)

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by Twins Territory on Apr 27, 2008 11:23 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

So did we just move down to 16 in this round?

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by Twins Territory on Apr 27, 2008 11:22 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

You think we'd

Have wanted more than just to drop 5 picks…

by GallopingGhost on Apr 27, 2008 11:23 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I have no idea

Nobody’s saying anything.

by Doctor Chicago on Apr 27, 2008 11:23 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

On ESPN.com is looks like we moved to #16 in this round and I’d assume we got something else.

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by Twins Territory on Apr 27, 2008 11:23 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

assuming

they remembered to get something in return

by 234L on Apr 27, 2008 11:27 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Anyone seen anything other than us moving down five picks?

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by Twins Territory on Apr 27, 2008 11:27 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Looks like

moved down 5 spots and got the 1st pick in the 7th round

by whitesoxmatt on Apr 27, 2008 11:28 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

I'll take it.

JA does better in late rounds than early ones, haha

by GallopingGhost on Apr 27, 2008 11:28 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Yep

ESPN has us listed there with a “T” by it…

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by Twins Territory on Apr 27, 2008 11:29 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Damnit

Cinci got Anthony Collins!

by GallopingGhost on Apr 27, 2008 11:29 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

I’m thinking they didn’t want him becuase they would have taken him and not moved down.

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by Twins Territory on Apr 27, 2008 11:31 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yeah

must not have been too high on him.

by Doctor Chicago on Apr 27, 2008 11:31 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Moving down

for a little Booty?

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by Adam T on Apr 27, 2008 11:30 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

down with that

dennis dixon in the 7th…

by 234L on Apr 27, 2008 11:32 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I wonder how the Vikings draft part is. One pick so far…

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by Twins Territory on Apr 27, 2008 11:30 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Holy shit... Carl Nicks is still available.

I didn’t think he was anything special, but he’s got very good RT potential. A draft with him and Williams would light my fire anew. Ewww Or something else.

"I've got a class (coming in) here, we've got a chance to do some things." --Tom Izzo on why he might not consider the Bulls coaching vacancy.

by tyger1147 on Apr 27, 2008 11:32 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

I just saw that

that would be a sweet pick.

by Doctor Chicago on Apr 27, 2008 11:32 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Never heard of him

But this sounds intriguing. I like that. Where did he play?

by GallopingGhost on Apr 27, 2008 11:34 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Nebraska (where I'm from)

I’m not a fan of theirs, but I see them a lot. He’s raw, but he’s got size and decent athleticism.

"I've got a class (coming in) here, we've got a chance to do some things." --Tom Izzo on why he might not consider the Bulls coaching vacancy.

by tyger1147 on Apr 27, 2008 11:34 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

7th-ranked Tackle by Scott Wright

at NFL Draft Countdown

"I've got a class (coming in) here, we've got a chance to do some things." --Tom Izzo on why he might not consider the Bulls coaching vacancy.

by tyger1147 on Apr 27, 2008 11:38 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs