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Kevin Jones - A Detroit Perspective

Our head blogger over at Pride of Detroit has been kind enough to give us a quick run down of Kevin Jones career in Detroit and a run donw on what we can expect out of him.

Kevin Jones had a career in Detroit that is best described as a roller coaster ride.  He started off with a great rookie season but really hasn't been able to achieve that kind of success since.  The reasons for that vary from being misused by the Lions to struggling with injuries.  I have no doubt that his potential is still very high as he is fairly young, but there are many questions surrounding him since his career has been a mystery in a sense.

What the Bears will get out of Jones is someone that can come in and pick up yards as a workhorse type of running back.  He doesn't have lightning speed and isn't exactly a home run hitter, but he can get the job done.  He may not have out of this world speed, but he is quick in his movements.  That attribute allows him to avoid defenders, and even when he can't pull off a juke or something like that, his power takes over.  Jones is very strong and uses that to his advantage by driving over defenders.  It's not something he does on a consistent basis, but every once in a while he'll make a big hit of his own despite being a running back.

The issue with Jones is without a doubt his health.  If he can stay healthy, then Jones should rush for over 1000 yards in a starting role.  That's the problem, though.  The last two years he has had season-ending injuries involving his leg, which is never good for a running back.  Those two injuries may have just been freak occurrences or they could be a sign of an injury prone player.  For his sake I hope it's the former, but honestly I'd be surprised if Jones was able to make it through a full season should he become a starter.

If Kevin Jones can remain healthy, then I believe he will be the Chicago Bears' starting running back.  Not only is a change of scenery going to be good for him, but he also has a better offensive line now that he is no longer a Lion.  And to top that all off, he'll get two games against his former team, and I guarantee he will be out for revenge.  In fact, back when he invited some local media members to a workout, Jones screamed "Colletto" before doing a sprint.  Colletto is a reference to the Lions new offensive coordinator, Jim Colletto, who Jones obviously believes is the man responsible for him getting released.  Plus, former Lions always seem to play well against their former team. Some call it the "Lions jinx," and God knows if Artose Pinner can do it, so can Kevin Jones.

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Those last lines were funny.

I disagree that Chicago has a better offensive line. At least as anything noteworthy. I can’t see Chicago itself improving THAT much on its own o-line to be noticeably better than Detroit’s was last year.

by tyger1147 on Jul 16, 2008 8:48 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Really?

Drafting a Left Tackle, a guy who was projected into the top 10 by some, in the 1st round and moving a former All-Pro to his natural position is NOT a significant improvement?

You don’t think adding a top prospect to the most important position on the line will help THAT much?

by HesterSteals1st on Jul 17, 2008 12:21 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

You said it yourself....

....he’s a top “prospect.” Just because they’re King Shit on Turd Island during their college years does not mean it’ll translate to the NFL. I remember Marc Colombo pretty vividly, so I’m gonna give this kid a little bit and see how he does.

I'M A MAN! I'M 22!

by ChiFan13 on Jul 17, 2008 9:11 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Jim Colletto???

Here is a guy who must come across well in conversation or who is well-connected in the ol’ boys club of football coaching. I just don’t know what this guy has done to be continually employed in the NFL and college football as a head coach or coordinator. He coached some of the worst Purdue teams in the early 90’s. I remember him because it made me laugh that his headset had “JIM” printed on the earpiece. What coach has his first name on the headset?

Other than that, I can’t recall anything this guy’s done to distinguish himself. If this signing pans out, maybe I’ll be able to thank him for Kevin Jones.

"I'm very important. I have many leather-bound books and my apartment smells of rich mahogany." - Ron Burgundy

by mdmnd9294 on Jul 16, 2008 10:06 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Hmmmmmm. Very Interesting
someone that can come in and pick up yards as a workhorse type of running back. He doesn’t have lightning speed and isn’t exactly a home run hitter, but he can get the job done. He may not have out of this world speed, but he is quick in his movements. That attribute allows him to avoid defenders, and even when he can’t pull off a juke or something like that, his power takes over. Jones is very strong and uses that to his advantage by driving over defenders

Is it just me, or does that sound a lot like what CB was supposed to be?

I am like your Dan Aykroyd and biglow would be Jane, the ignorant slut. -Chad

by thecoolest on Jul 16, 2008 12:23 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Except...

...I think this guy has a little more drive and determination than CB had. Hopefully he saw that no one wanted to bite on an injury-prone RB, and the Bears gave him a chance.

But yeah, pretty much word-for-word what Ceddy was supposed to be. I’m a Longhorns fan, so I saw Cedric run throughout college and obviously with the Bears. Major difference in running style and performance from him in those two places.

I'M A MAN! I'M 22!

by ChiFan13 on Jul 16, 2008 1:09 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

That kinda of negative, completely-unfounded speculation has no place in this discussion.

To quickly address it, though, anyone that is not legally blind can look at KJ and know that he is not CB. As far as physical appearance and character, there are no Coolio-esque dreads, questionable trash-stache, perpetually-high droopy-eyed look, and no skinny little birdlegs for him worry about hurting so much that he tries to get to the ground as quickly as possible once he’s reached the line of scrimmage. Additionally, and more importantly, on that point, is KJ – in all of the newspaper and ESPN interviews I’ve seen thus far – has said all of the right things to make me think he’ll actually enjoy being a great football player, not just enjoy proving to everybody else that they were wrong. The only ounce of emotion I think we ever saw out of CB in an entire season was after his lone breakaway TD run in the Seahawks game (which, might I add, and that nobody ever mentions, didn’t involve him getting past a single defender as he had a wide open plain of blown coverage to waltz through), and even that came off much more as a “how do you like that?” to the fans and media than a legitimate love of the game. KJ will bring a completely different attitude to the huddle than CB did, and when/if he gains confidence in his knee during training camp, that attitude, work ethic, and talent will translate into something after the snap that looks nothing like CB.

Which brings me to my next point – both in response to that post comparing the two and for a standalone/worthwhile discussion point – on his talent and/or what type of contribution he can bring to a two-back tandem, preferably comparable to a successful tandem that currently exists in the league. I’ve checked out what little Youtube highlights there are of him as a Lion and as a stud at VT (I would post the link but can’t access Youtube at work… sorry), and I must say I’m pretty positive about what I see. He displays some respectable ability to cut back and change direction coupled with pretty impressive (subsequent) acceleration. He doesn’t seem to approach the LOS with his ankles turned outwards in anticipation of juking anybody out to slow himself down (like both CB and TJones always did), and seems to chose correctly between making contact or trying to avoid a defender (which CB could never, ever do). In reference to the lack-of-speed comment above, I think the only applicable note I would have is that he doesn’t seem to have good breakaway speed to avoid the catch-up tackles by pursuing defensive backs – that “play-making” ability, it seems, will have to be left up to Forte and, God willing, some day, Wolfe. His profile lends to the perception that he’s more compact (same weight as Forte while three inches shorter) and, therefore, more of a “power” back…

SO, while both he and Forte seem like they could be solid all-around backs and both reduce the predictability we suffered from last year when we put in any of our three backs that all excelled at only one or two things, I’m wondering how the two guys’ natural talent sets will influence their usage on the field. Despite KJ’s knee concerns, Forte looks like the more “fragile” back of the two (and that’s RELATIVELY speaking… I’m not actually calling him fragile), but at the same time he seems like he’ll be much more of the gamebreaker our offense will need to be able counter that of more-explosive opposing running games, such as AP in minnesota, Reggie Bush in NO, or what we expect Run DMC to be in Oakland. What I’m getting at, I suppose, is whether we can expect KJ to naturally drift towards being the short-yardage or GL back of the two WITHOUT necessarily being confined to short-yardage and GL situations, much like the Chester Taylors, the Deuce McAllisters, and the Justin Fargas’ of the world are / will be for their respective tandems.

Thoughts? Anybody have different (positive) expectations for or impressions of what KJ could bring to the table differently than Forte?

by The Spaniard on Jul 16, 2008 2:07 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yikes

If you’re this riled up even before the start of training camp, I’m sure you keep your cardiologist happy. You’ve probably sent him on a couple vacations already, and I’m sure he’s looking forward to getting himself a new Mercedes.

No one was talking about physical or mental appearance. We were talking strictly about a football critique of KJ, which was very similar to CB’s out of college.

I'M A MAN! I'M 22!

by ChiFan13 on Jul 16, 2008 2:28 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I was just joking around and poking fun at CB - nobody is "riled up"...

other than (apparently) tyger1147, who is either CB, CB’s best friend, Coolio, or somebody else with that ridiculous haircut to be so offended by the reference…

And even though I write out my opinions in dramatic superlatives (bad habit, I know), it doesn’t mean I’m sitting here yelling at my computer screen and foaming at the mouth.

thecoolest, I did (wrongly, sorry) think you were implying in a low-effort one-liner that the result would be the same just because of the parallels in their descriptions. I actually generally agreed with and tried to expand upon the assessment of KJ in further detail, both in terms of the football aspect in the latter two paragraphs and also in terms of the “drive and determination” element that ChiFan13 brought up (... and then subsequently criticized as being unrelated to football when I addressed it… which I think was unfair, but whatever).

by The Spaniard on Jul 16, 2008 3:27 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I was not criticizing...

...rather, I was explaining that we were discussing both CB’s and KJ’s pros and cons, which turned out to be eeriely similar to one another. I believe that we all see that these two are about as similar as an apple and a Porterhouse steak when it comes to drive, mental toughness, and overall maturity. Yes, they are both short yardage power backs, as thecoolest pointed out. But KJ proved himself his rookie season, while CB proved himself to be an alcoholic.

Back to your previous argument, I’ll say that I don’t believe GW will be a viable NFL running back. He is small and quick, to be sure, but I cannot see him taking the repetitive pounding. I hope I’m wrong, because it’s nice to see a “hometown boy” in the system, but I don’t see him as a viable option for us.

KJ and Forte, if healthy, should provide us with a 1-2 punch. And, it looks to be a mature 1-2 punch at that. It’ll just be nice not to listen to CB bitch this coming training camp.

I'M A MAN! I'M 22!

by ChiFan13 on Jul 16, 2008 3:59 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

not offended at all

Just amazed that someone who knows how to use a computer and follows modern sports would have their best reference for “dreads” be Coolio. A) The hair is different, but maybe all black peoples’ hair is the same? and B) (maybe more importantly) Coolio hasn’t been relevant since… Gangsta’s Paradise?

by tyger1147 on Jul 16, 2008 6:27 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I wasn't saying

that the outcomes were going to be the same, I was saying that they are the same type of player, short yardage power backs. I was comparing what Jones is to what CB was supposed to be in the NFL. Calm down dude.

I am like your Dan Aykroyd and biglow would be Jane, the ignorant slut. -Chad

by thecoolest on Jul 16, 2008 3:07 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

can somebody tell me where there's a big enough difference to prompt calling somebody an idiot?

“Coolio-esque” was a specific reference to CB’s dreads, not dreads in general, buddy. I’m amazed that someone who knows how to use a computer doesn’t know how to read.

realistically, I think coolio looked like less of a goon.

by The Spaniard on Jul 16, 2008 7:50 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

well...

... being that the two heads of hair look nothing alike, I think the description was neither accurate OR culturally relevant.

by big_lowitzki on Jul 16, 2008 9:39 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

whoa

it really does look like a dollar sign!

I am like your Dan Aykroyd and biglow would be Jane, the ignorant slut. -Chad

by thecoolest on Jul 17, 2008 3:25 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

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