Tillman's Time Off and Bears Defense
If you recall toward the beginning of training camp Charles Tillman was absent for personal reasons and none of us knew what those were. He was out due to a serious medical condition with his daughter. He is set to finally talk about it today at 1:30.
Coach Lovie Smith and physicians from the hospital will accompany Tillman, who politely declined to discuss details of the matter Thursday before the Bears-Browns game.
"Mentally, it has been challenging for me and my family with all we've had to go through these past three months," he told WBBM-AM during a sideline interview.
In the same article it lists Lovie Smith as the 9th best coach in the league by an MSNBC poll. The big reasoning is the amount of games won with the QBs we have had.
With the trade of Brett Favre it has left the NFC North with a QB group as a weak point.
The 2007 combined passer rating of all the quarterbacks in the NFC North this year was 78.
Bears coaches are left stunned by the play of their D and I think most of us are the same way.
The most numbing play of the night came on fourth-and-goal from the 1 when the Browns decided to go for it and give the defense an opportunity to finish with a big play. Instead, the Bears linebackers froze on a dive fake, and Browns third-string running back Jerome Harrison took a pitch and shook off the only defender who read the play, Kevin Payne, for the touchdown.
If unproven Jason Wright can average six yards per carry slithering through holes and make would-be tacklers look silly, what will the Colts' Joseph Addai do?
Watching the Bears try to defend against the Browns probably did more to make Peyton Manning's left knee feel better than any anti-inflammatory medicine could. No way Manning, who has started 160 straight games, will miss an opportunity to shred the once-vaunted Bears defense.
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OUR DEFENSE LOOKS FRIGGIN HORRIBLE!
And, I’m absolutely disgusted by it. Running backs are finding holes everywhere, receivers are finding separation, and when we finally get to a ball carrier we can’t tackle worth a crap!
Lovie better change his friggin tune and make them run some tackling drills this week, because this piss poor play is inexcusable.
AND… Lovie’s pet project Bob Babich isn’t doing anything productive right now up in the booth.
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Updated on May 25, 2008
by SackMan on Aug 29, 2008 9:01 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Babich was on the sidelines yesterday
Lovie better get his defense going or he is going to have to sell his House in a bad market this year after he gets fired.
by beardown on Aug 29, 2008 9:06 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Ahhh... my bad.
I remember seeing him up in the booth last week.
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Updated on May 25, 2008
by SackMan on Aug 29, 2008 9:08 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
They thought
Babich could get a better view and be able to talk to players it would help.
Being Who You Thought We Were Since 2005!
by Adam T on Aug 29, 2008 11:32 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
David Haugh had a telling article about Loviespeak
The main premise that he brought up was knowing how bad the defense was last year, Lovie came into camp and blamed it on injuries. In essence, he gave the Bears D a free ride, and Haugh is exactly right in his theory. The Bears have been playing soft, unenergized football. I know that we didn’t play everyone and blah, blah, blah. The problem is that we have known about our soft defense since last year, and besides shelling out money, it seems the coaching staff has done nothing to get more out of our defense.
I’m starting to get sick very quickly of this organization’s mismanagement. One got caught in a lie and one has been coddling his vaunted unit. While I believe it is a smart policy to keep your own players (Harris, Briggs, etc.) and even overpay a little for the privilege, I think it was a stupid mistake to lock up so many defensive contracts at once. Within the past two years: Tillman, Vasher, Urlacher, Briggs, Hillenmeyer, Harris, Alex Brown, and Mike Brown. Eight out of the eleven starters on defense are now locked up. Does anyone see what could happen here?
Players who got overpaid for their services for a long-term deal + complacency + Loviespeak that shows no sign of action anytime soon = Defense of ’07 all over again.
I miss Ron….
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by ChiFan13 on Aug 29, 2008 9:03 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Chico should've been our new Head Coach after the Super Bowl.
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Updated on May 25, 2008
by SackMan on Aug 29, 2008 9:08 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
correct me if i'm wrong...
but didn’t Mike Brown take a pay cut to stay on the roster? and yes you are correct in saying complacency is an issue. i myself am not ready to give up on the d just yet.
they do not practice tackling, the did not play all preseason as a whole. certain people sat out or were not available and that will reflect on what we see. will this d be a 28th ranked again? man i hope not. will they be 5th over all? probably not. there is alot of talent on that d and we won’t know what we got until after week one, or more than likely week 4.
i agree with you though, i do miss Chico!
by coolgjc on Aug 29, 2008 10:52 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
You are correct
MB did take a pay cut. He’d have to have a Pro Bowl season to make the money he was going to before he restructured.
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by ChiFan13 on Aug 29, 2008 11:29 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
ON OFFENSE.
I may have to change my tune about Caleb Hanie. Wow. I was impressed last night. He was the only guy we had who was consistently making good things happen. He shook off pressure, and should’ve been sacked, only to escape the pocket and make some throws.
He moved the chains well… and had one gem of a TD throw from about 30 yards out that got called back on a penalty.
Brandon Rideau (Sp?) looked sharp again as well.
Adrian Peterson had one HUGE blitz pickup for Grossman.
That’s all I can remember right now.
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Updated on May 25, 2008
by SackMan on Aug 29, 2008 9:06 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Agreed
Also, Mark Bradley has come outta nowhere and suddenly I like the kid again. I wasn’t a big fan before camp, but wow, he’s starting to look good again. I just don’t know who should start where….
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by ChiFan13 on Aug 29, 2008 9:11 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
The only thing about Hanie....
He looks good against the 3rd string: the equivalent to the guys he played against in college. Still hard to evaluate. But, his instincts look good. He also threaded the needle one time last night, which I was impressed with.
However, you start to get the perspective when you see Grossman pick apart a second team defense as well. Guys need to be playing against NFL starters for a true evaluation.
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Updated on May 25, 2008
by SackMan on Aug 29, 2008 9:18 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Absolutely
But, the one thing I’ll always keep coming back to is that he looked poised. When Grossman sees people coming toward him, he throws a pick, gets sacked badly, or does something stupid most of the time. Hanie just has “it”. He looks and acts like a QB.
He has been playing against 3rd string defenses, but I am still excited that he looks confident out there. Once he has a chance to learn the system and develop a little bit, hopefully he can rise up and play at that level against 2nd string and eventually 1st.
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by ChiFan13 on Aug 29, 2008 9:22 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
But, we might lose him altogether.
They seem to be leaning with only keeping 2 QBs on the roster, which is a league-wide trend right now. However, giving the Bears history of having to use 3 QBs in any given season… you;d think they would keep 3?
Then, there’s the Chris Williams roster spot situation. That already takes away one more spot for them. If they cut him, they have to try and get him on the Practice Squad… and then, there’s no guarantee of keeping him, as any team can sign any of your practice squad players during the season. Correct?
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Updated on May 25, 2008
by SackMan on Aug 29, 2008 9:30 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Roster Roulette will be very interesting.
I agree on Hanie. He seems to have better football instincts than any Bears QB in recent memory. (I just wish his name was something like “Caleb Canaveral” though.)
IMO, the Bears will have to put him on the roster or they’ll lose him for sure.
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by alec on Aug 29, 2008 12:32 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Smith doing his coach-speak BS
’We’ve been vanilla the entire preseason,‘’ Smith said. ’’We are not going to use that as a reason for not playing as well as we need to. We’re not going to go down that road. Yeah, we’ll have a lot more stuff in [when we play the Colts], but that’s the base stuff we do and you need to be sound fundamentally with your base stuff.’’
He’s making an excuse, and saying it’s not an excuse. Lovely. Or, should I say Lovie?
Listen Lovie, with the amount of pro-bowl caliber talent on your defense, you shouldn’t have to game plan much at all in the pre-season to see good results. Our players are supposed to be more talented than most of the opposition. They’re expected to successfully shed blocks, apply pressure, keep good coverage, and make tackles regardless of what game plan you have or haven’t put together for them in the pre-season.
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Updated on May 25, 2008
by SackMan on Aug 29, 2008 9:33 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
ummm
Not that I love Lovie’s coded, tight-lipped way of saying things, but he essentially said the same thing you just ranted about. When he said “We’re not going to use that as a reason for not playing as well as we need to,” he’s basically saying what you stated — that we have enough talent that running a vanilla defense is not an excuse. In fact, when he said “We’ve been vanilla the entire preseason” he said it to squelch a reporter who said that some of the players used the “vanilla excuse” for their poor play.
I saw the interview and you could tell his frustration. My problem is that he just needs to show the players more emotion than he shows the public. Rather than a little voice cracking, I’d love to hear a player come to the media and say Lovie tore our keesters a huge new one. Coach is pissed.
Publicly, I can understand why he keeps calm, kind of. But, he needs to become a better motivator behind the doors. He seems way too much to be a player’s coach. Call them out.
by ethan a on Aug 29, 2008 11:05 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Lovie said...
…that after the 49ers, the defense needed to improve.
Yesterday, the defense didn’t improve.
So, that means that Lovie needs to lay into them. Will it happen? It’ll happen when pigs fly.
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by ChiFan13 on Aug 29, 2008 11:33 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
tillman's daughter apparently had a heart transplat
explains his absence. that’s pretty serious stuff…hopefully she’s okay.
by guy incognito on Aug 29, 2008 11:55 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
As my friend put it: Bears players are getting Dusty Baker Syndrome
Except it’s Lovie Syndrome this time, he makes excuses and the team believes it and doesn’t respond to the coach any more and no longer get fired up by the coach. He needs to change this otherwise he will lose the team and the defense especially will under achieve.
by GallopingGhost on Aug 29, 2008 12:33 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
He'll be losing more than the team and the defense
He’ll lose his job.
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by ChiFan13 on Aug 29, 2008 11:32 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

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