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Did the Bears Make a Mistake Drafting Chris Williams?

The Bears selected Vanderbilt tackle Chris Williams with the 14th pick in this year's draft.  Their reasoning was that he was the best pure left tackle available and it fit their biggest need. 

That sounds fair and is a decent enough justification, but in light of Williams back problems in only the second day of training camp and his subsequent surgery it brings up some questions.  Williams was known to have back issues.  The Bears claim that this was not a preexisting injury, but some scouts in attendance at the KC game disagree.

The three say they actually removed Chris Williams from their draft board due to injury concerns.

That news was met with skepticism by at least three scouts among the 21 in attendance at the game who claimed their teams had taken the player off their draft board because of medical concerns.

''I heard that on the radio,'' one scout said. ''Why are they lying about it? You know it will all come out.''

Said another: ''Our doctors said the guy would need to do something. I guess they were right.''

The Bears passed up some pretty big names and others who could have filled needed area.  Branden Albert, the tackle out of Virginia, was seen as a top 10 talent who could fill two spots on the Bears line.  He went one pick later ironically to  Kansas City.  Rashard Mendenhall, who some thought was the best running back in the draft was also past up.  He fell to the Steelers at 23.  Other offensive linemen like Jeff Otah, Sam Baker and Gosder Cherilus all went in the next 6 picks.

Did the Bears knowingly overlook an injury?  Was the Bears medical staff negligent in their duties?  If they did know, why would they still draft him?  Were they trying to prove something?  Was Williams potential so high that they were willing to overlook others at that position and big names at other skill positions?  Or could this all really just be coincidence?

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Wow. 3 out of 21?

Solid.

Oh, you mean that Brandon Albert that will be out for the rest of the pre-season?

by tyger1147 on Aug 8, 2008 2:12 PM CDT reply reply   0 recs

Whenever something goes wrong...

...it seems as if the most important thing to do is to find out “who is to blame”. This is just very bad luck. Yeah, he might have had some preexisting issues but every player does in one way or the other, whether it be health related or not. The fact that it happened on the very first day of practice seems more freakish then preexisting. I would think a preexisting back issue would be something that would wear down during the season. When I played football, I had a bad knee and it always felt great in the beginning of the season and horrible towards the end.

And before we start naming people they could have drafted, we have no idea how good any of those players that you named actually are. There were scouts that actually had Matt Forte ranked above Mendenhall. You can’t say that the Bears “missed” until you know how the other draft picks end up doing.

This is just a terrible thing to happen to the Bears offensive line. Why does this kind of stuff keep happening to our team? Bad luck.

by californiabearfan on Aug 8, 2008 2:19 PM CDT reply reply   0 recs

I think if you look at recent history you have to ask some questions:

Beekman, Okwo, Dvarorcek, Bazine, and Williams never made it to preseason in their first season game without season ending injuries. That seems pretty odd. It would be awesome to see how many training camp practices these guys even had.

I majorly question the medical staff on this team.

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by #23 on Aug 8, 2008 2:52 PM CDT reply reply   0 recs

Jerry Angelo was suppose to be answering fan questions on Bears.com

Usually once they post that it takes one-two days before you see the article with questions answered. That was posted I believe two days ago and no article is up and also they removed the article saying he would be answering questions. I guess he isn’t in the mood after messing this team over in the offseason by doing a horrible job fixing our line issues. Come on. One draft pick was going to fix that line. A rookie. Now you have nothing. Thanks Jerry.

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by #23 on Aug 8, 2008 2:58 PM CDT reply reply   0 recs

Yes, a Mistake

Of course it was. This back issue was widely reported. They’re kidding themselves if they think calling it a “new” injury is going to absolve them of this gaffe.

Yes, Brandon Albert is hurt. But, one, is not out for the year. And, two, he got hurt in camp. That is completely different than someone with a pre-existing condition. There’s no way you could say he’d get landed on the same way in Bear’s camp as happened in Chief’s camp. Before he got hurt, Albert was doing VERY well at LT.

by bfos7215 on Aug 8, 2008 3:02 PM CDT reply reply   0 recs

The interesting thing about this is

that Rusty Jones has been widely praised about the conditioning of guys. I wonder if possibly the practices are too stressful too early, though if they were you would probably hear about player complaints.

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by WCG on Aug 8, 2008 3:08 PM CDT reply reply   0 recs

Anyone

ever wonder if playing in certain places might have an impact as well as the medical staff? Or the GM? It’s football folks. Injuries happen. Get over it.

by mikebdot on Aug 8, 2008 3:11 PM CDT reply reply   0 recs

The odd part

is that we have injuries to our draft picks all the damn time. Coincidence would be happening once in a while when you draft a player. Being stupid is doing it over and over.

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by ChiFan13 on Aug 8, 2008 11:02 PM CDT to parent up reply reply   0 recs

This seems like as good a time as any to bring up a point

... that has had me a little confused, since it happened in the draft, with the sequence of picks mentioned in the starting post for this thread…

did anyone else that watched the draft live realize how the Lions, in the 15th spot coming directly after us and fully expected to also be selecting an OT, managed to trade their pick to KC for the 17th overall pick AND the 1st pick in the 5th round? and how the Bears so completely failed to get such a trade when all of the aforementioned prospective tackles were still on the board and we all knew they needed to stockpile draft picks to begin with?

sure, it was possible that they weren’t contacted or that KC was waiting to make its move until after the Bears picked, but IF NOT, why didn’t the circumstances allow for the Bears to get the same, or even a slightly better, trade? if you make that trade, you still have the luxury of picking between Brandon Albert (versatile/high ceiling) and Jeff Otah (supposed to be a mauler in the running game) and then selecting with the 1st pick in the 5th round. this would probably be a good time to point out that the Vikings used the 2nd pick of the 5th round to get JaBooty, who I am praying doesn’t come in and prove to be the currently-lacking dependable game manager that’s the last thing that franchise needs before its set to dominate the division for the next several years…

either JA and his draft team didn’t go out and adequately survey the market for trade opportunities (which I think its their job to do) that would leave them with nearly the same caliber of a prospect, minus the back injury problems, OR they knew about the trade possibility but stubbornly passed on the value-adding move to stick with Williams because he was the slightly-surer “quick fix” for filling the need the media and the fans all knew needed to be addressed. if it were the latter, you’d have to wonder if pressures from elsewhere in the organization from concerns about ticket sales didn’t have a role in the course of action, or lack thereof.

that’s all circumstantial, of course, and barely tied to this discussion, I know. I’ve always thought it was a good point, though, and was never brought up in any draft review/ analysis that I ever saw or heard.

by The Spaniard on Aug 8, 2008 3:57 PM CDT reply reply   0 recs

All GMs do their due dilligence

I’m sure he had several offers to trade down. He’s known to do it quite often, just look at his history of drafting. So Angelo is damned if he does, or damned if he doesn’t. They targeted the most natural LT and everyone complains because he had a freak injury. Absolutely rediculous! I’m sure Albert will be pretty good, but there’s no assurance that he’ll be a good LT, none whatsoever.

"I'm not so mean. I wouldn't ever go out to hurt anybody deliberately - unless it was, you know, important, like a league game or something." - Dick Butkus

by propheteer on Aug 8, 2008 8:24 PM CDT to parent up reply reply   0 recs

Well

I wanted SHARD the whole time, but in the picks that preceded ours, I came to the realization that we weren’t going to get him. I decided I would be ok with getting an o-lineman as long as it wasn’t Williams (aka the “Finesse Tackle”). Then JA had to go and disappoint me and draft him. My wish list was 1. Shard, 2. Clady, and 3. Albert. I just wanted people to know where I stood on this.

Another thing I wanted to say is that people should think that even though he may not play this season, who knows about his future? Maybe he turns out to be a franchise tackle or something. Not saying it’s going to happen, but it might. Hopefully.

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by thecoolest on Aug 8, 2008 6:16 PM CDT reply reply   0 recs

the docs may be lying

but the fact is, right now the doctors are saying this injury is completely unrelated to whatever he had in college. again, they may be lying to the public to save face, but scouts are not medical professionals. i think this is just really bad luck, nothing more. injuries happen.

by guy incognito on Aug 8, 2008 6:40 PM CDT reply reply   0 recs

Not a word

When exactly did analysts talk about this so-called pre-existing condition in Williams’ back? All the draft coverage, completely over done, and I never heard a single comment on his back. The only knock on him was his short arms. I think these scouts are just fueling the fire a bit. The fact remains he was completely healthy in college and never missed a game. Purely bad luck, and it’s not like this is season or career threatening.

"I'm not so mean. I wouldn't ever go out to hurt anybody deliberately - unless it was, you know, important, like a league game or something." - Dick Butkus

by propheteer on Aug 8, 2008 8:20 PM CDT reply reply   0 recs

I don't remember analysts

saying anything but there plenty of reports right after he was drafted that he was already injured.

I am like your Dan Aykroyd and biglow would be Jane, the ignorant slut. -Chad

by thecoolest on Aug 9, 2008 2:29 PM CDT to parent up reply reply   0 recs

Williams was considered such a health risk on draft day that NFL Network analyst Mike Mayock reported three of six teams he talked to dropped the tackle from their draft boards.

mentioed here, you could probably find the mayock article somehwere. it was definately mentioned during the draft or the days before.

http://www.pantagraph.com/articles/2008/08/08/sportsextra/doc489cf7a72b6ec091327105.txt

by mike b on Aug 9, 2008 2:36 PM CDT to parent up reply reply   0 recs

or I THOUGHT

I heard it day of.

by mike b on Aug 9, 2008 2:36 PM CDT to parent up reply reply   0 recs

Yeah

there was an article up on it on PFT the day of the draft.

I am like your Dan Aykroyd and biglow would be Jane, the ignorant slut. -Chad

by thecoolest on Aug 9, 2008 3:33 PM CDT to parent up reply reply   0 recs

Not a mistake, but definitely an oversight.

Angelo shouldn’t have put all his eggs in one basket. Why didn’t he draft a guard in the fourth or fifth rounds? If not in the draft, why not over pay to get Faneca or another OG available in free-agency.

"I'm not so mean. I wouldn't ever go out to hurt anybody deliberately - unless it was, you know, important, like a league game or something." - Dick Butkus

by propheteer on Aug 9, 2008 5:17 PM CDT reply reply   0 recs


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