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Chicago Bears VS. Carolina Panthers - 2nd Half Game Thread

Briggsie_tiny by ChiFan13 on Comment 516 comments

1st half studs:

Matt Forte - Hasn't scored, but kept drives alive and milked the clock.

Kyle Orton - He gets it because he hasn't done anything to lose the game for us.

Brandon Lloyd - Slowly shaking the "best practice player" reputation.

1st half duds:

Brandon McGowan - Come on bro, two illegal blocks on ST? You're better than that.

Greg Olsen - Really only putting him here because no one else has been doing bad.

The "Here's your sign" award goes to:

.....Carolina's entire team. They've made a ton of stupid penalties.

The All-World complainer award goes to:

Jake Delhomme. Don't complain to the officials about penalties when your team can't figure it out. Anger's an ugly color on you, Jakey.

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Frist post in second half thread!!

Lets put some points on the board Bears!!

Fire Angelo!!

by GallopingGhost on Sep 14, 2008 1:28 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

I think we should be able to

D’s been solid as hell so far.

I'M A MAN! I'M 22!

by ChiFan13 on Sep 14, 2008 1:29 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

are you really 22?

So am I! Haha

"This balls got a chaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaannce, GONE!" - Pat Hughes

by SouthsideCUBSfan on Sep 14, 2008 1:33 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

We get the ball so let’s put a nice drive together. Our return game needs to step it up and get us field position.

by tfrabotta on Sep 14, 2008 1:30 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

offense needs to step up

orton needs to get his head right, couple of forced balls that were not smart.

by mike b on Sep 14, 2008 1:31 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Not sharp?

He started 6/6

Fire Angelo!!

by GallopingGhost on Sep 14, 2008 1:34 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

He got bailed out on one by Lloyd and threw no passes over 5 yards.

That’s not real impressive.

Kick it to me... I'm open!

by #23 on Sep 14, 2008 1:35 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Let's see.

He threw it behind Davis in the endzone
Threw it in the ground on a screen to Davis
Behind Lloyd which bailed him out
Out of bands on the deep pass to I can’t remember who
A play that was forced to I think Llyod that had 2 defenders that both should have picked it off.

I would say not real sharp.

Kick it to me... I'm open!

by #23 on Sep 14, 2008 1:37 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

shocking...

… an Orton deep throw really bad?

visit the mindful mission

by big_lowitzki on Sep 14, 2008 3:09 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

i know

looked like every other part of grossman’s game.

by mike b on Sep 14, 2008 3:12 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

yup...

… because Orton telegraphing that pass on 3rd and 1 was better than Grossman. Or Orton throwing the ball into the dirt a couple of plays earlier…

visit the mindful mission

by big_lowitzki on Sep 14, 2008 3:18 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

better than what?

all the shit plays grossman has made in his career?

give me a break.

by mike b on Sep 14, 2008 3:19 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

umm...

Orton, for the most part, has also been “shit” for most of his career.

But at least Grossman can win games for a team.

visit the mindful mission

by big_lowitzki on Sep 14, 2008 3:27 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

he can?

suprised we didn’t start out 3-0 last year then

and i am even more suprised that we won a single game without him in 05.

how either one of you “i love this guy” groups can support either one of them is beyond me.

by mike b on Sep 14, 2008 3:29 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

bs

I didnt say that he can win games by himself. I think that he can make plays that Orton simply cannot make.

I would have been much more confident with Rex in that final drive than Orton.

And I don’t love Grossman… I just think he is a better option than Orton.

visit the mindful mission

by big_lowitzki on Sep 14, 2008 3:31 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

no
I didnt say that he can win games by himself. I think that he can make plays that Orton simply cannot make.

you said he can win games, which both shitty guys have,

by mike b on Sep 14, 2008 3:34 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

and...

… i clarified what i meant, did I not?

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by big_lowitzki on Sep 14, 2008 3:35 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

what's the point

of picking out two bad plays by one qb and comparing it to another who has made the same amount of shit mistakes if not more? no matter what the name is.

by mike b on Sep 14, 2008 3:31 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

fair enough

I used two examples about how Orton really is not good.

Again, I just think that Rex was a better option, is a better option, and will continue to be a better option.

visit the mindful mission

by big_lowitzki on Sep 14, 2008 3:35 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Dude are you going to tell me Orton didn't suck today?

I’m not saying Rex vs. Kyle, but you’re saying only 2 bad plays. Come on he was horrible today. He audibled well and was lucky not to get picked if you can call that a talent. He couldn’t make a play all day!!!

Kick it to me... I'm open!

by #23 on Sep 14, 2008 3:35 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

huh?

he audibled (is that a word) well?

you do know that he called an audible on that horrible 3rd and 1 play at the end of the game, where he called a play that you should not call when the corner is playing tight coverage at the line of scrimmage.

visit the mindful mission

by big_lowitzki on Sep 14, 2008 3:41 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

horrible audible

to be honest i am not thrilled to see him audibling too much anyway.

by mike b on Sep 14, 2008 3:44 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

no, i didn't say that.

alot of fucking people around here need to learn how to read and look up some numbers before they start saying shit.

by mike b on Sep 14, 2008 3:44 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

everyone just

picks one little sentence out of a broad statement and does a very good job of twisting it around. it is really a talented group we have here.

by lopey986 on Sep 14, 2008 6:02 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I wonder if Hester will ever return for a touchdown again

They are after him and avoid him so much… so he needs to really step in up in the receiver slot.

"This balls got a chaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaannce, GONE!" - Pat Hughes

by SouthsideCUBSfan on Sep 14, 2008 1:32 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Once he starts making an impression as a receiver...

They will plan for him more as a receiver, and he will get a better opportunity.

Remember when we were kids and we mixed sodas together and called them "suicides"? It was OK though, because Dr. Pepper was always there.

by bs.uf15bosox9bears23 on Sep 14, 2008 1:34 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I'll bet everything I own on it he will. Maybe even today.

It seems like when things are really quiet with him, all of the sudden he breaks one. Mark my words.

Kick it to me... I'm open!

by #23 on Sep 14, 2008 1:34 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

As long as he doesn't

Try to force it like last week.

Fire Angelo!!

by GallopingGhost on Sep 14, 2008 1:36 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I just would like Olsen to get SOMETHING...

…to take away the negative points he’s giving me on fantasy.

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by cwyers on Sep 14, 2008 1:36 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Yikes, I already dumped him.

Too many balls being spread around. I don’t see him getting regular points.

Kick it to me... I'm open!

by #23 on Sep 14, 2008 1:38 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

ok there it is

someone playing the bears gane to their fantasy pleasure

by DaNate23 on Sep 14, 2008 1:37 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

olsen a dud

with the fumble.

bears team has made just as many stupid penalties.

by mike b on Sep 14, 2008 1:40 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

you joking?

penalties 8 8
Penalty Yards 56 40

by mike b on Sep 14, 2008 1:44 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Hmm....I thought they had more

Must just be watching Jake.

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by ChiFan13 on Sep 14, 2008 1:44 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Vikes are winning 12-0 and Peterson has

17 carries – 126 yards and 7.4 avg

Kick it to me... I'm open!

by #23 on Sep 14, 2008 1:42 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Rec'd and +1

Biggest understatement of the season, so far

Remember when we were kids and we mixed sodas together and called them "suicides"? It was OK though, because Dr. Pepper was always there.

by bs.uf15bosox9bears23 on Sep 14, 2008 1:43 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Seriously

I think Longwell has a shot at Rob Bironas’ record from last season for kicks in a game.

Fire Angelo!!

by GallopingGhost on Sep 14, 2008 1:43 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

forte=stud

by tfrabotta on Sep 14, 2008 1:42 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

WCG told me

that Tavaris had something like 7 yards of passing?

Starting to think Minnesota might be overrated.

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by ChiFan13 on Sep 14, 2008 1:42 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

they're not overrated. they just have no qb

if favre was there they would be sick

by tempchad on Sep 14, 2008 1:43 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

i disagree. i don't think they are rated tat high

everyone knew that qb was a big question mark coming in

by tempchad on Sep 14, 2008 1:45 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

At the same time

All Tavaris has to do is be a game manager. 7 yards is not being a game manager, it’s being horrible.

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by ChiFan13 on Sep 14, 2008 1:47 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Thats gotta be

a catch by the Bears “#1 receiver”.

by dakoose on Sep 14, 2008 1:45 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Dammit... I can't find the game on ChannelSurfing.

The link leads to some Damon movie. F***

Remember when we were kids and we mixed sodas together and called them "suicides"? It was OK though, because Dr. Pepper was always there.

by bs.uf15bosox9bears23 on Sep 14, 2008 1:45 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

finally good kick.

by tfrabotta on Sep 14, 2008 1:45 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

We have

Just we have had to start most drives at the 11 and Olsen fumbled

by beardown on Sep 14, 2008 1:46 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

PEANUT!!!!!!!

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by ChiFan13 on Sep 14, 2008 1:47 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Get in the endzone I need the points!!!!!

Yeah Bears!!!!!!!!

Kick it to me... I'm open!

by #23 on Sep 14, 2008 1:48 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Come on Bears

Points off turnovers is what we do best!

Fire Angelo!!

by GallopingGhost on Sep 14, 2008 1:49 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Yeah Baby Peanut!!! now touchdown!!

by tfrabotta on Sep 14, 2008 1:49 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

TE time or the slip screen to forte

by tfrabotta on Sep 14, 2008 1:49 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

why didnt he reach over dfor the score??

by tfrabotta on Sep 14, 2008 1:50 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

We’re in!!

by tfrabotta on Sep 14, 2008 1:50 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Everyone had Carolina favored by 3 1/2

And the experts were mostly taking the Carolina and the points.

Kick it to me... I'm open!

by #23 on Sep 14, 2008 1:52 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Experts- shaky word

by tfrabotta on Sep 14, 2008 1:53 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

You wouldn't have picked the Colts last week?

I’m loving the start to the season, but I don’t know how many of us can honestly say we expected it.

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by cwyers on Sep 14, 2008 1:55 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

me 2

Kick it to me... I'm open!

by #23 on Sep 14, 2008 1:57 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Since they are usually in the media, true.

Remember when we were kids and we mixed sodas together and called them "suicides"? It was OK though, because Dr. Pepper was always there.

by bs.uf15bosox9bears23 on Sep 14, 2008 1:54 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Vegas gave them 3

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by #23 on Sep 14, 2008 1:55 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I said usually.

Remember when we were kids and we mixed sodas together and called them "suicides"? It was OK though, because Dr. Pepper was always there.

by bs.uf15bosox9bears23 on Sep 14, 2008 1:57 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Food!

Remember when we were kids and we mixed sodas together and called them "suicides"? It was OK though, because Dr. Pepper was always there.

by bs.uf15bosox9bears23 on Sep 14, 2008 1:54 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

lol

Robbie is having a good game

Kick it to me... I'm open!

by #23 on Sep 14, 2008 1:54 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Minnesota up by 15

Rough start for Indy

by beardown on Sep 14, 2008 1:56 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

They need a cookie.

Remember when we were kids and we mixed sodas together and called them "suicides"? It was OK though, because Dr. Pepper was always there.

by bs.uf15bosox9bears23 on Sep 14, 2008 1:57 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Whay is up with Vasher this year??

by tfrabotta on Sep 14, 2008 1:57 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

He's mad about the lack of returs he gets with Hester now back there.

Just kidding, IDK.

Remember when we were kids and we mixed sodas together and called them "suicides"? It was OK though, because Dr. Pepper was always there.

by bs.uf15bosox9bears23 on Sep 14, 2008 1:58 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Damn it

Let’s tackle someone!!

Fire Angelo!!

by GallopingGhost on Sep 14, 2008 1:58 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

God dammit

The one person I don’t want to see have a TD.

Wait, never mind. HAHAHAHA

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by ChiFan13 on Sep 14, 2008 1:58 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Come on not him!! he sucks

by tfrabotta on Sep 14, 2008 1:58 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Seems like it

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by ChiFan13 on Sep 14, 2008 1:59 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

He is due to drop a few today

by tfrabotta on Sep 14, 2008 1:59 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

He gave Grossman

a dirty look on that last drop

by beardown on Sep 14, 2008 2:00 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I love how Moose thought that anyone would believe...

…that a possession reciever with no speed was opposed to Grossman for anything but personal reasons.

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by cwyers on Sep 14, 2008 2:02 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

45?

Probably.

Remember when we were kids and we mixed sodas together and called them "suicides"? It was OK though, because Dr. Pepper was always there.

by bs.uf15bosox9bears23 on Sep 14, 2008 2:00 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

You had to know that

something illegal happened for Moose to pull off a play like that.

by dakoose on Sep 14, 2008 2:01 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

You have got to be f'n kidding me...

In Tampa, Fox is showing a PBR event over a football game.

Remember when we were kids and we mixed sodas together and called them "suicides"? It was OK though, because Dr. Pepper was always there.

by bs.uf15bosox9bears23 on Sep 14, 2008 2:01 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

It just sucks.

The NFL should do a huge PR move and allow people to watch their favorite team if they are moved because of military.

Remember when we were kids and we mixed sodas together and called them "suicides"? It was OK though, because Dr. Pepper was always there.

by bs.uf15bosox9bears23 on Sep 14, 2008 2:04 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

BOOM

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by ChiFan13 on Sep 14, 2008 2:01 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Wouldn't do any good

He’d just complain about the rule.

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by ChiFan13 on Sep 14, 2008 2:04 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Or lick his fingers at them!

Remember when we were kids and we mixed sodas together and called them "suicides"? It was OK though, because Dr. Pepper was always there.

by bs.uf15bosox9bears23 on Sep 14, 2008 2:06 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

That was a

juicy hit by our linebackers.

by dakoose on Sep 14, 2008 2:01 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

concussion time,,

by tfrabotta on Sep 14, 2008 2:01 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Thank you

Kick it to me... I'm open!

by #23 on Sep 14, 2008 2:03 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

BIGGER!

Remember when we were kids and we mixed sodas together and called them "suicides"? It was OK though, because Dr. Pepper was always there.

by bs.uf15bosox9bears23 on Sep 14, 2008 2:04 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

How many fingers brotha!!

by tfrabotta on Sep 14, 2008 2:02 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Briggs is gonna

be in Delhomme’s dreams tonight!!

by dakoose on Sep 14, 2008 2:04 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Or right now.

How hard did he get hit?

Remember when we were kids and we mixed sodas together and called them "suicides"? It was OK though, because Dr. Pepper was always there.

by bs.uf15bosox9bears23 on Sep 14, 2008 2:05 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

almost decapitated

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by RightFieldSucks on Sep 14, 2008 2:07 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

SEC! SEC! SEC!

Remember when we were kids and we mixed sodas together and called them "suicides"? It was OK though, because Dr. Pepper was always there.

by bs.uf15bosox9bears23 on Sep 14, 2008 2:05 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Anyone over at Chads chat?

Wow, right now, what a whiner Del Homme is.

I'm not so mean. I wouldn't ever go out to hurt anybody deliberately - unless it was, you know, important, like a league game or something. - Dick Butkus

by iowaBear on Sep 14, 2008 2:05 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

carolina bailing us out

tighten up d.

lets get a drive o.

by mike b on Sep 14, 2008 2:06 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

WTF

WTF WTF WTF

by dakoose on Sep 14, 2008 2:07 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

What the hell Olsen....

Are you kidding?

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by ChiFan13 on Sep 14, 2008 2:07 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

c'mon, twice?

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by RightFieldSucks on Sep 14, 2008 2:08 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yeah he is so good we got a 6th rd pick for him..

by tfrabotta on Sep 14, 2008 2:08 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

5

Kick it to me... I'm open!

by #23 on Sep 14, 2008 2:09 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Let’s D up and get a stop!

by tfrabotta on Sep 14, 2008 2:10 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

This TD is

all on Greg Olsen.

by dakoose on Sep 14, 2008 2:11 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Where the hell is Urlacher??

by tfrabotta on Sep 14, 2008 2:11 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Oh well

Now we need the O to get goin

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by ChiFan13 on Sep 14, 2008 2:11 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Crap, Hester.

Sure hope he can run close to full speed without breathing hard. It hurts like hell with broken/cracked ribs.

Remember when we were kids and we mixed sodas together and called them "suicides"? It was OK though, because Dr. Pepper was always there.

by bs.uf15bosox9bears23 on Sep 14, 2008 2:11 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

At least now

They will kick to us.

Fire Angelo!!

by GallopingGhost on Sep 14, 2008 2:12 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Now we get to see our backups

Let’s go D-Man

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by ChiFan13 on Sep 14, 2008 2:12 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Who's back there now?

Bennett, Wolfe?

Remember when we were kids and we mixed sodas together and called them "suicides"? It was OK though, because Dr. Pepper was always there.

by bs.uf15bosox9bears23 on Sep 14, 2008 2:13 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Manning was

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by ChiFan13 on Sep 14, 2008 2:13 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Let's put Adwelae back to return.

Remember when we were kids and we mixed sodas together and called them "suicides"? It was OK though, because Dr. Pepper was always there.

by bs.uf15bosox9bears23 on Sep 14, 2008 2:13 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Just switching in from Stampede Blue...Is it true?

Is it true that Hester is hurt? Say it ain;t so!!

May the wind be always at your back, and may your placekicker have icewater in his veins.

by juperee on Sep 14, 2008 2:13 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Rib problem

He’s out for the game, and they’re checking him out now.

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by ChiFan13 on Sep 14, 2008 2:14 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Thanks. Let's hope it's no big deal

Hester’s part of why we love da football

May the wind be always at your back, and may your placekicker have icewater in his veins.

by juperee on Sep 14, 2008 2:15 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Thanks bro. Hopefully everything's ok

What’s goin on with your boys?

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by ChiFan13 on Sep 14, 2008 2:17 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Hester

How did he get hurt?

On Wisconsin!

by Looney_Bucky on Sep 14, 2008 2:13 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Rex?

Uribe whispered, "My precious child, I love you and will never leave you, never, ever, during your trials and testings. When you saw only one set of footprints, It was then that I carried you."

by thecip on Sep 14, 2008 2:16 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I can't follow this.

Remember when we were kids and we mixed sodas together and called them "suicides"? It was OK though, because Dr. Pepper was always there.

by bs.uf15bosox9bears23 on Sep 14, 2008 2:16 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

rex is a dragon.

little hands

Uribe whispered, "My precious child, I love you and will never leave you, never, ever, during your trials and testings. When you saw only one set of footprints, It was then that I carried you."

by thecip on Sep 14, 2008 2:17 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Oh!!!

Remember when we were kids and we mixed sodas together and called them "suicides"? It was OK though, because Dr. Pepper was always there.

by bs.uf15bosox9bears23 on Sep 14, 2008 2:17 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

my buddy has the shirt

classic

Uribe whispered, "My precious child, I love you and will never leave you, never, ever, during your trials and testings. When you saw only one set of footprints, It was then that I carried you."

by thecip on Sep 14, 2008 2:20 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

link

KSK

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by RightFieldSucks on Sep 14, 2008 2:21 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

one of the funniest things ive ever read

Uribe whispered, "My precious child, I love you and will never leave you, never, ever, during your trials and testings. When you saw only one set of footprints, It was then that I carried you."

by thecip on Sep 14, 2008 2:19 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Okay, I have to do homework.

Be back later.

Remember when we were kids and we mixed sodas together and called them "suicides"? It was OK though, because Dr. Pepper was always there.

by bs.uf15bosox9bears23 on Sep 14, 2008 2:18 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Homework's overrated

Do it after the game

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by ChiFan13 on Sep 14, 2008 2:19 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Now thats a

real man’s punt.

by dakoose on Sep 14, 2008 2:21 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

we need some field position to get us going

by tfrabotta on Sep 14, 2008 2:21 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

We need to put someone back there besides Vasher

Vasher is our corner, and D-Manning doesn’t play, so why not put him back there?

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by ChiFan13 on Sep 14, 2008 2:21 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

San Francisco 49ers would disagree

remember whose record Hester broke vs. New York?

by tempchad on Sep 14, 2008 2:22 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I think it's more because Vashar is a much more important...

…and much more expensive piece of the puzzle these days. Part of the reason Manning was drafted was because of his supposed return skillzzzzz.

by tyger1147 on Sep 14, 2008 2:23 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Exactly.

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by ChiFan13 on Sep 14, 2008 2:25 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Waterloo iowa

Maybe four or five hours away.

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by ChiFan13 on Sep 14, 2008 2:30 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Ahh.. yep.

Been there for wrestling when I was younger. My mom is from around Independence. And we’re huge Hawkeye fans.

by tyger1147 on Sep 14, 2008 2:31 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

cool, cool

not often, but who knows? if something gets planned, i will

by tyger1147 on Sep 14, 2008 2:45 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

He ran out bounds and clutched his side.

They say it may be a rib or abdominal injury. He went off on a cart and looked like he was in lots of pain. No hit though.

Kick it to me... I'm open!

by #23 on Sep 14, 2008 2:25 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

At work.

And in Omaha, I don’t think it’s on broadcast and I don’t watch enough TV for cable.

by tyger1147 on Sep 14, 2008 2:26 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

we need a good offensive drive here

burn clock, rest d, and get at least 3 points!!!!!

by tempchad on Sep 14, 2008 2:21 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Come on Offense

Lets go neckbeard! Lets look for the tight ends and HOLD ONTO THE BALL OLSON!!

Fire Angelo!!

by GallopingGhost on Sep 14, 2008 2:22 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

where is clark??

by tfrabotta on Sep 14, 2008 2:24 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

How about the screen pass to forte

by tfrabotta on Sep 14, 2008 2:23 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

How about a 4 yard pass?

to a “wide receiver”?

by tyger1147 on Sep 14, 2008 2:24 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

The Bears

need to roll up their shirts and kick some ass.

by dakoose on Sep 14, 2008 2:24 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

man

nice to see a bears runningback bounce one outside for the first time since TJ.

too bad that got called back, fucking hell.

by lopey986 on Sep 14, 2008 2:26 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Jeez

There are flags on every damn play.

by dakoose on Sep 14, 2008 2:26 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Come on quit holding!!!!

Kick it to me... I'm open!

by #23 on Sep 14, 2008 2:26 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

stupid hold

without it we still get 5 or 6

by tempchad on Sep 14, 2008 2:26 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

he has nothing on Rex on the deep ball..

by tfrabotta on Sep 14, 2008 2:27 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

We have

no playmaking receivers. It doesn’t help that Orton throws an ugky deep ball

by dakoose on Sep 14, 2008 2:27 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Sharp huh! He can't throw deep very well.

He has been throwing deep to guys that aren’t open.

Kick it to me... I'm open!

by #23 on Sep 14, 2008 2:27 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

wow

someone tell orton to quit throwing the ball 20+ yards because it is never even close.

by lopey986 on Sep 14, 2008 2:27 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

I'm seriously wondering what he's trying to accomplish with these throws.

He’s not going to get the defense to backup showcasing his arm like this. He’s not going to hit any recievers throwing like this. He could throw a pick throwing like this.

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by cwyers on Sep 14, 2008 2:29 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

why is he afraid to throw in the middle of the field

by tfrabotta on Sep 14, 2008 2:28 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

we need a big play.

sack and fumble or a pick.

i don’t like what is brewing right now

by tempchad on Sep 14, 2008 2:28 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Well, at least they're ahead.

Allow two or three first downs to the Panthers, make them punt. Get one first down, punt.

Repeat.

Game over.

by tyger1147 on Sep 14, 2008 2:30 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Sure, sure.

Easier than a big play, in my opinion.

The offense has had the ball for 51 plays. The Panthers have only run 41. The defense should be rested enough.

by tyger1147 on Sep 14, 2008 2:33 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

are you watching this second half here?

They are starting to tire and offense has gone stagnant

by tempchad on Sep 14, 2008 2:34 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

No, I'm not "watching."

I understand they’re tiring. I’m just saying they shouldn’t be worn out. I guess if they are… that’s a different question.

by tyger1147 on Sep 14, 2008 2:36 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I guess both things work, too.

I wanted them to limit the first downs, you wanted the big play. They kind of did both, so far. I just think that, being ahead, they don’t need to risk giviing up a big play to try to get a big play.

by tyger1147 on Sep 14, 2008 2:37 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

sacktoberfest

Uribe whispered, "My precious child, I love you and will never leave you, never, ever, during your trials and testings. When you saw only one set of footprints, It was then that I carried you."

by thecip on Sep 14, 2008 2:33 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Mr do it all

comes through again. idonije is a freak.

by dakoose on Sep 14, 2008 2:33 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

way to get the line of scrimmage back boys!

by tfrabotta on Sep 14, 2008 2:34 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

he has played

by tfrabotta on Sep 14, 2008 2:34 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

They want to make a name for Forte

Makes coaches and GM’s look good. Plus they are probably testing his stamina too. We really haven’t had many long drives this half to wear him out either.

Kick it to me... I'm open!

by #23 on Sep 14, 2008 2:35 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

another freakin penaly on a return!!

by tfrabotta on Sep 14, 2008 2:34 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Two things

1) Why can’t we make a return without a block in the back.

2) Why is Vasher returning kicks?

by beardown on Sep 14, 2008 2:36 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Two answers

1) McGowan is killing us

2) Hester’s hurt

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by ChiFan13 on Sep 14, 2008 2:37 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

They had Manning doing it all preseason

I hate to loose a starting DB on special teams

by beardown on Sep 14, 2008 2:39 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

B Mac is screwing up.

Kick it to me... I'm open!

by #23 on Sep 14, 2008 2:37 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

well

he is a damn good safety. i’m so glad we traded him for a sack of nickels.

by lopey986 on Sep 14, 2008 2:39 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

MY FUCKING GOD

Booker was wide open

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by ChiFan13 on Sep 14, 2008 2:38 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Man Orton, that was a TD

Kick it to me... I'm open!

by #23 on Sep 14, 2008 2:38 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

oh. my. god.

wide open and yet another massive overthrow. i’m fine with being a managing qb, but you gotta make those throws man.

by lopey986 on Sep 14, 2008 2:38 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Christ Almight Orton

Figure it out

I'M A MAN! I'M 22!

by ChiFan13 on Sep 14, 2008 2:39 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Figure what out?

It’s not like he’s misplaying it, he simply doesn’t have the arm to make the deep throws.

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by cwyers on Sep 14, 2008 2:40 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

No, he has the arm

He doesn’t have the accuracy

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by ChiFan13 on Sep 14, 2008 2:40 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

actually he is misplaying it.

when you OVERTHROW the guy that is a misplay. if he was consistently underthrowing him then you could make the claim that he doesn’t have the arm.

by lopey986 on Sep 14, 2008 2:40 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

He can't throw the deep ball accurately.

It looks to me like when he tries to throw the deep ball he just rears back and chucks it, and he can’t be very accurate with it.

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by cwyers on Sep 14, 2008 2:42 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Exactly.

Orton’s mechanics change, even if only a little, to get more oomph on the ball. That makes him less accurate.

by tyger1147 on Sep 14, 2008 2:43 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

It is a skill.

He can throw further than that. He needed to give it more loft so the receiver could time it. Orton just winds up and throws with no ability to judge distance.

Kick it to me... I'm open!

by #23 on Sep 14, 2008 2:41 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Matt Forte will get hurt this year.

Hopefully, it’s only for a game or two.

by tyger1147 on Sep 14, 2008 2:39 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

??

Just a hunch or what?

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by ChiFan13 on Sep 14, 2008 2:39 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Rookies just don't carry it that much.

They’re either limited by the coaching staff w/ the eye towards the future, or they get hurt because the workload (in addition to the actual hits) is just that much more than in college.

The last rookie RB to have as many carries as Forte is on pace for was LT in 2001. Sure, he might not. I’m just “going with the odds.” I

by tyger1147 on Sep 14, 2008 2:42 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

No, I think you're right

It was just an out-of-the-blue comment and so I was wondering if I had missed something.

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by ChiFan13 on Sep 14, 2008 2:44 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

How many calls

will come in on the radio tomorrow for Caleb Heine?? Bores and Bernstien are gonna have a blast.

by dakoose on Sep 14, 2008 2:40 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

No way. Save him for next year. Orton stays he just is playing bad.

His audibles have been good though.

Kick it to me... I'm open!

by #23 on Sep 14, 2008 2:42 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

got to keep them out of the endzone

i don’t like our offense to come from behind

by tempchad on Sep 14, 2008 2:41 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

good god

mcgowan, you suck.

by lopey986 on Sep 14, 2008 2:42 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Bears have to play mistake free in order to win

Not easy to do esp. i fthe other team forces you to make them.

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by eswan9 on Sep 14, 2008 2:42 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

ouch

not good. i don’t like where this is going.

by lopey986 on Sep 14, 2008 2:43 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

We need a big play

Someone, anyone??! Urlacher has been too quiet. Brown needs to get a pick or something, Wale needs asack. Someone anyone, something!!

Fire Angelo!!

by GallopingGhost on Sep 14, 2008 2:43 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

This sucks.

This is why the offense blows. When you need it to make a play, they just can’t. Well, not yet, anyway.

by tyger1147 on Sep 14, 2008 2:44 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

yep

when the defense collapses and we actually need the offense to put one in the endzone it is going to be hard to do because they are so accustomed to managing the ball.

by lopey986 on Sep 14, 2008 2:45 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

our offense needs the lead

This offense cannot play from behind, I will believe that until they prove me wrong.

Fire Angelo!!

by GallopingGhost on Sep 14, 2008 2:45 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Our linebackers are nowhere to be found today

by tfrabotta on Sep 14, 2008 2:46 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

shit

manning was hauling ass on that return. i thought he had a chance for a second.

by lopey986 on Sep 14, 2008 2:46 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

well, i never wish injury on anyone...

but i’m not really going to miss mcgowan wiffing on tackles for the rest of the game.

by lopey986 on Sep 14, 2008 2:46 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

why couldn’t mcgowan have gotten hurt in the first quarter, would have saved us 30 yards in penalties.

by tfrabotta on Sep 14, 2008 2:47 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

no choice really.

gotta hope for a lot of openings in the underneath routes for orton to use.

by lopey986 on Sep 14, 2008 2:48 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Expect them to stack the box.

"Chicago baseball fans, who are composites of scar tissue and mortifying memories..." - George F. Will

by eswan9 on Sep 14, 2008 2:49 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Plus maybe we can set up some draw plays

Maybe right here on 3rd down.

Fire Angelo!!

by GallopingGhost on Sep 14, 2008 2:50 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

damn

1/8 in 15+ yard situations.

jesus, another open man and another overthrow. this is getting absurd.

by lopey986 on Sep 14, 2008 2:49 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

He hasn't even been close.

Kick it to me... I'm open!

by #23 on Sep 14, 2008 2:51 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Good thing they didn't draft.

We needed to see if Orton or Grossman could be the answer.

by tyger1147 on Sep 14, 2008 2:51 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

psh

not like a rookie qb would offer more at this point anyway.

by lopey986 on Sep 14, 2008 2:51 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

well...

i take that back considering flacco and ryan both played pretty well in their debuts.

by lopey986 on Sep 14, 2008 2:52 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Well, it should NEVER have been about this year.

It’s the Kirk Barton/Fred Miller thing. This team might have been in contention to make the playoffs, ubut not to win the Super Bowl. This year should have been preparing for the next year. Now, they’ll either have to spend a boatload of money, trade draft picks to get an established QB, or make next year the “rebuilding year”.

by tyger1147 on Sep 14, 2008 2:54 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

the problem is

this team is getting old, fast, we need to win now while we still have guys like kreutz, urlacher, brown, ogun.

by lopey986 on Sep 14, 2008 2:55 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

A good QB would have been better than Orton/Grossman next year.

And if you don’t think so, trade them for something. Or don’t. Whatever. This was a rebuilding year. Everything they did this off-season, except get a competent QB and now signing Fred Miller, screams that.

by tyger1147 on Sep 14, 2008 2:57 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

competent qbs

do not grow on trees. we have nothing that we could use to trade for one either.

and the fred miller signing is fine, he is here for depth and not to start, i have no real problem with that.

by lopey986 on Sep 14, 2008 2:58 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

well there's a flag.

no? no intentional grounding?

by lopey986 on Sep 14, 2008 2:50 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

horrible call

threw off his back foot

by tempchad on Sep 14, 2008 2:50 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

i don't expect much from you, orton...

but you need to be able to make some of the necessary throws that an nfl qb makes. like something over 15 yards.

by lopey986 on Sep 14, 2008 2:50 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Better late than never, Maynard

I'm not so mean. I wouldn't ever go out to hurt anybody deliberately - unless it was, you know, important, like a league game or something. - Dick Butkus

by iowaBear on Sep 14, 2008 2:52 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

This is such bullshit - we were dominating this game

And the O just failed us

I'm not so mean. I wouldn't ever go out to hurt anybody deliberately - unless it was, you know, important, like a league game or something. - Dick Butkus

by iowaBear on Sep 14, 2008 2:52 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Here's a joke to be told...

…Orton’s arm is so weak that: When it’s 3rd down, 3 minutes left, his team losing, his throws get confused for intentional grounding.

HAHHAHAHAHAHAH

by tyger1147 on Sep 14, 2008 2:52 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

We knew this about Orton already.

"Chicago baseball fans, who are composites of scar tissue and mortifying memories..." - George F. Will

by eswan9 on Sep 14, 2008 2:54 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

SCOREBOARD UPDATE, brought to you by a pissed ChiFan13

Lions 25 – Packers 24 in the fourth

I'M A MAN! I'M 22!

by ChiFan13 on Sep 14, 2008 2:53 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

it's less to do with him and more to do with

the bears tired d cause the offense can’t hold the ball

by tempchad on Sep 14, 2008 2:55 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

my internet feed went out

can anyone give real time PBP?

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by RightFieldSucks on Sep 14, 2008 2:55 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

If we can't get stop

Then game 1 we look like 05-06 Bears and game 2 looks more like 07 bears w/ slightyl better D

Fire Angelo!!

by GallopingGhost on Sep 14, 2008 2:55 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

In game 1 we played mistake free

Today, Olsen lost 2 fumbles, penalties have killed us, and Orton…well nuff said.

"Chicago baseball fans, who are composites of scar tissue and mortifying memories..." - George F. Will

by eswan9 on Sep 14, 2008 2:57 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Thanks, my internet feed is soo 2 minutes ago

I'm not so mean. I wouldn't ever go out to hurt anybody deliberately - unless it was, you know, important, like a league game or something. - Dick Butkus

by iowaBear on Sep 14, 2008 2:56 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

this is where orton earns his paycheck.....

….or puts his job on the market

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by RightFieldSucks on Sep 14, 2008 2:56 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Decent field position

and all we need is a field goal…

Fire Angelo!!

by GallopingGhost on Sep 14, 2008 2:58 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

*money line

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by RightFieldSucks on Sep 14, 2008 2:58 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

ARE YOU KDDING ME?

Seriously? That’s what you come up with, Ron?

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by ChiFan13 on Sep 14, 2008 2:58 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

horrible call

just run the fucking ball!

by tempchad on Sep 14, 2008 2:58 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Why the hell

did they pass there. Just shove it up the gut and take it to the 2 miunte warning.

by dakoose on Sep 14, 2008 2:59 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

what the hell kind of plays are we calling! get the first down!

by tfrabotta on Sep 14, 2008 2:59 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Plenty of goddamn time - why the hell aren't we running it?

I'm not so mean. I wouldn't ever go out to hurt anybody deliberately - unless it was, you know, important, like a league game or something. - Dick Butkus

by iowaBear on Sep 14, 2008 2:59 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Green Bay kicked a FG.

27-25, five plus minutes left.

by tyger1147 on Sep 14, 2008 2:59 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

seriously...run the BALL!!!

2 minute warning stops the clock, anyway

by guy incognito on Sep 14, 2008 3:00 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

heh.

justin gage had 60 yards and a td for a winning titans team today.

by lopey986 on Sep 14, 2008 3:00 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

game over!

WHAT A SHITTY CALL

by tempchad on Sep 14, 2008 3:01 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Fucking Ron Turner

needs to be fired tonight.

by Neifi Puppy on Sep 14, 2008 3:02 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

why would forte not get the ball

by tfrabotta on Sep 14, 2008 3:02 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

You know their playing in Milwaukee tonight and tomorrow, right?

And only playing the third game if they need to at the end of the season. Win tonight and tomorro wand they might take Houston out of it, getting two days rest after the season (since the Cubs essentially have it locked up).

by tyger1147 on Sep 14, 2008 3:04 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

their = they're

I almost typed their instead of they’re three times today but caught myself. What the hell?

by tyger1147 on Sep 14, 2008 3:04 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

did we not convert?

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by RightFieldSucks on Sep 14, 2008 3:02 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

WELL DONE RON TURNER

AS I MENTIONED LAST YEAR,

RON TURNER IS A GENIUS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1

I'm not so mean. I wouldn't ever go out to hurt anybody deliberately - unless it was, you know, important, like a league game or something. - Dick Butkus

by iowaBear on Sep 14, 2008 3:02 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Ron turner

should get pink slipped.

by dakoose on Sep 14, 2008 3:02 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

WOW

2nd and 1 and orton can’t pick it up. I want sexy rexy back

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by RightFieldSucks on Sep 14, 2008 3:03 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

haha

orton sitting on the sideline with his helmet on and his head down.

by lopey986 on Sep 14, 2008 3:03 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

is that funny

cause you’re not a bears fan?

by mike b on Sep 14, 2008 3:05 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Actually

I think he’s big_lowitzki in cognito

--Torch

by torch on Sep 14, 2008 3:06 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

it's funny

because he played like shit all day long and now he is over there having a damn pity party for himself.

by lopey986 on Sep 14, 2008 3:09 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Guinness commercial dude sez Ron Turner is:

BRILLIANT!

I'm not so mean. I wouldn't ever go out to hurt anybody deliberately - unless it was, you know, important, like a league game or something. - Dick Butkus

by iowaBear on Sep 14, 2008 3:03 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Handed to McKie on 4th

Didn’t make it.
Victory formation for Carolina

--Torch

by torch on Sep 14, 2008 3:05 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

good blocking guys

way to fucking give up.

indy looking great on the road.

by mike b on Sep 14, 2008 3:06 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

This one hurts

Lets just hope next week will go better.

Fire Angelo!!

by GallopingGhost on Sep 14, 2008 3:07 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Terrible

We totally gave away this game.
Maynard and Olsen blew it.

On Wisconsin!

by Looney_Bucky on Sep 14, 2008 3:08 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

don't forget

mcgowan. love all those blocks in the back.

by lopey986 on Sep 14, 2008 3:09 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

maynard?

how about the qb who can’t hit an open receiver for six?

by mike b on Sep 14, 2008 3:09 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Seriously?

Brutal.

1. Why no play action EVER?
2. The second half play calling in general was horrible. We sure don’t do a lot of running during critical times for a team that gets off the bus running.
3. Another dig at coaches, so many penalties especially on punt returns.

by FAQ on Sep 14, 2008 3:09 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

oh man

jason campbell threw such a perfect deep ball to santana moss. god it must be weird to have a qb who can do that.

by lopey986 on Sep 14, 2008 3:10 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

yea...

way to hit the open man, Orton. if i hear “and he over threw him” one more time today I’ll freak out.

by sirus19x on Sep 14, 2008 3:11 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Are you series?

WR screen pass on 3 and 1? Then not giving the ball to your best offensive player when the game is on the line? How about some play action or bootlegs?

by sirus19x on Sep 14, 2008 3:10 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Right before the two-minute warning

Dumb call.

"I don't think anybody's paying attention to the Cubs." - Prince Fielder

by jasoniniowa on Sep 14, 2008 3:12 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Maynard

Maynard had only one good punt. The ones where we were backed up in the endzone were horrible.

On Wisconsin!

by Looney_Bucky on Sep 14, 2008 3:10 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

it is a little difficult to punt

when you are constantly backed into your own endzone.

by lopey986 on Sep 14, 2008 3:10 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

i'm not trying to make excuses for him

but there are plenty of other scapegoats i’d hang the blame on before maynard.

by lopey986 on Sep 14, 2008 3:11 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Panthers Punter

the panthers punter was way better

On Wisconsin!

by Looney_Bucky on Sep 14, 2008 3:11 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Dude he had two short punts that weren't even horrible.

Your punter is not the reason you lose games.

Kick it to me... I'm open!

by #23 on Sep 14, 2008 3:14 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

by the way

what exactly happened with hester? i saw him holding his ribs after the one return where he went out of bounds after like 10 yards. but i don’t recall a hit getting laid on him or anything and he looked like he was dizzy and sick when they were putting him on the cart.

by lopey986 on Sep 14, 2008 3:14 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

green bay

looking like the team to beat in the division again.

by lopey986 on Sep 14, 2008 3:14 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

orton...

… was 1 for 9 on plays 15 yards or more.

That is not going to lose games. And that is not even “managing games.”

Orton is not a good quarterback.

visit the mindful mission

by big_lowitzki on Sep 14, 2008 3:16 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Sorry big_low

Rex would’ve thrown 5 INT’s in the past two games.

I'M A MAN! I'M 22!

by ChiFan13 on Sep 14, 2008 3:17 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

it's really a choice of two evils

either you go with orton, who can dink and dunk all day long and do nothing on the offense or you go with grossman who can air it out and make some exciting plays but he is going to make some mistakes that could kill you too.

the thing is, orton is making a lot of mistakes for a guy who is supposed to manage the game. hell, gamble dropped 2 picks today that hit him right in the hands.

by lopey986 on Sep 14, 2008 3:18 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

huh?

since when does Rex average 2.5 ints/game?

Sorry, but you are making stuff up.

visit the mindful mission

by big_lowitzki on Sep 14, 2008 3:19 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

wasn't it shown

that orton actually averages more turnovers per offensive play than grossman? or at least a very similar amount.

by lopey986 on Sep 14, 2008 3:20 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

yea...

… I posted that awhile back.

visit the mindful mission

by big_lowitzki on Sep 14, 2008 3:20 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

yeah, but most of his history was a first year QB so it is a little unfair.

Grossman didn’t play till his 3rd year.

Kick it to me... I'm open!

by #23 on Sep 14, 2008 3:21 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

hmm...

so should we arbitrarily throw out Grossman’s bad games too?

visit the mindful mission

by big_lowitzki on Sep 14, 2008 3:23 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

oh...

… and Orton has had at LEAST 3 interceptions dropped in the last two games.

visit the mindful mission

by big_lowitzki on Sep 14, 2008 3:20 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Oh well...

I don’t recall if those go down as INT’s….nope….no they don’t.

I'M A MAN! I'M 22!

by ChiFan13 on Sep 14, 2008 3:22 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

that is not the point

and you know it.

Orton has gotten lucky so far with his bad throws. He has had at least three int’s just dropped.

And you want to make stuff up and pretend that Rex throws 2.5 picks/game, which is complete and utter BS. But don’t let facts get in the way of reality.

visit the mindful mission

by big_lowitzki on Sep 14, 2008 3:26 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

grossman
Orton has gotten lucky so far with his bad throws.

was the EXACT same way in 06.

by mike b on Sep 14, 2008 3:27 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Big_low, go out and get a prescription for Vicadin

You need it.

What I was doing in saying that Rex would’ve thrown 5 INT’s these past two games is exaggerating a true point. Rex struggles with turnovers. Bottom line: Orton doesn’t have any. None. Zip.

You tell everyone else not to cherry pick, but you do the same with your Rex – Orton argument. If it means that much to you, you win. Bully for you.

I'M A MAN! I'M 22!

by ChiFan13 on Sep 14, 2008 3:43 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

awesome
Big_low, go out and get a prescription for Vicadin You need it.

When you can’t respond to actual arguments, respond with personal attacks. Classy.

Rex struggles with turnovers.

Umm… do does Orton. Go look it up.

You tell everyone else not to cherry pick, but you do the same with your Rex – Orton argument.

What did I cherry pick?

visit the mindful mission

by big_lowitzki on Sep 14, 2008 3:45 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Are you trying to say

Grossman throws a better interception because his don’t get dropped?

by beardown on Sep 14, 2008 3:24 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

no...

… i am saying that Orton is vastly overrated around here, and makes a lot of mistakes, and he has gotten very lucky so far this year.

visit the mindful mission

by big_lowitzki on Sep 14, 2008 3:26 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

yea...

… you are telling me that by making things up that don’t align with reality. And you are ignoring Orton’s many deficiencies.

Look… Rex Grossman is not and will not be a great quarterback. But I still strongly believe that he is a better option than Orton.

Neither of them take care of the ball very well, and Grossman has the ability to actually make plays.

visit the mindful mission

by big_lowitzki on Sep 14, 2008 3:43 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

No, I know Orton struggles

We don’t need a gunslinger….we need a game manager.

Today highlighted Orton’s weaknesses (and Rex’s strengths coincidentally). I know Orton struggles with accuracy on the long ball. But besides this supposed audible he made on the 3rd-and-one, he didn’t do anything to lose us this game, did he?

I'M A MAN! I'M 22!

by ChiFan13 on Sep 14, 2008 3:46 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

game manager

Didn’t I already show a couple of weeks ago that the “game manager” thing is BS with Orton?

He fumbles and throws INTs at a similar, or even greater, rate as Grossman does.

Didn’t do anything to lose the game? Well, other than missing wide open receivers, sure.

visit the mindful mission

by big_lowitzki on Sep 14, 2008 3:48 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Big low, seriously bro. I’ll go through this with you so you don’t get confused.

How many fumbles or INT’s has Orton lost this year? Not maybes, not kinda sorta, but definite fumbles or INT’s. Get back to me.

I'M A MAN! I'M 22!

by ChiFan13 on Sep 14, 2008 3:49 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

not confused

But maybe you should read up on this things called sample sizes sometime. It would be good for you.

Don’t get me wrong – Orton hasn’t had any turnovers this year. That is good. He also had gotten lucky, which you choose to ignore. Oh well.

But he does not have a good history of “game managing.” I know that you don’t like to actually deal with facts though, so don’t let that get in the way of what you want to believe.

visit the mindful mission

by big_lowitzki on Sep 14, 2008 3:55 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I understand what you're saying

But you’re willing to toss Orton aside right now for Rex. Then, when Rex goes south, would you go to Hanie?

My definition of game managing is to not hurt the team with any sort of turnovers. He’s accomplishing that.

“I know that you don’t like to actually deal with facts though, so don’t let that get in the way of what you want to believe.”

AFTER you wrote:

“When you can’t respond to actual arguments, respond with personal attacks. Classy.”

Whoops…..

I'M A MAN! I'M 22!

by ChiFan13 on Sep 14, 2008 4:00 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

orton

is doing us no favors, he is makign the same bad decision frossman always had. IT’S JUST A MATTER OF TIME.

like it was in 06.

i understand tha almost doesn’t count, but being aware of that shit is how you make changes ahead of time, insead of the lovie smith way when its too late.

by mike b on Sep 14, 2008 4:02 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

christ

“making the same bad decisions grossman did.”

also, i think grossman’s deep ball ability is highly exaggerated. although still better than orton, most likely.

by mike b on Sep 14, 2008 4:05 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I totally understand that

My overarching point was that personally, I think it would not be smart to go switch to Rex right now. Orton may have had a bad game, and to switch things up after every game wouldn’t be good for the team or the season.

Rex and Kyle aren’t good QB’s, we know that. But what if Rex gets in and sucks it up? Now we’ve shot both of their confidence, and our season will quickly go down the drain.

I'M A MAN! I'M 22!

by ChiFan13 on Sep 14, 2008 4:08 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

switching back and forth

is not a good idea.

but as far as shooting their confidence, i am sick of hearing that. come out and play well and you’ll have al the confidence you need. worked for grossman in 06, he wasn’t good at times but he never lost his confidence, and to be honest i would bet he still hasn’t.

by mike b on Sep 14, 2008 4:13 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Oh, I think Rex's is gone

He got booed pretty loudly during the last couple preseason games.

Right now we have two below-average QB’s. I don’t want them to be any worse, because all they are is a band-aid for this season. So, I’d rather be sensitive to their widdle feewings (even though it makes me want to gag) and hopefully get some good play out of them.

I'M A MAN! I'M 22!

by ChiFan13 on Sep 14, 2008 4:21 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

yup...
"I know that you don’t like to actually deal with facts though, so don’t let that get in the way of what you want to believe."
AFTER you wrote:
"When you can’t respond to actual arguments, respond with personal attacks. Classy."
Whoops…..

Yup… because somehow pointing out how you are batantly ignoring the facts is the same as telling someone they should take “Vicadin” [sic].

visit the mindful mission

by big_lowitzki on Sep 14, 2008 4:28 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

This is why I told you that you should

You’re getting too worked up about it.

You’re right: Rex is a better statistical quarterback, which means nothing because statistics can be warped to fit whatever standards a person gives it. Rex is just a God. Let’s start Rex.

I'M A MAN! I'M 22!

by ChiFan13 on Sep 14, 2008 4:34 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Field position

The panthers won this game because they had better field position especially in the second half. The punter is largely responsible for that.

On Wisconsin!

by Looney_Bucky on Sep 14, 2008 3:17 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

no game

has ever been won or lost because of a punter and this one is no different.

by lopey986 on Sep 14, 2008 3:18 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Dude you only punt when you can't move the ball.

How many points did our offense score? We got 7 from the block, and 3 points from the pick.

Kick it to me... I'm open!

by #23 on Sep 14, 2008 3:19 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

first...

… the Panthers punter was excellent. But Maynard was not bad.

This loss had almost NOTHING to do with Maynard.

visit the mindful mission

by big_lowitzki on Sep 14, 2008 3:21 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

How about Olsen costing us 10 points?

That is the loss coupled with Orton not being able to throw the ball over 5 yards.

Kick it to me... I'm open!

by #23 on Sep 14, 2008 3:23 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

alright

as much fun as it is to argue grossman/orton all day long, i’m gonna go cook some dinner. for what it’s worth, i wish they’d just send grossman out there and tell him to have fun and play some football and see what happenes. maybe if he could relax a little bit he’d be fine.

by lopey986 on Sep 14, 2008 3:24 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

yaaaawn

of course you do,

grossman could throw 9 picks and you’d want him out there.

by mike b on Sep 14, 2008 3:25 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

nope

if he throws 9 picks i’ll call for his head just like everyone else. same way i’m calling for orton’s due to the fact that his inability to hit wide open receivers if they are more than 5 yards away from him cost us a game today.

by lopey986 on Sep 14, 2008 6:05 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

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