Chicago Bears VS. Carolina Panthers - 2nd Half Game Thread
by ChiFan13 on Sep 14, 2008 1:25 PM CDT
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Print1st half studs:
Matt Forte - Hasn't scored, but kept drives alive and milked the clock.
Kyle Orton - He gets it because he hasn't done anything to lose the game for us.
Brandon Lloyd - Slowly shaking the "best practice player" reputation.
1st half duds:
Brandon McGowan - Come on bro, two illegal blocks on ST? You're better than that.
Greg Olsen - Really only putting him here because no one else has been doing bad.
The "Here's your sign" award goes to:
.....Carolina's entire team. They've made a ton of stupid penalties.
The All-World complainer award goes to:
Jake Delhomme. Don't complain to the officials about penalties when your team can't figure it out. Anger's an ugly color on you, Jakey.
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Frist post in second half thread!!
Lets put some points on the board Bears!!
Fire Angelo!!
by Sam Householder on Sep 14, 2008 1:28 PM CDT reply actions
are you really 22?
So am I! Haha
"This balls got a chaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaannce, GONE!" - Pat Hughes
by SouthsideCUBSfan on Sep 14, 2008 1:33 PM CDT up reply actions
offense needs to step up
orton needs to get his head right, couple of forced balls that were not smart.
His deep throw was really bad and out of bounds too. He's not as sharp today.
Kick it to me... I'm open!
Not sharp?
He started 6/6
Fire Angelo!!
by Sam Householder on Sep 14, 2008 1:34 PM CDT up reply actions
He got bailed out on one by Lloyd and threw no passes over 5 yards.
That’s not real impressive.
Kick it to me... I'm open!
Let's see.
He threw it behind Davis in the endzone
Threw it in the ground on a screen to Davis
Behind Lloyd which bailed him out
Out of bands on the deep pass to I can’t remember who
A play that was forced to I think Llyod that had 2 defenders that both should have picked it off.
I would say not real sharp.
Kick it to me... I'm open!
shocking...
… an Orton deep throw really bad?
visit the mindful mission
by big_lowitzki on Sep 14, 2008 3:09 PM CDT up reply actions
i know
looked like every other part of grossman’s game.
yup...
… because Orton telegraphing that pass on 3rd and 1 was better than Grossman. Or Orton throwing the ball into the dirt a couple of plays earlier…
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by big_lowitzki on Sep 14, 2008 3:18 PM CDT up reply actions
better than what?
all the shit plays grossman has made in his career?
give me a break.
umm...
Orton, for the most part, has also been “shit” for most of his career.
But at least Grossman can win games for a team.
visit the mindful mission
by big_lowitzki on Sep 14, 2008 3:27 PM CDT up reply actions
he can?
suprised we didn’t start out 3-0 last year then
and i am even more suprised that we won a single game without him in 05.
how either one of you “i love this guy” groups can support either one of them is beyond me.
bs
I didnt say that he can win games by himself. I think that he can make plays that Orton simply cannot make.
I would have been much more confident with Rex in that final drive than Orton.
And I don’t love Grossman… I just think he is a better option than Orton.
visit the mindful mission
by big_lowitzki on Sep 14, 2008 3:31 PM CDT up reply actions
no
I didnt say that he can win games by himself. I think that he can make plays that Orton simply cannot make.
you said he can win games, which both shitty guys have,
and...
… i clarified what i meant, did I not?
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by big_lowitzki on Sep 14, 2008 3:35 PM CDT up reply actions
what's the point
of picking out two bad plays by one qb and comparing it to another who has made the same amount of shit mistakes if not more? no matter what the name is.
fair enough
I used two examples about how Orton really is not good.
Again, I just think that Rex was a better option, is a better option, and will continue to be a better option.
visit the mindful mission
by big_lowitzki on Sep 14, 2008 3:35 PM CDT up reply actions
Dude are you going to tell me Orton didn't suck today?
I’m not saying Rex vs. Kyle, but you’re saying only 2 bad plays. Come on he was horrible today. He audibled well and was lucky not to get picked if you can call that a talent. He couldn’t make a play all day!!!
Kick it to me... I'm open!
huh?
he audibled (is that a word) well?
you do know that he called an audible on that horrible 3rd and 1 play at the end of the game, where he called a play that you should not call when the corner is playing tight coverage at the line of scrimmage.
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by big_lowitzki on Sep 14, 2008 3:41 PM CDT up reply actions
horrible audible
to be honest i am not thrilled to see him audibling too much anyway.
no, i didn't say that.
alot of fucking people around here need to learn how to read and look up some numbers before they start saying shit.
everyone just
picks one little sentence out of a broad statement and does a very good job of twisting it around. it is really a talented group we have here.
I wonder if Hester will ever return for a touchdown again
They are after him and avoid him so much… so he needs to really step in up in the receiver slot.
"This balls got a chaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaannce, GONE!" - Pat Hughes
by SouthsideCUBSfan on Sep 14, 2008 1:32 PM CDT reply actions
Once he starts making an impression as a receiver...
They will plan for him more as a receiver, and he will get a better opportunity.
Remember when we were kids and we mixed sodas together and called them "suicides"? It was OK though, because Dr. Pepper was always there.
I'll bet everything I own on it he will. Maybe even today.
It seems like when things are really quiet with him, all of the sudden he breaks one. Mark my words.
Kick it to me... I'm open!
As long as he doesn't
Try to force it like last week.
Fire Angelo!!
by Sam Householder on Sep 14, 2008 1:36 PM CDT up reply actions
I just would like Olsen to get SOMETHING...
…to take away the negative points he’s giving me on fantasy.
Yikes, I already dumped him.
Too many balls being spread around. I don’t see him getting regular points.
Kick it to me... I'm open!
ok there it is
someone playing the bears gane to their fantasy pleasure
by DaNate23 on Sep 14, 2008 1:37 PM CDT reply actions
olsen a dud
with the fumble.
bears team has made just as many stupid penalties.
you joking?
penalties 8 8
Penalty Yards 56 40
Vikes are winning 12-0 and Peterson has
17 carries – 126 yards and 7.4 avg
Kick it to me... I'm open!
Rec'd and +1
Biggest understatement of the season, so far
Remember when we were kids and we mixed sodas together and called them "suicides"? It was OK though, because Dr. Pepper was always there.
Seriously
I think Longwell has a shot at Rob Bironas’ record from last season for kicks in a game.
Fire Angelo!!
by Sam Householder on Sep 14, 2008 1:43 PM CDT up reply actions
WCG told me
that Tavaris had something like 7 yards of passing?
Starting to think Minnesota might be overrated.
I'M A MAN! I'M 22!
they're not overrated. they just have no qb
if favre was there they would be sick
i disagree. i don't think they are rated tat high
everyone knew that qb was a big question mark coming in
At the same time
All Tavaris has to do is be a game manager. 7 yards is not being a game manager, it’s being horrible.
I'M A MAN! I'M 22!
Thats gotta be
a catch by the Bears “#1 receiver”.
Dammit... I can't find the game on ChannelSurfing.
The link leads to some Damon movie. F***
Remember when we were kids and we mixed sodas together and called them "suicides"? It was OK though, because Dr. Pepper was always there.
This was not the way to start the second half
Fire Angelo!!
by Sam Householder on Sep 14, 2008 1:46 PM CDT reply actions
Berrian has no catches for the Vikings
Looks like he really got himself in a better situation
Fire Angelo!!
by Sam Householder on Sep 14, 2008 1:48 PM CDT reply actions
Kevin payne squeezed that out like a zit!
by tempchad on Sep 14, 2008 1:48 PM CDT reply actions 1 recs
Come on Bears
Points off turnovers is what we do best!
Fire Angelo!!
by Sam Householder on Sep 14, 2008 1:49 PM CDT reply actions
Everyone had Carolina favored by 3 1/2
And the experts were mostly taking the Carolina and the points.
Kick it to me... I'm open!
You wouldn't have picked the Colts last week?
I’m loving the start to the season, but I don’t know how many of us can honestly say we expected it.
Since they are usually in the media, true.
Remember when we were kids and we mixed sodas together and called them "suicides"? It was OK though, because Dr. Pepper was always there.
I said usually.
Remember when we were kids and we mixed sodas together and called them "suicides"? It was OK though, because Dr. Pepper was always there.
Looks like I'm gonna win the bet I made with my buddy. That's good news....means I can eat tonight. lol
I'M A MAN! I'M 22!
looks like...
… they were right.
visit the mindful mission
by big_lowitzki on Sep 14, 2008 3:11 PM CDT up reply actions
Robbie's attempts to strengthen his leg
Seems to have worked.
Fire Angelo!!
by Sam Householder on Sep 14, 2008 1:55 PM CDT reply actions
They need a cookie.
Remember when we were kids and we mixed sodas together and called them "suicides"? It was OK though, because Dr. Pepper was always there.
He's mad about the lack of returs he gets with Hester now back there.
Just kidding, IDK.
Remember when we were kids and we mixed sodas together and called them "suicides"? It was OK though, because Dr. Pepper was always there.
Damn it
Let’s tackle someone!!
Fire Angelo!!
by Sam Householder on Sep 14, 2008 1:58 PM CDT reply actions
God dammit
The one person I don’t want to see have a TD.
Wait, never mind. HAHAHAHA
I'M A MAN! I'M 22!
He gave Grossman
a dirty look on that last drop
I love how Moose thought that anyone would believe...
…that a possession reciever with no speed was opposed to Grossman for anything but personal reasons.
You had to know that
something illegal happened for Moose to pull off a play like that.
You have got to be f'n kidding me...
In Tampa, Fox is showing a PBR event over a football game.
Remember when we were kids and we mixed sodas together and called them "suicides"? It was OK though, because Dr. Pepper was always there.
It just sucks.
The NFL should do a huge PR move and allow people to watch their favorite team if they are moved because of military.
Remember when we were kids and we mixed sodas together and called them "suicides"? It was OK though, because Dr. Pepper was always there.
Somebody should probably tell him that once he crosses the line of scrimmage...
…he’s a football player just like everyone else on the field.
Or lick his fingers at them!
Remember when we were kids and we mixed sodas together and called them "suicides"? It was OK though, because Dr. Pepper was always there.
Briggs is gonna
be in Delhomme’s dreams tonight!!
Or right now.
How hard did he get hit?
Remember when we were kids and we mixed sodas together and called them "suicides"? It was OK though, because Dr. Pepper was always there.
almost decapitated
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by RightFieldSucks on Sep 14, 2008 2:07 PM CDT up reply actions
SEC! SEC! SEC!
Remember when we were kids and we mixed sodas together and called them "suicides"? It was OK though, because Dr. Pepper was always there.
Anyone over at Chads chat?
Wow, right now, what a whiner Del Homme is.
I'm not so mean. I wouldn't ever go out to hurt anybody deliberately - unless it was, you know, important, like a league game or something. - Dick Butkus
carolina bailing us out
tighten up d.
lets get a drive o.
c'mon, twice?
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by RightFieldSucks on Sep 14, 2008 2:08 PM CDT up reply actions
they said ribs.....might be a cracked rib......takes 4 weeks to heal
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by RightFieldSucks on Sep 14, 2008 2:10 PM CDT up reply actions
if he got a cracked rib it would probably knock the air out of him too
which would explain that
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by RightFieldSucks on Sep 14, 2008 2:11 PM CDT up reply actions
missed tackles are rearing their ugly head
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by RightFieldSucks on Sep 14, 2008 2:09 PM CDT reply actions
Crap, Hester.
Sure hope he can run close to full speed without breathing hard. It hurts like hell with broken/cracked ribs.
Remember when we were kids and we mixed sodas together and called them "suicides"? It was OK though, because Dr. Pepper was always there.
At least now
They will kick to us.
Fire Angelo!!
by Sam Householder on Sep 14, 2008 2:12 PM CDT reply actions
Who's back there now?
Bennett, Wolfe?
Remember when we were kids and we mixed sodas together and called them "suicides"? It was OK though, because Dr. Pepper was always there.
Let's put Adwelae back to return.
Remember when we were kids and we mixed sodas together and called them "suicides"? It was OK though, because Dr. Pepper was always there.
Just switching in from Stampede Blue...Is it true?
Is it true that Hester is hurt? Say it ain;t so!!
May the wind be always at your back, and may your placekicker have icewater in his veins.
Thanks. Let's hope it's no big deal
Hester’s part of why we love da football
May the wind be always at your back, and may your placekicker have icewater in his veins.
I don't know that there was much contact on the play at all.
Just ran out of bounds and was clutching his sides.
Rex?
Uribe whispered, "My precious child, I love you and will never leave you, never, ever, during your trials and testings. When you saw only one set of footprints, It was then that I carried you."
I can't follow this.
Remember when we were kids and we mixed sodas together and called them "suicides"? It was OK though, because Dr. Pepper was always there.
rex is a dragon.
little hands
Uribe whispered, "My precious child, I love you and will never leave you, never, ever, during your trials and testings. When you saw only one set of footprints, It was then that I carried you."
a really funny one too, for anyone who hasn't seen it
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by RightFieldSucks on Sep 14, 2008 2:19 PM CDT up reply actions
my buddy has the shirt
classic
Uribe whispered, "My precious child, I love you and will never leave you, never, ever, during your trials and testings. When you saw only one set of footprints, It was then that I carried you."
one of the funniest things ive ever read
Uribe whispered, "My precious child, I love you and will never leave you, never, ever, during your trials and testings. When you saw only one set of footprints, It was then that I carried you."
this ain't no john shoop offense
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by RightFieldSucks on Sep 14, 2008 2:18 PM CDT up reply actions
it's nice to be able to remember that we had good defense with mike brown in
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by RightFieldSucks on Sep 14, 2008 2:17 PM CDT reply actions
*run defense
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by RightFieldSucks on Sep 14, 2008 2:18 PM CDT up reply actions
Okay, I have to do homework.
Be back later.
Remember when we were kids and we mixed sodas together and called them "suicides"? It was OK though, because Dr. Pepper was always there.
Vinitari just shanked a 30 yarder in a dome!!
Fire Angelo!!
by Sam Householder on Sep 14, 2008 2:20 PM CDT reply actions
We need to put someone back there besides Vasher
Vasher is our corner, and D-Manning doesn’t play, so why not put him back there?
I'M A MAN! I'M 22!
San Francisco 49ers would disagree
remember whose record Hester broke vs. New York?
I think it's more because Vashar is a much more important...
…and much more expensive piece of the puzzle these days. Part of the reason Manning was drafted was because of his supposed return skillzzzzz.
Ahh.. yep.
Been there for wrestling when I was younger. My mom is from around Independence. And we’re huge Hawkeye fans.
He ran out bounds and clutched his side.
They say it may be a rib or abdominal injury. He went off on a cart and looked like he was in lots of pain. No hit though.
Kick it to me... I'm open!
we need a good offensive drive here
burn clock, rest d, and get at least 3 points!!!!!
Come on Offense
Lets go neckbeard! Lets look for the tight ends and HOLD ONTO THE BALL OLSON!!
Fire Angelo!!
by Sam Householder on Sep 14, 2008 2:22 PM CDT reply actions
tight ends....just not olsen
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by RightFieldSucks on Sep 14, 2008 2:23 PM CDT up reply actions
The Bears
need to roll up their shirts and kick some ass.
man
nice to see a bears runningback bounce one outside for the first time since TJ.
too bad that got called back, fucking hell.
We have
no playmaking receivers. It doesn’t help that Orton throws an ugky deep ball
Sharp huh! He can't throw deep very well.
He has been throwing deep to guys that aren’t open.
Kick it to me... I'm open!
I'm seriously wondering what he's trying to accomplish with these throws.
He’s not going to get the defense to backup showcasing his arm like this. He’s not going to hit any recievers throwing like this. He could throw a pick throwing like this.
Um.... you sound surprised?
Isn’t that kind of the fact w/ just about every game the Bears will play this year?
We are starting to lose this game
Fire Angelo!!
by Sam Householder on Sep 14, 2008 2:28 PM CDT reply actions
we need a big play.
sack and fumble or a pick.
i don’t like what is brewing right now
Well, at least they're ahead.
Allow two or three first downs to the Panthers, make them punt. Get one first down, punt.
Repeat.
Game over.
Sure, sure.
Easier than a big play, in my opinion.
The offense has had the ball for 51 plays. The Panthers have only run 41. The defense should be rested enough.
are you watching this second half here?
They are starting to tire and offense has gone stagnant
No, I'm not "watching."
I understand they’re tiring. I’m just saying they shouldn’t be worn out. I guess if they are… that’s a different question.
I guess both things work, too.
I wanted them to limit the first downs, you wanted the big play. They kind of did both, so far. I just think that, being ahead, they don’t need to risk giviing up a big play to try to get a big play.
Orton doesn't have anything on Rex's deep ball
But Rex doesn’t have anything on Orton’s interception-less 7 quarters
I'M A MAN! I'M 22!
McFadden 164 yrds and a TD and 23 points
Holt 14 points, Rodgers 22 points.
Kick it to me... I'm open!
sacktoberfest
Uribe whispered, "My precious child, I love you and will never leave you, never, ever, during your trials and testings. When you saw only one set of footprints, It was then that I carried you."
Mr do it all
comes through again. idonije is a freak.
They want to make a name for Forte
Makes coaches and GM’s look good. Plus they are probably testing his stamina too. We really haven’t had many long drives this half to wear him out either.
Kick it to me... I'm open!
Fuckin block in the backs
Fire Angelo!!
by Sam Householder on Sep 14, 2008 2:35 PM CDT reply actions
Two things
1) Why can’t we make a return without a block in the back.
2) Why is Vasher returning kicks?
They had Manning doing it all preseason
I hate to loose a starting DB on special teams
oh. my. god.
wide open and yet another massive overthrow. i’m fine with being a managing qb, but you gotta make those throws man.
Figure what out?
It’s not like he’s misplaying it, he simply doesn’t have the arm to make the deep throws.
actually he is misplaying it.
when you OVERTHROW the guy that is a misplay. if he was consistently underthrowing him then you could make the claim that he doesn’t have the arm.
He can't throw the deep ball accurately.
It looks to me like when he tries to throw the deep ball he just rears back and chucks it, and he can’t be very accurate with it.
It is a skill.
He can throw further than that. He needed to give it more loft so the receiver could time it. Orton just winds up and throws with no ability to judge distance.
Kick it to me... I'm open!
Rookies just don't carry it that much.
They’re either limited by the coaching staff w/ the eye towards the future, or they get hurt because the workload (in addition to the actual hits) is just that much more than in college.
The last rookie RB to have as many carries as Forte is on pace for was LT in 2001. Sure, he might not. I’m just “going with the odds.” I
No, I think you're right
It was just an out-of-the-blue comment and so I was wondering if I had missed something.
I'M A MAN! I'M 22!
I think you're right. I feel the same way. They are giving him a lot of carries.
Kick it to me... I'm open!
How many calls
will come in on the radio tomorrow for Caleb Heine?? Bores and Bernstien are gonna have a blast.
No way. Save him for next year. Orton stays he just is playing bad.
His audibles have been good though.
Kick it to me... I'm open!
again, HUGE difference in field position
its killing us today
Bears have to play mistake free in order to win
Not easy to do esp. i fthe other team forces you to make them.
"Chicago baseball fans, who are composites of scar tissue and mortifying memories..." - George F. Will
We need a big play
Someone, anyone??! Urlacher has been too quiet. Brown needs to get a pick or something, Wale needs asack. Someone anyone, something!!
Fire Angelo!!
by Sam Householder on Sep 14, 2008 2:43 PM CDT reply actions
This sucks.
This is why the offense blows. When you need it to make a play, they just can’t. Well, not yet, anyway.
Bring in Grossman for the final drive. He'll throw one pass and get us back in it. Then pull him.
Kick it to me... I'm open!
our offense needs the lead
This offense cannot play from behind, I will believe that until they prove me wrong.
Fire Angelo!!
by Sam Householder on Sep 14, 2008 2:45 PM CDT reply actions
Get up McGowan. You stunk today, quit acting hurt. We're hurt by your penalties killing our returns.
Kick it to me... I'm open!
well, i never wish injury on anyone...
but i’m not really going to miss mcgowan wiffing on tackles for the rest of the game.
Not sure we can afford to abandon the run
At this point.
Fire Angelo!!
by Sam Householder on Sep 14, 2008 2:48 PM CDT reply actions
Expect them to stack the box.
"Chicago baseball fans, who are composites of scar tissue and mortifying memories..." - George F. Will
Plus maybe we can set up some draw plays
Maybe right here on 3rd down.
Fire Angelo!!
by Sam Householder on Sep 14, 2008 2:50 PM CDT up reply actions
damn
1/8 in 15+ yard situations.
jesus, another open man and another overthrow. this is getting absurd.
Well, it should NEVER have been about this year.
It’s the Kirk Barton/Fred Miller thing. This team might have been in contention to make the playoffs, ubut not to win the Super Bowl. This year should have been preparing for the next year. Now, they’ll either have to spend a boatload of money, trade draft picks to get an established QB, or make next year the “rebuilding year”.
the problem is
this team is getting old, fast, we need to win now while we still have guys like kreutz, urlacher, brown, ogun.
A good QB would have been better than Orton/Grossman next year.
And if you don’t think so, trade them for something. Or don’t. Whatever. This was a rebuilding year. Everything they did this off-season, except get a competent QB and now signing Fred Miller, screams that.
competent qbs
do not grow on trees. we have nothing that we could use to trade for one either.
and the fred miller signing is fine, he is here for depth and not to start, i have no real problem with that.
i don't expect much from you, orton...
but you need to be able to make some of the necessary throws that an nfl qb makes. like something over 15 yards.
isn't there
a 10 second run off on IA penalties.
Better late than never, Maynard
I'm not so mean. I wouldn't ever go out to hurt anybody deliberately - unless it was, you know, important, like a league game or something. - Dick Butkus
This is such bullshit - we were dominating this game
And the O just failed us
I'm not so mean. I wouldn't ever go out to hurt anybody deliberately - unless it was, you know, important, like a league game or something. - Dick Butkus
Here's a joke to be told...
…Orton’s arm is so weak that: When it’s 3rd down, 3 minutes left, his team losing, his throws get confused for intentional grounding.
HAHHAHAHAHAHAH
We knew this about Orton already.
"Chicago baseball fans, who are composites of scar tissue and mortifying memories..." - George F. Will
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I'M A MAN! I'M 22!
Need a big play from the defense if we want a chance
Fire Angelo!!
by Sam Householder on Sep 14, 2008 2:53 PM CDT reply actions
or at least a 3 and out
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by RightFieldSucks on Sep 14, 2008 2:54 PM CDT up reply actions
it's less to do with him and more to do with
the bears tired d cause the offense can’t hold the ball
my internet feed went out
can anyone give real time PBP?
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by RightFieldSucks on Sep 14, 2008 2:55 PM CDT reply actions
If we can't get stop
Then game 1 we look like 05-06 Bears and game 2 looks more like 07 bears w/ slightyl better D
Fire Angelo!!
by Sam Householder on Sep 14, 2008 2:55 PM CDT reply actions
In game 1 we played mistake free
Today, Olsen lost 2 fumbles, penalties have killed us, and Orton…well nuff said.
"Chicago baseball fans, who are composites of scar tissue and mortifying memories..." - George F. Will
Thanks, my internet feed is soo 2 minutes ago
I'm not so mean. I wouldn't ever go out to hurt anybody deliberately - unless it was, you know, important, like a league game or something. - Dick Butkus
this is where orton earns his paycheck.....
….or puts his job on the market
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by RightFieldSucks on Sep 14, 2008 2:56 PM CDT reply actions
shades of arizona?
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by RightFieldSucks on Sep 14, 2008 2:57 PM CDT up reply actions
Decent field position
and all we need is a field goal…
Fire Angelo!!
by Sam Householder on Sep 14, 2008 2:58 PM CDT reply actions
60 yards in 2:20, no timeouts?
what’s the money on?
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by RightFieldSucks on Sep 14, 2008 2:58 PM CDT reply actions
*money line
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by RightFieldSucks on Sep 14, 2008 2:58 PM CDT reply actions
thanks please keep pbp coming
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by RightFieldSucks on Sep 14, 2008 2:59 PM CDT up reply actions
Why the hell
did they pass there. Just shove it up the gut and take it to the 2 miunte warning.
Plenty of goddamn time - why the hell aren't we running it?
I'm not so mean. I wouldn't ever go out to hurt anybody deliberately - unless it was, you know, important, like a league game or something. - Dick Butkus
especially on 3rd and 1
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by RightFieldSucks on Sep 14, 2008 2:59 PM CDT up reply actions
seriously...run the BALL!!!
2 minute warning stops the clock, anyway
you're not gonna win many games when you give up 17 unanswered points
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by RightFieldSucks on Sep 14, 2008 3:00 PM CDT reply actions
Way to give that game away. 10 points for the offense and 3 were from a pick in field goal range.
Kick it to me... I'm open!
You know their playing in Milwaukee tonight and tomorrow, right?
And only playing the third game if they need to at the end of the season. Win tonight and tomorro wand they might take Houston out of it, getting two days rest after the season (since the Cubs essentially have it locked up).
their = they're
I almost typed their instead of they’re three times today but caught myself. What the hell?
did we not convert?
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by RightFieldSucks on Sep 14, 2008 3:02 PM CDT reply actions
WELL DONE RON TURNER
AS I MENTIONED LAST YEAR,
RON TURNER IS A GENIUS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1
I'm not so mean. I wouldn't ever go out to hurt anybody deliberately - unless it was, you know, important, like a league game or something. - Dick Butkus
WOW
2nd and 1 and orton can’t pick it up. I want sexy rexy back
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by RightFieldSucks on Sep 14, 2008 3:03 PM CDT reply actions
it's funny
because he played like shit all day long and now he is over there having a damn pity party for himself.
Guinness commercial dude sez Ron Turner is:
BRILLIANT!
I'm not so mean. I wouldn't ever go out to hurt anybody deliberately - unless it was, you know, important, like a league game or something. - Dick Butkus
can someone PLEASE tell me whats happening?
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by RightFieldSucks on Sep 14, 2008 3:05 PM CDT reply actions
good blocking guys
way to fucking give up.
indy looking great on the road.
This one hurts
Lets just hope next week will go better.
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by Sam Householder on Sep 14, 2008 3:07 PM CDT reply actions
Maynard didn't blow this game. Olsen and Orton and Ron Turner gave this game away.
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maynard?
wtf?
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by big_lowitzki on Sep 14, 2008 3:14 PM CDT up reply actions
Seriously?
Brutal.
1. Why no play action EVER?
2. The second half play calling in general was horrible. We sure don’t do a lot of running during critical times for a team that gets off the bus running.
3. Another dig at coaches, so many penalties especially on punt returns.
there were...
… play action plays.
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by big_lowitzki on Sep 14, 2008 3:15 PM CDT up reply actions
oh man
jason campbell threw such a perfect deep ball to santana moss. god it must be weird to have a qb who can do that.
the bears have one...
… and he is sitting on the sidelines.
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by big_lowitzki on Sep 14, 2008 3:15 PM CDT up reply actions
Are you series?
WR screen pass on 3 and 1? Then not giving the ball to your best offensive player when the game is on the line? How about some play action or bootlegs?
Right before the two-minute warning
Dumb call.
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Maynard
Maynard had only one good punt. The ones where we were backed up in the endzone were horrible.
On Wisconsin!
i'm not trying to make excuses for him
but there are plenty of other scapegoats i’d hang the blame on before maynard.
Dude he had two short punts that weren't even horrible.
Your punter is not the reason you lose games.
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by the way
what exactly happened with hester? i saw him holding his ribs after the one return where he went out of bounds after like 10 yards. but i don’t recall a hit getting laid on him or anything and he looked like he was dizzy and sick when they were putting him on the cart.
orton...
… was 1 for 9 on plays 15 yards or more.
That is not going to lose games. And that is not even “managing games.”
Orton is not a good quarterback.
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it's really a choice of two evils
either you go with orton, who can dink and dunk all day long and do nothing on the offense or you go with grossman who can air it out and make some exciting plays but he is going to make some mistakes that could kill you too.
the thing is, orton is making a lot of mistakes for a guy who is supposed to manage the game. hell, gamble dropped 2 picks today that hit him right in the hands.
huh?
since when does Rex average 2.5 ints/game?
Sorry, but you are making stuff up.
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by big_lowitzki on Sep 14, 2008 3:19 PM CDT up reply actions
wasn't it shown
that orton actually averages more turnovers per offensive play than grossman? or at least a very similar amount.
yea...
… I posted that awhile back.
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by big_lowitzki on Sep 14, 2008 3:20 PM CDT up reply actions
yeah, but most of his history was a first year QB so it is a little unfair.
Grossman didn’t play till his 3rd year.
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hmm...
so should we arbitrarily throw out Grossman’s bad games too?
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by big_lowitzki on Sep 14, 2008 3:23 PM CDT up reply actions
No but it is different when you have more practices and knowledge of the game.
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oh...
… and Orton has had at LEAST 3 interceptions dropped in the last two games.
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by big_lowitzki on Sep 14, 2008 3:20 PM CDT up reply actions
that is not the point
and you know it.
Orton has gotten lucky so far with his bad throws. He has had at least three int’s just dropped.
And you want to make stuff up and pretend that Rex throws 2.5 picks/game, which is complete and utter BS. But don’t let facts get in the way of reality.
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by big_lowitzki on Sep 14, 2008 3:26 PM CDT up reply actions
grossman
Orton has gotten lucky so far with his bad throws.
was the EXACT same way in 06.
Big_low, go out and get a prescription for Vicadin
You need it.
What I was doing in saying that Rex would’ve thrown 5 INT’s these past two games is exaggerating a true point. Rex struggles with turnovers. Bottom line: Orton doesn’t have any. None. Zip.
You tell everyone else not to cherry pick, but you do the same with your Rex – Orton argument. If it means that much to you, you win. Bully for you.
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awesome
Big_low, go out and get a prescription for Vicadin You need it.
When you can’t respond to actual arguments, respond with personal attacks. Classy.
Rex struggles with turnovers.
Umm… do does Orton. Go look it up.
You tell everyone else not to cherry pick, but you do the same with your Rex – Orton argument.What did I cherry pick?
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by big_lowitzki on Sep 14, 2008 3:45 PM CDT up reply actions
Are you trying to say
Grossman throws a better interception because his don’t get dropped?
no...
… i am saying that Orton is vastly overrated around here, and makes a lot of mistakes, and he has gotten very lucky so far this year.
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by big_lowitzki on Sep 14, 2008 3:26 PM CDT up reply actions
yea...
… you are telling me that by making things up that don’t align with reality. And you are ignoring Orton’s many deficiencies.
Look… Rex Grossman is not and will not be a great quarterback. But I still strongly believe that he is a better option than Orton.
Neither of them take care of the ball very well, and Grossman has the ability to actually make plays.
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by big_lowitzki on Sep 14, 2008 3:43 PM CDT up reply actions
No, I know Orton struggles
We don’t need a gunslinger….we need a game manager.
Today highlighted Orton’s weaknesses (and Rex’s strengths coincidentally). I know Orton struggles with accuracy on the long ball. But besides this supposed audible he made on the 3rd-and-one, he didn’t do anything to lose us this game, did he?
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game manager
Didn’t I already show a couple of weeks ago that the “game manager” thing is BS with Orton?
He fumbles and throws INTs at a similar, or even greater, rate as Grossman does.
Didn’t do anything to lose the game? Well, other than missing wide open receivers, sure.
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by big_lowitzki on Sep 14, 2008 3:48 PM CDT up reply actions
Big low, seriously bro. I’ll go through this with you so you don’t get confused.
How many fumbles or INT’s has Orton lost this year? Not maybes, not kinda sorta, but definite fumbles or INT’s. Get back to me.
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not confused
But maybe you should read up on this things called sample sizes sometime. It would be good for you.
Don’t get me wrong – Orton hasn’t had any turnovers this year. That is good. He also had gotten lucky, which you choose to ignore. Oh well.
But he does not have a good history of “game managing.” I know that you don’t like to actually deal with facts though, so don’t let that get in the way of what you want to believe.
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by big_lowitzki on Sep 14, 2008 3:55 PM CDT up reply actions
I understand what you're saying
But you’re willing to toss Orton aside right now for Rex. Then, when Rex goes south, would you go to Hanie?
My definition of game managing is to not hurt the team with any sort of turnovers. He’s accomplishing that.
“I know that you don’t like to actually deal with facts though, so don’t let that get in the way of what you want to believe.”
AFTER you wrote:
“When you can’t respond to actual arguments, respond with personal attacks. Classy.”
Whoops…..
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orton
is doing us no favors, he is makign the same bad decision frossman always had. IT’S JUST A MATTER OF TIME.
like it was in 06.
i understand tha almost doesn’t count, but being aware of that shit is how you make changes ahead of time, insead of the lovie smith way when its too late.
I totally understand that
My overarching point was that personally, I think it would not be smart to go switch to Rex right now. Orton may have had a bad game, and to switch things up after every game wouldn’t be good for the team or the season.
Rex and Kyle aren’t good QB’s, we know that. But what if Rex gets in and sucks it up? Now we’ve shot both of their confidence, and our season will quickly go down the drain.
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switching back and forth
is not a good idea.
but as far as shooting their confidence, i am sick of hearing that. come out and play well and you’ll have al the confidence you need. worked for grossman in 06, he wasn’t good at times but he never lost his confidence, and to be honest i would bet he still hasn’t.
Oh, I think Rex's is gone
He got booed pretty loudly during the last couple preseason games.
Right now we have two below-average QB’s. I don’t want them to be any worse, because all they are is a band-aid for this season. So, I’d rather be sensitive to their widdle feewings (even though it makes me want to gag) and hopefully get some good play out of them.
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yup...
"I know that you don’t like to actually deal with facts though, so don’t let that get in the way of what you want to believe."
AFTER you wrote:
"When you can’t respond to actual arguments, respond with personal attacks. Classy."
Whoops…..
Yup… because somehow pointing out how you are batantly ignoring the facts is the same as telling someone they should take “Vicadin” [sic].
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by big_lowitzki on Sep 14, 2008 4:28 PM CDT up reply actions
This is why I told you that you should
You’re getting too worked up about it.
You’re right: Rex is a better statistical quarterback, which means nothing because statistics can be warped to fit whatever standards a person gives it. Rex is just a God. Let’s start Rex.
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You think...
… that Rex is a God.
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by big_lowitzki on Sep 14, 2008 8:19 PM CDT up reply actions
Orton just said 3rd and 1 was a run and he changed it at the line to make that bad pass.
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Field position
The panthers won this game because they had better field position especially in the second half. The punter is largely responsible for that.
On Wisconsin!
Dude you only punt when you can't move the ball.
How many points did our offense score? We got 7 from the block, and 3 points from the pick.
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first...
… the Panthers punter was excellent. But Maynard was not bad.
This loss had almost NOTHING to do with Maynard.
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by big_lowitzki on Sep 14, 2008 3:21 PM CDT up reply actions
How about Olsen costing us 10 points?
That is the loss coupled with Orton not being able to throw the ball over 5 yards.
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alright
as much fun as it is to argue grossman/orton all day long, i’m gonna go cook some dinner. for what it’s worth, i wish they’d just send grossman out there and tell him to have fun and play some football and see what happenes. maybe if he could relax a little bit he’d be fine.
yaaaawn
of course you do,
grossman could throw 9 picks and you’d want him out there.
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