Move Urlacher to saftey? Find his apprentice?

by joejoeEnglish94bulls4ever on Sep 24, 2008 12:55 AM CDT Comment 22 comments

Here we go people on ESPN calling the Bears Defense old.

Just an idea.Or if you're from the East coast an idearrrrrr. I know this would never happen but I thought about this during the preseason and kinda liked the idea of just letting Urlacher loose to F'up some wideouts or some running back.

My thing is I don't see the same player from a few years ago. I really think Urlacher has lost his edge. His tackling has looked poor at times.

I remember the Urlacher that would come out of nowhere like a cheetah built like mac truck. I just don't see that superstar effect anymore that made this defense so powerful. Don't get me wrong he's still their best player but I think this move would give him a chance to kill. He's getting older and mucking him up in the middle seems to hinder his talent.

maybe like......

Brown, Urlacher

Peanut, Vasher

Hunter, Briggs, Williams

Adewale, Harris, Dusty, Alex B.

The truth is YES this Defense is getting older BUT look at what one good draft pick could do for a unit i.e. Matt Forte.

So find Urlacher's apprentice and revamp this defense. Or we can have more of the same bend but don't break until your gassed at the end of the game defense.

I want a defense that scares teams again.

Yes the Bears need a QB and WR thats the top of the list but Urlacher is in his twilight as far as an every down game changer.

I think it's time to plan for Urlacher and Mike Brown's replacements. Maybe moving him to safety could give the defense a new look while giving his apprentice reps.

PS Olin Kreutz is washed up!

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I think Urlacher might be getting a little old for this

But, if i recall correctly, he was the 4th fastest safety in his draft class. I think in goal line situations moving him back to roam and bringing in another linebacker might be beneficial.

by MrPants on Sep 24, 2008 1:23 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

hmm...

He’s getting older and mucking him up in the middle seems to hinder his talent.

So he is getting older, which traditionally means losing speed, so you want to move him into a position that requires more speed?

Huh?

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by big_lowitzki on Sep 24, 2008 1:57 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

Yeah

Isn’t the move normally from Safety to LB?

God knows Dallas needs to admit this and move Roy Williams…

--Torch

by torch on Sep 24, 2008 4:08 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

What I ment was he's older and he doesn't shed blocks well.

Letting him loose might help him. He doesn’t seem as effective in the middle anymore. Would you rather have him clean up the running back? Or keep seeing him whiff on tackles. By putting at the safety spot he can unload on players. He doesn’t have to get engulfed by a 300 pounder. He can be the third wave instead of the first tackler. I just think he’s better at cleaning up then he is tackling one on one.

by joejoeEnglish94bulls4ever on Sep 25, 2008 12:22 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Oy.

I want to move Urlacher closer to the ball… not further away from it.

He has stated time and time again how much he dislikes this defense… because he’s so far away from the ball.

I'm not going to even bother trying to update this sig everyday anymore... that's what the standings column on ESPN is for.
Updated on May 25, 2008

by SackMan on Sep 25, 2008 12:13 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs

link?

by joejoeEnglish94bulls4ever on Sep 25, 2008 12:23 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

I don't have a link off hand

but I can vouch for that statement. He has complained that the Cover 2 keeps him in coverage so much. He wants to attack the ball and go after the QB.

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by Adam T on Sep 25, 2008 8:50 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Incredible

It’s crazy to think how good he has been when he has been in the wrong system for most of his playing career. The Tampa 2 obviously isn’t his best fit. Imagine what he would do in a system like the Eagles or another blitz happy team.

by bs1220 on Sep 25, 2008 8:55 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs

Actually isn't the Cover 2

the ideal fit for him. Isn’t he considered the prototypical Cover-2 LB? Not many LBs if any can do what he does when he drops back. Him wanting to attack the ball and QB is his preference. I don’t know if the dislike of the defense affects the way he plays though.

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by Adam T on Sep 25, 2008 9:15 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Right. He might not like it, but it's what he's best at.

by tyger1147 on Sep 25, 2008 5:24 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

If anyone needs to blitz more it's Mike Brown.

by joejoeEnglish94bulls4ever on Sep 25, 2008 12:34 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

What?

That’s how he got hurt….there’s a reason why he’s playing the pass more this year. They wanted to keep him back from the LOS.

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by ChiFan13 on Sep 25, 2008 1:16 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Its a Catch 22

they are saving him by keeping him back and having him roam, but by doing so they take away a big part of what he did for us. It is hard for him to be the ball hawk he can be, if he is always 50 yards down field guarding against the big pass. It also hurts the run defense when he is nowhere near the line.

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by Adam T on Sep 25, 2008 1:22 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

It's not a catch 22 at all

The past two injuries he was playing up at the line. So, we can either have him sit back against the pass (healthy) or we can have him start to play up and most likely get hurt. It hurts the team more when he’s not playing, period. We can’t afford for him to go down right now.

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by ChiFan13 on Sep 25, 2008 1:36 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

If Brown has X value to us

and we stop him from doing the 2 things he excels at he is no longer worth the same.

Our run defense was 20-30 yards better when he played than when he didn’t. Mike Brown also has a knack for finding the loose ball.

If is no longer allowed to go up to the line and is not longer able to float enough to get to the loose ball, all he is to us is a regular safety.

Why put a guy out on the field if you have to baby him and don’t let him do what he needs to do?

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by Adam T on Sep 25, 2008 1:44 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Because right now, we're short on safeties

B-Mac is out at SS and Kevin Payne is taking his place.

If Mike Brown is injured, we have Danieal Manning or Craig Steltz. One is not that good and one hasn’t shown anything yet except for a knack of missing tackles.

So, let’s think about it. Why would we want to put a player at risk of injury? Our defense is one of two reasons why we’re in games (along with Forte). Our pass D is ranked 28th anyways. Love to see what it’d be without Mike Brown in there. We’d be dead damn last.

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by ChiFan13 on Sep 25, 2008 2:05 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Listen cupcake!

This is real football, not that two hand tag/flag/I’m the all time QB garbage you play in the back yard with the neighborhood kids. This is a sport of men, of gladiators and the fight with everything they have in arenas and on frozen fields.

If Mike Ditka or Dick Butkus heard your theory they would bury you under the bleachers on the 50 yard line, so you can spend the rest of your life seeing how barbarians play this game.

We pay Mike Brown good money to do a job, if he can’t do the job with out getting an ouchie than find somebody who can and let Brown become a coach.

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by Adam T on Sep 25, 2008 2:16 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Blah blah blah

You have no argument here, and you know it.

What do you suggest we do then? We’ll move Mike Brown up and he’ll get injured. Then both of our safeties are for backups and we won’t be any good back there.

I know this is football and all that, but we also need to look out for our team. You’re essentially arguing for him to play in a spot on the field where he’s gotten injured twice before. Why are you wanting for him to get injured? We don’t have the backups necessary for that to happen, and you know it.

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by ChiFan13 on Sep 25, 2008 2:23 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

What happend sissy boy?

Is big_low spurning your advances, you gotta come over here and get in my business?

I appreciate the fact that we are short at safety, but telling brown to just sit back and wait for the ball then go for it, but don’t put yourself in harms way, nah, that ain’t how football players role.

Brown has a 4 tackle average through 3 games. Doesn’t Garrett Wolfe almost have that many tackles? hey, maybe I found a way to use Wolfe, sweet!

Save your pansy thoughts and go plant a garden or something.

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by Adam T on Sep 25, 2008 2:30 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs