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The Good, Bad and Ugly - Bears Vs. Colts

The Good

A lot of things went right for the Bears, so this section could be filled, so I am just going to single out a few.

 

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Matt Forte.  Forte's performance allows the Bears to continue to run the type of game plan they want to run.  His 123 yard performance allowed the Bears to keep the Colts offense off the field, score points and eat up the clock.  If Forte continues this Orton's life just got a lot easier.  The Colts had more yards of offense (by a small bit), but the Bears held the ball for 31:44 versus the Colts 28:16.

Defensive Pressure.  Possibly the key to the game.  The Bears showed blitz almost all game and brought it a lot.  They kept in Manning's face  most of the night.  Even when they weren't getting to him they were making him move around and forcing him to get rid of the ball before his receivers could get down field.  Every defensive line player, linebacker and some secondary spent some time in the Colts backfield.

Charles Tillman.  I thought Peanut had a really solid game. Aside from the forced fumble he had on Colts receiver Marvin Harrison, but he had 6 tackles and did a good job keeping guys in front of him and wrapping up on tackles.  He is one of the most underrated CBs in the league.

Roll Call.  Most comments in the game thread this week went to...........halfblindcubbiegirl with 122 comments.  Following were nbt (88), tempchad (86), tfrabotta (83) and Hester18 (80).

 

 

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The Bad

Colts coaching/Clock management.  This is probably the first and likely the last time this might be written.   Manning burned two timeouts in quick succession.  Tony Dungy wasted two timeouts on challenges that were not really that questionable.

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Bad Calls.  The Refs made some questionable calls early on in this game.  They called horrible pass interference call on, I believe Charles Tillman.  They also gave the ball back to the Colts on a clear fumble from what the announcers described as not knowing who had the ball.  When do they ever know on pile ups?  You have to go with who came out with the ball.

The Ugly

Bears mistakes.  The Bears played real good ball, but there were still some things that need to get cleaned up and some mental mistakes.  John St. Clair was burned on a horrible spin move, despite what Al Michaels said, by Dwight Freeney.  Tait was burned a few times.  Olin Kruetz was called for multiple penalties.  A Bears player, Ogunleye? was called for head butting on one of the Colts drives.

 

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Maybe if he flexed less, he would have spent less time chasing Forte.

 

 

Bob Sanders.  I am not taking anything away from him as a player and I agree that his biceps are impressive, but is flexing the only thing he knows how to do?  He does it before the game, during the game and during commercials.  Let it alone.  One day somebody is going to run over him and turn around and give it back to him.

Devin Hester.  He didn't get too many shots at a run back, so he decided to try and create an opportunity and instead gave the Bears horrible field position that led to a punt and good field position to the Colts that led to a score.

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looked great…like we all hoped he would…….vasher cant miss 2 easy tackles in one game….orton looked better than he ever has.

by SuperBowlXX on Sep 8, 2008 3:05 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

really?

Orton has never looked better than decent?

Again…13-21, 150 yards.

He has never looked better than that?

by big_lowitzki on Sep 8, 2008 3:06 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Orton should have

had at least one TD. Clark should have taken that long pass right into the endzone and it was reported that he was beating himself for not doing so. Kyle also made some big throws. He had a good game.

by dakoose on Sep 8, 2008 3:20 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

he also...

… made some bad throws, and should have had an interception.

He had a mediocre game.

by big_lowitzki on Sep 8, 2008 3:39 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I'd go a step above mediocre

It was average.

And hopefully that’s about all we need from him.

by Arbusto on Sep 8, 2008 4:15 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

when you out play peyton manning

at HOME and look calm and take control of the offence , go down the fileld and score i would say that he hasenntr done that in previous years……..Orton looked poised. now he just needs to not make many mistakes and the defence will take care of the rest.

by SuperBowlXX on Sep 8, 2008 8:42 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Outplayed Peyton?

Orton: 13/21 150yds, 0 TD, 0 Ints
Manning: 30/49 257yds 1 TD, 0 Ints

No, he did not outplay Manning. The Bears team outplayed the Colts team but Orton did not out play Peyton.

It’s the QBs job to move the ball downfield. Orton did some of that. That’s expected. So, yes, it’s an average job.

You do realize “average” is better than “mediocre”? I’m giving Orton more credit. This is all we need out of him. Move the ball some, give the ball to Forte and don’t turn it over. I don’t know how that goes anywhere above average. Or do we as Bears fans have such low expectations of QBs that one that doesn’t turn it over in a game is suddenly great?

by Arbusto on Sep 9, 2008 7:58 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Orton completed a higher percentage and scored more points.

(well the offense did and he led the offense)

Kick it to me... I'm open!

by #23 on Sep 10, 2008 12:02 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Then our offense out played their offense

Not Orton outplayed Manning.

Being Who You Thought We Were Since 2005!

by Adam T on Sep 10, 2008 9:01 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

come on...

13/21 = 61.9%
30/49 = 61.2%

You are making a judgment off of that? And you definitely cannot say that Orton outplayed Manning based on the team scoring more points.

by big_lowitzki on Sep 10, 2008 9:31 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

huh?
when you out play peyton manning

Are you serious? You definitely watched a different game than I did.

by big_lowitzki on Sep 9, 2008 10:29 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Better than average

I’d consider his 83.4 passer rating and 61.9 completion percentage pretty darn good. It included him passing to 7 different receivers, of which at least 5 of them had 2 receptions or more. This is all against the #2 ranked defense all of last year. In addition, the Colts defense have two of the best players at their positions in Sanders and Freeney. Two words….no turnovers.

Clark could’ve easily dove into the end zone to give Kyle a TD and better his numbers.

"I'm not so mean. I wouldn't ever go out to hurt anybody deliberately - unless it was, you know, important, like a league game or something." - Dick Butkus

by propheteer on Sep 8, 2008 10:39 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

i don't understand you ax grinding here

Orton did exactly what the team needed him to do. For that I would say he had a good game. Not great. Just good.

This was a game like in 05 when we went 10 – 6 with him starting.

As long as there is a 0 in the INT column and +60% passing, that is all the Bears need.

by tempchad on Sep 9, 2008 12:59 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Speaking of Bad Calls.

What about that roughing the passer call on Urlacher? That call was a joke.

by dakoose on Sep 8, 2008 3:20 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

That was a bad call

I forgot about that one.

For awhile it almost seemed like they were trying to give them the game. With Brady down Manning is their golden boy….conspiracy:)

Being Who You Thought We Were Since 2005!

by Adam T on Sep 8, 2008 3:54 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yeah they get the Superstar Treatment

I call it the Jordon Rule: Any would-be call against a mediocre player is a non-call against superstars, like how Jordon and (now) LeBron can/could push off and charge and not get the calls because they are Michael Jordon and LeBron James. Same goes for the Colts

Manning falls down with two hands in his face, throw the flag. Marvin Harrison doesn’t come down with a fingertip catch? Well he must have been interfered with, he’s Marvin Harrison!!

Fire Angelo!!

by GallopingGhost on Sep 8, 2008 8:26 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Jordan even:)

Being Who You Thought We Were Since 2005!

by Adam T on Sep 9, 2008 10:16 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Or

The fumble that was ruled down by contact

or all the holding by the colts o line

and the spearing by sanders

i swear the refs got a phone call after Brady went down to protect Manning.

hit him in his earhole

by draftday on Sep 9, 2008 8:19 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Mine..

The Good:
Matt Forte: I had a feeling he was going to have a good first game, and he did. I never once while Benson was here had a feeling that every play could be a big play. Last night I did. Forte runs up the hole, and looked great.

Kyle Orton: He didn’t need to do anything big for them to win, just make no mistakes. He made a few big passes on third down and a couple long passes to set up scores. I was impressed.

Marcus Harrison: Made a nice sack that lead to the safety and also made the stop on 4 and 1 to seal the game.

Corners: Tillman and Vasher had great coverage, and Mike Brown played well defending over the top.

There are many more, but this is what stood out to me…

The Bad:
Terrible Calls: There were three calls that were pretty bad. First off, they ruled it was a fumble, but didn’t give it to the Bears when Wolfe clearly had it. They called illegal contact on Tillman when he didn’t touch the guy. And the worst to be was the roughing the passer. He hit him as he threw it. The league needs to doften up on this, they’re making the QB’s into babies.

The Ugly:
Endzone Return: First I’d like to say that had that guy not tackled Hester, we’d probably be talking about how amazing the play was. There was really nobody else that had a shot. Nonetheless, it wasn’t smart and could have really turned the game around.

Adewale Head-Butt: He’s a veteran, and this shouldn’t happen. The official was right there and he made it so obvious. We were up 16, but had they scored there it would have been a one TD game with plenty of time.

by Twins Territory on Sep 8, 2008 3:27 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Marcus Harrsion really showed up!

I hope we can stay healthy this year, because we’ll have a great rotation at DT.

I'm not going to even bother trying to update this sig everyday anymore... that's what the standings column on ESPN is for.
Updated on May 25, 2008

by SackMan on Sep 8, 2008 4:47 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

What a way to start an NFL career:

Harrison: First career sack is Peyton Manning. That must be nice

Forte: 100+ yards and a TD. Plus his TD run was longer than ANY run in his predecessors career.

Fire Angelo!!

by GallopingGhost on Sep 8, 2008 8:29 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Lay off Bob Sanders.

He is god. I’d rather have him than Mike Brown any day. I said it!!!

by tyger1147 on Sep 8, 2008 3:32 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

I think I cleared him as a player

just get tired of the constant posing.

Being Who You Thought We Were Since 2005!

by Adam T on Sep 8, 2008 5:41 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Of course...

If Bob Sanders continues to play like this the next year or two, he will end up being injured for season after season, just like Mike Brown. Taking Mike Brown out of the box was the smartest thing the Bears coaches did in that game.

Then you’ll move onto another shiny object.

by mikebdot on Sep 8, 2008 6:59 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

WTF?

Sanders already has been hurt. And he’s still better than Brown has ever been. Not by a lot, not by much at all, but he is.

And I’ll move onto another shiny object in a few years? No shit. He’s 27 and the shelf-life of NFL players is short. It’s the nature of the game. So what is it you’re trying to say again?

by tyger1147 on Sep 9, 2008 12:02 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

They have different skills.

Bob hits harder, but Mike does hit hard. Mike is better at creating turnovers, but Bob does do well at it as well. They are different. Both have had many injuries. Bob only has one full season if I remember correctly.

Kick it to me... I'm open!

by #23 on Sep 10, 2008 12:08 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

huh?

You say that they are different, but then go on to say how they are essentially the same?

by big_lowitzki on Sep 10, 2008 9:32 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

The head butt

Was not a bad call. Did you watch that replay? He headbutted him. Pretty damn clear.

by Arbusto on Sep 8, 2008 4:16 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Sorry, misread the post

I thought that was under the refs bad calls post.

by Arbusto on Sep 8, 2008 4:16 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

not gunna lie

the headbutt was still pretty awesome

They are who we thought they were

by Hester18 on Sep 8, 2008 7:30 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

no...

…actually it was really stupid.

Stupid ≠ awesome

by big_lowitzki on Sep 9, 2008 10:29 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

grossman would have folded

in that game.

ortons run was a huge, even if it did only result in a field goal.

by mike b on Sep 8, 2008 5:19 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

i dont know about that

i think rex woulda given us a better passing game. i dont like that were running such a conservative offense as i doubt forte will be able to get 100+ yards a game on the ground and i dont think that orton has the ability to make big plays if needed. its one thing to catch a team off guard while up late in the game…but in a game in which we would need to come back i dont know about orton being able to handle that situation.

by Jbasic89 on Sep 8, 2008 11:42 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I agree to an extent

I miss the Sex Cannon’s ability to heave that ball downfield. If we can see Orton do that a few times I’ll start feeling better. But you’re exactly right, if we get behind in a game, we’re in trouble with this offense as played this weekend. However, since they spent the entire game in front, we didn’t get to see what could happen. I don’t want to see it though. Let’s go, Defense!

by Arbusto on Sep 9, 2008 8:01 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

he would have mentally

lost it after the first snap, and would have been sacked with the pressure the colts put on and his lack of pocket awareness.

by mike b on Sep 9, 2008 9:12 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

snap was on olin

that’s why i said he would have “lost it” after, since it would have happened to either guy.

by mike b on Sep 9, 2008 3:39 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Another bad Olin snap. You know for all the crap people gave Rex for the fumbles,

most of those snaps may have been the other guys fault. What a shame. Eliminate the fumbles and now you have a QB that just needs to lower the picks. Yeah I know there were other issues, but the really bad games were because of both picks and fumbles.

Kick it to me... I'm open!

by #23 on Sep 10, 2008 12:10 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

The headbutt...

I believe Alex Brown was responsible for the headbutt and to be fair he got a sack on THE NEXT PLAY. That’s redeeming right there.

I’m liking Orton and I’m LOVING Forte. Jones actually played pretty well too.

by HesterSteals1st on Sep 9, 2008 7:12 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

no.

The headbutt was a 15 yard penalty. The sack was a 7 yard loss. That is not “redeeming.”

Alex Brown is lucky that the penalty did not hurt the team.

by big_lowitzki on Sep 9, 2008 10:31 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I'm pretty

sure it was Adewale…

by Twins Territory on Sep 9, 2008 6:54 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yea...

… you are right, it was Adewale.

by big_lowitzki on Sep 10, 2008 9:33 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Good / Bad

Guys great game and had fun posting on the game thread. The good – Forte! How exciting to have a quality back again, can do it all and Block!, Kudos to the Oline for executing the running game all night long. I though Orton played well. Did he make some mistakes? sure he did, but converting 10-16 on third down? we will win a lot of game with that. Turner – getting the TE involved is critical. Olsen is going to be a tough cover for other teams LB/SS. And the number one thing – great effort all night long. We need that fire every game.

The bad, Not a lot of pressure from the front four without blitzing. With all the blitzing we made Manning uncomfortable but we didn’t get to him too much with a makeshift Oline for Indy. If he was in midseason form we may not have been so fortunate. Vasher – 2 words..WRAP UP! His worst game I have seen as a bear.

by tfrabotta on Sep 9, 2008 5:46 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

As I mentioned

above, it was indeed Adewale with the head-butt:

by Twins Territory on Sep 9, 2008 7:03 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

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