Flavor of the Day - David Carr
by Adam T on Jan 15, 2009 12:04 PM CST
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So far we here at Lov & Jerry's QB Shop haven't been able to find a flavor that really suits your pallettes. Today we bring you David Carr. David Carr is a bit different as he is not a free agent, but unlike a lot of the other flavors he is still relatively young.
Carr is an interesting topic. I've always though he had a ton of talent, but he was never on a team that had a good running game and he was sacked more than any other QB in his career with the Houston Texans. So the question is are the 262 sacks he took and the 70 INTs he threw in his 6 years with Houston and Carolina more of an issue of him being indecisive with a slow delivery and poor pocket presence or was he not given proper protection and enough weapons? We can give him a run game, but we don't know if we can protect him. We certainly cannot give him a weapon as good as Andre Johnson. Carr has throw for over 14,000 and 60 TDs in his years with the Panthers and Texans.
Carr is currently the backup with the Giants. He has no shot at being a starter again behind Manning, so he certainly would welcome the change of scenery.
What is your take on Carr?
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Yes...?!
I think that this may be our only option who will see an upgrade at offensive line (looking back on his Houston days).
He’s going to be on the sidelines somewhere, I’m sure he’d rather be in Chicago where he may have a chance. After all, he didn’t look too inept with his touchdown pass against the Vikes in week 17.
He played well with Ny
but he won’t have anything near that team here.
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Not so fast...
In that Viking game he had Ahmad Bradshaw as his starting running back. I would take Matt Forte over Bradshaw any day of the week. His receivers were mostly average since Burress had already shot himself. So I would give the Giants a slight edge there. And on the O-Line the Giants had a much better run blocking line but they are not very good in pass protection as evidenced by the Dallas games, I believe 14 sacks in two games, and the Philly playoff game. So maybe a slight edge but I thought the Bears line was pretty good in pass protection just really bad at run blocking.
So the Giants have more talent but the Bears are pretty close considering the lineup the Giants fielded in the 2nd half of the Viking game. So I think it would be a one of the few options that could bring an improvement
Absolutely... in a heartbeat.
If, IF Chris Williams can be productive, and if, IF we get another stud OLineman in the draft or FA, Carr would be a welcome addition to the Bears in my opinion. Whether he beats out Orton, or simply fills the back-up role, I would like to see him in Navy and Orange.
Things will get better as they improve...
Worst idea ever
Carr is horrible in the worst of ways. I think having him on the Bears roster would cause Orton to regress beyond words. Garcia is a much better option because of his mobility and knack for making impact plays.
"I'm not so mean. I wouldn't ever go out to hurt anybody deliberately - unless it was, you know, important, like a league game or something." - Dick Butkus
lol
I think having him on the Bears roster would cause Orton to regress beyond words.
I don’t even know how to respond to this.
I am like your Dan Aykroyd and biglow would be Jane, the ignorant slut. -Chad
please explain...
… how Carr would cause Orton to digress.
Bringing moderation to a place I don't moderate.
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by big_lowitzki on Jan 16, 2009 11:14 AM CST up reply actions
Based on pictures
I’d say Orton is more likely to hit the bottle than Carr. Maybe Carr could show him how to be less mobile or maybe he could show him how to take a hit. Carr should be an expert on that one.
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You missed the point of my comment,
Although it was probably unclear. I was referencing Neck’s proclivity to embibe… and whilst he stayed out of thr tabloids this season, I was just referring to the question about how Carr could cause Orton to digress.
Regardless, the question wasn’t even addressed to me, so I shoulda just stayed out of it. It was just a thought that came to mind.
Things will get better as they improve...
For my
part I was not even paying attention to the point. I saw a chance to reference Orton’s drunk pics and Carr’s proclivity to being sacked and I took it.
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Regressing comment was sarcasm
I don’t think Carr would cause Neck to regress because of drinking or partying, but he doesn’t bring anything to the Bears as a backup, or potential starter. He’s shown zero ability to get rid of the ball, or check down his receivers, etc. etc. All he does well is get sacked continuously. The concept of competition is to let the players decide who’s better. Bringing Carr in would openly admit that Orton is the “starter,” thus no competition. Leftwich is much better idea because he can actually hit a moving target.
"I'm not so mean. I wouldn't ever go out to hurt anybody deliberately - unless it was, you know, important, like a league game or something." - Dick Butkus
NO!
Really. HELL no.
He couldn’t put up respectable performances with steve smith or andre johnson? and you’d like to see him play with rashied davis?
this has ugly written all over it.
by halfblindcubbiegirl on Jan 15, 2009 1:33 PM CST reply actions
Wow! 262 sacks...
In 6 seasons? Wow!
Passion For The Game, Loyal To The Name, Chicago Bears, I Trust In Thee, Standing Strong Since 1983.
probably one of the more palatable ideas
cheap and may be capable of actually producing some competition. Wonder what it’d take to get him here?
At this point in his career,
probably 10 bucks and gift certificates to Giordanos!
Things will get better as they improve...
Wouldn't
be the worst option to bring in and compete.
by Twins Territory on Jan 15, 2009 3:03 PM CST reply actions
Partly to blame
I live in Houston and watched every snap Carr played for the Texans. Before I go any further I’d like to congratulate you guys for the showing of fan support at the game in Houston. It got pretty loud when you guys cheered for the Bears.
“Experts” in Houston have studied most of the sacks that Carr experienced in Houston and all of them say that at least half of them could be blamed on him. All of them? Not a chance. But he consistently held onto the ball for way to long and very rarely threw it away. I really hoped he would play well for the Panthers or Giants, but I haven’t seen anything to show that he will ever be more than a back-up QB. Oh, and the fact that he was always the first off the practice field, and almost never showed any leadership skills doesn’t help him either!
Good luck in 2009.
As a Texans PSL holder I also watched David Carr QB our team for 5 seasons
Carr is a conundrum. He has skills. He has quick feet, a fairly strong arm, decent size, runs the QB sneak quite well and has the ability to take punishing hits and stay in the game. Why is he not a good QB? Traveling Texan stated it quite well. He never developed the ability to throw the ball away to avoid sacks and/or punishing hits. He also has a sidearm delivery which results in a lot of deflected passes despite his decent size. The Texans were guilty of not building a decent O Line and as a result, Carr got shell shocked an developed “happy feet” after a few years. I don’t blame him. He was sacked an NFL record 76 times in his rookie season; 36 more in 2003, 49 in 2004. Often I thiought that even though the OL blocked decently, instead of stepping up into the pocket, he would frequently run to the side, resulting in unnecessary sacks. I liked David Carr. He never badmouthed any of his teammates. He never got in trouble off the field; solid family man. He never, however, developed into the field leader that a QB needs to be so we had to give up on him. I wish him well, but wonder if he can ever recover from the trauma he experienced his 1st 5 seasons in Houston. I think maybe not.
Oh yeah, like Traveling Texan said, great fan support in Houston this year. There were as many Bears fans as Texan fans in my section. Good job. Good luck next year.
by oiler-texan diehard on Jan 17, 2009 9:56 PM CST up reply actions
next flavour please
Erm, well if we are going to call Milton Bradley nicknames, mine is Fischer Price: yes, you heard it here first..
Carr
As a Texans fan, Carr never got a real chance in Houston. Casserly was wrong to take him and drop him into the lineup without an o-line to protect him or a RB or WRs to take the heat off his playing. Under a real o-line, Carr could flourish.
Absolutely
David got a raw deal! He always showed the utmost in class, and especially leadership! I’ve rarely seen a more capable leader of men than Carr.
Probably the only quality he has that’s better than his ability to lead, is his incredible field vision and ability to burn a blitzing defense. You never really saw it in Houston because of the bad offensive lines, and the poor field conditions which often caused Carr to lose his footing, or would put him in a position where he couldn’t escape the first defender who reached him.
He’s a man of great ability, leadership, and faith. He could do wonders in the Windy City.
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by HoustonDiehards on Jan 15, 2009 6:09 PM CST up reply actions
Did anyone mention
his fantastic hair?
If anyone can match Sexy Rexy’s abilities as quarterback, leader, and lady-killer, it’s Mittens.
LOL...maybe Carr can match the last three in your list of attributes. Sexy beats him out on the field!
"I'm not so mean. I wouldn't ever go out to hurt anybody deliberately - unless it was, you know, important, like a league game or something." - Dick Butkus
Has Brains And a Work Ethic, Too
Many of us were sorry he left when he did. During hist time in Houston they changed the offense several times. There was never a drop-off in his production. However, the media cabal ran him out of town. They were angry that the Texans didn’t draft VY.
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David Carr would be a game changer for the Bears.
Huh?
You’re joking right? Class, sure. Leadership? No way! After he left town players were saying he never put in any extra practice time, and the coach mentioned he always put in a minimum effort. Even Kubiak made the same comments. And this incredible field vision and great ability…check these stats and decide for yourself.
In Carolina, with an opportunity to start, and a decent team to play with: 6 games played, 4 started. 53.7% completion rate, 4.7 yards per pass, 3TD, 5INT, 13 sacks.
by TravelingTexan on Jan 16, 2009 8:20 AM CST up reply actions
My question
once Carr left, how much of the rest of the team changed?
Schaub almost instantly seemed better. Did the line change or play any better? Did the run game improve?
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The run game definitely did
Steve Slaton was great this year…I think the year before that they had Ahman Green followed by scrubs(and they still had a decent season). No idea before that but I think it was pretty shabby.
Nope
A few changes, but Dominic Davis was a decent RB. Ahman Green has never been healthy enough to make a difference. There were some improvements, as well as coaching changes, but Carr was given a year with the new system and didn’t show any improvements. Kubiak said he would make the exact same mistakes practice after practice, game after game.
by TravelingTexan on Jan 16, 2009 8:43 PM CST up reply actions
But the question is?
Do the Bears have a real o-line?
"The trouble with the world is that the stupid are cocksure and the intelligent are full of doubt." - Bertrand Russell
Nicely said, bigfatdrunk.
Carr is a terrific quarterback. He makes very quick reads, he’s great at getting the ball out quickly, and he really attacks opposing defenses vertically. You’ll rarely see him settle for check-down passes to the fullback. To be fair, Andre Johnson really wasn’t that great when Carr was here. He and the offensive line just had break-through years right when he left, and it wasn’t at all related to that.
Plus, Carolina’s offensive line was really terrible last year. It’s just a complete coincidence that Carr got replaced by Testaverde last year, yet they were the #1 seed in the NFC this year.
Like others before me has said, his field vision is really terrific. He’s great at identifying the blitz. At the most, only 250 of those sacks were on him. The rest were the product of a patchwork offensive line and bad receivers.
Take a chance. Carr could really stretch the field for you with his penchant for deep passes and allow Forte some running room
by Nashmeister on Jan 18, 2009 12:09 AM CST up reply actions
Carr stinks
Isn’t he pretty much the same guy as Grossman, but worse? Cannon arm but terrible decisions. Holds on to the ball too long, and fumbles too much.
Please no
Carr Is Nothing Like Grossman
Talent-wise, there is no comparison. No way you can compare Grossman to Carr
Maybe this has been said before
but that looks like a picture of gelato, not ice cream. Or is it supposed to be that way?
I always wondered why Carr never panned out, he seemed to have a lot of promise coming out of college. Then again, so did Cade McNOwn
I'm not so mean. I wouldn't ever go out to hurt anybody deliberately - unless it was, you know, important, like a league game or something. - Dick Butkus
wherein i earn my handle:
is it supposed to be ice cream i keep seeing the pink thing and thinking “ham!”.
by halfblindcubbiegirl on Jan 15, 2009 9:46 PM CST up reply actions
That has got to be the funniest comment I've ever read on here...
Things will get better as they improve...
yeah
i always wondered why it kept being flavor of the day…. it looks like ham!! flavored ham (unless its honey) is foul!
by halfblindcubbiegirl on Jan 16, 2009 3:33 PM CST up reply actions
Made me think of Napolean Dynamite.
And I like pineapple on my ham…
Things will get better as they improve...
I love stupid funny
but that movie didn’t make me laugh once.
by halfblindcubbiegirl on Jan 16, 2009 3:54 PM CST up reply actions
wow
that is impressive. That pic is gelato. I was doing a google search for ice cream looking for a similar picture, but this was the best, so I figured it wouldn’t be a big deal.
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Gelato is better than Ice cream anyways....
Hey dubya,
Here’s a flavor for you, Alex Smith.
Needs a change desperatly and is still young as well, only 23 and is going to be super cheap once the niners release him.
Thanks Windy!
Although my guess is that I’ve revealed myself to be a coffee-house snob if I know gelato – that’s the only place I’ve ever seen it sold here in the midwest.
I'm not so mean. I wouldn't ever go out to hurt anybody deliberately - unless it was, you know, important, like a league game or something. - Dick Butkus
Did ya...
Did ya have to mention Cade McNown… my tummy hurts now…
Just what we need. Another back up!!
I thought we were in need of a starter?? I don’t see why everyone is even lookin at these backups. Get a rookie sit him a year and then play him.. Worked for the bengals and soon for the browns!! Anyways I gave the back up thing some thought. How come nobody has brought up Derick Anderson or heisman winner Troy Smith who go shaft on the starting job in Baltimore due to illness and being put in the hospital??? Either one of these teams would probably be williing to trade..
I think it is fair to say
we aren’t going to find a guy who can just overtake Orton. Guys like McNabb or Warner will be resigned or too pricey. So we need to instead get the best possible backup in case we do have to go to him.
Being Who You Thought We Were Since 2005!
jerry was on the SCORE this AM
not sure what he said though…
Boers and Bernstein (sp?)
ripped us fans for ripping Jerry. Sometimes they have intelligent things to say; this was not one of their shining moments.
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