Bears GM for a Day: Top Off-Season Targets
OFFENSE
QB
Jerry Angelo wants to bring in a QB to compete with Kyle Orton. Instead of settling for one of the "available" options in free agency such as Kurt Warner, Kerry Collins, Jeff Garcia, Chris Simms or J.P. Losman, I suggest Mr. Angelo better get a little creative and enter the trade market. Here's a list a QBs who "could" be available for the right offer. But, you'll never know unless you make that offer.
Trade possibilities:
- Donovan McNabb, Eagles (to build instant success)
- Carson Palmer, Bengals (to try and rehab from injury)
- *Kevin O’Connell, Patriots (another Patriot's QB with classic pocket passer size at 6'5" 225lbs)
- *Colt Brennan, Redskins (a heck of a passing machine in college, who may not get a chance for a while behind Jason Campbell)
- Vince Young, Titans (a reclamation project, who may be helped by a change of scenery)
- Chad Henne, Dolphins
- Matt Hasselback, Seahawks
- Marc Bulger, Rams
- *Troy Smith, Ravens (added to this list due to popularity)
*O'Connell and Brennan are my top two choices here, as they'll be able to compete with Orton in '09, and may develop into the franchise QB we're looking for. O'Connell has spent his rookie season studying under Belichick with Brady and Cassel, and Brennan has spent his rookie year in Washington with QB guru Jim Zorn. The Bears are horrible at developing QBs, so why not bring in some good talent who's already being shaped by the better QB tudors in the league.
O-Line and RB
If Lovie Smith wants to call his team a "running team," then perhaps he should assemble an offensive line that can run the ball with some authority, and acquire another running back to compliment Matt Forte. According to the fellas at Football Outsiders, the Bears O-line finished the 2008 season ranked 27th in "Stuffed Rank." That means... well, they get stuffed more often than 26 other teams in the NFL.
- Vernon Carey, RT/G, Dolphins, Free Agent
Former 1st round pick. A big 350lb mountain, who played guard at the "U" of Miami. He's flopped between G and RT in the NFL, and has been starting at RT for the Dolphins this season. Carey is the type of lineman who could really help improve the Bears running game. - Stacy Andrews, T/G, Bengals, Free Agent
At 6'7" 340lbs, Andrews would a be good consolation prize if the Bears are unable to land Carey. Andrews has been a versatile lineman for the Bengals, used in a similar manner to how the Bears use John St. Clair... except he's significantly bigger (my goal as imaginary Bears GM is to add major size to the O-line to run behind). The Bengals placed the franchise tag on him last year, and it's undetermined if they'll use the tag on him again. - John St. Clair, T/G, Bears, Free Agent
Re-sign Mr. St. Clair, who did an admirable job in 2008, even though he was forced to play out of position at LT. The Chis Williams era will begin for the Bears in 2009... boom or bust. But, St. Clair is versatile enough to provide the Bears with depth on both sides of the line, and may even be an in-house candidate to win a competition at RT over John Tait, if the Bears do not add a new RT in free agency. - Paul Fanaika, G, Arizona State, Projected 3rd-4th round pick
At 6'6" 337lbs, Fanaika is an excellent run blocker who paved the way for Arizona State's top two RBs to average over 5 yards per carry last season. - Michael Bush, RB, Raiders, Trade
Former Heisman candidate at Louisville. The Raiders drafted him with the first overall pick on day two of the 2007 draft (4th round), and red-shirted him last year, while he recovered from injury. This year, the 245lb RB has returned to form, and nearly got traded to the San Diego Chargers in mid-season at the trading deadline. - Rashad Jennings, RB, Liberty, Projected 3rd-4th round pick
A big back at 6'1" 232lbs... Jennings is projected to run a 4.46 40. He ran for exactly 1,500 yards last year on 5.7 ypc and scored 19 TDs. He also caught 24 passes out of the backfield. He'd be my ideal RB with big size to compliment Forte, if we can't acquire Michael Bush. Video - Garrett Wolfe, RB, Bears
If you've been watching football this year at all, you've surely become familiar with the name Darren Sproles, who at 5'6" 181lbs, was as electrifying in college as Garrett Wolfe was. Sproles was drafted by the Chargers in 2005, and it really took him until his 3rd season in the NFL (2007) to show his value... and his 4th season (2008) to make a huge impact. It's about time the Bears start understanding how to use their own Darren Sproles... Wolfe is a play maker and elusive runner, when he gets the ball in the open field.
WR
Unfortunately, it's slim pickings in this years free agent crop of WRs. And that's a big problem for the Bears, as their group of WRs is among the worst in the league and is in dire need of talent. Adding further insult, is that it'll be hard to convince the #1 WR in this year's free agent class, T.J. Houshmandzadeh, to come play in Chicago, when he'll likely have offers to go elswhere with better QBs and a better opportunity at a Super Bowl. The Bears will have to get creative in order to add an experienced WR.
- Anquan Boldin, WR, Cardinals, Trade
Not much of an explanation needed here... Boldin wants to get paid, and that's not going to happen in Arizona. It would likely cost the Bears multiple draft picks based on recent trades (Randy Moss, T.O., and Roy Williams), however it may not require a 1st round pick. - Shaun McDonald, WR, Lions, Free Agent
McDonald has been a quality receiver in this league for 6 years now, and has played behind Torry Holt, Roy Williams, and Calvin Johnson. He had 79 catches in 2007, under Mike Martz's offense in Detroit, but dropped off this year for the 0-16 Lions. He's not very big at 5'10" 185, but he gets open and catches the ball... more than we can say for Rashied Davis. He'd be a big improvement, and give our QB a reliable target. - Jacoby Jones, WR, Texans, Trade
Jones (6'2" 210lbs 4.4) was drafted by the Texans in the 3rd round in 2007... and has done next to nothing for them except tantalize them with his electrifying speed. WR coach Daryl Drake has a done a pretty good job developing Bernard Berrian (who was all raw speed when we drafted him), and has made progress with Devin Hester. Perhaps Drake can work with Jones, who has more pure speed and size than any other WR on the Bears.
DEFENSE
Safety
The Bears have had a revolving door of mediocre football players at safety over the last two seasons (Adam Archuleta, Brandon McGowan, Kevin Payne, Daniel Manning, Craig Steltz). Given the fact that Lovie Smith is married to the base Cover 2, the safety position is critical to the success of the Bears defense. With Mike Brown aging, and possibly not returning to the Bears in 2009, acquiring a top talent and leader at safety should be among the top priorities of the off-season. Lack of talent at safety may have been the primary reason why Bob Babich's CBs played a very soft cushion off the line of scrimmage, allowing WRs to get into their routes very easily this year. This is a major contradiction to one of the main rules of the Cover 2: jamming WRs at the line.
- Charles Tillman, CB, Bears
When the Bears first drafted Tillman, Greg Blache's opinion was that #33 could be a pro-bowler at either CB or S. Well, after a sub-par season in pass coverage, I say it's time Tillman moves to FS, where he can roam more like a ball hawk and also continue to force fumbles. With his move to safety, Corey Graham, Trumaine McBride, Nathan Vasher, and Zachary Bowman can man the depth chart at CB, while Daniel Manning serves as the nickel back, and utility DB. - Taylor Mays, S, USC, Projected 1st round pick
The 6'3" 230lb Mays could be a force in any secondary... his supposed 40 time of 4.32 seconds is sure to get Lovie Smith's attention. He's played FS at USC, but his size makes him an ideal SS at the NFL level. Mays is currently projected to be a mid-first round pick, and likely the first safety taken in the draft.
DT
With the Bears needing to use 8 men in the box all season long (accompanied by blitzes) to stop the run, it's time for Lovie to evolve his one-gap front, and add a run-stuffing DT to compliment a healthy Tommie Harris. The line performed a lot better when Dusty Dvoracek was replaced by non-prototypical fat man Anthony Adams. Aside from top FA, Albert Haynesworth, this year's free agent class is void of run stuffers, and there aren't many big men in this year's draft class either.
- Marcus Tubbs, DT, Seahawks, Free Agent
The former 1st round pick out of Texas in 2004 is a heck of a talent... but Tubbs has been plagued by injuries which have forced him to miss almost all of 2007, and left him completely out of football in 2008. At only age 27, Tubbs (6'3" 320lb) could be a comeback player of the year candidate for someone if he regains his form. Would be a low risk, high reward type of signing. - Shaun Cody, DT, Lions, Free Agent
Assuming that Rod Marinelli joins the Bears coaching staff, he may ask to bring along Cody, who hasn't quite fulfilled his potential yet in the NFL, after being a force in college at USC. At 6'4" 310lbs, he's not the massive run-stuffer I'm looking for, but still gives the Bears a little more size and could be a good rotational player. The Lions drafted Cody with the 37th pick overall (2nd round) in 2005.
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Very good and creative post.
I don’t know how hard it would be to move Tillman to Safety or whether he would succeed at this point in his career after that kind of move, but in theory it sounds good. Also, I’m not sure if making big hits would hurt his body. He was having a lot of shoulder problems this year. Still in theory, it sounds good.
I also like the idea of moving Briggs to the middle. He seems to have more speed and power than Urlacher, but I don’t know if he would cover the deep middle well. Again, I’m not sure moves would work, but in theory it sounds good.
I thought you did an excellent job of being realistic with possible trades and things that could actually happen and also posing real issues that we could tackle.
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by #23 on Jan 4, 2009 7:01 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
RB's
I’m just throwin this out there and it may have been discussed before, but what about goin after Edge? I think he still has some good legs left and if we split him with Forte, i would take that backfield any day of the week. My only worry is his asking price, but with the numbers he’s put up the past two years he surely can’t expect a large contract. I think he just got in the wrong system in AZ. He also seems like he has somewhat of a head on him; I know a lot of other RB’s would have bitched all season about the playing time, but he didnt say anything until this past week and his statement was pretty much the truth.
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by steveo61086 on Jan 4, 2009 7:17 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Colt Brennan
I live in Hawaii and as a result of that had the privilege of watching Brennan play college and set the single season TD record. With that said I think that as of now he has the same problem as Orton and can’t throw downfield and his college numbers were heavily inflated by the system he was in.
Another name I’ve seen before and I like due to him more than likely being stuck on the bench is Troy Smith. I may be the only one that would want Smith but he can get the ball downfield and he has the ability to scramble. With the line the way it is now that ability would certainly come in handy to prevent a ton of sacks.
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by CHCOWNTHECENTRAL on Jan 4, 2009 9:04 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
I really like Troy Smith's talent...
But,. I’m concerned about his height, even with his mobility. Although, one could argue that at 6’0", he’s the same height as Michael Vick. But, when you see him line up behind center, like he did today for a snap, he just looks undersized behind that line.
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by SackMan on Jan 4, 2009 9:37 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Height
Height is an issue that comes up a lot for short QBs. I understand why it is a concern but I feel that sometimes to much is put into a QBs height. You mentioned him being the same height as Vick but also a guy who was possibly the best QB in the NFL this year is 6 foot tall. Drew Brees threw for over 5,000 yards and 34 tds while only being 6’
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by CHCOWNTHECENTRAL on Jan 4, 2009 9:43 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
While admittingly...
Just because a guy’s not 6’5", doesn’t mean he can’t be a successful NFL QB. It sure helps to see down field over all those giant lineman, and survive the beating when you’re bigger.
Big Ben 6’5"
Phillip Rivers 6’5"
Peyton Manning 6’5"
Tom Brady 6’4"
Joe Flacco 6’6"
Matt Ryan 6’4"
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by SackMan on Jan 4, 2009 10:01 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Troy Smith
is not that good. Joe Flacco is a rookie and was starter over him, not only because Smith was sick and lost a lot of weight, but because Troy Smith will never be a starting QB in this league. At least, not on a good team he won’t.
And for all the Chicago Bears fans who want a franchise QB, yes, height does matter. Percentages are disproportionately in favor of height at the QB position, if you want to predict likely success. For every Drew Brees there are seven tall QBs that are franchise worthy.
I’ve been a Grossman supporter since he’s been a Bear, because he has the talent, but I believe his height has helped him not fulfill his QB potential — and probably never will.
I don’t know why we keep going with short QBs in Chicago, because it’s downright not working. Erik Kramer was the best we’ve had, then Jim Miller. Cade McNown blew chunks, Rex Grossman has not been consistent. Henry Burris was a crappy CFL QBj, Kordell Stewart …ha, Moses Moreno …double ha.
Besides Orton, the only other taller QB I can recall being on the roster (besides an old Brian Griese at 6’3") was the statue known as Jonathan Quinn.
Instead of drafting busts to play back up linebacker for two picks every year, how about throw a bone at some of the potential tall QBs in the draft. I’d rather waste a 3rd round pick on the possible but failed future franchise QB than on Hunter Hillenmeyer’s replacement. Linebackers are much easier to pick up in free agency. QB is a position we should draft every year until we find the guy.
Please, unless you draft one of the top 4 LBs in the first two rounds of 2009, please draft a QB and not rely solely on Caleb Hanie developing in the next year or two. Hanie was pretty awesome in the preseason but that’s the preseason. And, at the most important position you can’t play conservative and rely on one player’s potential. That’s why the Patriots have the QB play they do.
They don’t wait to draft QBs until they have a Pro Bowler and have a spot to develop one. They draft them every year because they understand shelf life. They have a better philosophy and understanding of the important of the QB position.
I like what the Dolphins did. They really created competition, and the veteran winner rose to the occasion. At one point they had four or five QBs on the roster, two that had started and Henne and Beck. We need at least 3 QBs to come in and compete with Orton.
Perhaps Derek Anderson will get cut? He’d be worth signing without a bonus, as he was overpaid for one good year. But, his potential is there and I can’t see the new Browns GM and coach keeping the two there.
by ethan a on Jan 5, 2009 9:44 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Jim Miller was the best we had.
Every time that guy started we looked like a brand new team.
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by #23 on Jan 5, 2009 1:27 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Rex Grossman- 6' 0"
and his decision making skills are worse than Rod Blagojevich’s
height isn’t everything, but it sure helps
by SamuraiMike50 on Jan 8, 2009 11:29 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
if you're no physically gifted
better maximize the potential of that lump 3 feet above your ass.
by mike b on Jan 9, 2009 11:51 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
or start doing the tim tebow jump pass...
…every single down
by SamuraiMike50 on Jan 9, 2009 5:15 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Worked for Favre
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by Adam T on Jan 10, 2009 6:48 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I like Smith too.
He looked very promising with the Ravens last season and this preseason.
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by #23 on Jan 5, 2009 1:26 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Nice writing here.
Do you think that kid from the Raiders whose name I can never spell without googling – the cornerback they franchised last year – is going to have too high an asking price? Because he’s the exact sort of player that could make our defense terrifying again. And he’d sure go a long way to solving any problems that’d emerge from shifting Tillman to safety.
I’m intrigued by O’Connell, though I don’t know anything about the player he was in college. Brennan doesn’t interest me much – he seems like he’s another Orton. Which means he may end up being a successful quarterback in the league – I like Orton a lot – but it seems a little redundant to me. I think we can safely strike McNabb from the list after today’s performance, but Vince Young and Troy Smith are both pretty intriguing prospects, too. Young is probably the most gifted player between himself, Smith, and O’Connell, and Lovie’s coaching style might be the right sort of thing for him (and how many players, these days, would you say that about?). Do you think Tennessee still has hopes for him, or are they looking elsewhere? Collins can’t be their permanent solution.
Also, the Sproles/Wolfe comparison is dead-on. That kid has shown himself to be a hard worker, and if we improve the line a bit to give him a fighting chance, I like the potential there.
(finally, an aside to WCG – I thought I remembered you mentioning that you were looking for an additional writer or two for the main page. Here’s a vote for SackMan)
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by itsugly on Jan 4, 2009 9:53 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Thanks for the kudos
Nnamdi Asomugha is an elite cover CB… and elite cover CBs command some of the highest contracts in the NFL, because they’re are only a few, and they can take away half a football field. In essence, the top CBs and top LTs are maybe the two highest paid positions, because of supply and demand.
That being said… the Bears base defense is a Cover 2… a zone… which reduces the need for top man-to-man coverage within the system.
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by SackMan on Jan 4, 2009 10:13 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
OConnell isn't an option
the Pats cannot keep Cassel. They either have to let him go or franchise him and trade him. That leaves OConnell as their backup. They drafted him earlier than most were expecting him to go, so I don’t think we can get a hold of him.
The real point is the Bears need to call everybody about everybody. Just to see if maybe there is a possibility. The Bengals aren’t going to get rid of Palmer, but why not get them on the phone and just bring up the topic. They need to look under every rock.
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by Adam T on Jan 5, 2009 12:17 AM CST reply actions 0 recs
Well... the Patriots just announced they will franchise Cassel
But will wait on Brady’s health to determine if they will keep Cassel or not. If Brady’s not ready to go, they’ll keep both of them for next season.
At least get them on the phone.
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by SackMan on Jan 5, 2009 8:24 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I saw on ESPN
that the Pats will be on the hook for $30 million next year between Brady ($16 million) and Cassell($14 million if they franchise him). That’s ridiculous when you have major holes on D.
by McRipper on Jan 5, 2009 8:33 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I agree get them on the phone
but they are not going to keep both Cassel and Brady long term. You cannot keep that much money wrapped up in a bench player. Maybe due to health you have to role with it for 1 year, but at some point you have to ship one of them. Regardless OConnell is going to be somebody’s backup.
Secondly, OConnell is a 1st or 2nd year guy. Hasn’t seen the field in meaningful time yet, do you really want to bring him in? Don’t you want a proven guy if possible.
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by Adam T on Jan 5, 2009 8:46 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I don't necessarily want a "proven" guy.
That’s being narrow minded. Every season in the NFL, a younger QB who’s been a back-up, comes to the forefront and has a “breakout” year. My goal is to find him now, before he becomes a household name.
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by SackMan on Jan 5, 2009 8:53 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
O'Connell
I don’t even know who that guy is so I can’t comment on him. I’ve seen him mentioned but all I know is that he’s Brady’s backup’s backup. I really don’t know WCG. I’d like a proven commodity at the helm, but let’s face it, they don’t grow on trees. Proven commodity on the Pats, Eagles, or Bucs, does not mean proven commodity on the Bears. I think best case scenario, which I’ve been saying for about a month, is to fix the O-line. If we can get a line that can block for Orton and Forte, and pick-up a Housh, or maybe Boldin trade, this offense will be pretty formidable.
In terms of Orton’s competition, I’d like to see someone who isn’t expecting a starting gig to go out and win the job, unless it’s Palmer or McNabb. It needs to be somebody with mobility who can get outside and make some plays. That’s what I’d like to see. Fix the O-line first, and the rest will come together.
by McRipper on Jan 5, 2009 9:01 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I'm just tired
of the wait and see approach. On the comment thread for the draft everybody was raving about this guy, but NE took him, but he hasn’t done anything yet. If we bring him in how many years do we have to wait? And do you really want Ron Turner being the guy who brings him along?
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by Adam T on Jan 5, 2009 9:10 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Agreed
I think they should fix the O-Line. Pick up someone who can run block and play RT in the offseason and than draft a run blocking LG in the 1st round. We all saw this season what Forte could do this season with basically no help from the line, imagine if he had a Vikings, Giants or Panthers caliber O-line. Plus if given all day even the Bears weak cast of WRs should be able to get open giving Orton or whoever someone to throw to.
by chase17 on Jan 5, 2009 9:11 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Stick with Orton next season.
He’s playing for a new contract anyways. Get a WR. Draft a saftey.
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by ImmanuelKant on Jan 5, 2009 1:27 AM CST reply actions 0 recs
Either way...
The Bears need to add a QB to compete with Orton. Rex is a free agent, and will likely move on. That just leaves Orton and Hanie… and Angelo was very forward on his comments that he wants to bring in competition at the QB position.
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by SackMan on Jan 5, 2009 8:26 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Some good ideas...
hope Angelo reads this. The O-line should be priority #1.
by Hatchetm on Jan 5, 2009 6:46 AM CST reply actions 0 recs
Taylor Mays - Yes! Yes! Draft Him
"The trouble with the world is that the stupid are cocksure and the intelligent are full of doubt." - Bertrand Russell
by phastphil on Jan 5, 2009 8:11 AM CST reply actions 0 recs
absolutely
This guy could help shore up our D in a hurry.
by tfrabotta on Jan 5, 2009 11:27 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I agree!
He might be gone by 18 though.
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by ImmanuelKant on Jan 5, 2009 11:37 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Right position, right school, wrong player...
We want the Ellison kid not Mays, for a few reasons. Ellison was responsable for the play calling in the secondary, and even told Mays where to go before the snap. Also he started for 3 years without injury. All of those things combined makes me think Ellison instead of Mays (but why not both??).
by escolio on Jan 7, 2009 2:07 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Reliable and team player
Tory Holt is fed up with the Rams. I think he could be had for next to nothing.
by luckie815 on Jan 5, 2009 8:57 AM CST reply actions 0 recs
That's interesting
Is this speculation or have you heard this somewhere?
by McRipper on Jan 5, 2009 9:02 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
He's been whining for two years.
He hated the old coach and this offseason was talking about playing with Carolina with his brother in 09. He’s sick of losing and it is hurting his numbers. Holt is future HOFer.
I don’t think he could had for next to nothing. He wants cash like everyone else and he’s earned it.
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by #23 on Jan 5, 2009 1:31 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Garrett Wolfe
I agree with your idea about Wolfe. I always thought they should use him like a Reggie Bush or Darren Sproles. Lining him up in the slot and using him in the screen game. Because I think he is a better receiver then Forte and with his speed he would be good in the open field. Wolfe has shown that in the preseason but hasn’t really been given the chance in the regular season.
by chase17 on Jan 5, 2009 9:05 AM CST reply actions 0 recs
He should be cut
he is a nice guy but is too limited. Those other guys are much stronger then him so unless he puts on 20-30lbs he still won’t be able to break a tackle or block anyone. We could use that spot for someone who can contribute.
by tfrabotta on Jan 5, 2009 11:28 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Turner's call
I don’t think that Turner really knows what to do with Wolfe. I think the guy could be a weapon, but he’s used in the wrong situations. A screen with Wolfe is predictable, but tosses and swing passes might work better if he was stronger and could break tackles.
by junkhorse on Jan 17, 2009 3:29 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Charles Tillman
is a great CB and I don’t know what’s wrong with people feeling he should be put at safety. That’s the most insane move to make, akin to moving Danieal Manning around and around.
Tillman was and is one of the best CBs in the league. He hasn’t lost a step, and he rarely gets beat. His play may have seemed down this year, but that’s because we had a horrible scheme with no underneath help, all year. Peanut still defends passes and causes TOs from the CB position.
The one play he was beat on was against Berrian on that 90-something yarder. Other than that, he’s solid. Trumain McBride is average and tiny. Vasher gets this next year to prove he belongs. Bowman has potential if he’s not hurt, and Corey Graham is okay right now but can’t stop improving.
Steltz needs to add 10-15 pounds of muscle and learn how to tackle, or he won’t last in the league. There are a couple of safeties in the draft besides mays that could fit our scheme — Patrick Chung of Oregon and William Moore of Mizzou —who is built like a LB and could be a good run defender. Nic Harris in the third round (Oklahoma) or possibly 2nd if he does well in the Championship game, would be a nice Brown protege. Harris is also LB-sized with great instincts.
I’d personally like the 1st pick to be a Brian Cushing or Laurinaitis. Or Juaqin Iglesias at WR from Okie.
We could also go OT in the first again and I might not be as mad this year. Chris Williams needs serious improvement or he won’t work out at LT. When he did come in to games he was getting handled and looked super slow off the line.
by ethan a on Jan 5, 2009 10:13 AM CST reply actions 0 recs
i concur mostly here
he’s big and strong and should manhandle the WR at the line. our safeties can’t cover a lick, so he has too much responsibility.
by Hatchetm on Jan 5, 2009 10:39 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Tillman
might be able to make a ton of big plays at FS… where he can face the QB, and jump routes to get to the ball….
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by SackMan on Jan 5, 2009 11:10 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Taylor Mays, Tillman @ S, and Others
Yeah, I think Taylor Mays is my favorite choice for the Bears first round pick but I think with the 49ers picking before us, Mike Singletary might beat us to the punch. He’s already said that he’d like help at safety for next year and if Taylor Mays comes into the NFL playing like he played in college, then the NFL could have it’s next great safety. I also really like the idea of Tillman moving to safety. This is something a friend of mine mentioned recently, and being that I truly enjoy Tillman the football player, but was ultimately disappointed with Tillman the corner this year, I think this could truly make Tillman emerge as the pro-bowler we all know he’s capable of being.
Anquan Boldin needs to be a Bear next year. If we’re going to do anything with any inexperienced QB at the helm, we’d be greatly helping ourselves with an established WR to help the development of whoever that QB might be as well as the rest of the WR corps. Anquan Boldin can make this offense solid as hell. With his possession and YAC abilities, Devin’s ridiculous speed, Brandon Lloyd’s occasional circus catches, our stud TE’s, and a young talented running back all the Bears would need is for Chris Williams to not be bust and maybe make some new additions to this line. A good supporting cast will help a young QB excel, and Anquan Boldin added to this roster along with improvement of the offensive line could make this whole offense look 5 times better than what we were shown this season.
by SCABBYEGGS on Jan 5, 2009 10:21 AM CST reply actions 0 recs
GM for a day?
Things to do.
1. Fire Bob Babbich
2. Go Golfing
Recipe for instant success.
by jeepdays on Jan 5, 2009 10:33 AM CST reply actions 0 recs
troy smith?
seriously? people really want to go after troy smith?
maybe charlie ward is available too. or jason white. or eric crouch.
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by big_lowitzki on Jan 5, 2009 10:44 AM CST reply actions 0 recs
yes, their all available
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by #23 on Jan 5, 2009 1:33 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
We need to forget about FA QB
except for maybe Jon Kitna..as a back up. Orton is our QB for next year whether we like it or not. Draft a young guy in the 3-4 rd and see what happens. We need to focus on safety, runblocking Olineman and a DE who can rush the passer. Those are our biggest needs. Maybe trade for Boldin, I just hope the guy doesn’t come in here and look like Moose did..
by tfrabotta on Jan 5, 2009 11:33 AM CST reply actions 0 recs
I'd take Kitna at backup if he isn't too overpriced.
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by #23 on Jan 5, 2009 1:34 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
An o-line is all I care about really
That could open up holes for Forte and start opening up plays for Orton.
by Arbusto on Jan 5, 2009 1:09 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Boldin
Boldin had only 5 receptions for more than 15 yards and he had 90+ receptions and over 1000 yards receiving… If that is the recipe for a Bears receiver, I don’t know what is.
by jeepdays on Jan 5, 2009 1:10 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
You were watching the playoff game. I saw that too. Pretty amazing stat.
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by #23 on Jan 5, 2009 1:35 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Let's give it another go with Orton.
What do we have to lose, really? Prior to the ankle injury Orton was playing pro-bowl caliber with very average WR’s. As GM of the day I go after T.J. or Boldin who might be enticed a little easier than we think simply because they would be instant #1 with super star status in the CHI. So, that gives us T.J. or Boldin with Hester and let’s say Brandon Loyd. I feel pretty good about that. And who knows, we may even go after Jeremy Macklin.
We have so many needs and issues, Jerry Angelo really has his work cut out for him.
C’mon Jerry, you are now a Chicago tough guy, push your weight around and make some things happen. Sometimes people just need an offer that they “can’t refuse”. Do we understand each other?
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by Haightminow on Jan 5, 2009 1:24 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Sign Housh and an OL, draft DE and safety in rounds 1 and 2, WR-3rd. Sign a FA old QB like Griese, Kitna, or someone else to a 2 year deal.
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by #23 on Jan 5, 2009 1:37 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Just like the QB search, I’d be making a list of potentially under appreciated receivers to go after. If we arent able to make a major splash here, then we have to bring in multiple guys with upside otherwise it wont look a whole lot different then this year.
by reprisal on Jan 5, 2009 5:00 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
One guy I'd like to see brought in to compete with Orton is
Luke McCown. He’s been the Bucs backup for a few years now, but it seems that he’s not in their future plans. The numbers he put up in 07 when he started 3 games were very promising:
5 G 3 GS 94 Comp 139 Att 67.6 Pct 1,009 Yds 7.3 Avg 5 TD 3 INT 15 Sck 104 Scky 91.7 Rate
Even if he doesn’t work out, he still has experience as a backup. He’s one guy I’ve been looking at for a long time, and I doubt it’ll take more than a mid round pick to pry him away.
Thoughts?
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by thecoolest on Jan 6, 2009 7:04 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Absolutely, why not?
He’s been around the league, and hopefully he can compete with Orton. Regardless, we need someone to be ahead of Caleb Hanie this year….unless Hanie just tears up everyone in the preseason. Everyone not involved with the 3rd string, anyways.
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by ChiFan13 on Jan 6, 2009 9:36 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I have to disagree here on McCown
I went to college with the guy (Louisiana Tech), and didn’t like him even on the college level. He throws a lot of picks, and has always had Happy Feet Syndrome. He is a QB who has a decent skill set, but has been unable to break bad habits since joining the big league. Yes, we could probably get him cheap, but why? I don’t think Luke would be able to contribute anything, plus he has a reputation for not being able to lead and motivate, which also carried over from college.
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by Dane Noble on Jan 7, 2009 11:45 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
i think it will be hard to sign a Housh
or any FA WR, when they are getting offers from better teams with better passing offenses, draft a WR in any of the first 3 rounds, sign an OT like Jordan Gross, and a DE, an overhaul on the secondary (goodbye Vasher), bring Marinelli in for the D-line and assistant head coach (another Lovie Crony, i’m sure his son in law will come with), draft Mark Sanchez (he made every Penn State DB look like Danieal Manning), get a FB who can block, and an LB
easy as pie
by SamuraiMike50 on Jan 8, 2009 8:41 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
i am digging
the sanchez idea more and more. what’s his biggest “issue?”
if you rebuild this oline you can win with with orton. but they still need to draft a qb.
by mike b on Jan 8, 2009 10:13 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
i agree they can win w/ orton and a rebuilt line
but i think we need someone who can make the deep throws, and lead a team, a game managing QB use to be acceptable when we had a prolific defense, but now that we have a D that is suspect at times i think we need a game changing signal caller
Sanchez pros: quick release, strong arm, accurate, good mobility, “most physically gifted quarterback ever to play at USC”
i can’t find a scout who has an actual criticism of Sanchez, except that he has battled an arm issue and the people that want him to return to school to refine his repertoire
i think Sanchez is outstanding and this is coming from the most anti-USC source on WCG
by SamuraiMike50 on Jan 8, 2009 11:07 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Sanchez
is a guy that I really love. He’d be a steal in the second imo. Although he seems like a boom or bust type player. There’s also a possibility he’ll go back to school next season, and probably build up his draft status even more.
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by thecoolest on Jan 8, 2009 11:20 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Do you really want a QB in the second round?
if you draft a QB in the 2nd or 4rd round, your success rate is 1 out of 31, or 3%

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by SackMan on Jan 9, 2009 7:41 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Typo: 2nd or 3rd round
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by SackMan on Jan 9, 2009 7:42 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
This article
doesn’t have sufficient statistical significance, thought, logic or other evidence to mean a whole lot. Sure always passing over QBs with your top ten picks would be silly. But where does that leave us?
by reprisal on Jan 9, 2009 12:45 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I'm saying he's a 1st round talent
that would be a steal in the 2nd.
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by thecoolest on Jan 9, 2009 4:38 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Ahh the draft
who else needs qbs v. how many qbs in this draft class can start in the NFL
by No It All on Jan 9, 2009 4:54 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Also
James Davis would be a great pick in the draft to solve our short yardage issues. I’ve seen him everywhere on the draft boards, from a first rounder all the way to a sixth rounder. If he falls, I would love for us to take him.
Another short yardage back I’ve heard rave reviews about is Jason Snelling from the Falcons. I highly doubt they’d give him up for nothing, but he’s proven he can move the chains. Hopefully they’d be more willing to move him since he’s their third RB.
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by thecoolest on Jan 9, 2009 7:41 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
i'm a big fan of drafting james davis
davis/forte could be thunder and lightning
such the way jerome bettis/willie parker, chris/johnson/lendale wight, deangelo williams/jonathan stewart is
if he is around in the say the 4th, take him
by SamuraiMike50 on Jan 10, 2009 2:22 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
That's why I'd love Michael Bush!
James Davis isn’t very big though… Forte’s actually bigger then he is.
I’d love Rashad Jennings from Liberty (6’1" 230)… or how about getting Jorvorskie Lane? The 285lb fullback from Texas A&M. The guy’s scored 49 touchdowns in 4 years at A&M!
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by SackMan on Jan 10, 2009 7:54 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
i see were you are going, Bush could also work as "thunder"
i’m not sure the Raiders will trade him
or if JA has the balls to pull off the trade
by SamuraiMike50 on Jan 10, 2009 4:35 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
No on Lane
I’ve watched him for four years. He’s not an athlete, he’s a person who can just run into people.
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by ChiFan13 on Jan 10, 2009 5:14 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
But... wouldn't he be better than McKie?
Open up some friggin holes for once!
Remember how Corey Schlesinger used to flatten Urlacher into the ground?
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by SackMan on Jan 10, 2009 6:52 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Yes, he would be
That’s not saying much…McKie sucks :)
Yes, he’s a big dude. But honestly, he’s built just like McKie….as agile as a semi, slow, and lumbering. Frankly, I’d rather not waste another draft pick on a future McKie.
If we’re gonna run the FB dive constantly, I’d rather get an actual threat, like LeRon McClain. That’s the kinda fella I want.
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by ChiFan13 on Jan 10, 2009 10:35 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
T.J. is a no for me
No offense to anything that anybody has said about Houz, but didn’t we try this already with Moose? When we signed Muhammad to his monster contract, he was 31 and had a season line of 93 rec, 1405 yrds and 16 tds. T.J.‘s stats from last season? 92 recs, 904 yrds and 4 tds. While T.J.s had better years (like when Carson played and Ocho-Cinco was still alive), he doesn’t seem to fair well when he’s stuck with a crappy quarterback and he’s the only option on the team. I can’t think that this won’t be setting the Bears up for the exact same situation they went through.
I’d love to add Boldin to the mix, despite his recent injury troubles. He’s proved that he can carry a team by himself. When he was a rookie, there was nobody else on the Cardinals worth a damn and the guy still caught 100 passes for more than 1300 yrds. He’s the guy the Bears need to target. He has made plays his entire career and he’s worth giving up a second round pick for, but JA never has the guts to make a trade like this. It would certainly give Hester a lot of help in his development and I think that it would make the Bears offense exciting again.
by RestlessSoul on Jan 27, 2009 10:41 AM CST reply actions 0 recs

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