SB*Nation Highlights TO/ Bears Rumor
by Dane Noble on Oct 13, 2009 1:31 PM CDT
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While it is rare that the Chicago Bears get front-page attention on MSM outlets, our very own SB*Nation has written a piece that is featured on their front page right now. In light of the topics discussed recently here at WCG, I thought it would be fun to post this on our front page as well. An excerpt:
T.O. to Bears" is currently the 15th most-searched item on Google, and has a hotness level of "medium" as everyone tries to stay on top of this story.
Some of you think that Terrell Owens is over-the-hill, and don't like the idea of his antics here in Chicago. But imagine the damage Jay Cutler and Owens could do together...
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Pick up the phone, Jerry
It’s underneath your Harry Potter books.
I'M A MAN! I'M 23!
by ChiFan13 on Oct 13, 2009 1:34 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
DO IT!!!
Low risk, High reward.
by Ryan21 on Oct 13, 2009 1:37 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions 0 recs
Man you guys would....................
Like to see T.O. take away playing time from Knox or Hester?
by Dozjah on Oct 13, 2009 1:43 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions 0 recs
No.
I’d like to continue to see Knox on the field w/ TO…put hester back on full time return duties.
by Pretender85 on Oct 13, 2009 4:17 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
No
I would rather see Hester’s speed on the field on more than just kickoffs. That speed needs to ne taken advantage as much as possible. You can’t coach speed.
by Dozjah on Oct 13, 2009 4:36 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions 0 recs
Why not?
just have 4 WR sets and make everyone happy?
"Repetition is only good when you've been winning." - Valet
by propheteer on Oct 13, 2009 4:42 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
With 4 wides
You would have No Olsen or Clark and no fullback blocking for Forte.
by Dozjah on Oct 13, 2009 5:04 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions 0 recs
No need for a FB
if the idea is to spread out the defense. Within the 4 WR set the lineup would include 5 linemen, Olsen, Hester, Knox, Forte, TO, and Cutler. Turner could mix and match Bennett in there giving one of those other receivers a break from time to time.
"Repetition is only good when you've been winning." - Valet
by propheteer on Oct 13, 2009 5:33 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Im glad you are not the Bears G.M
Or else we wouldn’t have any young talent to develop at WR. We would only have 35 year old WR’s on the team. We would only have proven locker room cancers on our team. Thanks now I know what you look for in a football player.
by Dozjah on Oct 13, 2009 4:33 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions 0 recs
What..................................................
Would the Bears have to give up? If it isn’t a 4th rounder or lower then T.O isn’t worth setting our WR corps development back a season.
by Dozjah on Oct 13, 2009 1:40 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions 0 recs
I agreee it depends on what would need to be given up. Think they are interested in Rashied?
by brands735 on Oct 13, 2009 1:44 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
What?
We wouldn’t set back any development.
I'M A MAN! I'M 23!
by ChiFan13 on Oct 13, 2009 1:50 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yes we would
Because T.O. takes a starting WR spot from Hester or Bennett
by Dozjah on Oct 13, 2009 1:57 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions 0 recs
Do you think Bennett is better than Owens?
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Just because it can be done on Madden NFL does not automatically make it a viable option in real life.
by Dane Noble on Oct 13, 2009 1:59 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Im just saying
Look at both of their receiving numbers from this season. And yes I do think Bennett is better a better teammate don’t you?
by Dozjah on Oct 13, 2009 2:07 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions 0 recs
He didn't ask about him being a teammate
Do you think Earl Bennett is a better WR than Terrell Owens?
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by ChiFan13 on Oct 13, 2009 2:08 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Exactly.
The comment was “Because T.O. takes a starting WR spot from Hester or Bennett.”
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Just because it can be done on Madden NFL does not automatically make it a viable option in real life.
by Dane Noble on Oct 13, 2009 2:20 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
TO is a borderline h.o.f
Player Earl Bennett is only in his fourth game as a starting WR. I’m not saying that he is better than TO. What I’m saying is who will be the Better WR in 3 to 5 years. TO will be 40 years old by then and out of football. Bennett will still be 20 something in the next 3 to 5 years. So right now Bennett isn’t better but long term he fits the Bears plans more than a 1/2 season of cry baby droppassaholic TO aka team obliterater.
by Dozjah on Oct 13, 2009 2:23 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions 0 recs
So no need to bring players in
if they won’t be able to contribute 3-5 years down the road? Were you against signing Orlando Pace?
Should we not field the best possible starters each game, but rather only starters who will be around years down the road?
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Just because it can be done on Madden NFL does not automatically make it a viable option in real life.
by Dane Noble on Oct 13, 2009 2:47 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
No I wasnt against signing Pace
But he was a free agent the bears didn’t have to give up draft picks or slow the development of young talent too get him. Chris Williams moved to the other side of the field not too the bench. These are two totally different situations.
by Dozjah on Oct 13, 2009 3:17 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions 0 recs
TO is a first ballot hall of famer.
No need for the borderline qualification.
Metal sharpens metal.
And this guy right here understands and knows what leadership is all about: The coach, the hall of famer......... Dick Butka! George Ryan
by dakoose on Oct 13, 2009 2:48 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Well yeah you are
Right about him being a 1st ballot HOF player.
by Dozjah on Oct 13, 2009 3:20 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions 0 recs
Three receiver set...
Knox, Hester, and T.O. Plus the TEs. Tell me that don’t sound like a winner with Cut Dawg behind center.
by Big Ike on Oct 13, 2009 4:19 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Where we really need help is the
O-Line make a trade for a Guard. WR is not the Bears weakness right now O-line is.
by Dozjah on Oct 13, 2009 1:45 PM CDT via mobile reply actions 0 recs
TO
Is probably the best physical WR to ever play the game. His combination of size, power and speed are unmatched. He’s not the same player he once was. I don’t know how much of an upgrade he is at this point in his career, he’s what, 35?
I don’t understand this. The Bears say they are completely satisfied with their WRs. If that’s true, why get TO? Unless he’s basically free, I don’t understand this move. Especially, when they could have made an offer to him when he was a FA this summer. Why now? What has changed from when he got released from the Cowboys to now that has the Bears interested? Is Hester’s injury more serious than they are letting on? Of course, this rumour would have to be true to answer these questions, but still, where there’s smoke, there’s fire.
by McRipper on Oct 13, 2009 1:48 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I Agree at one time
In his career this guy was a Beast a Freak of nature.Now I wonder if he is worth a franchise setting back the development of their WR corps longterm.
by Dozjah on Oct 13, 2009 1:54 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions 0 recs
Jay Cutler is what changed
He don’t have to take that much time away. Run 3-4 wr sets. Boom! Superbowl.
by Ryan21 on Oct 13, 2009 2:06 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions 0 recs
Naw you
Still have to have a running game to win the big game.
by Dozjah on Oct 13, 2009 2:09 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions 0 recs
No you definitely do not
Steelers last year? Giants the year before? A running game is not needed to win the big game. You need deadly passing and solid D/ST. Both had decent at best running games.
by careyrd on Oct 13, 2009 3:02 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
You said decent not
No running game at all.
by Dozjah on Oct 13, 2009 3:21 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions 0 recs
Pit. or Ari. did not have good running games last year
And I agree 100% that we need help on the O line and on D. But that help is not avaliable right now and WR might be. I wouldn’t give up anything higher than a 4th round pick but I would be excited to see him here. You can run from a 3 reciever set to, I’m not saying to give up on the run. Or maybe we can trade for Benson and Ortman!j/j lol.
by Ryan21 on Oct 13, 2009 3:05 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions 0 recs
They run 3-4 WR sets a lot...
So its not like you couldn’t run TO at #1 and mix knox iglesias and bennett at 2 and 3…put hester back on return duties!!!(as noted above)
by Pretender85 on Oct 13, 2009 4:20 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Umm...
there’s no proof anywhere that the Bears are interested in him. I guess you never know though!
"Repetition is only good when you've been winning." - Valet
by propheteer on Oct 13, 2009 4:46 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Nuts.
No way this happens. No way it should. We’re fine at receiver. Why take playing time away from three young, hungry guys who have done everything right and are likely to be the future of the franchise at the position to take on a 35 year old? If he were five years younger, sure. I wouldn’t make the trade even if they offered to do it for Nate Vasher or Rashied Davis.
—d
by itsugly on Oct 13, 2009 1:56 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Well
let’s not get carried away now. I’d trade Vasher for TO’s jock strap.
by McRipper on Oct 13, 2009 2:01 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I arrived in America’s airport with clothings, US dollars, and a jar of Terrel Owens’ tears to protect me from AIDS.
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by smudgers on Oct 15, 2009 3:00 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Sadly... we actually need Vasher.
That’s how bad our secondary is.
"You win because of the quarterback. We have to get that position stabilized. We're fixated on that." -- Jerry Angelo (12.30.2008)
Jerry Angelo trades for Jay Cutler! (4.2.2009)
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by SackMan on Oct 13, 2009 2:43 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
what no Matt Jones talk?
and couldn’t you find a better pic?
I’m not a T.O. fan, actually I’m with Coach Ditka when he said “he’s a cancer”
by Lester A. Wiltfong Jr. on Oct 13, 2009 1:56 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Yeah
That’s not the picture I would pick to appeal to this audience.
We are the angry mob. We read the papers everyday day.
We like who we like. We hate who we hate.
But we're also easily swayed
by pocketwatch on Oct 13, 2009 2:15 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
This picture makes me question things about myself.
WAIT, errr… I mean…. Dammit!
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by smudgers on Oct 15, 2009 3:02 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Agreed.
No thanks. I like the kids we’ve got now, don’t need to risk a diva.
by Virto on Oct 13, 2009 1:58 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
What do we have?
Marshall is still tearin it up in Denver. We do not have a wr on the roster who can dominate, now or in the future.
by Ryan21 on Oct 13, 2009 2:09 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions 0 recs
Same goes for this team
even with TO. He can’t dominate anymore, and definitely won’t be dominating anywhere in the future.
Metal sharpens metal.
And this guy right here understands and knows what leadership is all about: The coach, the hall of famer......... Dick Butka! George Ryan
by dakoose on Oct 13, 2009 2:49 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I just got an image of TO screaming at Cutler on the sidelines
No thanks
We are the angry mob. We read the papers everyday day.
We like who we like. We hate who we hate.
But we're also easily swayed
by pocketwatch on Oct 13, 2009 2:02 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Yeah and I could see him
Affecting the team chemistry.
by Dozjah on Oct 13, 2009 2:04 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions 0 recs
If our QB was Orton
point taken. But Cutler would yell right back. He wouldn’t care.
I'M A MAN! I'M 23!
by ChiFan13 on Oct 13, 2009 2:07 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I agree
Cutler is, in all aspects, the leader of the offense.
I don’t want TO on the Bears. I’m pleased with the progress our WR’s have made, coupling that with TO’s locker room track record, is my reasoning… TO could come in right now and make this team better (absolutley)…
But as far as long term success (which is what I’d like to see), I don’t think it’s the right move.
The growth of our young receivers would likely slow. That would be unfortunate, considering how far they’ve come from week one.
And for what? a guy that is waayyy past his prime and would likely be here for a season and a half… and probably be dinged up for half of that time…
I’ve seen enough plays from our (only getting better) WR’s to say NO to TO!
by rdent4hof on Oct 13, 2009 2:32 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Exactly...
Cutler called out B.Marshall last year. And contrary to popular belief, BM is a worse guy to me than TO. The guy has been accused of putting hands on more than one woman and acted like a idiot in practice. 2 things TO hasn’t done. This guy gives his all on the field. Go ask Romo if he misses TO. Nice have a good locker room but if your team sucks…
I say make the move. It would probably cost the Bears a 5th or 4th round pick tops. He’s on a one year deal and is on his best behavior. I think it’s a no brainer
by Dils on Oct 13, 2009 2:34 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah well put
But to say the Bears team sucks is a stretch don’t you think? And if the team sucks why bring an old player to take away time from the young guys you need to develop to make your team good for the long haul? T.O is a quick fix that the Bears don’t need. The Bears need to develop some young talent. That is how you win long term in the NFL.
by Dozjah on Oct 13, 2009 2:46 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions 0 recs
Im not saying the Bears sucked
I meant Dallas who obviously misses T.O. As far as the Bears are concerned… This isn’t a rebuilding year, we’re trying to win a title. The fact that he’s on a 1 year deal is the very reason you make the deal. It’s a low risk move. I think Earl Bennet can live if his touches are dropped a little bit this season. Hell he wasn’t even on the 53 man roster last year. You make this move because you’re 3-1 in a tight division and he could make the difference.
by Dils on Oct 13, 2009 2:57 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
It doesnt have to be a rebuilding
Year too develop your young talent. I never said this was a rebuilding year. But this is a development year these young recievers are going to be here with Cutler for years too come. They need to develop an on field chemistry. You do that by playing them with Cutler from start to finish.
by Dozjah on Oct 13, 2009 5:12 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions 0 recs
i see an image
of a fist fight between the two…
by Da Sassage on Oct 13, 2009 3:56 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Ironically..
I could see Cutler screaming back at him too.. :x
by Pretender85 on Oct 13, 2009 4:21 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
WHo knows? They might understand each other well.
Both were gushed over (to an extreme extent) by the press and then became ridiculed (to an extreme extent) by the press.
TO hasn’t had a public crackup lately, has he?
May the wind be always at your back, and may your placekicker have icewater in his veins.
by juperee on Oct 13, 2009 8:01 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I feel like I've seen this somewhere before....
But that picture has got to go…
You can't believe everything you read on the internet, that's how World War One got started.
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by Ditkavsworld on Oct 13, 2009 2:20 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Oy vay. No thank you.
If you’re gonna make a huge trade… get some defense.
"You win because of the quarterback. We have to get that position stabilized. We're fixated on that." -- Jerry Angelo (12.30.2008)
Jerry Angelo trades for Jay Cutler! (4.2.2009)
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by SackMan on Oct 13, 2009 2:42 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
This wouldn't be a huge trade.
Some of the speculation out there is that a sixth rounder could get it done. I’m not especially fond of this trade idea, but TO won’t cost all that much.
Metal sharpens metal.
And this guy right here understands and knows what leadership is all about: The coach, the hall of famer......... Dick Butka! George Ryan
by dakoose on Oct 13, 2009 2:51 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Any trade this week is a "HUGE" trade.
The deadline is inching close, and historically… not many trades happen.
"You win because of the quarterback. We have to get that position stabilized. We're fixated on that." -- Jerry Angelo (12.30.2008)
Jerry Angelo trades for Jay Cutler! (4.2.2009)
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by SackMan on Oct 13, 2009 2:56 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Damage
The only damage that TO and Jay Cutler would do together would be to the franchise as a whole. Having just moved from Dallas after being there 7 years, I can tell you that his destruction is slow, methodical, and inevitable. Jay Cutler is still a young and impressionable QB…to put him with TO has the potential of ruining Jay’s season not to mention the development of wide receivers which Jay will be with for (hopefully) years to come.
TO doesn’t bring anything to the table anymore except deceit. It is not worth the gamble.
by ClawsClawsClaws on Oct 13, 2009 2:53 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Look
Brandon Marshall was and is a WORSE person than TO. and Cutler dealt with it. He’s a big boy I think Cutler will be just fine.
by Dils on Oct 13, 2009 2:58 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
1-2 years tops.
I don’t agree at all he slows our wr’s development. You can roatate wr’s. I don’t think I’ve seen a 4 wide out set yet and when we have 3, one is usually a te. He might have a lot of drops but so does Olsen and Rashied Davis.
by Ryan21 on Oct 13, 2009 3:11 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions 0 recs
I agree
Trust me, the second Knox or Hester goes down again, you’ll be hearing from everyone about why we didnt go get TO for nothing. I get not going after Edwards but this really isn’t a risk for the Bears. You got the franchise QB, now go get him a new toy and see how far he can push this baby.
by Dils on Oct 13, 2009 3:15 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
People need to really think outside the box sometimes.
I agree Trust me, the second Knox or Hester goes down again, you’ll be hearing from everyone about why we didnt go get TO for nothing. I get not going after Edwards but this really isn’t a risk for the Bears. You got the franchise QB, now go get him a new toy and see how far he can push this baby.
Am i saying to pick up T.O.? No, but look at what Dils is saying. I love Devin hester and Johnny Knox but let’s be serious..they both weigh 180 pounds give or take soaking wet and cannot take a hit. What do you think would happen if Hester or Knox took a hit like Chad Ochocinco took from Ray Lewis in the 4th quarter in Sundays Bal / Cincy game.
I love my receivers but the fact is Hester has not shown us he can complete entire games after taking one or two big hits. he sat out a couple last year after taking a big hit, and look what’s happened this year so far.
People talk all the time that they don’t want a Free Agent coming in and taking time away from developing our receivers. If more people would think outside the box like Dils and think hmm “Maybe a vet receiver( not neccesarily T.O. but someone) could actually help us”, Last time i checked, receivers don’t develop too much when they’re in street clothes on the sidelines nursing an injury.
by Chitownproduct on Oct 14, 2009 2:59 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
How can you say something like that?
How?
Metal sharpens metal.
And this guy right here understands and knows what leadership is all about: The coach, the hall of famer......... Dick Butka! George Ryan
by dakoose on Oct 13, 2009 3:17 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
That Marshall is a worse person?
There is a reason I usually don’t speculate or include personalities when evaluating a player, we just don’t knw a damn thing. We know what we’re told, that’s it. Marshall acted like a kid for a while, so what? Everyone does dumb things, that doesn’t make us all dumb people.
Metal sharpens metal.
And this guy right here understands and knows what leadership is all about: The coach, the hall of famer......... Dick Butka! George Ryan
by dakoose on Oct 13, 2009 3:38 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah but Marshall
Had off of the field issues. He never jumped in Cutlers face on the sideline like TO did Mc Nabb. Marshall never threw his QB under the bus like TO did with Romo,Garcia Mc Nabb . TO has had a problem with his last 3 QB’s Garcia,Mc Nabb,Romo. We don’t need him here he is past his prime.
by Dozjah on Oct 13, 2009 3:33 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions 0 recs
wow.
they debated this story on ESPN’s first take (even more surprising, Skip Bayless defending Cutler, the current Bears receivers and the Bears)
I’m all for it. if there’s one thing i’ve always said, TO has never had a QB that would get in his face, and put him in his place. Cutler would undoubtedly be that guy.
Camp ifuwanna, we hold you in our heart...
by ifuwannacrownem on Oct 13, 2009 3:12 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
It's like the national media is pushing this all day
So maybe where there is smoke there is fire?
by Dils on Oct 13, 2009 3:13 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Noooooooooooo...
…it’s not worth it., Jerry. It’s not worth benching one of the Bennett/Hester/Knox trio when those guys are playing so well. It’s not worth the inevitable meltdown if the Bears lose and T.O. doesn’t get the ball. It’s not worth drops so utterly that T.O. would make Rashied Davis look like Steve Smith. It’s not worth the possibility that Owens and Cutler could snipe at each other.
It’s not even worth the cold hard fact that Buffalo was T.O.’s last real chance to make an impression. Act like your usual, conservative self here, Mr. Angelo.
by V. Money on Oct 13, 2009 3:16 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
never again say Rashied Davis' name in the same sentence as Steve Smith
And you call yourself a bears fan! Come on. Lmfao.
by Ryan21 on Oct 13, 2009 4:40 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions 0 recs
Man the Bears and Vikings would have one interesting story line.
I mean I thought he’s handled the media well in Buffalo and he hasn’t acted up really. I say go for it.
I've got this thing and it's fucking golden!
by SoulEater7 on Oct 13, 2009 3:22 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
No thank you
I don’t think our receivers are playing poorly enough to justify trading for T.O. Yes there are many possible benefits, yes I like the idea of only having to put up with him for 3 months before he’s gone for good, but is it worth it all? No I don’t think so.
by GallopingGhost on Oct 13, 2009 3:23 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
The recievers the Bears have now seem fine to me.
And does anyone else think someone photoshopped the hell out of that picture of T.O.?
Lifelong Arizona Cardinals/Chicago Bears fan.
No band-wagoner fans allowed, pick a team and stick with em, throughout the good and the bad.
by JoeCB1991 on Oct 13, 2009 3:24 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
if this happens i will puke
not that i don’t want him, it’s that it means we should have gone after edwards.
that said, i’ll take it. a real #1 wide receiver.
I was told that I ruined this house with my anger
by tempchad on Oct 13, 2009 3:27 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
If we're gonna bring T.O. in...
We’d better bring in a full-time (adult) baby-sitter, as well. 3-5 years ago when he was still in his prime, yes that might have been something to consider. But now, this guy’s just got too many issues to be worth the trouble.
by JimmyMack on Oct 13, 2009 3:30 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Well
We’d better bring in a full-time (adult) baby-sitter
Tony Dungy’s free.
I'M A MAN! I'M 23!
by ChiFan13 on Oct 13, 2009 3:47 PM CDT up reply actions 2 recs
I'd go and be a Pack fan
if they brought Dungy in. I can’t stand him, and I hope his stint with NFC is a short one. He’s awful.
Metal sharpens metal.
And this guy right here understands and knows what leadership is all about: The coach, the hall of famer......... Dick Butka! George Ryan
by dakoose on Oct 13, 2009 3:56 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
No Thanks
It would depend on what we would have to give up, but I think we have larger needs than WR. Besides, Turner wouldn’t know how to use him anyway…
by Fire Ron Turner on Oct 13, 2009 3:31 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Trade for Mark Bradley!
not joking. Dead serious.
1. familiarity with the system
2. he’s been healthy so far
3. what’s the worst you give up? a 7th rounder? Practice squad fodder?
Bradley and Cutler! damn, now I gotta wash my pants.
Camp ifuwanna, we hold you in our heart...
by ifuwannacrownem on Oct 13, 2009 3:38 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Mark Bradley?
He’s crap.
Insane rant in 3…2…1…
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by Ditkavsworld on Oct 13, 2009 3:41 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Crap?
HE’S BLACK JESUS BITCH!
Camp ifuwanna, we hold you in our heart...
by ifuwannacrownem on Oct 13, 2009 3:43 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
LOL. Totally worth it.
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by Ditkavsworld on Oct 13, 2009 3:43 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Black Jeebus, huh?
I thought Jesus healed people….why couldn’t he heal himself?
I'M A MAN! I'M 23!
by ChiFan13 on Oct 13, 2009 3:43 PM CDT up reply actions 2 recs
I thought Tupac was Black Jesus.
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by Ditkavsworld on Oct 13, 2009 3:44 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Who do you think Tupac reincarnated into?
Camp ifuwanna, we hold you in our heart...
by ifuwannacrownem on Oct 13, 2009 3:45 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Anyone but Mark Bradley
My guess? Henry Burris.
I'M A MAN! I'M 23!
by ChiFan13 on Oct 13, 2009 3:46 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Raymont Harris
Camp ifuwanna, we hold you in our heart...
by ifuwannacrownem on Oct 13, 2009 3:48 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Marty carter
Camp ifuwanna, we hold you in our heart...
by ifuwannacrownem on Oct 13, 2009 3:53 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
this is fun
Anthony Marshall
Camp ifuwanna, we hold you in our heart...
by ifuwannacrownem on Oct 13, 2009 3:55 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Curtis Conway
You can't believe everything you read on the internet, that's how World War One got started.
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by Ditkavsworld on Oct 13, 2009 3:56 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Mike Timpson
Camp ifuwanna, we hold you in our heart...
by ifuwannacrownem on Oct 13, 2009 3:58 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Ahmad Merritt
Camp ifuwanna, we hold you in our heart...
by ifuwannacrownem on Oct 13, 2009 4:02 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
James "Big Cat" Williams
I'M A MAN! I'M 23!
by ChiFan13 on Oct 13, 2009 4:03 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Bob Sapp
Camp ifuwanna, we hold you in our heart...
by ifuwannacrownem on Oct 13, 2009 4:06 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Raashaaam Saalaaaam
Extra A’s so I don’t miss any
by ddub101 on Oct 13, 2009 4:11 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Tim Worley
I've got this thing and it's fucking golden!
by SoulEater7 on Oct 13, 2009 4:20 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Well now you just ruined it.
Chris Zorich
You can't believe everything you read on the internet, that's how World War One got started.
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by Ditkavsworld on Oct 13, 2009 5:09 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Brad Muster
I've got this thing and it's fucking golden!
by SoulEater7 on Oct 13, 2009 6:04 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
tom waddle
hes a brother at heart
by wennington4 on Oct 13, 2009 10:13 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Curtis Enis
"It's hard to win 97 games, it's hard to win the division. Our attitude is if you get in every year, you get in most of the time, sooner or later you are going to knock that door down." -- Jim Hendry
by EJThunder on Oct 14, 2009 5:16 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Brandon Rideau
"It's hard to win 97 games, it's hard to win the division. Our attitude is if you get in every year, you get in most of the time, sooner or later you are going to knock that door down." -- Jim Hendry
by EJThunder on Oct 14, 2009 5:16 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Lovie Smith.
You can't believe everything you read on the internet, that's how World War One got started.
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by Ditkavsworld on Oct 13, 2009 3:47 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Gary Fencik
because Fence is the only other human being in the history of the world who is as gangster as Pac was…
by Cosmis on Oct 13, 2009 9:05 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Say NO to TO
We do not need that overrated piece of shit. He is not as good as he once was and not worth giving up any of our young WR’s .None of them..
by Az Bear Fan on Oct 13, 2009 3:41 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
It won't cost any of our wide receivers.
Rather, a late day 2 draft pick should do it.
Metal sharpens metal.
And this guy right here understands and knows what leadership is all about: The coach, the hall of famer......... Dick Butka! George Ryan
by dakoose on Oct 13, 2009 3:57 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
How about Jeff Samardzija?
He hasn’t been pitching real well….
by Fire Ron Turner on Oct 13, 2009 3:47 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Or maybe if we lured Willie Gault out of retirement...
Last time I saw him, he was doing Ned’s Declassified School Survival Guide.
by V. Money on Oct 13, 2009 4:32 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
It's funny you should mention Willie...
Recently read an article about him, he is still competing in track and field events, running the 100 yard dash and holding his own quite well against competition half his age, I thought that was pretty amazing. Wish I could remember where I read it or had the link for it, it was a really good article.
"They better get another quarterback cuz we're comin"-#58 Wilber Marshall LB Chicago Bears
by BearDown34 on Oct 13, 2009 6:18 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
i think it was yahoo
I may be wrong though…
by Cosmis on Oct 13, 2009 9:05 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
No more problem children, please
TO has never acted like an adult, and since he’s already long in the tooth and his act has grown tired in the extreme, why would his behavior change suddenly? Because he’s got Cutler now? What, was McNabb a piece of sh-t, or something? Please, no.
by Waylon on Oct 13, 2009 3:53 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Are we serious that this move
would hold back the development of the current Bears wide receivers? Have you seen the Bears wide receivers? Their is no elite talent here. What the Bears do have is at best a bunch of #3 receivers. Bennett has good hands, but lacks speed. Hester has speed, but lacks receiver instincts and Knox has speed and desire, but lacks size. No, Owens isn’t elite any longer, but he is better than anything the Bears have right now. The goal of every NFL season is to win the Super Bowl. Developing talent is great, but winning is the goal. The era of the dynasty is over and winning now is all that matters. Owens may or may not put the Bears over the hump, but he would most likely make things a lot more interesting for the Bears this season. Trade a pick for him, you can’t lose as he is only on a one year deal and the young guys will get plenty of opportunities as the Bears go to more of a passing attack with each passing week.
by mcspazz on Oct 13, 2009 4:17 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Thats what they thought in
Philly,Dallas,Buffalo that’s enough said right? Experience is the best teacher. Not Terrell “Team Obliterater” Owens. He is not a better option than developing young talent.
by Dozjah on Oct 13, 2009 4:50 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions 0 recs
to went to the super bowl with the eagles
but nice revisionist history.
I was told that I ruined this house with my anger
by tempchad on Oct 13, 2009 5:02 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
to be honest
T.O. played his ass off in that superbowl. He was destroying the Pats. It’s not his fault Donovan couldn’t handle the stage.
by Cosmis on Oct 13, 2009 9:06 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
and was playing on one ankle
and was money for the entire season
I was told that I ruined this house with my anger
by tempchad on Oct 13, 2009 9:11 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
And to answer your question
Yes I have seen the Bears recievers. And so far I’m more impressed with them this season than I am with Owens this season.
by Dozjah on Oct 13, 2009 4:56 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions 0 recs
Usain Bolt would be a better choice.
Cutler’s rocket arm + Bolt’s lightning speed = epic debacle for opposing defenses.
by V. Money on Oct 13, 2009 4:18 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I say go for it.
My guess is TO behaves trying to get that next contract.
This is all assuming the price is a low second day pick.
by BNeL21 on Oct 13, 2009 4:31 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Once again
History has shown that this guy is a problem more than not.
by Dozjah on Oct 13, 2009 4:52 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions 0 recs
Wondering...
Some are saying this acquisition would make us immediately better,and perhaps thats true. However, how much immediately better did he make Buffalo? And if he has made them better, why is Buffalo shopping him 4 games into the season? Seems like something about this just doesnt line up right.
"They better get another quarterback cuz we're comin"-#58 Wilber Marshall LB Chicago Bears
by BearDown34 on Oct 13, 2009 4:55 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Beardown you
Took the words right out of my mouth.
by Dozjah on Oct 13, 2009 4:58 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions 0 recs
I just think...
This looks like a serious “buyer beware” type of deal and fortunately for us, with the way our current wide receivers are playing, and the fact that, as GeauxBears pointed out in another post, we have Jay Cutler, which should attract some serious interest from free agent WR’s next offseason, we have the luxury of playing this issue close to the vest, or conservatively, if you will. No need to rush into something that could potentially bite us in the ass down the road.
"They better get another quarterback cuz we're comin"-#58 Wilber Marshall LB Chicago Bears
by BearDown34 on Oct 13, 2009 5:06 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Beardown 34
I like your thinking you think rationally. That’s always a good thing.
by Dozjah on Oct 13, 2009 5:18 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions 0 recs
Thanks Dozjah
My thinking may be a bit too conservative for some, but hey thats why we have an excellent site like WCG to debate these issues,right
"They better get another quarterback cuz we're comin"-#58 Wilber Marshall LB Chicago Bears
by BearDown34 on Oct 13, 2009 5:23 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Sometimes when you err
On the side of caution you can’t go wrong. Even if TO comes and does an excellent job he will hurt the young recievers development in the long run.
by Dozjah on Oct 13, 2009 6:24 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions 0 recs
After reading some of your other comments
On this thread I think we are like minded in the fact that I am also a supporter of developing what we have. I truly believe that our core group of offensive players have limitless potential. They’re young, abundantly talented, maturing and improving at a rapid rate and to a man seem to all have their heads screwed on straight so to speak. With Cutler, Forte, Hester, Bennett, Knox, and Williams, we just don’t seem to be hearing any locker room “drama” coming from any of these guys(a good thing,IMO).If we can make a couple of solid moves to improve our offensive line positions, more because of age than quality of play,although i know they have struggled out of the gate so far, I think we have the potential to be an offensive powerhouse for quite a few years here. With continued proper development and coaching I believe the group I mentioned is going to contribute heavily in bringing championships to Chicago. It should be fun to watch and its definately a good time to be a Chicago Bears fan for sure! I’ve been one since the year Walter Payton was drafted, so I have witnessed both ends of the spectrum, so to speak.
"They better get another quarterback cuz we're comin"-#58 Wilber Marshall LB Chicago Bears
by BearDown34 on Oct 13, 2009 7:01 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
TO
reminds me a little of myself when I look in a mirror….in the right light of course.
"Repetition is only good when you've been winning." - Valet
by propheteer on Oct 13, 2009 5:35 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Would that be with the lights off?
:-)
"One time I went to a social gathering, I brought a bottle of Tanqueray and a shotgun and showed those motherf&#@ers the best time they ever had!"- Kenny Powers (Eastbound and Down)
"Why give 100% when 35 can still get you paid and laid."- Kenny Powers
by gridiron_assassin on Oct 13, 2009 5:53 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yes
that’s exactly the “right” light….none at all!
"Repetition is only good when you've been winning." - Valet
by propheteer on Oct 13, 2009 6:12 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
can you hit that nail on the head any harder
we get it.
I was told that I ruined this house with my anger
by tempchad on Oct 13, 2009 7:11 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Are you following me around WCG?
Please, go away.
"Repetition is only good when you've been winning." - Valet
by propheteer on Oct 14, 2009 10:20 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
actually no
just a mere coincidence
I was told that I ruined this house with my anger
by tempchad on Oct 14, 2009 1:06 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
did you email into waddle and silvy yesterday?
by mike b on Oct 13, 2009 7:20 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
No I'm not that gridiron assassin...
I’ve been using this name for a year or two now and it was pretty coincidental when I found out about the other assassin.
"One time I went to a social gathering, I brought a bottle of Tanqueray and a shotgun and showed those motherf&#@ers the best time they ever had!"- Kenny Powers (Eastbound and Down)
"Why give 100% when 35 can still get you paid and laid."- Kenny Powers
by gridiron_assassin on Oct 13, 2009 11:50 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Always two there are...
No more, no less…
by rdent4hof on Oct 14, 2009 8:21 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Eh
It could be good. I’m indifferent towards it, I still think any of our three wideouts have the potential to have a big breakout game, but the thought of defenses having to focus on guarding TO and leaving room for Hester/Knox makes me a little giddy.
He did sign a one year deal in Buffalo if I remember, so we’d only have to keep him this year.
by Scribbz on Oct 13, 2009 6:02 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
TO could be a good addition
IF AND ONLY IF lovie can coach him properly. I really think TO wouldnt be that much of a disruptive force just look at how Bill Parcell coached him? Can lovie keep up with that?
by Man G on Oct 13, 2009 7:06 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
"But imagine the damage Jay Cutler and Owens could do together..."
Imagine the damage T.O. and his “cancer” can do to the team!
by Nando21 on Oct 13, 2009 7:11 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I have no problem bringing in problem childs
But TO’s a different scenario. Every team he’s been on, he’s caused trouble. EVERY team. It’s only a matter of time before he goes off in Buffalo.
The Bears just don’t need that.
by jake1823 on Oct 13, 2009 7:29 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
not in the first year
and he’s on a one year deal
I was told that I ruined this house with my anger
by tempchad on Oct 13, 2009 9:11 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
The need is on defense...
The Bears are going to find out Sunday night against an explosive Atlanta offense how truly crappy the secondary really is. I worry about the Falcons blowing the
Bears out, Cutler or no Cutler.
Terrell Owens? Good God no. I don’t for a nanosecond buy into this rumor.
"Cubs will win 79 to 83 games." BLou (7/21/09)
by BLou on Oct 13, 2009 7:40 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Look at what TO did to Jason Witten
Witten was the best TE in all football with TO. Now imagine Olsen
by BEARSFAN19 on Oct 13, 2009 9:11 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
dude, don't you read these thread?
the only thing that matters is attitude. if you suck but you have good attitude you are welcome by this board. if you are great but have a poor attitude, you are not.
I was told that I ruined this house with my anger
by tempchad on Oct 13, 2009 9:13 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
well that's dumb thing to say tempchad.
Did you miss the part where people said that he is over the proverbial hill for a WR? Did you miss the part where they said it would delay the development of some good young receivers?
Or do you just have a man-crush on the guy who has empirically proven to be detrimental to every locker room he has ever been in? His attitude is undeniable. He used to be a good receiver when there was a play going on, but once the whistle blew he would turn into a baby, runny diaper and all.
BF19- Jason Witten was the best TE in football with TO, you’re absolutely correct there. However, he is also the best without him.
by wennington4 on Oct 13, 2009 10:21 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Im just saying
We have leaders on this team that would keep TO on check. If he turns out to be a cancer he is a free agent at the end of the season. T.O., Knox, Hester, Olsen, and Forte along with Cutler thats what I call fire power
by BEARSFAN19 on Oct 13, 2009 9:29 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
if TO got out of line
Olin Kreutz would break his jaw
If you want to crown em...
by JohnnyTruant on Oct 13, 2009 9:53 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
lol good one
honestly i dont think hed get out of line hes been quiet on buffalo which is one sorry team and a guy like kreutz or briggs would keep him in line having him on the field would make defenses respect him and allow more one on ones for olsen hester and knox
only way this trade is even a question if it starts with like a 4th round pick any thing higher? see ya laterr!
by Bear Lovin 21 on Oct 13, 2009 10:11 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
i'm hesitant to make this trade
our young receivers are good just need more seasoning they’ll get better. If TO comes in will he fall in line? or will he disrupt the chemistry that our young players are creating?
by chigrl on Oct 13, 2009 11:07 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I am not a big T.O. fan...
but I do think this is a case of low risk, high reward (assuming that we do not have to give up too much to get him). I don’t think it will impede the development of our WR’s and possibly could help them if they learned a thing or two from TO.
I do think we have the personnel in place to keep him in check, it is only a 1 yr deal, and he could be a huge factor in making our offense absolutely scary. Yes, there is some risk involved but if he was brought in and started to act up then he can be cut and I don’t believe the Bears are any worse off. I am not saying we bring him in and sign him to a long term-deal … you can bring him in and see if he helps take our offense to the next level.
He is a competitor & I don’t think anyone can argue with that. I think it is similar to the Dodgers taking a chance on Manny …. he was viewed as a possible clubhouse cancer & an older player but he has undoubtedly elevated that Dodger team. It may be a stretch but I think TO can have a similar effect & I don’t think the risk outweighs the reward
"I don’t believe that things go your way," said Lou Piniella, the Cubs manager.
"I believe you make things go your way."
by Basman on Oct 14, 2009 10:59 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Can't help but notice...
how similar the reputation is between TO and Milton Bradley. Reading these posts about TO sounds painfully familiar. After watching an entire season of that jagbag on the Cubs, I won’t invest that time in a Bear season if they trade for TO.
"They say that money doesn't buy happiness...but it DOES by Cub tickets. You ever see a sad person with Cub tickets?"
by redivycubs on Oct 15, 2009 8:49 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Sports Illustrated rekindles the TO talk
See SI article:
http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2009/writers/john_lopez/10/14/trades/index.html
I might be willing to try to get TO for a 3rd or 4th round pick. Since our draft success rate is marginal, why not?
If it doesn’t work out, FIRE RON TURNER!
by Fire Ron Turner on Oct 15, 2009 11:51 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
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