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What is with this sudden and overplayed outburst of the need for a WR?



Ive been seeing this weeks posts on the WCG about picking up a WR, from Braylon Edwards to Matt Jones (for the 193rd time), to Terrell Owens and Reggie Williams (you cant be serious), and it just makes me shake my head and laugh.  Come on guys give it up, let it go, move on, END CREDITS.

 

 

 

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Everytime I read one of these posts I wonder if any of them have actually been watching the Bears.  Yes this was a hot topic over the summer and even through training camp, but not anymore.  Guys are stepping up and making plays and all some of you want to do is knit pick and the problem is, youre knit picking the wrong unit.  Talk about the Secondary (who has as many interceptions as Tommie Harris), talk about our injury weakened running attack, but leave this "we need a #1 WR crap" at the door, because its wearing thin. Maybe a RB might be somewhere that we need to look at the FA pool for some help, but not at WR.

 

I mean did I seriously just see over 500 posts on another freaking WR topic, really, come on everyone lets just start ignoring the next moron that comes along with the we need a WR speech.  Guess what everyone, the season started, can we talk about the games now?  I dont know if anyone noticed but we do play the team that stuck an ice pick in our collective hearts last year.  This is likely a product of the long lasting bye week that we have to endure, which can drive a person crazy at times, but lets talk about something with some actual substance. Please I beg you.

Unless you havent seen, Cutler has already thrown 8 TD passes (On pace for 32) in only 4 games and the last three have been outstanding with QB ratings over 100 in each.  HE doesnt seem to have a problem distributing the ball, why should YOU have a problem with who he is distributing it to?  Bennett, Hester, and Knox have all been above expectations after all the grumblings we heard about this unit before the season started.  Im just fine with the numbers they have, each of them are averaging over 13 yards per catch and they all have about 15 receptions.  All 3 are on pace for over 60 catches this year  (note: we didnt have ONE WR catch over 60 passes last season). Not to mention the fact that as the year progresses, the chemistry between the WRs and the QB are inevitably going to get better, so it wouldnt be far fetched to think the numbers will get better as well.

And we havent even seen what Devin Aromashadu can do on the big stage yet, trust me its coming too.  Davis has not even been a blip on Cutlers radar and he also hasnt been too much of a difference maker on special teams either, which is why he got the roster spot over Rideau in the first place.  Cutler and Aromashadu had a nice thing going in Camp and in the preseason, his opportunity will eventually come, and when you have a QB capable of making plays your wide receivers can start blossoming into productive players.

Look at the Saints, have they gone out and brought in a #1 to save their Quarterback from the terrors of a nobody wide receiving core over the last few years, NO, they develop and work on timing, route running, and chemistry.  And all that got them has been one of the most prolific passing attacks in football.  Or even our counterparts this week, the Atlanta Falcons, did they just throw in the towel when Roddy White and Michael Jenkins werent at the level they wanted them to be, NO AGAIN, and look how their patience paid off. 

Some of you want instant gratification a little too much, you need to give these guys some time and let them prove themselves.  They havent even had a full season together to do that.  Why cant some of you just let our guys develop so we can have a cohesive unit when we make our push for the playoffs.  As Robert Downey says in Tropic Thunder, Pump Your Brakes Kids.  Wait for the offseason and if we arent talking about our Super Bowl Championship season we just had, maybe then and only then, should we open back up the discussion for free agent WRs.  When guys like Brandon Marshall and Anquan Boldin will be available to pick up with our large amount of cap space that we should have after the seasons up. Until then, screw the Dirty Bird, bring on the Falcons and most importantly..........................

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thank you
Some of you want instant gratification a little too much

this sums it up perfectly.
wasn’t Colston a 7th round pick? and now his QB made him into the receiver he is? let our receivers develop

come on everyone lets just start ignoring the next moron that comes along with the we need a WR speech

i second that

"I'm sorry Josh, I'm with Chicago now, you need to stop calling me" -JerBear50 as Jay Cutler

by BearNecessities on Oct 14, 2009 7:49 PM CDT reply actions  

absolutely right

You hafta develop your WR’s jus like we did with Bernard Berrian b4 he left for minnesota..Traitor! Our WR’s are coming along nicely and we dont need anything else..Cutler is what helped make brandon Marshall a superstar We have possession WR in Bennett and Olsen and game breakers in Hester and Knox there’s not to many teams that have that mix. What we need is corner help make a trade for a Corner or play tha rookie moore he cant do any worse

by EmmCeee on Oct 15, 2009 2:50 PM CDT up reply actions  

my thoughts are basically that we run a WR by comittee, since they are all just good, instead of a great #1, lets spread the ball out, as long as we score more than the opponent, who cares who has 1,000 yards

"I'm sorry Josh, I'm with Chicago now, you need to stop calling me" -JerBear50 as Jay Cutler

by BearNecessities on Oct 15, 2009 2:59 PM CDT up reply actions  

Hetser and Knox are not game breakers.

There big play threats, but they have not shown the ability to dominate games. The latter applies to Olsen and Bennet as well. We have a number of 2nd tier receiving options, which makes for good depth, but there is no top shelf talent, and I see nothing wrong with wanting to pursue some.

Metal sharpens metal.

And this guy right here understands and knows what leadership is all about: The coach, the hall of famer......... Dick Butka! George Ryan

by dakoose on Oct 15, 2009 3:29 PM CDT up reply actions  

Clearly we should then

trade away all our remaning draft picks over the next two years, for Jared Allen, because he improves our team, and our D-ends are not top shelf talent. off to make a fanpost about it

"I'm sorry Josh, I'm with Chicago now, you need to stop calling me" -JerBear50 as Jay Cutler

by BearNecessities on Oct 15, 2009 4:07 PM CDT up reply actions  

Don't be a tool.

You just make yourself look dumb with a response like that. I advocated trading a couple of late round picks and a fringe player or two for Edwards, not breaking the bank for Jared Allen.

Metal sharpens metal.

And this guy right here understands and knows what leadership is all about: The coach, the hall of famer......... Dick Butka! George Ryan

by dakoose on Oct 15, 2009 8:10 PM CDT up reply actions  

3rd, 5th, Stuckey, and a STS ace

can be considered breaking the bank. I know we disagree about this subject, but that would leave the Bears with a 2nd, 4th, 6th, and a 7th. Not enough to fill the holes when FAs possibly leave at the end of the year. Angelo needs to draft another tackle (right), CB, FS, and DE. Anderson and Wale are both unrestricted FAs. It’s a little risky of a trade. If they need to fill a hole because of injury there are plenty of WRs still without teams. As we all know Jones, Harrison, and Williams are the most popular ones.

"Repetition is only good when you've been winning." - Valet

by propheteer on Oct 15, 2009 11:08 PM CDT up reply actions  

I look at the possible impact of a 3rd and 5th.

(By the way, nowhere did I see anything about that guy being an ace. Just a decent special teamer.)
Look at our fifth round draft picks with Angelo. Not very good. Since 2000, all we’ve gotten is a bunch of part time players, with the best of them being Johnny Knox, who may evolve into a full time starter. SOme of the players have been useful, but not good enough to make me sweat giving up a fifth rounder, as the odds of striking big in the fifth are probably just as good as finding a solid sixth, seventh or undrafted free agent. The way I see it, the Bears will retain Anderson and let ’Wale leave. Hopefully with Marinelli here, Anderson will be good enough to start by 2010.

Metal sharpens metal.

And this guy right here understands and knows what leadership is all about: The coach, the hall of famer......... Dick Butka! George Ryan

by dakoose on Oct 16, 2009 10:23 AM CDT up reply actions  

Well...our starting CB Zack Bowman is a 5th rounder

and I believe Corey Graham was a 5th rounder as well, as were Mark Anderson, Kellen Davis, Kevin Payne, Justin Gage and Bobby Wade…

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by ThorCo on Oct 16, 2009 10:34 AM CDT up reply actions  

That's a pretty good list

They all had positive impacts one way or another, and four of them still contribute as we speak/write.

"Repetition is only good when you've been winning." - Valet

by propheteer on Oct 16, 2009 10:37 AM CDT up reply actions  

Zack Bowman has started a few games,

but I won’t count him as a real good pick until he strings together more than three or four games. Everyone else on that list have done a few nice things but not much more than you can expect from a sixth rounder, a seventh rounder or an undrafted free agent. All I’m saying is that the guys drafted in the fifth round are guys I can live without if I can get a guy like Edwards.

Metal sharpens metal.

And this guy right here understands and knows what leadership is all about: The coach, the hall of famer......... Dick Butka! George Ryan

by dakoose on Oct 16, 2009 1:45 PM CDT up reply actions  

Edwards has strung together 16 games once, and then strung together a year and then 2 more of nothingness. I want the draft picks. You can discount our draft history, but in reality, New England never drafted a sixth rounder like Brady before him. You can’t say we never drafted a good 5th rounder so we never will.

by brands735 on Oct 16, 2009 2:29 PM CDT up reply actions  

I'm not

the point is, Bears can’t afford to lose anymore draft picks, let alone on potential talent, when we could have had Owens as a FA, why trade now?
Edwards would cost too much considering what we have to offer currently, versus the holes we have all over… when in fact, we have, at the very least, decent fillers at WR for the time being.

what we dont have, is an answer at secondary, as Bowman is injury prone, Tillman is on the decline, and our safeties have 0 experience, our MLB is injured and on the decline, our DLine, while playing well now, has no real answer at the 3 spot, and will be broken up after this year… so there is a good chance we are going to lose most of our defense this year… and some of you would like us to trade draft picks for 1 receiver.

great he gets us one extra touchdown a game, but when their offense scores 50+ points a game, it isn’t worth it. it makes as much sense as, oh say, trading all our draft picks away for Jared Allen.

"I'm sorry Josh, I'm with Chicago now, you need to stop calling me" -JerBear50 as Jay Cutler

by BearNecessities on Oct 16, 2009 12:24 PM CDT up reply actions  

Well said my friend. And a wreck for your post.

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by Ditkavsworld on Oct 14, 2009 8:28 PM CDT reply actions  

Before this season I would say that they needed some new Recievers.

Now I would say that Hester and Knox have been good, and Cutler is good enough to make the Receivers better. What the Bears have now seems fine to me.

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by JoeCB1991 on Oct 14, 2009 9:17 PM CDT reply actions  

bennent is under the radar

but hes been good as a safety valve and moving the chains while hester and knox are the vertical threats

by Bear Lovin 21 on Oct 14, 2009 9:23 PM CDT reply actions  

Im excited to see if they actually do go a little more vertical this week coming out of the bye.

They really havent done too many downfield throws since the GB game, 68 yarder to Knox and the Hester TD. I think they kind of pulled in the reigns after that game, but after an extra week of preparation, I could see them taking some more chances.

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Alan: "Check his collar or something." - The Hangover

by ANYTIME09 on Oct 14, 2009 9:39 PM CDT up reply actions  

I've been in favor of the Owens signing....

but you’ve definitely made some excellent points.

I’ve swayed more towards feeling the Bears should stand pat with what they’ve got. Our WRs have done a very respectable job and a lot better than many could have imagined.

Let’s keep feeding Johnny and Earl the ball… if (and only if) they falter should we consider looking for upgrades.

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by EJThunder on Oct 15, 2009 12:12 AM CDT reply actions  

Nice post. rec'd

"You win because of the quarterback. We have to get that position stabilized. We're fixated on that." -- Jerry Angelo (12.30.2008)

Jerry Angelo trades for Jay Cutler! (4.2.2009)
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by SackMan on Oct 15, 2009 1:29 AM CDT reply actions  

Thanks for the Post

For showing the points that we DONT need a wide reciever. Now people will stop with WR topics.

by Bearsfan23 on Oct 15, 2009 7:03 AM CDT reply actions  

Here's the thing...

We’re 3-1 ( and I honestly feel that if the Pack had one less posession we’d be 4-0) and our offensive unit is really starting to click. Why must we have to continue hearing about the “apparent need” for a so-called #1 receiver? You bring up some great points Anytime and I agree. If it ain’t broken, don’t fix it (to paraphrase).

by BearsBullsCubs10 on Oct 15, 2009 8:44 AM CDT reply actions  

Paranoia

The reason this topic has come up is that the trade deadline is Tuesday. Injuries can happen at any time and then you have to deal with what you have. We have all been impressed with Knox and Earl and Devin but what happens if they come down from their high? Fans are looking for a back up plan. Everyone likes to play GM and thats part of the purpose of these boards. Some theories and suggestions are “out there” but can be interesting to read if the facts are straight.

by brands735 on Oct 15, 2009 9:01 AM CDT reply actions  

I would have to agree with you on this one

People need to understand as long as there is a WCG blog then it will be people posting on it, whatever they feel is important to them. I really don’t see a problem with any of these Bears need a WR post (for example) because i have seen at least a couple good replies on just about every thread i read that has me thinking hmm..what if? If you look at the title of a post you pretty much know if you are going to read it or not so either do or don’t. I always do because i usually find something very amusing i can laugh at while at work or at the house chilling.

by Chitownproduct on Oct 15, 2009 10:18 AM CDT up reply actions  

Outstanding post

I do have to disagree on one point though-Rashied Davis has been very good on special teams, making some outstanding open field tackles in coverage.

I think the problem with DA is that there isn’t room right now. We aren’t going to dress 5 WRs on Sunday since we are already dressing 3-4 TEs. Unless we start running a bunch of 5 WR sets, he won’t get a chance to prove himself.

by ddub101 on Oct 15, 2009 10:26 AM CDT reply actions  

AP

With AP injured and probably not suiting up, maybe we dress 5 WRs? Anyone? Anyone?

by brands735 on Oct 15, 2009 11:34 AM CDT up reply actions  

That was what I was thinking too.......

Since we made no move over the bye week to add depth to the RBs, maybe they do have some spread formation up their sleeve with Aromashadu in there. Not to mention he could really help in the red zone with his size.

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Alan: "Check his collar or something." - The Hangover

by ANYTIME09 on Oct 15, 2009 4:55 PM CDT up reply actions  

Thank you, my head is starting to feel better already.

I’m not sure which subject is more irritating to me, the WR acquisition or the Jay vs. Kyle argument (because there can’t be a universe where both of them could be successful and do a good job).

We should drop both subjects as if we were Rashied Davis with butter on his hands.

GREAT POST!!!

by BearFan611 on Oct 15, 2009 11:18 AM CDT reply actions  

There are those who believe that the Bears will not be successful until

hey have an all star at every position.

I always turn to the sports section first. The sports page records people's accomplishments; the front page has nothing but man's failures.
~Earl Warren

by lookingdeadred on Oct 15, 2009 11:54 AM CDT reply actions  

Oh, and another thing

you’re a homer.

I always turn to the sports section first. The sports page records people's accomplishments; the front page has nothing but man's failures.
~Earl Warren

by lookingdeadred on Oct 15, 2009 11:55 AM CDT reply actions  

No Im a Bears fan.

And when I see guys progressing I dont mind letting them finish what they have started. Trading for a WR is saying the guys we have arent producing and that is not the case.

Phil: " Whose baby is that?
Alan: "Check his collar or something." - The Hangover

by ANYTIME09 on Oct 15, 2009 5:02 PM CDT up reply actions  

Guess my little "homer" joke missed the mark

I always turn to the sports section first. The sports page records people's accomplishments; the front page has nothing but man's failures.
~Earl Warren

by lookingdeadred on Oct 16, 2009 8:35 AM CDT up reply actions  

While I agree

with most of your post, the fact is the Bears WR do need an upgrade. Yes, they are playing pretty well right now but they are still very inexperienced. I think the reason for all the negativity is because of who the rumoured target is. If this was a rumour about the Bears possibly trading for Boldin or Marshall, then most, if not all WCGers would be foaming at the mouth.

WR is not the most pressing need on this team by far, but to say it doesn’t need an upgrade is foolish. I think the Bears should be looking to upgrade at any position(minus QB and RB) if the situtation presents itself. That’s just good business.

I like what I’ve seen from Hester, Knox and Bennett so far this year, but if the Bears can upgrade the position, you do it.

by McRipper on Oct 15, 2009 12:03 PM CDT reply actions  

I'm sorry, but I disagree with you.

Whenever a team has an opportunity to better itself, it should do everything in it’s power to do so, whether it be upgrading at QB or DB or WR. I don’t believe our wide receivers are all that good. Has Cutler made them serviceable, or even a bit above adequate? Yes, but I want more, and to knock me for looking for upgrades is something I don’t understand. In this league, if you’re not moving forwards, you’re moving backwards, and I don’t want the Bears to become as complacent as some of the posters on this site are.

Metal sharpens metal.

And this guy right here understands and knows what leadership is all about: The coach, the hall of famer......... Dick Butka! George Ryan

by dakoose on Oct 15, 2009 12:18 PM CDT reply actions  

So the receivers we have arent moving forward?!?

I think they have all been improving, have they not? They certainly arent moving backwards.

Phil: " Whose baby is that?
Alan: "Check his collar or something." - The Hangover

by ANYTIME09 on Oct 15, 2009 5:04 PM CDT up reply actions  

since Earl

caught 0 passes last year and 15 this year…. thats 15 times more productive!

"I'm sorry Josh, I'm with Chicago now, you need to stop calling me" -JerBear50 as Jay Cutler

by BearNecessities on Oct 15, 2009 5:17 PM CDT up reply actions  

not to be a douche, but 15 x 0 = 0.

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by David Taylor on Oct 15, 2009 6:35 PM CDT up reply actions  

okay fine.

he is immeasurably better than last year…better?

how about using exponentially? or does that not work either?

"I'm sorry Josh, I'm with Chicago now, you need to stop calling me" -JerBear50 as Jay Cutler

by BearNecessities on Oct 15, 2009 6:39 PM CDT up reply actions  

I don't really care, I was just joshing ya!

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"Newbie, if the next two words out of your mouth aren't 'See ya' then the third word will be 'Oh my god. My crotch. You've punched me in my crotch." - Dr. Percival Ulysses Cox

by David Taylor on Oct 15, 2009 6:54 PM CDT up reply actions  

And why the haste?

Why is everyone on the edge here lately?

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"Newbie, if the next two words out of your mouth aren't 'See ya' then the third word will be 'Oh my god. My crotch. You've punched me in my crotch." - Dr. Percival Ulysses Cox

by David Taylor on Oct 15, 2009 6:57 PM CDT up reply actions  

I'm still

riled up from the Braylon Edwards debacle

"I'm sorry Josh, I'm with Chicago now, you need to stop calling me" -JerBear50 as Jay Cutler

by BearNecessities on Oct 15, 2009 7:35 PM CDT up reply actions  

Maybe I NEED to read the whole thread...

probably not though!

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"Newbie, if the next two words out of your mouth aren't 'See ya' then the third word will be 'Oh my god. My crotch. You've punched me in my crotch." - Dr. Percival Ulysses Cox

by David Taylor on Oct 15, 2009 7:52 PM CDT up reply actions  

don't

"I'm sorry Josh, I'm with Chicago now, you need to stop calling me" -JerBear50 as Jay Cutler

by BearNecessities on Oct 16, 2009 12:25 PM CDT up reply actions  

your math teachers are so disappointed in you

I always turn to the sports section first. The sports page records people's accomplishments; the front page has nothing but man's failures.
~Earl Warren

by lookingdeadred on Oct 16, 2009 8:36 AM CDT up reply actions  

Guys can't prove themselves

to be consistent and reliable if you don’t give them a chance to be consistent and reliable.

by brands735 on Oct 15, 2009 6:07 PM CDT up reply actions  

I never said to kick Bennett and Knox to the side.

I’d rather have them split snaps alongside Edwards than for both of them to be full time receivers.

Metal sharpens metal.

And this guy right here understands and knows what leadership is all about: The coach, the hall of famer......... Dick Butka! George Ryan

by dakoose on Oct 15, 2009 8:11 PM CDT up reply actions  

Braylon Edwards, honorable teammate and willing to split snaps. OK

by brands735 on Oct 15, 2009 9:41 PM CDT up reply actions  

No.

He would start and they would split snaps so each would play alongside him about half the time, or sepending on which one the situation calls for. Sorry for the wording.

Metal sharpens metal.

And this guy right here understands and knows what leadership is all about: The coach, the hall of famer......... Dick Butka! George Ryan

by dakoose on Oct 15, 2009 10:11 PM CDT up reply actions  

So if we throw the ball 30-40 downs a game, they get 15-20 chances to get thrown to and a reception. In reality, JC will throw to them less than half of those times giving them around 5-6 (max) chances a game to good pass-catch experience. AWESOME IDEA

Bravo dakoose.

by brands735 on Oct 16, 2009 8:07 AM CDT up reply actions  

Allright smartass.

Here’s the difference between you and myself(and it’s kind of said you haven’t grasped it yet): I don’t think all that much of Knox. Yeah, he’s fast, and he’s been solid, but it’s 4 games, and we’ll see how good he is when teams adjust to him and start jamming him at the line and take advantage of his lack of strength. Earl Bennett is also solid, but nothing special. I’d much rather see the Bears line up Edwards, Hester and a combo of Knox and Bennett than Hester, Knox and Bennett. If you disagree, fine, but don’t throw this shit my way.
By the way, look at how the Giants have brought along their receivers. They’ve done it slowly, and rightly so. How many receivers with no experience succeed off the bat? Most receivers take 2 or 3 years to really learn the game. You feel great with 2 rookies starting as your receivers? I don’t. And get this: Playing alongside Edwards would make them better!

Metal sharpens metal.

And this guy right here understands and knows what leadership is all about: The coach, the hall of famer......... Dick Butka! George Ryan

by dakoose on Oct 16, 2009 10:29 AM CDT up reply actions  

Honestly

I don’t think that much of Knox either. I think he is going to be a contributer on our team as a WR3 and return man but I am not Knox crazy about him being the next big thing. He is another weapon that we will use on our offense, but not the future #1. I do think Earl Bennett can turn into our #1, through pre-season and the first 5 games (@GB was a bad example) I have been impressed with his ability to get open. He needs on-the-field experience to do so though.

Talking about the Giants only proves my point, give the guys time on the field and they will learn the speed of the game and begin to produce. I disagree about Edwards making our WRs better. A) He made Stallworth worse!, B) You usually say that about veterans with great technique and expertise…Edwards doesn’t have great technique (catches a lot with his chest and thus drops with his hands) and is not a “veteran”.

by brands735 on Oct 16, 2009 10:39 AM CDT up reply actions  

not only that

but the Giants are doing the same thing we are, they had no “name” receivers really, and they have turned them into solid players… to hell with the #1 WR

"I'm sorry Josh, I'm with Chicago now, you need to stop calling me" -JerBear50 as Jay Cutler

by BearNecessities on Oct 16, 2009 12:27 PM CDT up reply actions  

You know what makes other players better/more productive?

Having someone draw tons of double teams, which is exactly what Edwards be doing on this team.

You really believe Bennett can be a number 1 receiver, whatever that even means? Bennett is a possesion receiver at this point. He’ll get better, but he’s not gonna be a first tier, or even a second tier, receiver.

The Giants receivers learned by having their playing time increase while playing alongside more talented veterans, i.e. Plaxico Burress and Amani Toomer. Now their younger guys will be learning from Steve Smith. They did not just throw a bunch of rookies into starting gigs and let em learn on the job.

Metal sharpens metal.

And this guy right here understands and knows what leadership is all about: The coach, the hall of famer......... Dick Butka! George Ryan

by dakoose on Oct 16, 2009 1:43 PM CDT up reply actions  

Mario Manningham

Is in his second year, therefore never played with Plaxico and played with (it’s not a) Toomer for one year.

In your opinion, Earl Bennett isn’t and will never be a #1. Luckily, I think our scouts and management don’t have the same opinion as you. Glad you have confidence in our guys to learn and progress. Earl played with Marty Booker for a year (related to Manningham playing with Toomer).

by brands735 on Oct 16, 2009 2:35 PM CDT up reply actions  

I agree here

how can you all of a sudden just “know” that earl isn’t a number one?

"I'm sorry Josh, I'm with Chicago now, you need to stop calling me" -JerBear50 as Jay Cutler

by BearNecessities on Oct 16, 2009 2:59 PM CDT up reply actions  

Thank you

National media is ranting and raving about Steve Smith (NYG). I think Earl will develop into a similar WR. Remember the #s he put up at Vandy are no joke, the SEC is no joke (although lots of guys go pro early). He has the tools, he has the QB, he just needs to keep working.

by brands735 on Oct 16, 2009 3:06 PM CDT up reply actions  

Hey don't forget

about Austin Collie and Miles Austin are now being touted legitimate threats now too, but no one knew who they were 2 weeks ago… oh yeah thats right, learning from Roy Williams and Patrick Crayton makes you great,

but having a good coach can under no circumstance, provide you with the tools to become a good receiver, and nevermind Jay Cutler either.

Isn’t Earl the all time leading receiver there or something close to that?

"I'm sorry Josh, I'm with Chicago now, you need to stop calling me" -JerBear50 as Jay Cutler

by BearNecessities on Oct 16, 2009 3:18 PM CDT up reply actions  

Are you kidding me?

Only idiots are touting Collie and Miles as anything but players who had great games in week 5. Earl Bennett may be a number 1, meaning the Bears’ best receiver, but that does not put him in the top tier of receivers. To me a number one is a guy that’s good for 70-100 yards/game and a threat to score a TD on any given play, ala Calvin Johnson, Randy Moss, Larry Fitz, TO in his prime. Other than that, I don’t know what a #1 is. I mean Bernard Berrian is Minn’s #1, but he is in no way a special receiver.
What I mean by learning is playing alongside a real threat, not having a youngster be mentored by the best player in his unit. Playing alongside a good player makes for a better opportunity to learn and produce, and I don’t see how that is debatable.

Metal sharpens metal.

And this guy right here understands and knows what leadership is all about: The coach, the hall of famer......... Dick Butka! George Ryan

by dakoose on Oct 16, 2009 5:19 PM CDT up reply actions  

Fine, playing along side a good player may help you…we already debated about whether Edwards is considered “good” or not so why continue arguing?

IMO, Bennett can do what Marshall is doing (minus the off field stuff). He may never be Calvin, Andre, Fitz … but few guys are. You gonna continue to argue opinions?

by brands735 on Oct 16, 2009 6:47 PM CDT up reply actions  

Lol.

I made the initial comment. All of you guys have posted replies.

Metal sharpens metal.

And this guy right here understands and knows what leadership is all about: The coach, the hall of famer......... Dick Butka! George Ryan

by dakoose on Oct 16, 2009 9:25 PM CDT up reply actions  

Hester, Bennett, and Knox have been impressive so far BUT.....

Braylon Edwards > Hester, Bennett, and Knox. A 3rd, 5th, and a couple of scrubs for a 6’3" freak is a steal that the Jets will be laughing about for years.

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by Acreman20 on Oct 15, 2009 12:22 PM CDT reply actions  

Not Chad

But agreed w/ him about the whole Edwards debate.

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by Acreman20 on Oct 15, 2009 12:56 PM CDT up reply actions  

Current WR's are fine.

I’d stay with what we got this year. Let everybody get time and develop with Cutler.
Then go after Vincent Jackson big time in the offseason.

by boondock_saint812 on Oct 15, 2009 1:09 PM CDT reply actions  

I WANT BOBBY SIPPIO!

Come on! Who’s up for luring him away from the UFL, who’s with me. Who’s coming with me? Get it done, JA!

Ooohhhh, ooohhhh… I think I may turn this into a fanpost!

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by David Taylor on Oct 15, 2009 1:46 PM CDT reply actions  

Lol

I see you are catching up.

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by Ditkavsworld on Oct 15, 2009 1:59 PM CDT up reply actions  

I'm trying, but the d*mn boss man keeps coming in...

asking for more work. He’ll be gone tomorrow, so alls good in the hood.

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by David Taylor on Oct 15, 2009 2:02 PM CDT up reply actions  

I know

the boss man did that to me a few minutes ago, threw out the “nobody goes home until this is done” garbage. I wanted to tell him um daycare closes at 545 so I’ll probably have to go get my kid, unless you want social services to get him for me.

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by Ditkavsworld on Oct 15, 2009 2:07 PM CDT up reply actions  

Yeah... about that.

My boss man is actually pretty cool – and only works in the office for about four days a month… so it’s usually smooth sailing. He’s never forced his hand like that, even when we have “tight” deadlines.

I have worked for some serious douche bags though… None that could have or would have kept me from getting my kid though. I aint fraid to hit me no boss!

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by David Taylor on Oct 15, 2009 2:24 PM CDT up reply actions  

Yeah my boss

is normally pretty cool, but every now and then that line gets dropped for some reason. I think it’s more of a motivator to get something done. I wish I only had to work in the office 4 days a month…

I have worked for some dbags myself but most of the people I work with now are tolerable. I ain’t afraid to hit me no boss either cept I don’t wanna get court marshalled.

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by Ditkavsworld on Oct 15, 2009 3:05 PM CDT up reply actions  

Your penalty is slightly larger than mine would be. :)

Having him away is really nice, for the most part. Except when I NEED to get up with him. He’s the VP of marketing, so he’s a big wig and has the leisure of living multiple states away and coming in every now and again. I’m not complaining though, like I said… Boss here only 4 days a month = NICE!

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by David Taylor on Oct 15, 2009 3:12 PM CDT up reply actions  

*Sigh*

Why must your life be better than mine….

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by Ditkavsworld on Oct 15, 2009 3:18 PM CDT up reply actions  

Ha!

You’re a Govie though… so if you’re anything like the ones that I know here in Charleston, you have a top notch gig.

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by David Taylor on Oct 15, 2009 6:52 PM CDT up reply actions  

I'm not sure if top notch is the word I'd use.

But I have a paycheck that’s going no where and I cant’ be fired. Now if I was a GS employee I’d have it made.

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by Ditkavsworld on Oct 15, 2009 8:59 PM CDT up reply actions  

Fantastic rant

I was all for bringing in a veteran WR in training camp, most notably one Matt Jones. I’ve cooled quite a bit after seeing the WRs make enough big plays to help win 3 out of 4 games. They do need to develop, and what better QB to do it than Cutler. I’m not sure if Aroma will see the field this season, barring an injury of course, cause stupid Davis plays well on STS (I haven’t really noticed much from him as of late).

When guys like Brandon Marshall and Anquan Boldin will be available to pick up with our large amount of cap space that we should have after the seasons up.

Most likely, Marshall will be re-signed at the end of the season, or at least tagged if a contract can’t be worked out. I would love the consolation prize though.

"Repetition is only good when you've been winning." - Valet

by propheteer on Oct 15, 2009 11:16 PM CDT reply actions  

Boldin

I don’t think he’s a FA….Vincent Jackson and Antonio Bryant are.

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by propheteer on Oct 15, 2009 11:19 PM CDT up reply actions  

Dont forget Vincent Jackson could become a FA too.

If Marshall does resign it will be on his terms though, Im not sure if they cant still tag him, but they better not let him go to the offseason w/o a contract, cause he will be getting top dollar.

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Alan: "Check his collar or something." - The Hangover

by ANYTIME09 on Oct 16, 2009 12:11 AM CDT up reply actions  

We need a list of all the players that are going to be FAs this upcoming offseason.

Anyone???

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Alan: "Check his collar or something." - The Hangover

by ANYTIME09 on Oct 16, 2009 12:11 AM CDT up reply actions  

Are you sure Boldin won't be a FA

I was almost positive that this was the last year of his contract, or was it after 2011 season?

by Chitownproduct on Oct 16, 2009 3:39 AM CDT up reply actions  

Here ya go.

Just be careful, the link pops.

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by Dane Noble on Oct 16, 2009 8:03 AM CDT up reply actions  

Thanks

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Alan: "Check his collar or something." - The Hangover

by ANYTIME09 on Oct 16, 2009 3:30 PM CDT up reply actions  

I'm offically starting the Bring Back Airese Currie fan club

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by ThorCo on Oct 16, 2009 10:38 AM CDT up reply actions  

I'm beginning

to think that Jackson will get tagged in the off season, since they probably won’t resign Merriman, now here’s an interesting, and relevant question,

what about, in the offseason, pursuing a LB like Merriman, or T like Dorsey, also going to be a FA in the offseason, with little chance of being signed or tagged?

only costs money, it’s not a receiver

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by BearNecessities on Oct 16, 2009 12:28 PM CDT up reply actions  

I Have No Idea........................

I find it complete lunacy. I think people are bored and need to play Fantasy Football to get them through the bye week.

by Gesiakob on Oct 17, 2009 2:12 AM CDT reply actions  

No new WRs coming in now..

Just 4th overall DEs who we hope Marinelli can turn into a machine of destruction.

by Pretender85 on Oct 17, 2009 4:11 PM CDT reply actions  

Check your meds ...

… if you don’t think we need help at WR. Hester is good, but small. Knox is inexperienced. Olsen is fucking useless at blocking and catching. Bennett also lacks size and toughness. Kellen Davis shows promise – but we cut a tough, tall target in Brandon Rideau. Why ? Because Juaquin Iglesias is apparently the future of the Chicago Bears ….

by Irish Bears Fan on Oct 20, 2009 4:01 AM CDT reply actions  

You're dead wrong

about Bennett. His size is fine and he’s made more tough catches this year than anyone on this team.

by rdent4hof on Oct 20, 2009 10:37 AM CDT up reply actions  

Well when Michael Floyd becomes available Ill take him, until then I like the guys we have.

And if all youre going to base it on is size check out the size of Aromashadu (who was active against Atl) or look at the size of Olsen who is a RECEIVING TE.

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Alan: "Check his collar or something." - The Hangover

by ANYTIME09 on Oct 20, 2009 3:22 PM CDT up reply actions  

Floyd will be in the 2011 draft most likely

The talent is undeniable, but I would be worried about his durability. Two years of college ball and he has missed big chunks of each. No doubt he will come back sometime this season despite the earlier prediction that the collarbone break was a season-ender, but I fear he will come back too soon and pull a Bradford.

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by lookingdeadred on Oct 20, 2009 5:22 PM CDT up reply actions  

I just hope that Clausen Stays next year, after sat. loss to Troy my bet is he will

And with him and Floyd we should be able to make a title push.

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Alan: "Check his collar or something." - The Hangover

by ANYTIME09 on Oct 20, 2009 6:08 PM CDT up reply actions  

I will be suprised if Clausen jumps

If he stays for his final year he is a leading Heisman candidate and a a likely top ten NFL pick. Niether is true currently.

Floyd pretty much has to stay as he has not done enough to warrant big money from the NFL … too much time off due to injury. Tate could jump, but I think Weis can convince him that he needs to stay and learn to be a better technical receiver. If he stays all three, Clausen, Floyd and Tate could be 1st round picks in 2011.

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by lookingdeadred on Oct 21, 2009 9:52 AM CDT up reply actions  

They better stay, I want to be able to look back and like these guys for trying to get us the Natl Championship.

Not guys that took the money and ran.

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Alan: "Check his collar or something." - The Hangover

by ANYTIME09 on Oct 21, 2009 11:24 AM CDT up reply actions  

Financially staying is the smart move

All three are more likely to be picked higher in 2011 than in 2010. While there is a risk of injury, coming out now would leave millions possibly on the table.

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by lookingdeadred on Oct 21, 2009 12:04 PM CDT up reply actions  

yea but what about all that uncapped salary stuff next year.

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Alan: "Check his collar or something." - The Hangover

by ANYTIME09 on Oct 21, 2009 3:35 PM CDT up reply actions  

Just more money

to give to Matt Jones ;)

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by BearNecessities on Oct 21, 2009 5:02 PM CDT up reply actions  

He just wants to be paid in 8 balls!

from Gasper Gomez

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by ANYTIME09 on Oct 22, 2009 11:45 AM CDT up reply actions  

He has dropped way too many passes

in both the preseason and regular season.

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by Dane Noble on Oct 20, 2009 10:43 AM CDT up reply actions  

I agree

plus his skill set matches, what we already have… just figured this was the right post to throw this link up…

by rdent4hof on Oct 20, 2009 11:03 AM CDT up reply actions  

here comes a fanpost

about why Galloway can be our savior

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by BearNecessities on Oct 20, 2009 12:51 PM CDT up reply actions  

Oh you know its coming.

Maybe another Matt Jones thread too!

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by ANYTIME09 on Oct 20, 2009 3:23 PM CDT up reply actions  

one can only hope

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by BearNecessities on Oct 20, 2009 7:29 PM CDT up reply actions  

Forget FA wr's and focus on FA Olineman

Anyone have a link to see what Olineman (guards specifically) are available next year??

Roachy love the run stuffin', but don't forget about the TE over the middle!!

by tfrabotta on Oct 21, 2009 10:33 AM CDT reply actions  

There's a couple that i use...

Link 1

Link 2 (Hasn’t been updated since September, but still a good resource)

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by Dane Noble on Oct 21, 2009 10:45 AM CDT up reply actions  

thanks GB

Roachy love the run stuffin', but don't forget about the TE over the middle!!

by tfrabotta on Oct 21, 2009 11:52 AM CDT up reply actions  

This is a great post.

Everything from the spelling to punctuation looks great. I am impressed with your usage of words that are more than 5 letters. Your page breaks are timed perfectly. I liked when you said Bear down. I’m going to have some apple juice now. WRECKED.

by PolishSausage.Ditka.Bears. on Oct 22, 2009 1:35 PM CDT reply actions  

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