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NightLink: Is Olsen Contributing Enough?

In the Chicago Bears team report on Sporting News for today, the topic of discussion is Greg Olsen.  I know I was one of those people that had Olsen pencilled in for the NFC Pro Bowl, which still could happen, but with only 10 catches for 94 yards and 2 TD's, he's not putting up the kind of numbers most of us expected.  After an off season in which he was named the starter at TE and was far and away Jay Cutler's favorite target in camp, I'm very surprised those numbers aren't better.

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He has been effective in the red zone with two TD catches, but part of the Bears' 3-for-14 effort on third-down situations between 6 and 9 yards can be traced partially to an inability to find Olsen.

The coaches say some of Olsen's lack of catches is because wide receivers stepped up unexpectedly to provide big plays, like Johnny Knox and Earl Bennett. Also, Olsen has drawn more double-teams.

I'll buy this rationale to a point.  But this week the Bears will face arguably the premier TE in the last decade in Tony Gonzalez, and you think he's seen his share of double teams in his day?  Especially on some of those receiver deficient Chief teams?

Olsen has been trying to focus on becoming a better blocker, which could take away some of his attention from the receiving game.

Sorry, but this is complete bull.  I know he's been working on his blocking, and I have noticed some improvement, but there is no way his receiving skills would falter due to his focus on blocking.

It could help to get Desmond Clark (rib) healthy to take some of the pressure off in the two-tight end formations on third-and-middle distances.

This I agree with, the Bears are a more dangerous offense in the double tightend set.  Add in a 3rd TE (Kellen Davis) on the goal line and the Bears are tough to defend when they get close.

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by Faizamaze on Oct 15, 2009 5:03 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Yes

I have the added benefit of having the NFL GamePass, so i’ve gone back and watched these games a bunch, and basically they’ll let a DB Cover Olsen most of the time, which works out great for the D, because the LineBackers arent suited to cover Olsen, since he’s basically an oversized wideout who can’t block, which is also the benefit of the DB, he can’t get off coverage as easily as he should be able to.

"I'm sorry Josh, I'm with Chicago now, you need to stop calling me" -JerBear50 as Jay Cutler

by BearNecessities on Oct 15, 2009 5:06 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

If they have to put an extra DB in there or commit a safety to covering Olsen

That’s still to our advantage if we run the ball or it’s giving Knox, Bennett or Hester a one-on-one match-up with a corner. I don’t care if people say he’s not a blocker or he’s not physical enough, he’s still 6’5’’, 250.

by JimmyMack on Oct 15, 2009 9:02 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I am a little concerned

with us bringing in Gaines, as a blocking tight end, and we havent used him yet, while our running game continues to suffer, what’s up with that?

"I'm sorry Josh, I'm with Chicago now, you need to stop calling me" -JerBear50 as Jay Cutler

by BearNecessities on Oct 15, 2009 5:09 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

I think you have to be concerned a little bit.

Unlike the WRs, that have been talked about at nauseum, Olsen has not progressed one bit from last year. He has exactly the same amount of catches and yards through the first 4 weeks of this compared to last years first 4 weeks.

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Alan: "Check his collar or something." - The Hangover

by ANYTIME09 on Oct 15, 2009 5:09 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Well..

If knox and others can take away some of the pressure I think he will get a lot more looks..plus he needs sticky gloves sometimes ive noticed.

by Pretender85 on Oct 15, 2009 5:36 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Stats shouldn't be a concern,

at least not in my opinion. Same sort of idea as a couple of weeks ago when Forte’s numbers weren’t all that great.

If we are winning football games, especially if we are doing it with a productive offense, it shouldn’t matter who is meeting fantasy numbers.

Since the offense has started clicking in the last 3 games, Cutler is completing 71% of his passes. We are playing good pitch and catch, and getting into the endzone. And winning games because of it.

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Just because it can be done on Madden NFL does not automatically make it a viable option in real life.

by Dane Noble on Oct 15, 2009 5:43 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Exactly

This team has a lot of other weapons on offense, this year. With Knox, Bennett and Hester all stepping up, Cutler has a lot of options besides Olsen. And if Greg is drawing a lot of double teams, someone else is going to get the ball.

by JimmyMack on Oct 15, 2009 8:52 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Agreed

There is no problem as long as the Bears keep winning.

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by Maelvampyre on Oct 15, 2009 9:05 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Taking what the defense is giving you

Defenses are obviously taking away Olsen in the passing game, cause they know Cutler will hit him over the middle for big gains. I agree, I’d rather see the WRs continue to get one-on-one matchups and take advantage of those situations. If the WRs continue to make plays, we’ll see Olsen “free-up” a bit after opponents make adjustments. Then it becomes a matter of “pick your poison.”

"Repetition is only good when you've been winning." - Valet

by propheteer on Oct 15, 2009 10:55 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Slow start???

2 TDs in 4 games should not be a concern. He might not be putting up Witten-like numbers, but he’s still doing a good job.

Camp ifuwanna, we hold you in our heart...

by ifuwannacrownem on Oct 15, 2009 5:44 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Meh,

I think people were expecting WR type numbers from him, because they weren’t expecting WR numbers from our WRs.

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Just because it can be done on Madden NFL does not automatically make it a viable option in real life.

by Dane Noble on Oct 15, 2009 5:50 PM CDT up reply actions   1 recs

and you also can't forget

about that oh so short debate about the notion of Braylon Edwards….

quite lofty expectations for our pass catchers, even though we’ve never had any, or never knew, because of the (lack of) QB

"I'm sorry Josh, I'm with Chicago now, you need to stop calling me" -JerBear50 as Jay Cutler

by BearNecessities on Oct 15, 2009 5:59 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I agree

with that completely.

by Virto on Oct 15, 2009 6:16 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I voted "NO" but not because his lack of production isn't a concern, rather I didn't expect that much out of him.

Someone else has already mentioned it, he drops a lot of passes. If you watch him closely, he usually bobbles the balls he does catch and I have to think that Cutler sees that as well. Olsen is one of those guys who has to be wide open to catch a ball. He’s not good in traffic and he doesn’t do a good job of RAC unless no one is near him. He goes down with the first hit, even against much smaller DB’s. I hope I’m wrong, but I really don’t ever see him being a Pro Bowl TE.

In my opinion, he is a “tweener” because he’s not physical enough for TE and not fast enough to be a true WR.

by BearFan611 on Oct 15, 2009 7:49 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

I also don't care about his stats/fantasy numbers...

but he has seriously underwhelmed me with his performance thus far. Be honest, a TE that can’t block and isn’t catching many passes isn’t very useful. Let’s all remember he was the premier TE in that year’s draft. What’s wrong with expecting better play from our high draft picks. He’s not a rookie any more and i am not impressed with his resume since then. BF611 hit the nail on the head, he’s a nice kid who just hasn’t done it in the NFL. I won’t say he’s a first round bust, but he’s not performing like a first rounder.

There are no stupid questions, but there are a LOT of inquisitive idiots.

by LostInSTL on Oct 15, 2009 8:02 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

His nack for dropping the ball concerns me

It’s also concerning that he can’t take advantage of defensive backs that are covering him. Defensive cordinators are going to gameplan from this point on to take him out the game. If Olsen wants to be a Elite Tight End he has to fight through it and make big plays.

by NiqueBears on Oct 15, 2009 8:27 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Most targeted

Olsen has been targeted 25 times, most on the team, Knox is second with 24…that’s a little concerning

by chacks on Oct 16, 2009 7:32 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I'm with you guys

BearFan611, LostInSTL, NiqueBears.

I think he’s been serviceable and that’s about it. Olsen has dropped to many easy ones and not caught enough of the tough ones… I personally believe Kellen Davis has played better as a receiving threat.

by rdent4hof on Oct 16, 2009 10:47 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

How many passes

has Olsen dropped?

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by Dane Noble on Oct 16, 2009 11:01 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I can recall 2 for sure, but it seems like there have been more.

I’ve done a search and can’t find any stats on dropped passes for 2009, any suggestions on that?

by BearFan611 on Oct 16, 2009 11:35 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

The best site I've found for that

is at iwon.com, but they don’t have this year’s numbers up.

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by Dane Noble on Oct 16, 2009 11:46 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

If you change the toggle to dropped passes

he’s not on the list (which has a minimum of 2).

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by Dane Noble on Oct 16, 2009 11:44 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I don't see how they can be correct on that.

Does anyone know how they define a “dropped pass”? Do they only count it when there is no hit involved or even imminent? Just curious, perhaps that’s where the difference is. I think a tight end needs to catch the ball even if he sees a hit coming or when he’s fighting for the ball. I’m not talking about the hit he took in the Pittsburgh game, anyone would have dropped that one.

by BearFan611 on Oct 16, 2009 11:55 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I know the way iwon tallied it

was the ball had to be catchable to count as a drop. I’m not sure about the Washington Post, but I think they would do the same.

Maybe just obvious drops, not ones that were knocked out due to contact, like the one vs Pitt you mentioned.

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by Dane Noble on Oct 16, 2009 12:01 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I remember

 at least two… One early in the Green Bay game and one early in the Pittsburgh game… past that, I can’t say.
 
It’s certainly possible I’m misremembering and it’s possible one or two that I thought were 100% catchable, were not considered catchable by the statistician.

Regardless, he hasn’t played as well as he should’ve/could’ve this year… IMO.

by rdent4hof on Oct 16, 2009 12:07 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

To clarify

I wasn’t talking about the incomplete pass, in which Olsen had the taste knocked out of his mouth, in the Steelers game.

by rdent4hof on Oct 16, 2009 12:10 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

He needs to watch some Ditka video....

He plays with fear instead of being fearless I noticed ever since one of our old safeties playing now with Carolina rocked his ass a couple of times he has been very average and that is sad since he is a big target but is scared of getting hit. Cutler needs to look for the open guy more than trying to keep this kid happy, the way opposing cornerbacks play Knox I’d be throwing his side all day until they come in close and burn their asses with the long ball I think it’s pretty simple but I guess he wants to get everyone involved which is cool but not when its third and six and old butterfingers cant make the play to move the sticks not cool Bro!

by payton#34 on Oct 15, 2009 10:50 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Holy cow

Easy on the subject title.

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by propheteer on Oct 15, 2009 10:57 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I didn't realize

You could type that many words in the subject line, rofl. First time for everything i guess. What got me was that they said he was trying to improve on his blocking. This is the one area that he has no choice to improve in if he wants to make it in the NFL. Yeah he is fast, but in order to be a complete NFL TE you have to get your hands dirty too, without a doubt the TE has to be the most physical person on Offense..at least skill positionwise. Olsen to me just doesn’t act tough enough, like someone said earlier it seems some plays he is dropping the ball because he is anticipating getting hit up the middle..that is the wrong answer.

I was one of the people picking Olsen to shine this year and make the pro bowl also, but honestly he needs to show me he can become an every down TE and not just an oversized WR, he needs to get mean basically.

But yes, as Ifuwanna said he does have 2 touchdowns, so he is doing his job in the red zone, i just wanna see more intensity outside of the red zone.

by Chitownproduct on Oct 16, 2009 7:55 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

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