The Quotable Bears - Week Six
by ChiFan13 on Oct 19, 2009 10:00 AM CDT
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PrintMy job finally ended today, so I was able to watch the game last night. Huzzah! Unfortunately, it went downhill from there. Let me run through my quick thoughts before we get to the good stuff:
1) Jay Cutler. First pick? On him. Second pick? Not so much. I took a look at it again (thank God for DVR) and it does look like there was some miscommunication between Cutler and Olsen.
Let's give Cutler some credit. He was able to make plays with his feet and he took some shots by staying in the pocket and waiting for plays to develop.
2) Our offensive line is awful. Seriously. God f****** awful. They made stupid plays at the absolute worse time. Orlando Pace = bad. Frank Omiyale = needs to leave. Chris Williams = somewhat bad. Regardless, we really need to get it figured out, because either Cutler will get killed or Forte will really turn into #3.
3) Look, Matt Forte may be partially bad because of our OL. At the same time, he's a very, very tentative runner this year. I have no idea why, but he's running scared this year. Even when he's in the open field, he looks scared. When Garrett Wolfe was in, he was hitting the hole quickly and making sure he's getting some sort of positive yardage. As soon as one defender shows up, Forte slows down. No idea why.
There are too many bad things to cover, so I'm not going to. Let's move on.
Lovie Smith on the game:
"We had a lot of opportunities to win the football game. You can't make those types of mistakes on the road against a good football team. When you have the ball in the red zone, you need to be able to get some points, and those turnovers really hurt us a lot. You've got to be able to put points on the board in those situations. Just like we've won with all three phases kicking in, everyone contributed to [the loss], starting with me. I have to do a better job. We all have to do a better job.
"Even with [all the miscues], we still put ourselves in position at the end to tie the game and have a chance to win the game and kind of self-destructed a little bit there. So, yeah, that is disappointing."
Lovie Smith on Forte's performance:
"It's like that sometimes. They're a good football team. They're a 4-1 team. They have a decent defense. You're not going to always be able to run the football against them. I thought we did some good things at times against them though."
Lovie Smith on Pisa's injury:
"Pisa went down with a knee injury; that's about all we know. He couldn't finish the football game. Of course there's concern when that happens."
Matt Forte on his performance:
"It's very frustrating. I can't turn the ball over and I turned the turned the ball over. I can't turn the ball over, and I turned the ball over ... twice. Can't do that. We definitely had multiple chances to put points on the board. We could've gotten at least a field goal out of the one I had. I can't turn the ball over, especially in the red zone."
Greg Olsen on the game:
"We just didn't make enough plays to win. We didn't play very well. It's a tough one the way it went down."
Orlando Pace on either being too fat or too lazy to hold himself together on one of the most crucial 4th downs of his career:
"Mistake on my part. Just got to fix it, get better and move on next week. As an offensive line, you got to pride yourself in getting that yard and getting into the end zone."
Lance Briggs on the game:
"For us, it was a game of missed opportunities. When you're ineffective defensively and offensively, you have to really go back to the drawing board and figure some things out. But when you are effective offensively and defensively and just miss some opportunities, then you're just kicking yourself."
Zack Bowman on the game:
"One of our focuses of the second quarter of the season is getting more turnovers. We talked about it again at halftime, and we came out and got two in the second half."
Adewale Ogunleye on the game:
"When you're on the road, you've got to play well. You've got to be consistent. We had too many opportunities to win the game and just didn't capitalize. Hats off go to the Atlanta Falcons. They deserved to win."
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Bowman made an INT. I was happy to see him make it. It may give him a confidence boost to become the playmaker we saw in preseason and training camp.
and vasher made one. may boost his confidence again too. Vasher for nickel if manning is FS anyone?
no
Vasher should immediately be promoted to Unrestricted Free Agent
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by BearNecessities on Oct 19, 2009 12:55 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
was vasher
in for bowman that play?
still haven’t figured that out.
he was
but why is the question, unless bowman was taking a breather, only thing i can think of
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by BearNecessities on Oct 19, 2009 2:21 PM CDT up reply actions
Yeah, but then the inevitable fumbleitis set in
Never seen a Bears team both lose fumbles and/or fail to recover the other team’s fumbles as much as last night. And there’s this, also:
“They have a decent defense.”
Er, not really, Lovie. You should have been able to run on that defense, Lovie. And why was Pisa playing, when it would appear that his knee injury was not yet fully healed?
Completely
I’ll add- they should’ve been able to run at an undersized DT like Anderson. If they can’t run up the middle against a sub-290lbs. lineman, there’s little chance they do it against the Williams’ Wall or anyone for that matter.
"Repetition is only good when you've been winning." - Valet
This may sound harsh... and an over-reaction...
But, I’m done with Lovie Smith. 2 weeks to prepare for this game, and we litter the field with penalties and bone-headed mistakes.
Once again, we manage to screw up a punt situation on Sunday Night Football… this time by having too many men on the field, as opposed to the last time, when we thought the other team had too many on the field.
And again… we turn the ball over twice inside the 15 yard line.
When asked about the Falcons no-huddle, Lovie Smith said the Bears weren’t prepared for that. When they asked Matt Ryan about the no-huddle, Ryan said it’s something they’ve run often. So, let me get this straight… you had two weeks to prepare, and you were unprepared?
When Roddy White scored his TD, we had 2 guys covering 3 guys on the right side of the field…. another huge miscue.
Coaching, coaching, coaching… was largely at fault for the loss of this game, as it often proves to be the fault in all of our losses to good teams.
"You win because of the quarterback. We have to get that position stabilized. We're fixated on that." -- Jerry Angelo (12.30.2008)
Jerry Angelo trades for Jay Cutler! (4.2.2009)
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by SackMan on Oct 19, 2009 10:43 AM CDT reply actions 7 recs
Rec your assessment, and I'll add Ron Turner to the indictment.
Imaginative play-calling. Ron Turner vs Mularkey. Not even close. The Falcons mix it up just enough to confuse a defense. Ron Turner is just over matched.
by Mike Mueller on Oct 19, 2009 10:58 AM CDT up reply actions
1st and goal from the 1-foot line
and we can’t quite get it in. Turner’s play calling in the red zone is truly atrocious. Granted, so is the execution.
And I agree with Sack Man up to a point – I’m also not done with Lovie but damn the coaching with 2-weeks to prepare for that game was truly awful.
I'm not so mean. I wouldn't ever go out to hurt anybody deliberately - unless it was, you know, important, like a league game or something. - Dick Butkus
Ron Turner not even average
Ron Turner is at very best a mediocre coordinator. His lack of imagination and ineptitude is astounding. It was evident in the first quarter that the Bears were getting completely blown off the line by Atlanta and rushing up the middle was doomed. Yet, time after time after time this idiot kept calling running plays up the middle. Kyle Orton is now on a team that has an offensive coordinator. And look at him go! He was average in Chicago. Turner is good at what he does. He will make Cutler average too. Just wait and see.
I'm not done with Lovie...
but I definitely feel where you’re coming from.
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by David Taylor on Oct 19, 2009 11:05 AM CDT up reply actions
well said... and on point!
Usually I’m of the thought that it’s on the players, but with the extra week to prepare your team, and they come out that unprepared, it falls on the coaches…
Lovie Smith has to make the playoffs or he’s gone.
by Lester A. Wiltfong Jr. on Oct 19, 2009 11:57 AM CDT up reply actions
I challenge all Bear fans
to really watch the upcoming games from strategy, adjustments and decision making perspective.
I would agree that it's an over-reaction
Because there’s no way to gauge how much of last night’s performance was lack of preparation vs. how much was the players just not executing. I agree with Lovie’s explanation:
"Just like we’ve won with all three phases kicking in, everyone contributed to the loss, starting with me. I have to do a better job. We all have to do a better job."
I’m not saying I wasn’t disappointed about the outcome last night, considering how many points/opportunities we left on the field, but I’m more interested in seeing how we bounce back next week. If the team appears as discombobulated as they did last night vs. Atlanta, then that’s when I’ll start questioning the coaching staff’s ability to prepare the team.
Ditto,
We get pro bowl quarterback, By the benefit of a few close calls we’re 3-2. Denver gets our throw away QB and there 5-0. Cedric Benson, Top 5 in rushing. Thomas Jones, Better than when he was here. Somethings not adding up. Maybe there’s blame to go around but I say it has to fall to Lovie.
Some of the Cubs mojo (or lack thereof)
has brushed off on the Bears. The football gods haven’t been very nice the past couple of years.
"Repetition is only good when you've been winning." - Valet
Hope its ok for a Bronco fan to post here... =/
I saw some of the shenanigans (Shannahanigans, as I like to call them) that went on last night in your game thread… and I’m sorry you guys had to endure that. Any die-hard fan should know how hard it is to talk about a closely-fought, emotional game that was lost in the final seconds…. and then to take some needling, well… I can’t say I blame you guys at all for some of your reactions.
Anyways, all I wanted to say was this… after seeing last night’s game and even after watching all of the Bears’ games so far this season, I have never wanted Cutler back more than now. I thought, aside from a few errant/high throws, he played lights out last night. How a QB could have so little help from his OL and RB’s… and still almost put their team in position to go into OT was pretty amazing. BTW, I thought if Dez had continued thru the DB bumps, he still had a pretty good chance at the ball, a first down, and maybe even a TD.
Yes, the redzone INT was bad and I thought the 2nd INT kind of changed the tone of the game and gave ATL some renewed life, but given how much Cutler was harrassed throughout the entire the game, I am pretty shocked he didn’t have a 2-3 more picks! I thought his pocket presence and ability to keep plays alive were great, and his long scramble, and staying true in the pocket, delivering on-target passes, while taking some hellacious shots… just amazing to watch.
You guys might have another year or so to hammer out the problems on the OL and RB, but I like what I see out of Cutler and your WR’s.
In the other phases of the game, I thought your normally stellar ST’s looked like… well, not stellar… almost like Denver’s of years past… and your Defense while mostly containing the high-powered ATL offense, let them score with too much ease in a few spots… though it’s hard to blame them on that last drive after the kick off coverage let ATL start at mid-field.
My wife was being her typical doom-n-gloom self and proclaimed the division lost… but I said while yes, it will be an uphill battle to unseat Minny, that you guys should still contend for the wildcard and have some strong building blocks for next year.
Oh and I can’t believe Pisa’s luck… first game back after the kickoff of the GB game and he gets carted off. =/
Nice recap and thanks
I as well thought he played well and put us in position to win the game a few times only for other mistakes to kill us (one which was his in the red zone). But it is not going to come overnight but it is exciting to have a QB to buils around.
Roachy love the run stuffin', but don't forget about the TE over the middle!!
much appreciated
we had a few trollers over here that ruffled a few feathers, but overall, it was a tough loss.
i’m glad that orton is working out well for you guys, and I am still 100% happy that we have cutler.
Pisa has bad luck… hopefully they bring him back for next year if he’s out for the season. he’s a hard player with a nose for big plays.
its crazy to imagine if you guys still had cutler with how much your defense has improved. Broncos would be devastatingly good haha
I heard about Pisa
That he came back maybe too early from his injury and got it re-injured
by CutlerDabears on Oct 19, 2009 3:20 PM CDT up reply actions
I'm not going to blame the receivers on the INT's, but...
…did Olsen even raise his arms up in an attempt for the ball. Yeah, it was high… I get it… but make an effort, you’re 6’5" for Ditka’s sake.
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God
I could do Lovie’s press conference. Never says anything of importance. The injury line is always the same. We have some injuries, that’s all we know. Thanks Lovie.
Can he just call it a game or The game, we all know it’s football.
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Lovie's post game presser .. .in summary...
“We were in a game. It was in Atlanta. The kicked us the ball and we caught it. Then we ran some plays. They ran some plays. And in the end, they scored more points which means they won.”
Reminds me of Magic Johnson
When he was commentating in the ’92 NBA finals.
“Who ever puts the ball in the basket more times, wins”
"Repetition is only good when you've been winning." - Valet
taking his cues from madden
they either run it here… or pass it
wise beyond his years
"I'm sorry Josh, I'm with Chicago now, you need to stop calling me" -JerBear50 as Jay Cutler
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by BearNecessities on Oct 19, 2009 12:59 PM CDT up reply actions
Quote never heard
Lovie-
“I had no idea Atlanta would ever run the no-huddle offense, especially since Matt Ryan isn’t an elite QB”
Turner-
“I tried to call a FB dive to McKie, but I guess Cutler didn’t hear me. It’s my bread and butter play if you didn’t know already.”
Cutler-
“I tried to use my rocket, laser, stronger than Elway’s arm to sneak those passes into Olsen and Hester. Next time I’ll throw harder!”
Toub-
Reason for having 12 men on the field-
“I was trying out a new magic trick I tried at home once. Obviously, the disappearing act failed miserably.”
Roach-
“Who would’ve thought that Tony Gonzales was trying to get behind me in the end-zone?”
Briggs-
On why he didn’t just fall on the fumble-
“Would you trust our offense to score in the red-zone? Me neither.”
"Repetition is only good when you've been winning." - Valet
by propheteer on Oct 19, 2009 12:28 PM CDT reply actions 8 recs
Haha.
"Would you trust our offense to score in the red-zone? Me neither."
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by David Taylor on Oct 19, 2009 12:34 PM CDT up reply actions
Sums it up perfectly. Well done.
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by Ditkavsworld on Oct 19, 2009 2:41 PM CDT up reply actions
Thanks
It was the frustration that made me do it.
"Repetition is only good when you've been winning." - Valet
Some of this stuff is over the top.
Lovie actually called a pretty good game(aside from when they ran the no huddle) managing to hold back a very tough offense. I understand how frustrating it is to watch him though. I swear he gives off the impression that he doesn’t care. One thing to remember is we really do have a weak secondary. Lovie’s play calling has actually made them look pretty good up to this point.
In my opinion(and it is just that) our problems are stemming from Ron Turner’s inept play calling and the woeful play of our offensive line. Ron Turner should have been fired last year. He is routinely outclassed at this level of football just like he was last time he was our O-cor.
My question, is how much control he has in the O-line scheme? I think the bears really need to look for an offensive line coach next year. This scheme, with this personnel is not working.
Disagreeing a little
I do agree with what you said about Lovie’s play calling… BUT, wasn’t Roach slow making calls and adjustments at the line for much of the game? IMO that doesn’t fall on Roach (he’s a third stringer). I believe that falls on Lovie for not having a third stringer ready.
Yeah but....
Reward= 3 wins, Risk = 2 losses…..
Just sayin.
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by Ditkavsworld on Oct 19, 2009 2:42 PM CDT up reply actions
And that's only if
you put both losses on him.
Be nice. Flag comments that you think are offensive. Use the "reply" button. Drink plenty of water. Compliment others. Rec (wreck) comments and posts you like. Don't call people names. If you don't like someone's comment, attack the comment and not the commentor. Learn the difference in your/you're, then/than, to/too. Exercise. Relax. Stretch often. Find good in the world.
Just because it can be done on Madden NFL does not automatically make it a viable option in real life.
Uhhh... Every loss is on him.
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by David Taylor on Oct 19, 2009 5:33 PM CDT up reply actions
Not yesterday's.
Be nice. Flag comments that you think are offensive. Use the "reply" button. Drink plenty of water. Compliment others. Rec (wreck) comments and posts you like. Don't call people names. If you don't like someone's comment, attack the comment and not the commentor. Learn the difference in your/you're, then/than, to/too. Exercise. Relax. Stretch often. Find good in the world.
Just because it can be done on Madden NFL does not automatically make it a viable option in real life.
EVERY LOSS, D*MMIT!
Regular season losses, Pre-season losses, loss of keys, losses of loved ones, loss of one’s virginity… EVERY LOSS!
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by David Taylor on Oct 19, 2009 6:08 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
ROFL!
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by BearNecessities on Oct 19, 2009 6:18 PM CDT up reply actions
Jeebus you're killing me.
and I didn’t mean he is the reason we have two losses.
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by Ditkavsworld on Oct 19, 2009 8:13 PM CDT up reply actions
Yeah, I know. :)
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by David Taylor on Oct 19, 2009 8:29 PM CDT up reply actions
You could
make an argument that he was mainly responsible. Two trips into the red-zone resulted in no points, and he also missed an open Knox for what would’ve been a TD. He was off, and looked reminiscent of another strong-armed Bears QB who loved to throw off his back foot.
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