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Shame on the Bears coaches.  I don't say that too often, but last night you would have thought that we had to play that game on short notice. There is no way that a team who wants to be significant contenders in their conference (or division for that matter) can have two weeks to prepare for a game, and end up looking so lost.

Penalties, miscues, blown coverage... we had two weeks to get our game together.  Shame on our coaches.

Star-divide

- Garrett Wolfe looked nice in kick off coverage.  Not sure why he's making special teams tackles when he's the only other RB active for the game, but he looked good nonetheless.

- Ron Turner tried twice to throw the ball to Jason McKie, once as a screen in Q1, and once in play-action near the goal line in Q3.

- Matt Forte continues to excel in picking up the blitz.  Great blocker.

- I am so very tired of seeing Jay Cutler throw off-balance.  His Happy Feet Syndrome has got to be coached out of him.  Set your feet Jay!

- Defense came out strong at the start of the game, with three straight 3/ outs for Atlanta, and a punt in their first 4 possessions.

- Nick Roach plays hard.  He needs some coaching, and more experience, but I like his energy on the field.

- Orlando Pace and Chris Williams had their hands full last night with John Abraham and Krory Biermann.  Considering those tough match-ups, I give the nod to Pace/ Williams.  Nice job fellas.

- Should an offensive holding penalty really be 10 yards?  That seems excessive.  Maybe 5 yards and replay the down.

- Frank Omiyale is not a long-term answer for our OL.  

- Roberto Garza can still drive folks 10 yards down the field.  He got beat last night a few times as well, but it is fun to see his meanness come out every now and then.

- The Falcons WRs were finding holes in our coverage early in the game, but luckily it took Matt Ryan a while to find his rhythm.  Early miscues kept us in the game.

- If you, or anyone you know, still thinks Devin Hester should not be returning punts (ChiFan13), please stop.  Hester is good at PRs.

- Tony Gonzales is strong. We tried stripping the ball a couple of times when a normal person would not have been able to hang on to the ball.  Tony G did.

- Pisa Tinoisamoa = "Cement Wall" according to Al Michaels.  Hard for a nickname like that to stick if he can't stay healthy.  

- Trade deadline is Tuesday at 4pm.  Jerry Angelo has to be thinking of bringing in another LB.

- Jay Cutler is over-throwing his WRs too much.  Definitely a symptom of not setting his feet.

- Bears pass rush?  Hello?  Hellooooo?  Two weeks to get ready, and zero sacks?  No defensive lineman had more than 2 tackles.  Shame on our coaches.

- Atlanta had two straight 3 and outs to start the second half.  Per usual for our defense.  How about sustaining that throughout an entire half, coaches?

- Desmond Clark showed some great hands, just like he did in the pre-season.  We've got to get him more involved in the passing game.

- I am not typically too harsh on Ron Turner's play calling, but our red zone performance last night was terrible.  You don't call a sweep on the goal line!

- Al Afalava continues to make big plays.  He was out of position a couple of times, but also did a mighty fine job on Tony G a few times last night.  I like Afalava.

- 9 more penalties last night.  Shame on our coaches.

- Special teams coverage was ungood.  Dave Toub, you had two weeks like everyone else did.

- If we play an entire game of good football, we can beat anyone on our schedule.  Unfortunately, we are our own worst enemy.  Time to reevaluate some things, and seriously look at our OL and coaching staff.

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I agree with you on almost every point, especially the coaching

I understand one set of downs where the No Huddle confuses you, but I find it hard to believe that they didn’t prepare for it a little. It’s not like it’s the first time the Falcons have ever used it. For the millionth time, Lovie Smith is not a good HC. He doesn’t make his teams mentally tough, and please don’t everyone start talking about screaming and yelling, that’s not what I’m talking about. When your team continuously makes mistakes in the Red Zone and in big games (this should have been a statement game coming off the bye after beating a terrible Lions team), it’s because the coaches don’t hold their players to a high enough standard. I like the attention to turnovers, but I’d rather see Lovie preach more TACKLING!!! The Roddy White td should have been a short completion, nothing more.

I will “man-up” and admit that Hester looked great on PR’s last night, even though I’ve been a critic of his in that area. If he can put a 2 game stretch together, I’m sold again. I also have to say, he is looking more and more like a top notch WR as well, and that I’ve said for a few weeks now. You have to give him credit for putting the work in and really stepping up in that area.

Greg Olsen made the best play he’s made since he’s been a Bear on the long pass completion. He still doesn’t look like a dependable TE to me (see the 2 catches that Desomond Clark made, Olsen never holds on to those passes).

I haven’t been too tough on Ron Turner, but last night I would have gladly watched someone throw him out of the coaches box. When your o-line, for the last 2 years hasn’t shown any ability to get a tough yard, why would you run 3 straight plays with that tight formation and have all 11 defenders in the box? You spent two number one’s on a QB and that’s as creative as you get at the goal line? That was ridiculous.

I was a big Orton fan, but people need to cut Jay some slack on the 2 picks. Obviously, you don’t want to see them, but they weren’t bad decisons, just missed throws. Everyone makes a physical mistake once in awhile. I do agree with you about setting his feet, but outside of that I think he played pretty well. I also feel that he knows he has no running game to fall back on and his o-line is not going to give him any time to sit in the pocket, so he’s getting antsy even when he doesn’t need to, but I can’t really blame him. The Bears need to bring in a different o-line coach or admit that Omiyale either stinks or is out of positon, pick one and make a change.

by BearFan611 on Oct 19, 2009 7:53 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Completely agreed

Lifelong Arizona Cardinals/Chicago Bears fan.

No band-wagoner fans allowed, pick a team and stick with em, throughout the good and the bad.

by JoeCB1991 on Oct 19, 2009 4:36 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

- Frank Omiyale is not a long-term answer for our OL.

Nor is he a short-term answer either!

I’m not placing the loss all on him, nor am I jumping on the “Omiyale sucks” bandwagon (I’ve been driving that bus for a while). The guy just doesn’t have it and I really don’t care how much we’re paying… sit him!

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by smudgers on Oct 19, 2009 8:04 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

the kid

is good OT depth. not a good guard. i wouldn’t be mad if he was eventually a starting tackle for us. but he’s just horrible at guard. some people just can’t play both positions.

by Nih1lus on Oct 19, 2009 9:33 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

One other thing I forgot to mention...

since Aromashadu was activated, wouldn’t it make sense to put your tallest receiver who developed a great relationship with your franchise QB and supposedly does a great job of jumping for the ball in the game when you’re in the Red Zone? I think the Falcons’ CB’s were under 6’ tall. Again, coaching brilliance by the Bears.

by BearFan611 on Oct 19, 2009 8:18 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

I don't think the wr's were our problem

they played great last night. If you need a tall receiver at the goal continue to use Olsen.

Roachy love the run stuffin', but don't forget about the TE over the middle!!

by tfrabotta on Oct 19, 2009 9:18 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I'm not saying they were the problem at all

but since he was activated for the first time this season and we had trouble getting the ball into the end zone, why wouldn’t you use another weapon? What kind of matchups would we have had if you had Olsen, Kellen Davis, and DA in at the same time. One of those guys should be able to jump over a DB. No, instead our coaching staff thought it would be more effective to run 3 times in a row when we haven’t been able to run the ball all year.

by BearFan611 on Oct 19, 2009 9:32 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

hmm

I've got this thing and it's fucking golden!

by SoulEater7 on Oct 19, 2009 8:33 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

hmmmmm

I've got this thing and it's fucking golden!

by SoulEater7 on Oct 19, 2009 8:34 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

I'm officially

off the “Our O-line is gonna gel” band wagon. Omiyale has shown more awful than good.
I was unimpressed with Kreutz, again. That being said, I’m not giving Forte a pass. He needs to improve, but Forte isn’t near the issue that the O-line is (specifically <strongSchwank Frank).

The team must feel embarrassed today, as they should.

 GeauxBears pretty much said it all. Bad O-line, ST, coaching, etc… I do want to add, Earl Bennett has shown continued fearlessness going across the middle. A big kudos to you Earl! Really to all the receivers, kudos! You’re a strength, to this team!

Olsen looked better, but could still make some tougher catches…

by rdent4hof on Oct 19, 2009 8:50 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Earl...

looks like the best receiver on the team. Maybe I’m riding his jock a little hard (Hester has been playing way better than I’ve expected) but if he’s not the best receiver on the team, he definitely has the best hands.

Bear Down, Chicago Bears!

by topdoggkyle on Oct 19, 2009 8:54 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Bears

The Bears O-line might be the worst line in the history of football. That’s where this game was lost. The same bullshit. The line makes the worst rush defenses look outstanding. This team will not be a contender until changes are made on the line.

Defense played great all game until they actually needed to play great. They needed a big stop on that last drive but the Falcons jammed the ball down their throat. Zero pressure on Ryan. That line must be outstanding.

The Bears left 6 points at least on the board. You can’t turn the ball over twice in the redzone. If the Bears kicked FGs, they would have been down 1 and the end of the game would have been easier for the Bears.

Until this team can put together 4 solid quarters of football, I’m saying Pretenders.

by McRipper on Oct 19, 2009 8:57 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

The line just can't run-block

And it looks like Forte’s numbers are just going to continue to get worse as the year goes on. Most running teams should be able to grind out a couple of tough yards when they get down to the goal line – but not this team. This team gets off the bus walking, at best. And I think it’s time that Lovie stopped giving us the “we’re a running team” bs.

I liked the way the defense played overall, especially starting the game with those 3-and-out series. I think that Atlanta is one of the most potent offenses in the league, and the Bears held their own. But when you get inside the 5 yard line and you can’t move the ball, that’s a big problem. It’s a shame because we really played well enough overall to win this ball-game.

by JimmyMack on Oct 19, 2009 9:05 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

That's the problem

They seem to do “just” enough to win or be in a position to win. That first drive was a thing of beauty until that Hester fade in the endzone. What a terrible play call. I knew after that, the Bears wouldn’t score. I had this 6th sense. The only hope is that the Bears play like absolute shit but still find a way to stay in a game.

by McRipper on Oct 19, 2009 9:18 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

You didnt see the seahawk game yesterday did you?

that is the worst in football..we might be second..

Roachy love the run stuffin', but don't forget about the TE over the middle!!

by tfrabotta on Oct 19, 2009 9:19 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

No

I missed it. Well, if they are worse than the Bears,…. wait a minute, that’s impossible.

by McRipper on Oct 19, 2009 9:21 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

well I watched that whole game

and Hasselbeck got me one fantasy point because he was running for his life all day. J.Jones had 5 yards rushing…

Roachy love the run stuffin', but don't forget about the TE over the middle!!

by tfrabotta on Oct 19, 2009 9:26 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yeah, package that with playing against brady...

Roachy love the run stuffin', but don't forget about the TE over the middle!!

by tfrabotta on Oct 19, 2009 9:47 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

As a Cardinals fan I got a kick out of that one.

I don’t hate any of the other teams in the NFC West, but seeing the Seahawks get thrashed like was really entertaining. Thats the worst I have ever seen the Seahawks play.

If only the Bears could have won last night, then it would have been perfect.

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by JoeCB1991 on Oct 19, 2009 4:39 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Totally Agree 100%

Our Oline was a JOKE!
Frank O needs to GO! That’s my new chant. The guy is a revolving door and blocks for no one!

by Bearsguy34 on Oct 20, 2009 12:04 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

i noticed this as well
His Happy Feet Syndrome has got to be coached out of him. Set your feet Jay!

although on many of those throws stepping up would have resulted in him kissing a defensive lineman.

by mike b on Oct 19, 2009 9:01 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

I agree

hard to set your feet when Omilaye’s guy is running free right at you on 50% of the snaps..

Roachy love the run stuffin', but don't forget about the TE over the middle!!

by tfrabotta on Oct 19, 2009 9:20 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I think that's a bit exaggerated.

My point was, Cutler won’t plant his feet even when he’s got time. Sure ATL brought some pressure, and he had to throw off balance a lot. But other times, he didn’t have to.

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by Dane Noble on Oct 19, 2009 9:23 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I think he does occaisionally when he has locked in

on a wr so slides the pocket. But I think he moves becuase he has to most of the time GB.

Roachy love the run stuffin', but don't forget about the TE over the middle!!

by tfrabotta on Oct 19, 2009 9:24 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I said it on another post...

If Orton were back there playing with this line – he’d be out with a concussion or dead. Cutler is actually doing a pretty amazing job, under the circumtances.

by JimmyMack on Oct 19, 2009 9:23 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

on a few replays

i could see him block a man (good for him), and then get off the assignment, let him run past him, and help one of the other O-Linemen with their assignment. idiot!

by Nih1lus on Oct 19, 2009 9:37 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I didn't mind the pitch on the goal line

Atlanta was really pinching middle, then on the pitch they didn’t pinch, a good call by Atl… my biggest concern is the Bears O-Line is getting driven back on a regular basis, not all 5 every time, but enough to be a problem

by wiltfongjr on Oct 19, 2009 9:05 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

We have a great play-action QB

and great TEs in play-action situations near the goal line. I’ll agree with you on our OL getting handled, but that pitch was a terrible call.

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by Dane Noble on Oct 19, 2009 9:14 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I wouldn't mind more creativeness on the goal line.

They just look predictable.

I've got this thing and it's fucking golden!

by SoulEater7 on Oct 19, 2009 9:16 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

QB sneak

I am all for predictable..

Roachy love the run stuffin', but don't forget about the TE over the middle!!

by tfrabotta on Oct 19, 2009 9:21 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I'm convinced

that a team could put 2 lineman on goalline D and still penetrate the backfield. 100% correct the Bears are too predictable on goalline O.

by McRipper on Oct 19, 2009 9:23 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I agree, I was hoping they would bring out the Wildbear formation again

It was pleasantly surprising to see Turner do something…well, different than normal when he unwrapped the direct snap to Hester.

Maybe this is something that could have been unleashed at the goaline on say 2nd down to cause confusion with ATL’s D, at worst, ATL would probably have to burn a TO to get the right personel in on D.

Unreasonable people make life difficult...

by WisBearsFan34 on Oct 19, 2009 1:45 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

the only problem

with running the WIldBear is that the defense KNOWS it will be a run. I don’t think Forte, Hester or Wolfe can throw the ball at all, which is different than, say, Miami, where the D knows that Ronnie Brown throws it halfway decently.

Cleveland ran it with Cribbs yesterday, and although he threw a pick, it still had to be in the back of the Steelers’ mind(s) everytime they ran it.

by Cosmis on Oct 19, 2009 4:15 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I think it is worth noting...

That Matt Ryan is rarely sacked. That is a product of both the O-line and the QB. We did manage to put some pressure on him – I thought the D-line played well.

I thought the defensive secondary played very well.

I didn’t think Pace played very well, any speed rusher will eat him alive (Jared Allen will have Cutler running for his life all game). The left side of our O-line is atrocious – bring on Beekman. The right side of the O-line is so-so.

I can’t recall seeing this many “lookout blocks” from a Bear O-line. (Definition: A “lookout block” is where the offensive lineman whiffs on his block, turns around yells “Lookout!!!”

if this isn’t fixed soon, the Bears will once again miss the playoffs…

by Fire Ron Turner on Oct 19, 2009 9:06 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

I think two things need to be done this week...

Beekman for # 68 and sign a RB off the scrap heap. I think that could temper some of my anger. # 68 was a mistake and they need to show some balls and bench his ass.

 This Oline is one of the worst in the league and they should start to replace people.

I've got this thing and it's fucking golden!

by SoulEater7 on Oct 19, 2009 9:07 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

I think it's pretty much unanimous that Omiyale is a bust...

How would you rank the rest of the Bears O-lineman from best to worst?

I’d say:

1) Williams
2) Garza
3) Kreutz
4) Pace

by JimmyMack on Oct 19, 2009 9:14 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

I'm done with Pace, Kreutz and Graza.

They look so slow.

I've got this thing and it's fucking golden!

by SoulEater7 on Oct 19, 2009 9:19 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Garza is playing okay

Roachy love the run stuffin', but don't forget about the TE over the middle!!

by tfrabotta on Oct 19, 2009 9:23 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Kreutz

redeemed himself a little in my eyes after KILLING Decoud after the first INT. That was an excellent tackle for an O-Lineman.

by Cosmis on Oct 19, 2009 4:16 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

That was one hell of a wrap up

maybe he should slide to DT.

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by BearNecessities on Oct 19, 2009 4:31 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

great

maybe he can fill in at lb becuase he can’t block…

Roachy love the run stuffin', but don't forget about the TE over the middle!!

by tfrabotta on Oct 19, 2009 7:19 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Kreutz behind Pace

why do you think we can’t run up the middle? Kreutz has jumped the shark and is done. Same thing that happened to Tait last year as he has lost it. he can’t move anyone and is the main reason we cannot run the ball.

Roachy love the run stuffin', but don't forget about the TE over the middle!!

by tfrabotta on Oct 19, 2009 9:22 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Kreutz isn't playing great

but he’s better than Pace. Pace is washed up. Too slow. any speed rush, or spin move and he’s left wondering where is guy went.

by Fire Ron Turner on Oct 19, 2009 9:29 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Pace manhandled Abraham several times last night.

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by Dane Noble on Oct 19, 2009 9:30 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I can recall one play

Where Pace “manhandled” Abraham, which was borderline holding. Pace ended up on top of him, almost a tackle.

Pace’s run blocking is terrible. How many times did Cutler roll to his right (not by design) because of pressure from his right?

by Fire Ron Turner on Oct 19, 2009 9:51 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

This really confuses me.
Pace’s run blocking is terrible. How many times did Cutler roll to his right (not by design) because of pressure from his right?

Why would Cutler have to roll out because of run blocking? And Pace plays on the left, so what do you mean rolling to the right because of pressure from the right?

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by Dane Noble on Oct 19, 2009 9:53 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

sorry - that was confusing.

separate points:
1) Pace’s run blocking is terrible
2) As for pass blocking, Pace is better at that, but how many times did Cutler roll to his right, due to pressure from his LEFT?

by Fire Ron Turner on Oct 19, 2009 9:58 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I didn't notice if he man-handled Abraham

But Pace is probably a better pass-protector than a run-blocker, based on his recent performance. I think he only gave up 2 sacks in 14 games last year, if I remember correctly. As far as run blocking, he (like Kreutz) didn’t grade as well.

by JimmyMack on Oct 19, 2009 10:08 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Outside of the false start

I did not think pace played badly last night. Abraham is an elite pass rusher and he did a good job on him.

Roachy love the run stuffin', but don't forget about the TE over the middle!!

by tfrabotta on Oct 19, 2009 9:42 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

i'll see your 110%

and raise you 200% haha

by Nih1lus on Oct 19, 2009 10:05 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Too rich for my blood...

You win. You Nih1lus , shall be Pace’s defender, from those that know not what they say.

by rdent4hof on Oct 19, 2009 10:15 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

actually

everyone besides omiyale has looked decent. williams occasionally has his problems on pass protection, but he’s essentially playing a rookie year. Pace is more prone to collapse the pocket faster, but he usually doesn’t let the DE get to the QB. He needs to get better on Run blocking though.

kreutz and garza are doing respectable jobs. unfortunately, they’re getting up there and will need to be replaced. I will be surprised if our first pick in the draft is not a OL. kreutz is slower getting off the snap and also collapses the pocket a little bit faster than he used to also.

by Nih1lus on Oct 19, 2009 9:43 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Olsen

Is anybody with me that Desmond Clark needs to be the #1 TE? The guy is far and away a better blocker than Olsen and his receiving ability is just as good if not better.

by McRipper on Oct 19, 2009 9:22 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

use them both

Roachy love the run stuffin', but don't forget about the TE over the middle!!

by tfrabotta on Oct 19, 2009 9:23 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Use

clark as 1st and bring up davis to 2nd i want to see more of him

by GtM on Oct 19, 2009 5:09 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

??
  1. Clark
  2. Davis
  3. Olsen

Really?

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by Dane Noble on Oct 19, 2009 5:14 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

ok.. maybe not permanently

but clark is clutch and a good blocker, and olsen has been up and down this season. I’ve liked everything i have seen from davis so far dating back to last preseason. maybe i jump the gun a lil with straight up 2nd string but maybe clarky on 1st and rotate olsen and davis. if nothing else maybe that would fire up olsen to be more consistent.

by GtM on Oct 19, 2009 5:18 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Somehow,

it seems like Cutler and Olsen have lost their mojo a bit. But Cutler has defintely overthrown Olsen several times this year.

But, you are right about Clark… like I stated in another post, we’ve gotta get him involve more in the passing game.

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by Dane Noble on Oct 19, 2009 5:22 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

yeah i'm not saying

that olsen hasnt been overthrown, and obviously the mojo is long gone, but olsen has dropped alot of balls that we know clark would have caught and maybe davis would have. its not like we would be losing a big blocker in olsen. and we would be gaining 2 inches (Davis is 6’7" 262 lbs to Olsen’s 6’5" 255).

But yeah im with you on clark gettin in the passing game more

by GtM on Oct 19, 2009 5:29 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Clark is Clutch.

I will say that.

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by SoulEater7 on Oct 19, 2009 9:34 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Dez Clark

has long had reliable hands, and good blocking for us. i was shocked when they upgraded Olsen over him.

I’m to the point now, where when we get inside the 20, on 1st down, we should just kick the field goal

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by BearNecessities on Oct 19, 2009 12:51 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

On a positive note

I am thrilled with our three wr set of Hester, Bennett, and knox. They have far outplayed our expectations..

Roachy love the run stuffin', but don't forget about the TE over the middle!!

by tfrabotta on Oct 19, 2009 9:28 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

The wide-outs have played solid all year - so far

On several plays I’ve noticed where Cutler was rushed and he just barely over-threw the receiver. It’s gotten to the point where he’s anticipating the pressure even when it’s not there. I don’t know if he had this problem in Denver. Imagine how explosive we’d be with a good offensive line…

by JimmyMack on Oct 19, 2009 9:35 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Hopefully next year

Kreutz big salary comes off the books and we can sign a nice free agent Olineman in the offseason.(ahem left guard???)

Roachy love the run stuffin', but don't forget about the TE over the middle!!

by tfrabotta on Oct 19, 2009 9:43 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

i thought

that’s what we did this past offseason… whoops.

maybe getting a proven guard would be smart. nah, let’s get some guy who started tackle for one game and stick him in at guard. that’s smart.

by Nih1lus on Oct 19, 2009 9:45 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

This year's pickups were patchwork

a backup olineman in #68(can’t sya his name anymore, and an over the hill LT who is still better than the turnstile formerly know as John St.Clair. I mean a big name stud free agent.

Roachy love the run stuffin', but don't forget about the TE over the middle!!

by tfrabotta on Oct 19, 2009 9:46 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

pace is doing alright

i’ll give him the still “gelling” excuse. he has a proven track record. omiyale is just horrible.

I’d actually be interested in seeing a fan post about possible FA guards. not tackles, guards.

by Nih1lus on Oct 19, 2009 9:49 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

yeah

because we sure as hell aren’t drafting one high.

by mike b on Oct 19, 2009 9:50 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

forever...

Roachy love the run stuffin', but don't forget about the TE over the middle!!

by tfrabotta on Oct 19, 2009 9:56 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

by high

i mean first two rounds.

by mike b on Oct 19, 2009 10:04 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

but still

you can find a 3rd round guard who would be better than Omi. I guarantee it.

by Cosmis on Oct 19, 2009 4:18 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

nope

we traded our 3rd rounder to Denver as well

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by BearNecessities on Oct 19, 2009 4:31 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

???

we gave them last years third round pick didn’t we? Because we had 2??

Roachy love the run stuffin', but don't forget about the TE over the middle!!

by tfrabotta on Oct 19, 2009 7:20 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

it's possible

so many draft picks come and gone i get confused sometimes

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by BearNecessities on Oct 19, 2009 7:25 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Coaching

Bottom line…. our coaching continues to be our achilles heel. I definitely understand that at the end of the day, the personnel on the field have to execute BUT coaching has to put those individuals in the right position to succeed. I think Smith and his staff do a poor job of meeting that goal. There are a number of excuses… injuries being one of the most used.

I am not going to try and cite example after example of this continued buffoonery from the sidelines and the booth. Anyone who either played or coached the game can see it clearly. I am certainly not saying I could do any better from my couch. I am not paid handsomely to do it. Smith is. And he just does not cut it. It is easy for me to sit at home, in my recliner, beer in hand and second guess every call. It just seems the second guessing is far too easy.

This is not new on my mind. Dates back to the super bowl run and prior. Smith was COMPLETELY outcoached in that super bowl loss and continues to be week after week. Unfortunately, because of the athletes we do have, we are able to compete and win more games than we lose. However, that re-enforces Smith and his staff so they believe they are doing the right things.

Does anyone else watch Smith on the sidelines? Is it just me or everytime he is on screen he looks completely lost?

by Cards67 on Oct 19, 2009 9:37 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

This would make an interesting post

All by itself.

I think Smith and Marinelli know defensive football – and I’m not worried about their ability to field a defense and make the calls. But offensively, we’re lacking – specifically on the line and making calls in the red-zone.

I will give you this – Smith doesn’t know offensive football. We need to bring someone in who does.

by JimmyMack on Oct 19, 2009 9:45 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I have to disagree with you a little on Smith's abilities.

I think he knows defense from a conceptual standpoint, but he is slow to adjust. This year he has at least done better at halftime, but as we discussed in a post several days ago, halftime adjustments are not as important as series by series and even play by play adjustments, and Lovie, in my opinion, falls short there.

Last night, his inability to adjust to the no huddle offense was amazing to me. Granted, he might have been caught by surprise, but it’s not like this is a new concept in offensive football. They have seen it before and the Falcons have done it before. Over the last two weeks, didn’t our defensive coaching staff look at any film on these guys?

Also, Cards67 is right about him looking lost, it’s agrravated me since they hired him. Do you also notice that when he is discussing a decision by an official, it looks like he’s going to cry. I’ll also throw in his record of throwing the red flag on replays. I’m not sure what the league average is, but before the bye wasn’t there a stat during a game that showed Lovie is less than 50% right in his career? That’s unacceptable.

by BearFan611 on Oct 19, 2009 10:31 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Agree with everything you are saying.

Guess my criticism wasn’t specific enough. I agree that he is likely a good conceptual coach. The lack of adjustments, in general, is hard to stomach as well as the unbelievably poor clock management, challenge flags, use of timeouts, penalties, poor tackling, corners who give 10+ yard cushions ( I saw that more than once last night). I understand the cover 2 and all but how often can we continue to watch competent NFL QB’s throw passes underneath, and watch them march down the field. In reality, if a Robbie Gould quality kicker was on Seattle and Pittsburgh’s roster right now, we would likely be looking at 1-4.

by Cards67 on Oct 19, 2009 11:26 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I was disagreeing with Jimmy Mack

I think you’re right on target in your assessment of Lovie and the coaches

by BearFan611 on Oct 19, 2009 11:28 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

The use of challenge flags at the wrong time

And the confused/blank expressions on the side-line are not encouraging. But they’ve gotten the most out of a group that’s getting old and has seen it’s line-backing corps decimated by injuries. Remember, this was a very explosive Atlanta offense that had just put up 45 points on the road against San Francisco last week. Despite our problems on the offensive with the line and running the ball, the defense kept us in the ball game in a hostile road environment.

by JimmyMack on Oct 19, 2009 1:09 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

mike ditka
Does anyone else watch Smith on the sidelines? Is it just me or everytime he is on screen he looks completely lost?

didn’t win games becasue he yelled.

by mike b on Oct 19, 2009 9:50 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I think it was against the Saints

in the NFC Title Game… Smith called time out right before the half on a Saints 4th down, giving them just enough time to try a hail mary. That coaching blunder always sticks out in my mind. What did he think they were going to do, punt?

"...but the devil lives inside this kid, I swear it. It rises out of him in a mist, this baby-faced defiant wrathful version of Pat Kane, escapes his bodily confines to perform satanic miracles all over the offensive zone. The only thing more fearsome than that assist was the keep-in preceding it. The only thing more unholy than his face is his black magic." GMH

by Illini0509 on Oct 19, 2009 10:12 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Watching the highlights again..

Cutler and Forte’s turnovers jesus! Forte has never been good on goal line. He’s a dancer. Thats on the coaching staff… where was the FB dive?joke

In all honesty I understand why Denver traded Jay. I get it now. He seems to lay eggs in big games. Not saying I want Orton back.

I've got this thing and it's fucking golden!

by SoulEater7 on Oct 19, 2009 9:38 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Really did he fumble at the one?

Did he false start at the 5 yardline on 4th and inches. We could scored 14 more points and put up 28, and at the least 24. Jay had 2 bad plays last night and played well on the road with constant pressure in his face..

Roachy love the run stuffin', but don't forget about the TE over the middle!!

by tfrabotta on Oct 19, 2009 9:45 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

its ok

if we only lose our primetime games, i’m fine with that haha. i don’t understand why we didn’t fake the goaline up the middle, and have forte run laterally around the pile? would have gotten us the TD. most of the falcons D was in that pile before forte even got there.

by Nih1lus on Oct 19, 2009 9:47 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

please

neither one of those plays was orton throwing to an open linebacker. relax. a great play by a safety and an overthrow. not a big deal.

by mike b on Oct 19, 2009 9:52 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

even though there aren't any posting right now

the trolls are watching… and this is feeding them

"I'm sorry Josh, I'm with Chicago now, you need to stop calling me" -JerBear50 as Jay Cutler
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by BearNecessities on Oct 19, 2009 12:54 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

For the most part...

I think the influx is over, at least for a while. It appears that a few members and mods stood up and said enough is enough.

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by smudgers on Oct 19, 2009 12:56 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

which would awesome

that was really hard to deal with after the game

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by BearNecessities on Oct 19, 2009 1:17 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Cutler did everything he could to keep them in the game.

It was the O-Line, Forte, and the Defense’s inability to stop some big plays that ****** us.

Lifelong Arizona Cardinals/Chicago Bears fan.

No band-wagoner fans allowed, pick a team and stick with em, throughout the good and the bad.

by JoeCB1991 on Oct 19, 2009 4:43 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Time for a deep breath..

Look everyone, we are 3-2 right now. It is not the end of the world and we lost to quality teams on the road. We should have won this game but we probably should have lost the Pitt game so we are about where we thought we’d be. We are still in good shape for the wildcard with the falcons, eagles, GB. Everyone else is pretty much out. So 4 teams in the hunt and we play 2 of them (at home). We have weaknesses but so do the others. I like our chances to get to the playoffs.

Roachy love the run stuffin', but don't forget about the TE over the middle!!

by tfrabotta on Oct 19, 2009 10:03 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

plus

Eagles lost to Raiders. The Raiders of all teams?

Eagles offense is hot and cold. and their D is not up to snuff. You’d be surprised what losing a D-coordinator can do to your team (RIP Johnson)

by Nih1lus on Oct 19, 2009 10:08 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

but were playing the eagles in primetime

jay cutler will throw 10 more interceptions. watch out!!!

by Puppet on Oct 19, 2009 4:12 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I agree with you...

The sky is not falling… No doom & gloom… However, is your goal just to get to the playoffs or win a ring? I just cannot see us accomplishing the latter with the current man in charge. I will continue to be the die hard fan I am. Root for them unconditionally.

Believe it or not, I am a glass half full person and am optimistic about every game and the season. I am, however, very doubtful that the current staff can get us there. But I’ll be excited and hopeful if by some miracle they do.

by Cards67 on Oct 19, 2009 10:12 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

One must first learn to walk

before we can run..the big game is the goal but realistically I do not see that in this years crystal ball. The oLine must improve before we can take the next step.

Roachy love the run stuffin', but don't forget about the TE over the middle!!

by tfrabotta on Oct 19, 2009 10:37 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I'm with you

but i worry that this game could possibly leave a lot of us talking about games we should have won.. .like last year. hope not though

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by BearNecessities on Oct 19, 2009 12:54 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Well hopefully it helps Lovie

and the rest bring these weaknesses to light and work out some solutions to the problems. Although we know how stubborn he is to change…

Roachy love the run stuffin', but don't forget about the TE over the middle!!

by tfrabotta on Oct 19, 2009 1:08 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

its the same team

in all reality. last year orton wasn’t the biggest problem, everything else was. just like this year.

by mike b on Oct 19, 2009 1:12 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

It really amazes me

that our Line is somehow worse this year

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by BearNecessities on Oct 19, 2009 1:17 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

So many inexusable mistakes... so friggin pissed off/

"You win because of the quarterback. We have to get that position stabilized. We're fixated on that." -- Jerry Angelo (12.30.2008)

Jerry Angelo trades for Jay Cutler! (4.2.2009)
.

by SackMan on Oct 19, 2009 10:14 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Not to mention our ST let - down at the end

What is it with this team playing in ATL at the very end of games? First our D collapsed last year, this year our usually – stellar ST. WTH?

by Waylon on Oct 19, 2009 10:43 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

The penalties hurt us like crazy.

I can’t believe how poorly coached and undisciplined the team was last night.

by GallopingGhost on Oct 19, 2009 12:23 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

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