NightLink: Will Beekman start?
by ChiFan13 on Oct 19, 2009 4:02 PM CDT
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Who knows if this will actually come to fruition, but it's interesting regardless.
In his presser today, Lovie had some interesting bits about Frank Omiyale and Josh Beekman:
Smith was then asked if inserting Josh Beekman in the starting line-up would constitute a major change, considering Beekman started all 16 games at left guard in 2008."Would it be a major change?" Smith asked. "It would be a change, I don't know about major. It would be a change. Again, we're evaluating things like we do each week, no more than that. Josh has done a good job for us."
I'm not quite sure how to interpret this example of LovieSpeak. Would you like to see Beekman starting? Or are you decently happy with Omiyale?
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Here's a thought
Put Beekman at Guard, and have Omiyale spell Pace at LT sometimes
"I'm sorry Josh, I'm with Chicago now, you need to stop calling me" -JerBear50 as Jay Cutler
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by BearNecessities on Oct 19, 2009 4:05 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Thats the thing.
I’m a little sick of the “draft/acquire a guy and change their position” trend we’ve seen. Sure sometimes it works but if you want a true, cohesive unit on the O-line we need guys that can gel in their positions because it is their natural position. Omiyale has been an LT all of his years in Carolina backing up Peppers and then we expect him to come in and play guard effectively for a new team. The problem is the only true guard we have is Garza. Omiyale, Shaffer, Pace, Louis and Williams are all tackles and Beekman is the only guy to play any of the guard positions when he is a natural center! This is a bit ridiculous if you ask me and a huge pressing need for this team. This is what gets me about everyone who freaks out about getting another WR, just look at our problems elsewhere on this team and I bet you’ll shut your mouths instantly.
by PolishSausage.Ditka.Bears. on Oct 19, 2009 5:23 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I thought
Beekman was a natural guard, and they are swinging him to be the replacement center?
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by BearNecessities on Oct 19, 2009 5:27 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I thought he was a center.
I guess I could be wrong though, I’ll look it up.
by PolishSausage.Ditka.Bears. on Oct 19, 2009 6:03 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Here's what I found on Beekman.
College:
Four-year letterwinner (2003-2006) at Boston College, started all 37 contests (34 at RG, 3 at C) in final 3 seasons and 39-of-50 games played overall during collegiate career… Became school’s first player to receive AP first-team All-America honors in five years after senior season… Also named Atlantic Coast Conference’s most valuable blocker during final year… Recipient of the 2006 Jacobs Blocking Trophy for the most valuable blocker in the ACC as a senior… Received Walter Camp Foundation second-team All-America honors and all-ACC first-team accolades as Eagles ranked 2nd in conference in total offense (354.2 ypg) and 3rd in points per game (26.0)… Honored with the Scanlan Trophy, the highest honor bestowed on a Boston College football player given to a senior who best exemplifies the ideals of scholar, athlete, gentleman and friend… Named to The Sporting News Big East All-Freshmen team… Majored in history.
NFL
Made the transition to the starting lineup in his second NFL season, starting all 16 games at LG… Has appeared in 17 games (16 starts), including his NFL debut at GB (10/7/07)… Saw action in all 8 preseason games (4 starts) since 2007, tallying 1 special teams fumble recovery.
2008 SEASON: Started all 16 games at LG, including his first career start at IND (9/7)… Member of the Bears offensive line that had five players start all 16 games… Helped pave the way for RB Matt Forte to break the Bears rookie rushing record (1,238 yards) and finish third in the NFL in scrimmage yards (1,715). GAMES PLAYED-STARTED 16-16
PREVIOUS SEASONS: 2007 – Appeared as a reserve offensive lineman at GB (10/7)… Saw action in all four preseason contests, registering 1 special teams fumble recovery… Inactive for Games 1-4 and 6-16.
The stat about him helping Forte pave the way for the rookie record should be every indication that he needs to be playing LG NOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Thank you chicagobears.com
by PolishSausage.Ditka.Bears. on Oct 19, 2009 6:09 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
The important thing here
is that he does need to be playing Guard, today
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by BearNecessities on Oct 19, 2009 6:29 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
How bout getting Matt Jones to play LG, hes soo versatile!
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by ANYTIME09 on Oct 19, 2009 6:47 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
dammit!
That fly is back.
by PolishSausage.Ditka.Bears. on Oct 19, 2009 6:54 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
That is not how you spell DAMNIT
Just so you know college boy!
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Alan: "Check his collar or something." - The Hangover
by ANYTIME09 on Oct 19, 2009 8:36 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Your my bottom bitch.
by PolishSausage.Ditka.Bears. on Oct 19, 2009 9:07 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Youre nor Your, college boy.
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by ANYTIME09 on Oct 20, 2009 3:19 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Couldn't agree more.
I’ve made this argument so often that I’m getting tired of making it. Draft/sign players for where they fit, not where you want them to fit.
I can’t blame Omiyale for playing this bad, but it doesn’t matter at this point. He IS playing this bad, and something needs to be done, immediately.
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by JerBear50 on Oct 20, 2009 2:57 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Beekman had a nice year last year, but he wasn’t a world beater, he did have a productive offseason and I would have liked to see him given a better shot at starting than he received… it looked like the money talked in this instance
by wiltfongjr on Oct 19, 2009 4:15 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
The most telling thing is that Lovie hasn’t come out and said that “We’re seeing things that we like about Frank Omiyale,” which is normal Loviespeak. Perhaps just wishful thinking on my part, but we all need a bit of hope now and then.
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by Spongie on Oct 19, 2009 4:21 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
"Omiyale is our starting Guard"
Get ready for it
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by BearNecessities on Oct 19, 2009 4:24 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
"frank is our Left Guard"
sounds more Lovie-ish
Camp ifuwanna, we hold you in our heart...
by ifuwannacrownem on Oct 19, 2009 4:48 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Oh, right i forgot
first names Rex, Kyle…
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by BearNecessities on Oct 19, 2009 4:49 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Lovie had his chance to say it.
With Lovie, things are so shielded and vague that it’s tough to read, but from what I’ve heard from Lovie whenever he doesn’t actively defend a player or say"______ is our _," it’s a knock on the the guy.
Metal sharpens metal.
And this guy right here understands and knows what leadership is all about: The coach, the hall of famer......... Dick Butka! George Ryan
by dakoose on Oct 19, 2009 4:50 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
here's some Loviespeak...
Jerry Angelo is our GM. Jay Cutler is our QB.
Notice I didn’t say Lovie is our head coach!
There are no stupid questions, but there are a LOT of inquisitive idiots.
by LostInSTL on Oct 19, 2009 6:56 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Only five weeks late
Well, it’s about time! It’s already cost the Bears dearly this season so far.
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by propheteer on Oct 19, 2009 4:40 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Is this a trick question??
When does the official “Frank Omiyale” nickname post go up?? Ditka and I had a few good ones last nite…
Roachy love the run stuffin', but don't forget about the TE over the middle!!
by tfrabotta on Oct 19, 2009 4:42 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
i missed those, any good ones?
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by BearNecessities on Oct 19, 2009 4:49 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Jeez! is an what it will take to put Beekman back in?
I mean you can’t spell offensive linemen. They are a cohesive unit. The only way you pull a player off that line is if they suck, or are injured, and I don’t wish injuries on any player.
But Omiyale is seriously pushing me, the only guy he’s pushed all year.
Camp ifuwanna, we hold you in our heart...
by ifuwannacrownem on Oct 19, 2009 4:53 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
LOL
But I don’t know why people think Beekman is any better.
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by Dane Noble on Oct 19, 2009 4:54 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Probably because he
was part of a unit last year that allowed for Forte to run with significantly more success than he has this year.
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by dakoose on Oct 19, 2009 5:12 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
So was John Friggin St. Clair
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by Dane Noble on Oct 19, 2009 5:15 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Unfortunately, Forte is running with no heart this year
so that can’t be used as an indicator.
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by ifuwannacrownem on Oct 19, 2009 5:18 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
Ruben Brown isn't 40 years old yet...
Maybe he could come back.
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by Dane Noble on Oct 19, 2009 5:20 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
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by ChiFan13 on Oct 19, 2009 7:21 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
He's a little hesitant,
but he was a hesitant type runner last year as well, just last year he hesitated and then hit the holes that were created, while this year there are no holes, period. Forte wasn’t a hit the hole type of guy last year either.
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by dakoose on Oct 19, 2009 5:28 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Forte was not hesitant last year
he was patient. this year he is hesitant, and doesn’t try to shake tackles. Forte had burst through the middle last year, because it showed. he’s not even trying.
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by ifuwannacrownem on Oct 19, 2009 5:34 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Forte's strength last year
was the same strength he had at Tulane, and the same strength he still possess now: shiftiness.
He’s not a burner, and not an ox… but he has insanely good vision, and is terrific at finding seams to shift into. The difference this season, in my opinion, is the seams just aren’t there this year.
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by Dane Noble on Oct 19, 2009 5:36 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Exactly what I'm trying to say.
Metal sharpens metal.
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by dakoose on Oct 19, 2009 5:38 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Well, his strength is his weakness.
because if the seams aren’t there, then he’s not doing anything. He’s not improvising, he’s not even trying to get physical with the defenders.
If he’s not trying to adjust, then he’s not trying at all.
Last night, Garrett Wolfe, who as early as this offseason, was getting bashed on this blog, with people saying he could get “knocked down by a light breeze” was adjusting by shaking off initial defenders and getting his head down and pushing through for more yardage.
Devin Hester, who was not a “Jumpball” receivers has adjusted so far this season to all of Cutlers high throws. remember his TD in Seattle?
I disagree that Forte has “insanely good vision”. No matter how bad the line is, 3.4 yards per carry and three fumbles in 5 games does not translate into great vision.
If all forte has is his “shiftiness” then he’s about as useful as Mark Anderson and his one spin move.
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by ifuwannacrownem on Oct 19, 2009 6:14 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
You can argue about his attributes
until you are blue in the face. The same thing I saw from him at Tulane (a couple games in person, and several on the tv) is the same thing he showed last year.
There are only a couple of RBs in the league who can match his vision and shiftiness. Now, I won’t argue with you about him not trying, because that is not something that is easily known.
But, combine the above-mentioned talents, and pair it with decent speed, good pass receiving skills, and great pass blocking, and I would argue that he is much more multi-layered than Anderson (which is apples to oranges btw).
It all starts in the trenches… that is why I think Forte is having trouble this year. And yes, i do agree that Wolfe is playing hard.
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by Dane Noble on Oct 19, 2009 6:23 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
What I want to know is when will it sink in with Forte.
Go back when Benson was starter in 2007. Even though the line was horrendous and beat up, Benson himself was particularly bad. Then it was apparent something clicked when they went up to seattle.
He ran harder, he waited for cut routs, and he displayed speed nobody knew he had. it carried into the next game against Denver, which was his last game as a Bear(ironically, Cutler’s first game in soldier field). from that point, Benson has been running hard since.
I just think it hasn’t clicked with forte yet.
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by ifuwannacrownem on Oct 19, 2009 6:56 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
So now we are supposed to change our minds on Wolfe
because he had one run due to the falcons deciding to use the Kevin Payne method of tackling??
Roachy love the run stuffin', but don't forget about the TE over the middle!!
by tfrabotta on Oct 19, 2009 6:38 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
+1...
Wolfe is not the answer. Either he or AP needs to make room for a big, angry RB for short yardage situations. Further, why not use spread formations, counter traps, and sweeps to take advantage of the skills that Forte does have. Maybe running to the right with Omiyale pulling might be a better option? He’s is terrible man on man, but he is good at blocking in space. I cannot believe Turner et al cannot see this. Why do they persist in 2 and 3 TE sets. It simply bunches up the offense and puts them in the position where they are least likely to succeed! IMO, Omiyale needs to sit and Beekman needs to start immediately.
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by LostInSTL on Oct 19, 2009 7:01 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
My opinion of Wolfe grew a lot higher last night.
Seeing him knock the piss out of Mike Peterson on a blitz was definitely a highlight for me.
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by JerBear50 on Oct 20, 2009 3:10 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
wake up, man!
he’s been doing that all season. get your head out of your ass. you’d be a fool not to notice he’s a way hungrier player this year.
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by ifuwannacrownem on Oct 20, 2009 8:55 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think you should call up B&B
with a Fire&Passion argument. Was he not trying two weeks back against Detroit? Don’t confuse lack of success for lack of effort.
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by dakoose on Oct 19, 2009 5:39 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
because he's a natural guard
and he’s able to match up better against Smaller D-linemen. those smaller quicker linemen have been giving Pace problems all year, but now it seems the same with Omiyale.
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by ifuwannacrownem on Oct 19, 2009 5:16 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I wonder what John Tait is up to
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by Dane Noble on Oct 19, 2009 5:18 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Who knows. He's a mormon. Never a normal 24 hours with a mormon.
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by ifuwannacrownem on Oct 19, 2009 5:20 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Stop he was
this years Olin Kreutz last year…all done
Roachy love the run stuffin', but don't forget about the TE over the middle!!
by tfrabotta on Oct 19, 2009 6:39 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
maybe not better...
but could he be any worse, really?!?
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by smudgers on Oct 19, 2009 5:27 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Don't know that he is
but I see no reason why we shouldn’t find out. It accomplishes two things. It may give us an immediate improvement on the line, helping the running game and increasing Jay’s life span. It also tells us whether he has a legitimate chance to replace Kreutz. If he’s not able to handle blocking assignments as a guard, moving him to center is probably not a good idea.
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by JerBear50 on Oct 20, 2009 3:07 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Bring on the BeekMan!
It was worth taking a shot on Omiyale to see if he could provide an upgrade at Guard. By now we (i.e. Lovie) should realize that Omiyale is not a Guard. Time to end the experiment!
Beekman has been decent when given the chance to play. Plus, now he has some experience, and he doesn’t have St. Clair next to him. Omiyale has been completely unexceptable at Guard. Time to start Beekman.
In the offseason we need to find a solid run-blocking Guard, and have Beekman slide over to take Olin’s place at Center.
by MakeHalasProud on Oct 19, 2009 4:55 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Not sure this will fix anything
but sure, why not? Beekman deserves the shot. I’m more worried about Pace. He did an alright job against John Abraham, who is admittedly an excellent pass rusher. But the two penalties on the last drive killed us. And shouldnt a guy like Pace be getting more of a push up front on those goal line runs? The whole left side of the line — Pace and Omiyale — was just overrun.
by Orval Overall on Oct 19, 2009 4:59 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Look-
what else can Omiyale do to lose his job?
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by MPG on Oct 19, 2009 5:06 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Hate to admit it
but Kruetz was just as bad as Omiyale. I’m starting to wonder that if we do replace Omiyale with Beeks, if will Kruetz play better
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by ifuwannacrownem on Oct 19, 2009 5:27 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Sticking Beekman back in there
Is the right thing to do at this point of the season. The Omiyale experiment has failed miserably. I never really understood why they paid the guy as much as they did in the first place. He was basically a career back-up in Carolina. Right now they feel obligated to play him because he’s making a lot more money than Beekman.
In any event, Beekman was an adequate run-blocker last year. That may have been one thing that helped Fortes’ numbers. St. Clair was just basically a temporary stop-gap. He gave up 9 1/2 sacks last year, and the Bears were right to let him go. Pace on the other hand, only gave up 2 sacks in 14 games for the Rams. Pass-blocking is probably Pace’s strength, though.
This off-season, the team needs to stop playing games, and try to sign the best free-agent lineman available on the market. The line is just too important to the entire offense.
by JimmyMack on Oct 19, 2009 5:28 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
This line is either an injury away from total collapse or significant improvement
“This off-season, the team needs to stop playing games, and try to sign the best free-agent lineman available on the market. The line is just too important to the entire offense.”
Yes. Super yes. This is killing us and the finest runner/passer we have had for some time/ever. Beekman was on an steady upward path but was already (I’m guessing) slated as Kreutz’s replacement so they brought in Omiyale. Chemistry and “gelling” is so overrated when the players suck or are out position. This year seems like a rebuilding year to me with Cutler partly hiding this fact with some great passing.
by Sound_Automatic on Oct 19, 2009 7:14 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Cutler
is literally keeping this team afloat
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by BearNecessities on Oct 19, 2009 7:19 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Beekman
It’s time to give Beekman a shot at LG.
"Chance favors the prepared mind." - Pasteur
by Maelvampyre on Oct 19, 2009 9:23 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
to be fair - omiyale is a tackle
its clearly not working that well for him at guard, but that’s because there is a big difference between a guard and a tackle. he’s a huge guy, so i do think it was worth giving him a shot to make the adjustment, but its clearly not working. i’d switch in beekman next week and give him a few weeks. also, to preserve pace (who hasn’t played bad overall), get him some breaks in the game, and have omiyale and williams play our tackles during those plays. it’ll keep pace fresher, get omiyale back to his natural position, and allow williams to get some real experience at LT, which is where he’ll probably be full time next year.
by guy incognito on Oct 19, 2009 9:32 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
The future is now for this o-line
Time to get people into their natural positions and accept that they can’t play worse than this … any quality guards FAs next year?
by Sound_Automatic on Oct 19, 2009 11:54 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Frank Ole'
has gotta go to the bench… I’m fine with him being a back up tackle, depth is good.
Bring in Beeks to start immediately… Decide now what Lance Louis’ future position is on this line and get him ready for next year or maybe sooner.
by rdent4hof on Oct 20, 2009 10:11 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Here Is The Deal
Somebody on the Offensive Line is not pulling their weight,(no pun intended). With that said, Frank Omiyale at times looked so lazy Sunday Night it made me sick to my stomach. I don’t have the luxury of looking at film like the Bears coaches do. They have 5 games to look at to determine the weakest link. I like Orlando ’ Pancake’ Pace and 1 critical false start mistake does not change that opinion. I think the Bears may need to look at Williams as well. This line is not opening up holes for Forte. Maybe we could start Beekman and lure John Tate out of retirement.
by Gesiakob on Oct 20, 2009 11:45 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I liked John Tait too, class act
Not sure about the coming out of retirement thing lol but i do agree that Beekman needs to start now. We can’t afford any more crap DMS Syndrome starters. Frank O is a tackle, the Bears have to stop plugging people in crazy positions ansd expect excellence cause 9 times out of 10 it isn’t gonna happen. Hester has been one of the few exceptions, not the rule..and look how long that took him.
by Chitownproduct on Oct 21, 2009 2:53 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
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