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The Bears Den - 10/2/09

....where, for the love of everything that is holy, we hope the IOC picks Rio for the 2016 Olympics.

In The Den

670 The Score

Ron Turner and Jay Cutler are developing trust. 

ChicagoBears.com

Rod Marinelli is focusing on the Bears, not the Lions. Gee, sure hope so. 

Chicago Sun-Times

The Bears aren't expecting the Lions to be easy prey.

Jay Cutler is happy to wear pink for Greg Olsen's mother. 

Desmond Clark is rapidly recovering from his broken rib.

Chicago Tribune

Michael Gaines: "I wouldn't wish that on my worst enemy"

Ron Turner finally admits a mistake! Hooray!

Steve Rosenbloom: Are the Bears lucky or good?

More after the jump.... 

Star-divide

Rod Marinelli is keeping his emotions in check. 

Daily Herald

The Bears' young WR's are growing up fast in the NFL.

Rod Marinelli learned a lot from the 0-16 season. 

ESPN Chicago

Michael Gaines was introduced to the Jim Schwartz era prior to his dismissal at the Lions. 

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Go Rio!

I've got this thing and it's fucking golden!

by SoulEater7 on Oct 2, 2009 12:25 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Has Gaines

even suited up yet?

"I'm sorry Josh, I'm with Chicago now, you need to stop calling me" -JerBear50 as Jay Cutler

by BearNecessities on Oct 2, 2009 12:27 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Gaines is a good guy

Very funny, he was really nice at training camp. Signed tons of autographs and was real nice to everyone.

Not an Olympics fan? Won’t the Bears possibly get a new stadium if Chicago gets the games? I just hope it isn’t a dome or a retractable roof and it’s still on the lake, if that happens.

by GallopingGhost on Oct 2, 2009 12:30 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

yeah right.

They just got a new stadium. They are building an inflatable stadium or something.

I've got this thing and it's fucking golden!

by SoulEater7 on Oct 2, 2009 1:53 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

if the park district didnt suck

No one would want a new stadium. Just put in some f’n turf grass as a Sweetness statue. If the Bears weren’t at Soldier Field what would the Park District do with it? Can’t even have a Super Bowl in the city. Get the ’16 olympics and the ’16 superbowl. The Chicago Jaguars(Raiders) can use it as their Stadium.

by Ryan21 on Oct 2, 2009 8:24 AM CDT via mobile up reply actions   0 recs

SB in new olympic stadium would be a nice

Pluck the Yew to the Park District.

by Ryan21 on Oct 2, 2009 8:28 AM CDT via mobile up reply actions   0 recs

Oh thank goodness
.where, for the love of everything that is holy, we hope the IOC picks Rio for the 2016 Olympics.

I’d started to think I was alone in this feeling.

Can that Morrisey picture be the new Bears Den header every day? Because its awesome. And true. :-P

Jerry’s been so distant lately and Lovie barely calls.- Just Dave

by Allie on Oct 2, 2009 3:19 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

I think you two are right

It needs a permanent place. I’ll figure something out :)

I'M A MAN! I'M 23!

by ChiFan13 on Oct 2, 2009 9:34 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

LOL Awesome pic...

I agree with Allie. That needs some kind of permanent place. Or at least semi-permanent.

Ron Turner and Jay Cutler are developing trust.

Yes, Jay trusts that Turner will continue to suck, and Turner trusts that Cutler will bail him out and save his job.

"The time has come to get deeply into Football. It is the only thing we have left that ain't fixed." - HST

by JerBear50 on Oct 2, 2009 3:36 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Also

If there are other Morrissey posters out there, let me know. I’m havin trouble finding any.

I'M A MAN! I'M 23!

by ChiFan13 on Oct 2, 2009 9:48 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

that was the only one i found

i’m shocked that there was really nothing under the google titles of
Die Rick Morrissey
Rick Morrissey sucks

and there is no Morrissey FaceBook hate group… whats up with that

"I'm sorry Josh, I'm with Chicago now, you need to stop calling me" -JerBear50 as Jay Cutler

by BearNecessities on Oct 2, 2009 12:10 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Maybe we need to create one

The WCG Facebook group is, essentially, an anti-Morrissey group :)

I'M A MAN! I'M 23!

by ChiFan13 on Oct 2, 2009 12:17 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I'm all for it

i notice on the top right area of the web page i have a big blank white spot… wonder if we could fit that picture right there… maybe it’s just blocked at work or something though.

"I'm sorry Josh, I'm with Chicago now, you need to stop calling me" -JerBear50 as Jay Cutler

by BearNecessities on Oct 2, 2009 12:26 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I could put the picture in the group

but I’m fairly sure that WCG wouldn’t be too happy with me changing the group picture :)

I'M A MAN! I'M 23!

by ChiFan13 on Oct 2, 2009 12:47 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

After all his alarmist BS throwing Cutler under the bus

he came out with a piece explaining why Jim Hendry deserves to keep his job. God I hate him.

"The time has come to get deeply into Football. It is the only thing we have left that ain't fixed." - HST

by JerBear50 on Oct 3, 2009 12:55 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

have you seen the crtique of that?

maybe he should be fired, maybe he shouldnt? i have never felt an emotion towards a writer before… but i know i loathe morrissey

"I'm sorry Josh, I'm with Chicago now, you need to stop calling me" -JerBear50 as Jay Cutler

by BearNecessities on Oct 3, 2009 3:08 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I hope this is Turner's last year & big changes are made to avoid another collapse

I think Cutler is developing a synergy with Hester, Knox & Olsen. Regardless of the terrible play calling on Turner’s part. Which unfortunately is nothing new. I really wonder what it takes to get fired sometimes. I figured with the amount of blown leads last years & finishing 9-7 should have led to firings. It was enough for the Bucs to get a new head coach (fine thats working out poorly). I don’t get what it takes. While I’m happy with the wins the last two weeks its clear the secondary still sucks. Tillman makes one or two good plays a game & then undermines himself by making 25 bloopers of the week; often standing there looking clueless.

Who is to blame? Lovey! This has been going for a while with his coveted (aka crappy) cover 2 bad play. I was always under the impression if something doesn’t work you fix it. And if he won’t (seeing he runs the Defense = into the ground) its time for him to be fired. Its really overdue to send him & Turner packing. Make Marinelli the Defensive coordinator, hire a respectable Offensive coordinator & worst case Gruden or Shanahan. Either of which is far more qualified than Lovey & actually uses this innovative thing called discipline. And of course both have won.

The obvious is with the latter coach as he drafted Cutler, can control him & won’t stand for his BS. I sincerely doubt that Marinelli would continue the overuse of the cover 2 crap & probably would start cutting bad corners. I mean changes need to be made. Every single time an opposing offense has the ball, the front & middle parts of the defense are being forced to carry the whole defense. Its like a heart attack watching Tillman, Vasher & Bowman attempt to make tackles. UGH!

by Kayfabian Magic on Oct 2, 2009 1:08 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Gruden had been on his way out for awhile.

I’d love to see Turner shown the door, but I don’t think Gruden would be a good replacement. His playbook is ridiculously complicated, and he was not liked by much of anyone in the organization. Not to mention, I think he’s waiting for a HC job. Especially since he’s getting paid huge money by Tampa for the next three years if he doesn’t coach.
   Marinelli is a Kiffin disciple, so the chances of him abandoning the Tampa 2 are slim.

"The time has come to get deeply into Football. It is the only thing we have left that ain't fixed." - HST

by JerBear50 on Oct 3, 2009 12:49 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

on top of that

there is nothing wrong with the Tampa-2/Cover-2 Defense. it’s our personnel not executing.

"I'm sorry Josh, I'm with Chicago now, you need to stop calling me" -JerBear50 as Jay Cutler

by BearNecessities on Oct 3, 2009 3:10 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Exactly

Everyone likes to trash it, but the fact is every defense has holes in it that can be exploited. The difference between it working or not is a) the quality of players and b) the coaches ability to mix things up to keep it from being too obvious. Right now, we definitely don’t have the former.

"The time has come to get deeply into Football. It is the only thing we have left that ain't fixed." - HST

by JerBear50 on Oct 6, 2009 3:40 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I think I read something in the den

that said Ron Turner admitted he made a mistake with the GW call on 3rd and 1 but I couldn’t have read that right. Maybe I just need to call it a day.

You can't believe everything you read on the internet, that's how World War One got started.

by Ditkavsworld on Oct 2, 2009 7:41 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

That was on Biggs' twitter I believe...

Be nice. Flag comments that you think are offensive. Use the "reply" button. Drink plenty of water. Compliment others. Rec (wreck) comments and posts you like. Don't call people names. If you don't like someone's comment, attack the comment and not the commentor. Learn the difference in your/you're, then/than, to/too. Exercise. Relax. Stretch often. Find good in the world.

Just because it can be done on Madden NFL does not automatically make it a viable option in real life.

by Dane Noble on Oct 2, 2009 8:28 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Uhhhh....

Steve Rosenbloom: Are the Bears lucky or good?
This kind of thing is driving me crazier by the day! We have a new QB, extremely new WR corp, new and revamped O-line, plus an extremely young secondary and LBing corp missing our Defensive cornerstone. AND the Bears have beaten the defending World Champs! This team has tremendous heart! And they’ll continue to improve. Each practice and game, these guys are continuing to gel. And the running game will only get better as they start stretching the field more and more!

Getcha Beernuts Ready!

by Fly1965 on Oct 2, 2009 7:47 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Sorry

I’m also extremely inexperienced when it comes to the back quote thing. :(

Getcha Beernuts Ready!

by Fly1965 on Oct 2, 2009 7:48 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

What do you mean Jay?!?
Cutler was asked which sport he would watch. (for the 2016 Olympics)

“I don’t know. I don’t even know if I’ll be here for that,” he said.

Please tell me you’re not planning on leaving us? [tearing up] Jay, we love you. We really love you. Please, don’t go. [tears pouring now] Whatever we did, we’re sorry. We’re so, so sorry! We can fix it… Yes, we can make it right. No. [screaming in pain now] NO, PLEASE NO JAY, DON’T GOOOOOOO! JAAAAYYYY!

Figured I’d go ahead and put the first media spin on his comment :)

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by smudgers on Oct 2, 2009 7:58 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Maybe he thinks

JA will trade him for a new washer and dryer.

You can't believe everything you read on the internet, that's how World War One got started.

by Ditkavsworld on Oct 2, 2009 8:06 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Having been born and raised in Chicago and experienced mayors from the original Daley

through Bilandic, Byrne, Washington, Sawyer, and the new Richie, I can tell you that if we get the 2016 Olympics it will promise to be the biggest “F-Up” ever. Richie Daley is the most corrupt and self centered politician in the country and is looking at this as his legacy. Nothing in Chicago can ever get done the right way because of payoffs, patronage, special interests, and just plain greed. Not only will we pay through the nose, but the logistical nightmare will be monumental. Hell, as it is you can’t get to the airport without sitting in construction traffic for hours no matter what direction you come from, going downtown from the suburbs is a nightmare no matter what the day or time, and trying to find parking once you’re down there is absolutely ridiculous (not to mention that it will cost between $25 & $50 whether you’re there for an hour or overnight).

I hope that Obama pukes on someone at the meetings in Copenhagen and pisses them off enough where they give it to Rio. Just the fact that we brought Oprah as part of the delegation should be enough to turn Chicago down.

by BearFan611 on Oct 2, 2009 8:28 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

its only 2 1/2 weeks

Why not get some work for all of the unemployed. Construction is one of the hardest hit by the recession. Chicago will still be corrupt with or without the Olympics. Better to be corrupt and help create jobs than just bein corrupt. As long as the jobs are done by legal u.s. citizens.

by Ryan21 on Oct 2, 2009 9:10 AM CDT via mobile up reply actions   0 recs

No way

That’s the short-term thinking that will inevitably get Chicago into a myriad of problems. Here’s an excellent link that shows the problem with your argument.

Usually, if it was any other US city, I wouldn’t be this vocal against them hosting the Olympics. But both of my parents grew up there. I still have family there. The city is near and dear to my heart, which is why I don’t want to see them tank it after the Olympics. Here’s some other reasons why the Olympics are bad for Chi-town:

1) Daley is corrupt. He can’t even build a damn street without giving someone a little something extra. What’s he going to do when the cash piles are much larger?

2) Olympics = no real economic gain. That article I linked you shows that it’s a short-turn boom, long-term bust. Dan Bernstein was talking yesterday and brought up a good point: If we get these Olympics – once it’s over, are people going to say, “Hey, we’re bored. Let’s go to Northerly Island and get some kayaking in!”? I highly highly doubt it.

3) More eyesores for a city who doesn’t need them. We already have a field (Soldier Field) that looks like it was invaded by some drunk martians who didn’t quite know how to fly. The Park District can’t even take care of the turf! How the hell is Chicago going to manage an entire Olympics?

4) Chicago’s already a world-class city – the Olympics don’t necessarily prove that. People are already more than willing to travel to one of the best cities in the world without the Olympics. And, remember, you or I probably won’t be able to attend the Olympics – tickets for that will be a little over what we can get.

I'M A MAN! I'M 23!

by ChiFan13 on Oct 2, 2009 9:24 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

it aint that bad

I’ve never been to the old one but I’ve been to the spaceship 5 or 6 times and you can see the field good from the 400s where we usually sit. Hope to go again this year.

by Ryan21 on Oct 2, 2009 10:48 AM CDT via mobile up reply actions   0 recs

Not saying that there's not a good view

I’ll be in the 400’s during the Vikings – Bears game at Soldier Field.

What I’m saying is that from the outside, it’s really, really ugly. It’s kind of an eyesore.

I'M A MAN! I'M 23!

by ChiFan13 on Oct 2, 2009 10:53 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Great stadium

It may look bad on the outside, but the inside is all that matters. There’s not really a bad seat in the house, and it very intimate for a NFL field (not much space between stands and playing surface).

"Repetition is only good when you've been winning." - Valet

by propheteer on Oct 2, 2009 10:53 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yea seriously

I know when I go see the Bears I really care about how the stadium looks along with my hair. Geez come on its football save the looks for the women.

Phil: " Whose baby is that?
Alan: "Check his collar or something." - The Hangover

by ANYTIME09 on Oct 2, 2009 11:08 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Exactly

With that said, if I was planning the remodeling of Soldier’s Field I probably would’ve started from scratch, and then created new columns to honor the old stadium.

"Repetition is only good when you've been winning." - Valet

by propheteer on Oct 2, 2009 12:17 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

its easy to hate on it ,but

When you have generations of construcion workers and masons in your family it hard to not want the olympics. I can less about the games but lots of construction means lots of work for a lot of families who are on very hard times even if its only for 7 years. That money being spent goes to the people too. I think it will help more than hurt. Maybe by just a little but a little is better than nothing. It might be short term but 7 years is enough to put your kid thru college.

by Ryan21 on Oct 2, 2009 10:10 AM CDT via mobile up reply actions   0 recs

I agree with what you're saying

but, unfortunately, that’s not going to happen. Chicago just got eliminated.

I'M A MAN! I'M 23!

by ChiFan13 on Oct 2, 2009 10:28 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

lol

the first city eliminated. Wonder how many people had money on it in vegas?

by Virto on Oct 2, 2009 10:53 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Oddsmakers in England

had Chicago winning. Just goes to show that the supposed front runners aren’t necessarily that.

I'M A MAN! I'M 23!

by ChiFan13 on Oct 2, 2009 10:58 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Im glad youre soo happy livin in Atlanta and all.

Phil: " Whose baby is that?
Alan: "Check his collar or something." - The Hangover

by ANYTIME09 on Oct 2, 2009 11:09 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Everyone that was against the Olympics on here better not be all for having a Super Bowl here it would cost too much money for you people.

And I know half you will say, they will never have it here cause its too cold. But if you noticed Kansas City is getting a Super Bowl soon, go and check out the weather in January-February there.

Theyve said that they might start going to more cold weathered stadiums in the future, and if it has a chance to come to Chicago, I dont want to hear any of you saying you want it here that were against the Olympics. God forbid you pay a little more for parking.

Phil: " Whose baby is that?
Alan: "Check his collar or something." - The Hangover

by ANYTIME09 on Oct 2, 2009 11:12 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Give me three logical reasons why the Olympics

would have been a great thing for Chicago.

I'M A MAN! I'M 23!

by ChiFan13 on Oct 2, 2009 11:16 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Im not even going to get into a debate about why I wanted it, the fact is I wanted it in MY hometown and it didnt happen.

Just another disappointment to add to the list of disappointments that the greatest sports city in the WORLD has endured. Whatever going to the Bears game this Sunday is going to cheer me up (it freakin better)

Moving On from this pipe dream.

Phil: " Whose baby is that?
Alan: "Check his collar or something." - The Hangover

by ANYTIME09 on Oct 2, 2009 11:20 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

And that's fine that it's your hometown

Doesn’t mean that I can’t have an opinion on the city that I love.

And yes, if the Bears don’t win on Sunday, we’re going to need therapy.

I'M A MAN! I'M 23!

by ChiFan13 on Oct 2, 2009 11:23 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I didnt say you couldnt, but you dont live here, so it hits home a little more for me.

Im having a bad day now, you know how I get when Im having a bad day, sorry, didnt mean to come off like you couldnt speak.

Bear Down Chicago Bears

Phil: " Whose baby is that?
Alan: "Check his collar or something." - The Hangover

by ANYTIME09 on Oct 2, 2009 11:26 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I wanted it in Chicago too

I don’t live there currently, but i’m seriously dissapointed

"I'm sorry Josh, I'm with Chicago now, you need to stop calling me" -JerBear50 as Jay Cutler

by BearNecessities on Oct 2, 2009 12:13 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

ughhh

there goes my 2012 through 2013 annual bonus..would have been a home run with the Olympics here..

by tfrabotta on Oct 2, 2009 1:08 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

That's ok, Chicago can still try for the Special Olympics.

You’ve already got Morrisey, Kaplan, and Wittenmeyer as competitors. And being that close to Wisconsin, you’ve got an endless talent pool to choose from.

"The time has come to get deeply into Football. It is the only thing we have left that ain't fixed." - HST

by JerBear50 on Oct 3, 2009 1:07 AM CDT up reply actions   1 recs

disregard no olymics

But I would still like another football team in our city. That would be cool.

by Ryan21 on Oct 2, 2009 10:29 AM CDT via mobile up reply actions   0 recs

Here's a pretty good article...

…about Forte and his fantasy expectations for the young season. I don’t get into fantasy football but I like this site for injury info.

http://www.rotoworld.com/content/features/column.aspx?sport=NFL&columnid=57&articleid=33792&pg=1

Getcha Beernuts Ready!

by Fly1965 on Oct 2, 2009 9:11 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Just read this last night

I was going to bench him, but reading this made me change my mind; I just hope he gets it going and is fortunate enough to score his first TD.

"Repetition is only good when you've been winning." - Valet

by propheteer on Oct 2, 2009 10:37 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Did anyone see?

Espn’s best plays in the NFL for September? They showed three Bear plays, but were all negative ones. Hester’s TD, or Knox’s against Seattle not worthy enough? Absolutely rediculous. Someone on a different thread said the Bears are not less respected than some other teams. I beg to differ.

Clips shown:

Cutler’s game deciding INT to Harris.
Big hit on Olsen.
Jennings game-winning TD catch.

"Repetition is only good when you've been winning." - Valet

by propheteer on Oct 2, 2009 10:59 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

I didn't see it

But that’s typical espn… I’ll listen to their radio shows and that’s about it… as far as sportscenter and NFL live go, I almost never watch them anymore (and happier for it). I do watch College Football Live now and then, but it’s nothing special.

NFLN shows have become my norms… Total access, NFC & AFC Playbook and Around the League are excellent shows imo. If NFLN would develop some College FB programming I’d probably never watch espn.

Well maybe never is a little strong. I’ll watch games and College BB analysis… other than that… no espn for me.

by rdent4hof on Oct 2, 2009 11:15 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

NFLN

The problem with them is their schedule; everytime I look for news or a replay it’s the opposite of what I want. Their analysis is leaps and bounds better than the clowns on Espn. Speaking of clowns- that twit Schlereth is picking the Lions to upset the Bears this weekend. He couldn’t provide any reason why they would, only that they finally have some momentum on their side. Wow, that’s some great insight there!

"Repetition is only good when you've been winning." - Valet

by propheteer on Oct 2, 2009 12:15 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Schlereth sucks!

 His opinions are always personal, rarely logical and never analytical.

Example: When M. Vick was getting out of the pen., Schlereth was asked where he thought Vick would end up… His answer, nowhere. Then when asked why he thought that way, Schlereth answered: Well because if I owned a team, I wouldn’t want him anywhere near my organization. WOW! Thanks for the (blinders are on) insight meat head.

For your sanity, I hope the NFLN’s schedule becomes more favorable for you.

by rdent4hof on Oct 2, 2009 1:21 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Hell be at Wrigley this weekend to see his son play

Im thinking about going there and kicking his biast ass. And booing his son too, even if he isnt playing!

Phil: " Whose baby is that?
Alan: "Check his collar or something." - The Hangover

by ANYTIME09 on Oct 2, 2009 1:38 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I hope his son does pitch...

And gets rocked….

“Don’t worry, Rick…there are a lot of parks that wouldn’t be a home run in”

“Name one”

“Yosemite!”

Unreasonable people make life difficult...

by WisBearsFan34 on Oct 2, 2009 2:43 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Schlereth is a Broncos Homer!!!

And hates anything that in anyway slights or has a rivalry with the Broncos organization.

That’s why he really has nothing good to say about the Bears(Cutler), Raiders, Chiefs, and Chargers

Unreasonable people make life difficult...

by WisBearsFan34 on Oct 2, 2009 2:47 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

You forgot

Redskins homer as well… Schlereth’s the worst.

by rdent4hof on Oct 3, 2009 9:00 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

No one who's not connected gets hired the city of Chicago

“Why not get some work for all of the unemployed,,,”

It doesn’t work that way, it’s never worked that way, and by the looks of things, it will never work that way here. NO ONE who works in construction, waste management, airport management, etc. under contract to the City gets hired unless they’re politically – connected. Period. The stimulus money was already given completely over to the Mayor for him to dole out as political favors to his cronies – and the Olympic construction would have played out exactly along the same lines. There would have been no new hires, just more of the same cast of corrupt firms that have done business with the city for generations. Expecting anything else just displays an acute ignorance about this city and the way it’s operated over the past 50 years.

by Waylon on Oct 2, 2009 3:33 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Welcome to Chicago

"I'm sorry Josh, I'm with Chicago now, you need to stop calling me" -JerBear50 as Jay Cutler

by BearNecessities on Oct 2, 2009 3:38 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

indeed

i see ryan’s point and even though i am in the intermodal crane industry (which would obviously benefit from all the construction going on) i am fine with no olympics here. only bonus i would have gotten out of it would be renting my living space for 3 weeks to some out of towner type people.

by reefermadness3 on Oct 2, 2009 4:58 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

i worked construction in the city

We weren’t connected. Maybe to be an employee of the city you have to be connected but construction is done by usually by union workers in the city. Masons,laborers,electricians,pipefitter,etc. Still have problems with illeagals but that’s everywhere. The city is about the only place where the union has any power.

by Ryan21 on Oct 3, 2009 12:11 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions   0 recs

Further proof that analyst networks hate the Bears

For fantasy sit/start, they listed Benson as start, with the symbol of team played for: THE CHICAGO BEARS! – wow… there’s only 32 teams guys, how hard is it

"I'm sorry Josh, I'm with Chicago now, you need to stop calling me" -JerBear50 as Jay Cutler

by BearNecessities on Oct 3, 2009 3:15 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

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