The Bears Den - 10/20/09
by ChiFan13 on Oct 20, 2009 12:00 AM CDT
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....where we're starting a collection for a new OL.
670 The Score
Laurence Holmes muses on the loss to Atlanta.
ChicagoBears.com
The tight ends shone in a disappointing loss.
The turnovers in the red zone burned the Bears. Thanks, Larry.
The Bears self-destructed in a frustrating loss. Thanks, Larry.
Gaines Adams is excited to suit up for the Bears. Thanks, Larry.
Chicago Sun-Times
Brad Biggs' rapid reaction to the loss.
There's no margin for the Bears to perform that badly and expect to win.
More after the jump....
Neil Hayes isn't too pleased about the game.
Jay Cutler should avoid primetime games. Great analysis.
Chicago Tribune
Alex Brown is focusing on his job, not Gaines Adam.
Jerry Angelo said that Adewale Ogunleye is still part of the Bears' future.
Steve Rosenbloom: The Bears are experts at choking.
Daily Herald
The Bears really did their best to lose the game.
Barry Rozner talks about getting off the bus running.
Cutler during primetime games = bad.
Bob LeGere is pretty angry about the running game.
Mike Imrem: It's unlikely that the Bears can tutor Jay Cutler.
ESPN Chicago
The Bears have a definite blueprint for defeat.
The OL during the Falcons game = bad.
The running game during the Falcons game = bad.
Jerry Angelo talks about his new toy (Gaines Adams).
Pisa Tinoisamoa got his knee examined yesterday.
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depression.
KO is 6-0… life is a funny thing. Even when the Bears get it right they get it wrong. So far..
I think what pisses me off the most about yesterdays loss is the fact that they looked really good during the first quarter and then completely shot themselves in the foot as a whole team. They always did something to keep Atlanta in the game. It was just like the Green Bay game. .. Atlanta kept punting and the Bears just couldn’t take advantage. there was no sense of urgency.
I think the biggest mistake was when Briggs didn’t jump on the ball. After that it was like Atlanta was saved. Had Briggs just fallen on the ball that would have changed the game and they could have gone up 14-0 or 10-0. I know it seems like petty to blame Briggs but it’s the little things like that that just piss me off. He tried to take off and score. After that the mental mistakes started to poor in.
I've got this thing and it's fucking golden!
Try living in Denver
Ugh….
I think the biggest mistake was when Briggs didn’t jump on the ball.
That was pretty big, but the offensive line probably would’ve screwed it up anyways. Briggs was thinking I need to take this to the house in order for us to score.
"Repetition is only good when you've been winning." - Valet
I disagree
How many times has Lance successfully grabbed a ball off the ground and run with it? How many yards has he picked up doing so? How many TDs has he scored in those situations?
The answer to all of those questions is “a ton”
If it had been Anthony Adams or Tommie Harris trying to pick up the ball and run with it, I would agree with. But Lance Briggs has done it enough that I give hima pass on this one.
I think we're in agreement here
Briggs did the right thing when he tried to pick it up and score. Usually, he has good ball skills and converts on that play.
"Repetition is only good when you've been winning." - Valet
on the briggs recovery(or lack thereof)
was that not like last year against the Falcons? when Tommie Fumbled the ball and gave it back to ATL.
Camp ifuwanna, we hold you in our heart...
by ifuwannacrownem on Oct 20, 2009 12:28 AM CDT up reply actions
While that was obviously a terrible performance
I don’t see how it qualifies as choking, as Rosenbloom claims. Maybe I’m wrong, but choking is when you’re either heavily favored and lose or you have a huge lead and blow it. Neither of those applies in this case. Sucked? Yes, out loud. Choked? No.
"The time has come to get deeply into Football. It is the only thing we have left that ain't fixed." - HST
Cutler was off...
Jay was throwing the ball a little too high for the recievers to come down with, could be that the adrenaline rush/excitement of sunday night football makes you throw the rock alot harder and isnt really relaxing on his passes but all in all he did good we just need to punch it in the endzone the sneek would have been a play I would consider or the play action pass seems to freeze the secondary and we seem to score pretty nicely with it.
Chris Collinsworth said it best.
In a previous Sunday night game he said “Cutler’s only problem is that he loves his arm too much.” Maybe that explains throwing into triple coverage. His potential is through the roof. He definately makes big time throws but the picks man, the freaking picks.
I have to go off on a rant about the thing that bothers me the most about the media and a lot of fans.
When the Bears made the trade for Cutler, I wasn’t onboard immediately as some others weren’t either, not against it, but just hesitant because I was anxious to see Orton going into camp as the undisputed #1 for the first time. One of the things we brought up was the fact that Jay does throw interceptions and he does not have great stats in the red zone, but most of us were chastized for bringing these things up and most of the media and fans were screaming that “we’re tired of dink and dunks”, ’we’ll take some interceptions for the upside", “it’s because of the team around him”.
Well over the weeks, I accepted the trade and I think Cutler has done an outstanding job given all the circumstances. Now all the other people are screaming about his decision making in the red zone because of one interception that I still say wasn’t a bad decision, just a bad throw. Even Brad Biggs, who I normally respect, is saying he should have never thrown either of the two passes that were picked. BULLSH*T!!!
Why is it that the passes that he completes between defenders are “great passes only a few QB’s can make” and the ones that he tries to get into lesser coverage, but is a little off with his throws are “bad decisions…he should have never tried it”? Get your heads out of your asses. This is a very good, potentially great, QB and he is not going to be perfect all the time. You either accept the fact that a guy with this kind of talent is going to throw a few picks because he is one of the few that can sometimes get the ball into that small window or you go back to a QB that only throws the short, safe passes. Make up your minds.
by BearFan611 on Oct 20, 2009 8:32 AM CDT reply actions 6 recs
agree 100%
You can’t expect the guy to have a perfect game all the time, especially when you have no running game, a piss poor O Line, Ron Turner calling your plays and a defense that makes too many mistakes. Ugh… Good thing Cutler can run because KO would have gotten killed behind that line. I’ll take my chances with Jay. He makes mistakes, but he at least keeps us in games.
This team needs a spark!!
HESTER/forte IN THE WILDCAT
more passes to Forte
and Olsen at FB
Sunday night’s loss has really gotten to me. We should have and could have won, just like v. Green Bay. A loss v. Cedric Benson and we’re toast. Cutler is a nice bump and all, but the rest of the team is playing flat. Unacceptable after a bye week. Gaines Adams might be a boost to the DLine but it is our Oline that has been the most disappointing so far.
I would really like the Bears to use Olsen at the FB position: Olsen sucks so far. His hands/catching need to improve . While his blocking is not the greatest he is big enough to make his blocks more often than not, and fast enough to make blocks on the outside. At a bare minimum Olsen should at least be able function in a way similar to Chris Cooley with the Redskins.
6 yard gain with Hester in the Wildcat = success. Forte (so far this year and basically every Bears RB in recent memory) has been unable to rush on the outside. Hester and Wolfe have the speed to do that (Knox too). To belabor the point… the Bears lovie to run the HB/FB dive. Problem is that play is not working. That doesn’t mean you don’t run, it means you need to get creative with the running game using speed to get to the outside…the WILDCAT. or not the wildcat, just not the dive with an occasional power o.
Hester needs the ball. He is a spark that the Bears simply haven’t stoked enough. We need an offensive coordinator creative enough to get the ball into his playmaker’s hands.
The most disappointing thing about this loss was that the Falcons coaching staff seemed to be a step ahead of and a cut above Lovie and Co.
Turner's offense
is too stale… at this point I’m almost for firing Lovie, hiring Mike Shanahan as head coach, keep marinelli as def coordinator… I’m out.
Trust me rdent4hof....
Your about to be flooded with “he’s too old” messages!!! I wouldnt mind pluggin him in for the remainder of the year tho… another Brandon Lloyd… he gave us some good plays last year… so could Joey!!!
GO BEARS!!!!
I'm not saying I want him...
Just thought it would fire some conversation… maybe I should’ve made a fanpost… at the same time, I’m tired of the “Bring in WRs talk”… At this point, I have know idea what I’m talking about…. so I’ll stop… but first I apologize to anyone that just read this.
Bears
wearing orange on sunday if anyone cares
"I'm sorry Josh, I'm with Chicago now, you need to stop calling me" -JerBear50 as Jay Cutler
"No offense intended" does not jive with posting in the heat of the moment.
by BearNecessities on Oct 20, 2009 7:40 PM CDT reply actions
I'm hoping you mean Turner will be in an Orange Jump Suit picking up garbage on the side of the road....
at least then he would be of some use.
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