NightLink: Bears Sign Cutler To Extension
by SackMan on Oct 20, 2009 8:25 PM CDT
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Jay Cutler 2-year extension with the Chicago Bears. QB will get $30 million with $20 million of it guaranteed. QB now signed thru 2013.
Helmet tip: GallopingGhost
And according to this article, written yesterday on October 19 by Biggs' fellow writer Andrew Brandt of the National Football Post, the Gaines Adams trade freed up cash for the Cutler deal.
From a value standpoint, giving up a second-round draft choice is a truly valuable asset to give up, and personnel people can debate the value of Adams against a 2010 second-round pick. The financial terms, however, skew toward Chicago, which acquired an extremely reasonable contract -- the bulk of the money having been paid by the Bucs -- for a prime position on the team and hedging against paying their existing defensive ends a high market value.
The Bears will need their money. If Jay Cutler progresses as expected, they’re looking at rewarding him with an APY (average per year) of $15M and a guarantee over $30M, based on recent deals by Matt Cassel, Philip Rivers and Eli Manning.
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Nice work SackMan and GG!
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Just because it can be done on Madden NFL does not automatically make it a viable option in real life.
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by TennBengalfan on Oct 21, 2009 2:44 PM CDT up reply actions
I don't know what that means.
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Just because it can be done on Madden NFL does not automatically make it a viable option in real life.
I guess this is good
As much as I don’t like the way the Bear’s are playing, I can’t deny that Cutler has won games for us. Even when he screws up, he isn’t the sole reason we lose games, like in the case of Rex and Orton.
This also partially explains the Gaines Adams trade.
Rock Chalk Jayhawk
But But But
Cutler has thrown for 400 yards every game and beat every team we played by 60 points. :p
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Don't really like how early this is
How about waiting until the end of the season to resign him? I hope this deal inspires him to cut down on his red-zone mistakes.
"Repetition is only good when you've been winning." - Valet
I usually agree with you propheteer but...
are you kidding? Cutler is the only reason this team isn’t 1-4. Cutler didn’t fumble twice in the red zone and he didn’t make Olsen drop the fade route. He has thrown 3 INTs that were just bad trows/decisions, but the rest were on the WRs and TEs. How many sacks would Orton have had by now? This guy has a everything you want in a QB; in fact all the things the Bears haven’t had in decades. These numbers are very reasonable.
There are no stupid questions, but there are a LOT of inquisitive idiots.
I don't dislike it
and I agree he’s probably been worth two extra wins this year. I guess I still have a bad taste in my mouth from Sunday’s loss. It’s a reasonable deal.
"Repetition is only good when you've been winning." - Valet
plus, the main reason for doing it now...
is to use this year’s cap space. hopefully they can find someone that knows how to block with that extra money next year.
Yeah
I read some more on it, and it’s a team favorable deal cause of the possibility of a work stoppage or something.
"Repetition is only good when you've been winning." - Valet
I'd say it was a good move.
Besides those two Sunday Night games, Cutler has been doing well with the Bears offense, and like I have said several times he is making the receivers look a lot better than Rexy or Orton ever did.
Lifelong Arizona Cardinals/Chicago Bears fan.
No band-wagoner fans allowed, pick a team and stick with em, throughout the good and the bad.
Of course this is a good move.
He’s the best QB this team has had in my lifetime. I’d like him to play here until his career is over. Put a solid team around him and you got yourself a super bowl caliber squad. He’s that damn good.
Metal sharpens metal.
And this guy right here understands and knows what leadership is all about: The coach, the hall of famer......... Dick Butka! George Ryan
Smart move
throw some cash his way, create more security for him. Then go out and get him the rest of the pieces he needs to be successful. Bears are looking long term which is good, I’d hate to sell my soul for a band aid like the Farve deal.
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the longer you wait...the more expensive it gets
i think that’s part of the rationale as well. QB contracts are getting richer and richer. cutler is a stud QB. if we had even mediocre o-line play and a moderately creative offensive coordinator, i shudder to think what his numbers would look like. oh, and we’d also be 5-0.
6-0
they’d have given us a win in the bye week just on principle in that case
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by BearNecessities on Oct 20, 2009 10:44 PM CDT up reply actions
Are the Bears sure they didn't sign the night manager of Lake Forest's Super Wal-Mart to an Extension?
by Sam Householder on Oct 20, 2009 9:32 PM CDT reply actions 5 recs
actually it was extremely brilliant move on BEARS managment
Because the way cutler is playing his price would go up by the end of the season, so bears basically made this deal to save as much money as they can.
Looking to the Future
Now all we need is a new offensive coordinater, offensive line guru( a la marenelli but offensive lol), and some OL free agents next year!
The Answer
Well we wouldn’t be paying R. Turner no more or are old OL coach. Third round pick we can use for OL and we can cut Big Frank next year. We also don’t know if someone might retire and all our money is really in the defense (Tons of Safeties and DTs we don’t need)
No way we cut Omiyale
he’ll slide in at backup tackle, or challenge Williams for it, or if pace retires, he’ll slide in at RT
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by BearNecessities on Oct 20, 2009 10:46 PM CDT up reply actions
This is sort of off topic but
Marinelli coming in really has improved your d-line play. It amazes me how much pressure your front 4 seems to be able to get. It really is a shame that Urlacher and Pina are out. With both of them in there, plus Briggs, and your 4 down lineman that might be the fastest front 7 in football.
Lovie taking over the play calling duties has also made a noticeable difference. It again just really amazes how good your defense is, with really a bunch of average guys in your LB corps and secondary (aside from Briggs, Peanut, and Afalava).
Oh and I haven’t heard much about Harris this year. Does he appear to be declining?
by packallday555 on Oct 21, 2009 12:53 AM CDT up reply actions
Theres two views to the Tommie Harris thing
The main one is that his knees are just too beat up, hell he is just beat up period. Many people have said that he plays like he is hurt this year but just keeps on going. If he did come back from an injury too soon then that would be very unfortunate but yeah, his motor has not been the same since the last big knee injury in the 2007 season.
by Chitownproduct on Oct 21, 2009 6:21 AM CDT up reply actions
Harris
He’s good for 2-3 good plays per game, and that’s about it. It is a shame that ‘Lach is out, cause it was obviously the difference in the Atlanta game. Roach was responsible for covering Gonzales (TD and block for White’s TD).
"Repetition is only good when you've been winning." - Valet
I think the Marinelli thing is a little overrated.
In hindsight, the sacks against your squad weren’t at all impressive, as your offensive line, well….. sucks. Nine of our fourteen sacks came against GB and Det, and I can’t recall an hits, or pressure, for that matter, against Atlanta. Marinelli may have made a difference against the bad offensive lines, but until the front four a)generates consistent pressure on it’s own and b) does so against a quality opponent, I won’t be drinking the Marinelli cool-aid.
What makes things worse is watching other teams abuse our offensive line and consistently make contact with Cutler.
Metal sharpens metal.
And this guy right here understands and knows what leadership is all about: The coach, the hall of famer......... Dick Butka! George Ryan
finally someone is with me… that means we only have 5 legit sacks, and seattle’s Oline is decimated with injuries…. i guess their all legit, but with the Packers offensive line that plays like gradeschoolers, and the Lions, well their the Lions… really it’s not that much too brag about.
i think we hit Ryan 2x? which is still absurd
so we either have crappy linemen, or a crappy line coach.
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by BearNecessities on Oct 21, 2009 7:48 PM CDT up reply actions
holy shit
I have to say, I was saying that the Marinelli thing was COMPLETELY OVERRATED early in the season and I got drug through the ringer for it. BN, I’m not saying you were with or against me then but I feel vindicated if that is starting to be the general consensus A MONTH after I first suggested it.
I was against you
on many things, but i dont remember if it was on the Hot Rod thing or not. Most of the pressing issues we have, were “time will tell” things.
Is Cutler what we really needed?
Is Rod working out?
Is Tommie Harris healthy?
Is our Secondary a real concern again?
but 9 sacks against the worst oline in football and the lions, really, thats like GB being the top 5 for INT the first few weeks, but they all came against Cutler
Hot Rod probably helped some fundamental issues we had, thus leading to more sacks than we had the last 2 years (IMO) but we won’t be anywhere near the force we were in 05/06
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by BearNecessities on Oct 21, 2009 10:31 PM CDT up reply actions
Haha
Regardless of how bad Barbre is a sack is still a sack. There is definitely a noticeable difference in the pressure you have been able to get on Qb’s this year from last year.
What makes things worse is watching other teams abuse our offensive line and consistently make contact with Cutler.
Yep, I COMPLETELY understand this.
by packallday555 on Oct 23, 2009 12:59 AM CDT up reply actions
As the world turns at Halas Hall
Rewarding a career record of 20-22. Papa Halas must be turning in his grave. What has Jerry Angelo ever done in his career, to suggest that he has the slightest clue regarding the position of QB?
Wow Rocko
Isn’t you BFF Orton 6-0 this year? Why would it matter to you if Angelo smartly locks up the best player on the team long term while the money is available? Laying down a foundation for the long term by trading away a 2nd round pick for Gaines Adams, which allowed him the extra money to extend Cutler was the smart and right thing to do.
Well triple Wow Dils!
You were sure right with all of your Orton bashing over at MHR earlier in the year. Considering the fact that you loved Rex as a QB, I should just surrender now. On second thought, maybe someone should have filled in the dots for JA. Hello Jerry? Are you there? Help is urgently needed on the OL!!! What the heck you doing trading for a DL?
wow
just wow
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by BearNecessities on Oct 20, 2009 11:12 PM CDT up reply actions
decent move
Get rid of angelo, lovie, turner and babich and we might have something!
by lopey986 on Oct 20, 2009 11:21 PM CDT via mobile reply actions
I heard the $20 million guaranteed was entirely for Jay to stop tweeting Chad Ochocinco
Great use of our money :-P
Seriously, fantastic extension as I’m sure now more than ever that we have a player to build our offense around.
Maybe I just don't understand...
the financial aspect of football all that well… but why just a two year extension? Wouldn’t it have been wiser to lock him up til 2015 at least? Are we not gonna have to drop another 20-30 guaranteed at his next extension? Just wondering.
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yes,we will have to fork over more later but
no one ever plays out their entire contract anyways. remember urlacher’s long contract?
Oh, I do...
but if we’re gonna have to ante up before his contract runs out anyways, why not put the new contract further out and get a few more miles on the guaranteed money?
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by David Taylor on Oct 21, 2009 8:30 AM CDT up reply actions
I am only talking about a "hypothetical NFL Player" and NOT Cutler... no JINX involved
Let’s call our hypothetical player Ray Butler and the team The Beers.
Players want guaranteed money, and don’t want to be locked in to non-guaranteed money so they are motivated to keep contracts reasonably short where non-guaranteed money is involved… as far as the teams go, Ray being locked up for four years is reasonable, Ray gets his guaranteed money up front when we can afford to give it, and the Beers are protected against Ray suffering a career threatening or ending injury by not having to pay him forever if something bad happens.
I'm just not following...
Ray (as we are calling him) suffers a career ending injury. We still have to pay him that guaranteed money that we are already paying, no matter how many years the extension is for. If we are paying all of that guaranteed money up front (when we can afford it), and he gets hit by the proverbial bus in three years, we lose nothing by adding a few years on the deal. We just drop him and cut our losses.
But if Ray goes on, eats his brocolli and stays out of traffic, we only get a two year bypass before we have to dish out that guaranteed money again.
I guess I just don’t get the logic. That being said, I’m sure it was a smart move by made by people who are more financially and business savvy than a fan (me).
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by David Taylor on Oct 21, 2009 9:47 AM CDT up reply actions
If the O Line doesn't improve
he won’t make it to the end of this extension anyway.
But on a serious note, I kind of like the short extension idea. I don’t keep track of our salary cap space but I’d assume this guaranteed money took up a good chunk. IMO better to hand out small, manageable guaranteed sums rather than big ones so you don’t tank the cap that year.
There’s going to be some union contract changes coming soon. This extension will get us past that with a couple years to see how the new, big money contract dynamic plays out.
It’s also good for Cutler because it gives him a chance to for free agent at 30.
There’s going to be some union contract changes coming soon. This extension will get us past that with a couple years to see how the new, big money contract dynamic plays out.
This makes sense. It’s is the equivalent, to me, of gambling though. Maybe it works in the Bears’ favor, maybe not. I guess I’d just like to make the dollars stretch out further.
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by David Taylor on Oct 21, 2009 9:50 AM CDT up reply actions
I do hope that the Bears' world will stop revolving around Planet Cutler next year
It’s obvious that it has to be this way this year. It seems like the underlying theme to just about everything that happens this year comes back to Cutler and The Trade. That’s natural, considering it should impact the franchise for the next decade. But the bottom line is this- and it has been touched on by others – we need a lot more than Jay Cutler to get back to where we want to be (Super Bowl, baby).
The Bears didn’t have a choice here. They had to sign him for a couple more years. The comments about the possible work stoppage are really great points. And the bottom line is that the team can’t mortgage its future (not the WHOLE FUTURE, but what we gave up in the Orton deal was ridiculous) and then only get 2-3 years out of guy. So for good or ill we have to ride this out with Cutler.
People seem to be freaking out quite a bit about this Atlanta loss. I don’t get it. We lost, on the road, to a better team? What’s the big deal? We RARELY EVER play well out of a bye week! That’s not just a Lovie thing, it’s kind of a Bears thing. I actually think our record is a bit better than what I expected at this point. And RE: Atlanta, you can say that they didn’t beat us as much as we lost the game, but I would say that’s exactly what we did to Pittsburgh. It was kind of clear that without Cutler we wouldn’t have even been in that Atlanta game, much less with a chance to win it. But it was also clear that this team has a lot of holes and the focus needs to get off the QB (hopefully this extension will do just that by lending the idea of stability) and get back on what we need to do to get out of that second tier and back among the top dogs in the NFL.
10 touchdowns, 7 INTs, a 3-2 mark this year (which would likely be 2-3 without him), a 20-22 record as a starter, and an 86.1 quarterback rating. Not great. Not terrible. But the boys in the front office better hope it gets a whole lot better or this trade (and signing) is going to continue to look one-sided.
It's funny how you disappeared while we were on that 3 game
winning streak, the one where Cutler posted three straight 100+ passer ratings with 7 TDs and 1 INT. Now, after the ATL loss, you’re back.
Lol. Well, welcome back I reckon.
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by Dane Noble on Oct 21, 2009 2:30 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
I knew that was coming
I will admit that my timing is “auspicious” but it’s more been a matter of limited time. Gearing up for NBA and college hoops, finishing up MLB and full bore in college and pro football so my time is scarce. But this week is a rare “in between” week for me before the schize hits the fan and I’m locked in the cave from November through March.
Hey, don’t think I haven’t noticed how well Cutler is playing. And I’ve been enjoying it! They came through in a big way for me in Seattle (personally and professionally) and even though he still is too careless for my taste at times I won’t deny that he’s made plays.
And even I don’t think for one second that the Atlanta loss was on him. Did he have two INT’s? Yeah, but it’s the NFL – quarterbacks throw INT’s sometimes. It didn’t help, but that one wasn’t on him. I actually had Atlanta (-3) as my NFC Game of the Year. I just knew it was a really bad spot for us and I am a big fan of this Atlanta team. I would say I got kind of lucky, but I’ve also found that in gambling most times things go the way they were meant to.
I also know a couple pretty serious guys that are POUNDING the Bears this week. I was a bit surprised. But when you think about it, we aren’t likely to be as sloppy again this week. Also, the Bengals are an easy play – they are a great underdog and a lousy favorite.
Finally, it looks like we’re going to be battling Philadelphia, Green Bay, and San Francisco for that last playoff spot. Good news is that we get heads-up matchups with all three so it’s kind of on us. I look at our schedule and I see us as a solid, solid 9-7. And this is the NFL, where if we just get one break (bad call, fluke INT, made/missed FG) we’re 10-6. And we will have to see if that’s good enough. But even if we don’t make it this year – barring a meltdown – even I’m not damn fool enough to “blame Jay”. We have some glaring holes that are keeping us from being an elite team. We are good. But we are not elite.
Hey BF
what do you see with SF, you see them fighting for WC and not Division? IMO the Seahawks are imploding, the Rams really want that #1 draft pick, and I don’t think the Cards are going to get hot this year.
Do you think the Bears pull down that WC spot, or who are the teams that do?
Just curious
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by BearNecessities on Oct 21, 2009 6:41 PM CDT up reply actions
i actually
Agree with you 100 percent about the teams out West. I think San Fran is overrated. They had some steam coming out of the preseason, but the bottom line is that they can’t consistently move the ball on offense, they had an easy opening schedule, and over the course of the four-month meat-grinder that is the NFL season talent usually wins out.
Also, very interested to see how Singletary’s IN-YOUR-BLEEPIN’-FACE style goes over when things aren’t going well. Everyone quick to say how great he is after a fast start. But after three or four losses and some serious adversity, how are those guys going to respond. And eventually it will come down to X’s and O’s because as the games get more intense everyone (playing for something) is as motivated and intense.
Now, all of that said, I do think San Fran will hang around a bit, but they are definitely behind us. They will have some success (if we’re a STRONG 9-7 I see them as a WEAK 8-8) because they have the right scheme: run the ball and play physical on defense. You do that in the NFL you normally are there in the last four minutes of games. I think they can be penciled in for four more wins and I think they can find a way to win one of their road games. (Although I think Chicago will shit-house them. They are a very good matchup for us because as long as our front seven stands tall I don’t see them scoring in the red zone against us.)
As for Arizona, their front seven might be the most underrated in football. Those guys HIT people. They are amazingly weak in the secondary (still; no idea how they could go back, watch that Super Bowl tape and be like, “Yeah, I think we’re good back there.”)
In reality, I think Philadelphia (schizo) and Green Bay are our top competition. Philly will be there in December, but their defense is suspect in a big game. Green Bay is, in my opinion, our top competition. And I give them a bit of an edge because A) their skill players are a shade above ours, and B) their defense, particularly in the secondary, is much more settled than ours. But their offensive line is actually much worse than ours, and that’s tough to do. And all it takes is one play – blindside hit that either puts Rodgers down or causes a fumble returned for INT that costs them a game – with that O-Line to make the difference between us and them.
sorry
To finish my thought on Arizona:
They have looked pretty sharp the last two weeks in two key spots for them. They seem to have pulled their heads our of their asses to get over the “hangover”. They still have a rough schedule remaining, but I think they have enough to get past San Fran.
one other thing
Those glaring holes are why I was so dumbfounded about the Cutler-Orton deal. I feel like people get caught up in the Orton vs. Cutler, game-manager-with-steady-hand vs. raw-talent-gunslinger philosophical quarterback debate that they overlook the most glaring fact: we gave up TWO first-round picks AND a third-round pick! So when people say that the trade is a “push” or a win for both teams because both quarterbacks are playing well and fitting in well within their respective teams I say that’s ridiculous. We got a very good QB. OK. But at what cost? We gave up a very good QB and a guy I was 100 percent in favor of. I say the cost was way, way too high. Said it then, saying it now. Because I sure as hell would have liked to have grabbed Michael Oher or Rey Maualuga this year, then used the other No. 1 next year to go after some secondary help, offensive line help, etc. That’s how teams get better in the NFL. So even if Cutler is as good as you think he is it’s going to be very hard to surround him with the talent he needs to reach his potential when you’ve gutted your top end draft position for two years. And that’s the big picture. Not Jay vs. Kyle.
I mean, are we better now, or would we have been better by making some free agent moves to get either Brian Dawkins/Darren Sharper, taking Michael Oher with our No. 1, trading up that No. 3 that we gave up in the Cutler deal to jump up in Round 2 to get Maualuga, and then maybe giving up the other No. 1 pick to bring in Brandon Marshall when he was on the outs with the Broncos? Would we be better with all of those players and Orton at QB or where we are now (and moving forward) with Cutler? I’m not saying there’s a right answer one way or another. (I have an opinion, as I’m sure you all do as well.) I’m just saying that it’s something to think of. Those moves aren’t exactly “pie in the sky”.
Watch Your Back Buddy
I am surprised that your views on this issue have gone tolerated and unchallenged for so long at WCG. I raised pretty much the same points in my only posting thus far at WCG, and I was immediately verbally assaulted by the likes of the original author Sackman and GeauxBear, MikeB, GeoMak, Ditkavsworld, (my apologies to the other recognized authorities at the site that I have failed to mention) and a number of other regular participants. Some how they have failed to scrutinize your comments, so on their behalf, I will set you straight on the following points:
1. Jay Cutler is the greatest QB in Bear history and easily worth the price of a few number one draft choices.
2. The Bears are very erratic in their development of number one picks anyway, so why take the chance.
3. Jerry Angelo et al are savants when it comes to finding and developing late round gems. As an example one need look no further than 5th rounder (from Denver no less) Johnny Knox, playing as well as any 1st rounder.
I know the experts at WCG can offer up many more scintillating insights and I look forward to the day they discover the fallacies you have attempted to foist on their page, and the biting rebukes and recriminations you will suffer. Beware, buckle up that chin strap and prepare to be buried.
Well written at least
and i can agree on it. sure it took you a while to “Bear it down” for us too loyal fans
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by BearNecessities on Oct 21, 2009 4:44 PM CDT up reply actions
Cutler attitude or laid back?
So much buzz on Sun night about Cutler’s lack of professionalism durig post-game press conf. Honestly, I don’t care as a fan. I want wins. I think we are on right direction however ask me after Bungles game.
I watched the Cutler press conf video highlights from today:
http://www.csnchicago.com/pages/landing?Jay-Cutler-Signs-Two-Year-Extension-with=1&blockID=82217&feedID=661
It’s hard to get a read on him. I think he cares a lot behind closed doors, but again too tough to tell from watching or reading the media reaction.
Jay's always reacted like that
and that’s what got him his “immature” moniker, acting nonchalant about it.
But i think that’s good. be immune to the media.. at least he isn’t like rex
“honestly, we were really thinking about New Year’s Eve”
he has to speak to the scripted stuff and isn’t happy about it, i dont blame him for doing it like this
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by BearNecessities on Oct 21, 2009 4:45 PM CDT up reply actions
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