A moment to vent: I don't want these five back here in 2010

by ifuwannacrownem on Oct 25, 2009 6:34 PM CDT Comment 73 comments

And as I'm writing this, Cutler just got picked off for the third time in the game. Seems like the perfect time to vent. Right in the middle of the biggest asskicking in the Angelovie era.

5. Jerry Angelo- I want to punch the next person in the face that thinks that our O-line is fine. Really? "we like Frank Omiyale" Really? Gaines Adams was a better trade choice than Ernie Sims or Derrick Johnson? I've had enough of you Jerry.

4. Frank Omiyale- Die Frank Die!!!

3. Harry Hiestand- Why doesn't anyone single this guy out? Well I think it's time to right now. Jay Cutler's been beaten up all year, rushing his throws, throwing off his back foot, and forcing passes that aren't there. The Bengals were able to get pressure with four down linemen? All who had injuries???.

And the run blocking? LOOK AT WHAT BENSON'S DOING TO US! WHY COULDN'T HE DO THAT HERE?!?!

2. John Hoke- he was supposed to improve a secondary . hasn't happened. won't happen under Hoke. secondary is still getting beaten like a red-headed stepchild.

1. Ron Turner- Guess what, Dan Pompei? Perception IS reality, you pompous ass! Down 14-0 in the first quarter, Turner wants to call three yard slants to Olsen? HE WANTS TO CALL SCREENS TO FORTE AND CLARK??? no play-action, no nickel and dime throws, no momentum changing plays? That would've made John Shoop ill. I'm done with Turner. Bring in Gruden.

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Whaddya

you want RT to do with no Oline, you can’t call anything but short slants/ curl routes, and screens.

yeah, fire RT… but no Oline = limited playcalling ability

"I'm sorry Josh, I'm with Chicago now, you need to stop calling me" -JerBear50 as Jay Cutler
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by BearNecessities on Oct 25, 2009 6:41 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

if RT was a halfway decent coordinator he would be calling plays to compensate for the weak line play

by brands735 on Oct 25, 2009 9:33 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

you can only do so many

1 step drop passes… everything is dependent on the next, those passes require timing routes, which require time to develop an understanding between receiver and QB.
3 and 5 step drops require a pocket, something Cutler has not had here. grab a stopwatch for the rest of the season, he has had about 2-2.6 seconds to get a play off…not nearly enough time

"I'm sorry Josh, I'm with Chicago now, you need to stop calling me" -JerBear50 as Jay Cutler
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by BearNecessities on Oct 25, 2009 10:06 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Even roll-outs and play-actions. Anything to get the QB out of the line of fire of the defensive line. I don’t know, they all sucked yesterday coaches and players a like. I still think we have talent just look like we don’t care about the game. And now this stuff with Tommie Harris. Blah. I am trying to find Shanahan’s number as we speak.

by brands735 on Oct 26, 2009 9:27 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

++++++++++++++++++++1

There is not a single person in the front office or coaching staff that deserves to get paid today. It is one thing to lose. It’s another thing to lose badly. But there is no excuse for the performance I saw today. Wolfe up the middle. 3 yard outs on 2nd and 26? Can Olsen take a hit? Guess not you pussy! There is not a player or coach that should collect a paycheck for this game. Give it all to charity because no one earned it. This team is in horrible shape and it will take effort to win 3 more games this season. The quasi-ownership of this team needs to fire Phillips, Angelo, and Smith tomorrow. There is no excuse for this!

There are no stupid questions, but there are a LOT of inquisitive idiots.

by LostInSTL on Oct 25, 2009 6:44 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

i had high hopes for this

based off the title

by mike b on Oct 25, 2009 6:53 PM CDT reply actions 1 recs

time for my five

1. Lovie Smith
2. Ron Turner
3. Harry Hiestand
4. Bob Babich
5. Frank Omiyale

by Man G on Oct 25, 2009 6:55 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

I like Man G's list.

Watch me pull a hat outta this rabbit.

by Bears fan 4-ever!!! on Oct 25, 2009 7:35 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Very nice list

I’d add…

Kreutz
Pace
Davis
HH
Harris

Make it a cool top-ten.

"Repetition is only good when you've been winning." - Valet

by propheteer on Oct 25, 2009 10:26 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Here's my 5

1. Lovie Smith
2. Lovie Smith
3. Lovie Smith
4. Lovie Smith
5. Lovie Smith

by McRipper on Oct 25, 2009 7:07 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

McRipper is a Smart Man

A) The HC runs the team. PERIOD.

B) When said HC is also the DC and the defense looks like they are playing 10 MAN FOOTBALL! . . . then, sorry Lovie. It’s been fun. Good luck on you next job.

by GeoMak on Oct 25, 2009 7:16 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Well

to his credit, 12-men football didn’t work for him last week.

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by smudgers on Oct 25, 2009 7:24 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

That must be it.

Someone needs to tell Lovie that 11 is the number right between 10 & 12.

by GeoMak on Oct 25, 2009 7:27 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

I know it would be awkward

but I wouldn’t mind keeping Lovie as the DC if the Bears get Cowher/Billick/Shanahan/Holmgren/Gruden…

by Cosmis on Oct 25, 2009 8:38 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

It would never happen

Too many hard feelings and resentment.

"Repetition is only good when you've been winning." - Valet

by propheteer on Oct 25, 2009 10:28 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

I hate mid-season coach firings but after the last 2 weeks, in order to have anyone respect us, we should get rid of Lovie and Ron tonight and JA at the end of the year.

by brands735 on Oct 25, 2009 7:08 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

Ownership is worse than the coaching

Therefore, it’ll take them another couple of years to figure out that the management and coaching sucks!

Jerry and Lovie probably have a few more years and comments like “Frank is our left guard” and “I didn’t have the team prepared to play football today”

by JimmyMack on Oct 26, 2009 6:30 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

I don't think I can take this all week..

I might have to stay off the blog for the whole week..

Roach love the run stuffin', but don't forget about the TE over the middle!!
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by tfrabotta on Oct 25, 2009 7:18 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

that's my plan

by mike b on Oct 25, 2009 8:13 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

I'm going to see how tomorrow goes.

And make my decision then.

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by Ditkavsworld on Oct 25, 2009 8:25 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Outlook:

Not so good.

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"Newbie, if the next two words out of your mouth aren't 'See ya' then the third word will be 'Oh my god. My crotch. You've punched me in my crotch." - Dr. Percival Ulysses Cox

by smudgers on Oct 26, 2009 9:12 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Thought it'd be worse

still sifting through the comments. Your buddy Bearonco made another nice one on Gesia’s thread.

by Ditkavsworld on Oct 26, 2009 9:23 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Yeah, I saw it.

I’m not sure I can take all the negativity for an entire week. I get it, I honestly do… we laid a big one on the field last night. But all of this complete house cleaning, switching allegiances, doom and gloom speak is a bit much for me to take for an entire week. I’m sure I’ll be here now and again though.

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"Newbie, if the next two words out of your mouth aren't 'See ya' then the third word will be 'Oh my god. My crotch. You've punched me in my crotch." - Dr. Percival Ulysses Cox

by smudgers on Oct 26, 2009 1:35 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Should get better as the week goes on.

But yes sometimes too much negativety is too much. There’s a bright spot somewhere just not sure where as of yet.

by Ditkavsworld on Oct 26, 2009 2:48 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Holy crap

just popped back here to break my word and for what? To read some of the crap written today?? I should have stayed off..Just focusing on the bulls this week..

Roach love the run stuffin', but don't forget about the TE over the middle!!
- "Original WCG Power Poster!"

by tfrabotta on Oct 26, 2009 5:42 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

i agree tfrabotta

it’s gotta be a rehab week for me

"This one means 'Kill Kirk!!!!'... And also, 'hallelujah'... Depending on the context."

by trippingandy on Oct 25, 2009 9:59 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

go ahead and fire lovie thats 5 years of rebuilding

i still beleive in lovie i think we need to try lovie with a new oc. why are we doing hurry up with three wideouts and dez clark?!?!? why is olsen not in there? olsen was on the bench for no reason.
i think all of us are pissed off and we have the right to be next week is the browns and if we do not win handly i will make another fanpost adressing this same topic!!
BEAR DOWN!!!

by Bear Lovin 21 on Oct 25, 2009 7:21 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

I'd rather have 5 years...

of rebuilding with a better coach thanks. Olsen wasn’t doing anything useful, so whether he was on the bench or not didn’t make any difference. Has this Bear’s team gotten any better since the SB in ’06? Lovie has not been able to right the ship since then, time to bring in new blood. The sooner the better.

There are no stupid questions, but there are a LOT of inquisitive idiots.

by LostInSTL on Oct 25, 2009 7:33 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs

better how?

they had a winning season again which none of the superbowl losers are able to do right after look at seattle oakland etc.
alot of people are not thinking rationally now and i understand why because the bears got ran over. we all want to can management turner and lovie as well(some of us do) what if the bears run off 5 or 6 in a row? we need to wait it out a bit.
im not too nice…….if this losing streak piles up to 5 or something more severe youll hear me calling also.

by Bear Lovin 21 on Oct 25, 2009 8:07 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Better in the sense...

that at least the same coaching mistakes and front office blunders won’t spoil the fact that the Bears have Cutler and should build around him. JA and Lovie can’t do the job and it’s time to get rid of the failed past. You do know the Bears were 7-9 in the year after the SB, right? And 9-7 the next year. That’s awful for a team that had SB talent. Plus, they got rid of most of that team, right or wrong. Is there a part of the team, beside Cutler, that is better or has the promise of getting better? My criticism isn’t just because of this game. I was raising questions after the Seahawk game and I drew flack for not being happy with the lackluster win at Detroit. Now, I am fully convinced that this staff deosn’t have any answers to the problems. And I would rather cut the blood loss before the end of the season, when the Bears will get outbid for the services of a good coach. What more do you need to see to get that this staff is done for, no matter how talented they might have been 4 years ago?

There are no stupid questions, but there are a LOT of inquisitive idiots.

by LostInSTL on Oct 25, 2009 8:42 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

and myself,

criticizing the bears Oline in addition to RT, got me told to shut up. so who knows

"I'm sorry Josh, I'm with Chicago now, you need to stop calling me" -JerBear50 as Jay Cutler
"No offense intended" does not jive with posting in the heat of the moment.

by BearNecessities on Oct 25, 2009 8:59 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Even if they somehow run off 5 or 6 in a row (which I don't see)

where does that leave us? Sneaking into the playoffs where we get completely exposed and blown off the field? Our line can’t stop bad-to-average defenses; what do you think would happen if we drew the Giants in the playoffs? I don’t even want to think about what the Saints would do to our secondary…

"The time has come to get deeply into Football. It is the only thing we have left that ain't fixed." - HST

by JerBear50 on Oct 26, 2009 12:01 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

It took all of one

For Parcells and Sparano

"The phone's for you, I think it's the Devil."

by Acreman20 on Oct 25, 2009 7:39 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

But that would require bringing in real football people...

and the owners don’t have a great record of that now, do they?

There are no stupid questions, but there are a LOT of inquisitive idiots.

by LostInSTL on Oct 25, 2009 7:41 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Nope

"The phone's for you, I think it's the Devil."

by Acreman20 on Oct 25, 2009 7:42 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

McCaskey's Suck!!! We have to get rid of them?

Watch me pull a hat outta this rabbit.

by Bears fan 4-ever!!! on Oct 25, 2009 7:43 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Know any hitmen?

"The phone's for you, I think it's the Devil."

by Acreman20 on Oct 25, 2009 7:44 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Your good, reading my mind. lol

Watch me pull a hat outta this rabbit.

by Bears fan 4-ever!!! on Oct 25, 2009 7:45 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Pappa Bear Halas wouldn't put up with this shit would he?

Watch me pull a hat outta this rabbit.

by Bears fan 4-ever!!! on Oct 25, 2009 7:44 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

I am not a McCaskey fan either, but before we get into revisionist history

the Bears were going nowhere in the ’70’s and early ’80’s under George Halas. It was only when Jim Finks was brought in by Mugs Halas that things (drafting players, bringing Buddy Ryan) started to get better. Mugs passed away unexpectedly and George took over again and the development stalled. Now, granted Papa Bear did bring Ditka back, but it wasn’t until he passed away and the Finks/Vanisi regime had free reign did the mid 80’s Bears become dominant. When Finks was run out because Michael McCaskey decided he was a football man, the downhill skid began.

Before Ditka, some of Papa Bears great head coach choices were Abe Gibron and Jim Dooley, not exactly the Golden Age of Bear football. Toward the end, outside of the Ditka signing, he was a “not as bad version” of today’s Al Davis. A legend who had hung around a little too long.

by BearFan611 on Oct 25, 2009 9:10 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

I remember some of their teams from the 70's and you are right.

I would just really like to see them play with some passion again and I think that starts with the coaching staff. It seems like they lost their edge on defense when Rivera got let go and I have never been a RT fan when it comes to their offense. I am beside myself on how bad the whole team played today. Really poor performance.

Watch me pull a hat outta this rabbit.

by Bears fan 4-ever!!! on Oct 25, 2009 10:46 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

I agree 100%

this team has lacked passion for years. The Wannstedt, Jauron, and Lovie eras have been a complete waste except for the one season where our lack of passion kept us from winning a very winnable Super Bowl against Indy.

I’m not wishing anything bad on her, but I really believe that until Virginia McCaskey passes on and her kids end up selling, we will be stuck on this ride of lifeless, uninspiring management.

by BearFan611 on Oct 25, 2009 11:00 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

whats miami doing now? mediocore at best

by Bear Lovin 21 on Oct 25, 2009 8:03 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

I think Miami is gonna be more than fine.

I’ve liked what they’ve done in the draft and free-agency.

And they did win the AFC East last year.

by rdent4hof on Oct 26, 2009 5:54 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

My five

1. The offensive line coach
2. The genius who decided that Nate Vasher would be an acceptable safety
3. Jerry Angelo
4. Orlando Pace.
5. Ron Gleason

It's a simple question, Doctor: would you eat the moon if it were made of ribs??

by Invalid User on Oct 25, 2009 7:30 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

My five...

1. The Coaches.
2. JA
3. Ted Phillips
4. The offensive line
5. The defense (except Afalave and Briggs).

There are no stupid questions, but there are a LOT of inquisitive idiots.

by LostInSTL on Oct 25, 2009 7:34 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

Better coaching staff all around.

With the last three coaches we are 0 and 3. Look at the other two we let go, they still suck and so will Lovie. He can’t succeed with his philosophy because it is way too soft and he has no emotion. We have been stuck with that golly gee mentalitiy. Please, someone help us because Lovie is stuck being too big of a pussy.

Watch me pull a hat outta this rabbit.

by Bears fan 4-ever!!! on Oct 25, 2009 7:41 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

Why the hell

Aren’t Moore, Gilbert, and Louis getting ANY PT???

"The phone's for you, I think it's the Devil."

by Acreman20 on Oct 25, 2009 7:45 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

I ask myself the same questions dude. What the hell?

Watch me pull a hat outta this rabbit.

by Bears fan 4-ever!!! on Oct 25, 2009 7:47 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

It's like the coaching staff wants us to lose because...

they sure dont do anything to help us win.

Watch me pull a hat outta this rabbit.

by Bears fan 4-ever!!! on Oct 25, 2009 7:49 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

The buck stops with Jerry Angelo

He is responsible for the coaching staff and the players on the roster. The 2008 team had many weaknesses on defense and offense, many of which have not been addressed. It’s time for JA to hit the road.

by rocko1 on Oct 25, 2009 7:46 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

I was ready for him to be gone a long time ago.

Watch me pull a hat outta this rabbit.

by Bears fan 4-ever!!! on Oct 25, 2009 7:47 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Angelo is

the cancer within the Bears’ organization.

by rocko1 on Oct 25, 2009 7:50 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Yep, a worthless piece of shit he is.

Watch me pull a hat outta this rabbit.

by Bears fan 4-ever!!! on Oct 25, 2009 7:51 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Thank God I missed the Game!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Had to work during the time the game was on, and thank god i did not see any of it. Were there any high points to the game?

by Nando21 on Oct 25, 2009 7:48 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

Hester w/ a 100 yd game was about it

"The phone's for you, I think it's the Devil."

by Acreman20 on Oct 25, 2009 7:49 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

You are definitely an optimist, but that really was it.

Watch me pull a hat outta this rabbit.

by Bears fan 4-ever!!! on Oct 25, 2009 7:50 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

To be fare.

Briggs played a great game, as usual. In fact, when the entire D looked as if they’d thrown in the towel… Briggs was still flying around trying to make plays. He’s a gamer!

by rdent4hof on Oct 26, 2009 5:57 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Most of the yards

were after the fact. Bengals stopped blitzing and started playing more of a prevent defense after they were up by 30 points.

by rocko1 on Oct 25, 2009 7:52 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Eh...

Everything after the halfway point in the 1st quarter was after the fact pretty much.

"The phone's for you, I think it's the Devil."

by Acreman20 on Oct 25, 2009 7:54 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

it ended

"I'm sorry Josh, I'm with Chicago now, you need to stop calling me" -JerBear50 as Jay Cutler
"No offense intended" does not jive with posting in the heat of the moment.

by BearNecessities on Oct 25, 2009 7:54 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

+1

"The phone's for you, I think it's the Devil."

by Acreman20 on Oct 25, 2009 7:58 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

the best part of the game was the final whisle. we should have a poll to vote who would take over lovie.

by stepeo on Oct 25, 2009 8:05 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

Assuming we still have Lovie and the Tampa 2 next year

I think we should see about bringing Herm Edwards in as our DB’s coach. Yes, I know he was a failure as an HC, but he was a good position coach, he came from this system, and he’s worked with Lovie in the past. When he got booted from KC, he said he would never take an HC job again, but he would be open to being a secondary coach again. If we’re not going to dump the whole staff and start from scratch (which we’re not), we may as well try and improve where we can.

"The time has come to get deeply into Football. It is the only thing we have left that ain't fixed." - HST

by JerBear50 on Oct 25, 2009 8:28 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

There are two things I'd like to comment on...

1. I have been saying since I joined this site that I wouldn’t mind seeing a different coaching staff in here, but the reality is the players we have here, have been assembled for this system so changing staffs right now really wouldn’t make a difference for this season. If we miss the playoffs, which looks like a distinct possibility, change the whole group and bring in a Head Coach who is flexible enough to build a system where the players he has can fit into it. It would probably have to be some version of the Cover 2 just because we don’t have enough draft picks to make wholesale changes and we’re tied up in some of the contracts of the current roster.

2. I wish the Bears were playing a different team next week. In my opinion, the only way this game can tell us anything is if we lose. That would speak volumes to the inability of the coaching staff to get anything out of the players if we lose at home to a team as bad as the Browns, especially after these last two weeks. A win tells us nothing and I could see where it would cause the morons on our coaching staff to give us their usual B.S. about sticking with their plan. Big SH*T!!! A win against the Browns! If we were playing a more middle of the pack team and we were able to come up with a win, I’d be more willing to write this week off as a bad game.

by BearFan611 on Oct 25, 2009 9:21 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

I said before the Falcons game

….that the Bears hadn’t proven they were a good team by beating a good team.
And yes,it is the coaching.

"Chance favors the prepared mind." - Pasteur

by Maelvampyre on Oct 25, 2009 9:46 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

The Steelers are what?

Bengal Fodder???

Are biggest problem is that our defense has NO onfield leadership.

With Urlacher injured and Brown released, our defensive leadership is given to young inexperienced players and Lamborghini Lance(don’t get me wrong, Briggs is a BEAST, but he is not the person on the defense, who should be in a leadership position).

Unreasonable people make life difficult...

by WisBearsFan34 on Oct 26, 2009 12:56 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

*Our biggest problem is the offensive line. Defense didn’t look horrible until yesterday.

by brands735 on Oct 26, 2009 1:28 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Someone needs to

start a new nick-name thread. Give us something else to think about.

by weasel27 on Oct 25, 2009 11:36 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

Five things to do in order of importance

1. Multiple McCaskey executions. All traces to be removed from existence. Sorry Pops.

2. Lovie “Bubba-Gump shrimp” Smith. He can be defended no longer after the Cincinatti incident. That was brutality in all its forms.

3. Jerry Angelo. Get thee hence to endless night …..

4. Ron Turner. Get the f**k out of town !

5. Harry Hiestand. Likewise.

by Irish Bears Fan on Oct 26, 2009 2:12 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs

so we

bring in this guy
at least he shows emotions :D

Bring back our honey bears...sick and tired of hearing about the dallas cowboy cheerleaders and the bars they go work at when they quit. cold weather + cheerleaders in skimpy outfits = lots of fun

by tomh115 on Oct 26, 2009 9:12 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs

GET RID OF ANGELO, LOVIE

THe guy that gave away,Cliff Harris,Thomas Jones, Ced Benson, Justin Gage etc.And Lovie for handing people jobs without earning them. hey gang we’er stuck with the McCaskey’s. I want Cowher,no Tampa 2 , no Tommie Harris a left side of the O-line that can block, a runningback that breaks tackles and a big gun wide reciever.

by mbear on Oct 26, 2009 10:56 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs

I Agree About Turner

I was like, let’s get some bombs going and try and get back in this thing. Of course not! The Bears just stuck with the script of dink and dunk football. Tampa 2 + Turner minus Bill Cower + Lovie = failure.

by Gesiakob on Oct 26, 2009 11:13 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs