The Quotable Bears - Week Seven
This installation of the Quotables is a little different from the standard. I'm tossing in a few quotes at the end, but I'm going to use the majority of this space to go on a few rants.
#1: Ron Turner deserves some blame
Key word here is some. Ron's play calling has been good at times, bad at others. We all know this. However, I don't want to continually read this week that "Ron Turner deserves to be fired because he sucks." Blanket statements such as that don't prove anything.
Does he deserve blame for continually trying to run the ball when it's obvious that either Forte is still nursing an injury and/or our OL sucks? Yeah, somewhat. But he's also dialed up some good plays. Take the good with the bad.
And, just for good measure, think about 2008. We had a crappy offense all the way around, and yet we still were close to making the playoffs. Ron Turner was fantastic last year.
#2: Coaching is an issue
Anyone who's been around throughout the time I've been here know that I've supported Lovie Smith. The past two games have proven to me that Lovie is struggling getting the players prepared.
We were sloppy as hell during the Falcons game, which was disheartening because we had two full weeks to get healthy and prepare a solid gameplan. Granted, Lovie doesn't play for the guys, but it was clear that our guys weren't as prepared as they should've been.
This week was a complete disaster. The defense was continuously confused and was beat. They were flat-out beat. Carson Palmer had all the time in the world to throw and Cedric Benson ran around like he was playing at Texas. I'm severely disappointed with how we've played the past two games.
#3: Stop with the "former Bears that are doing so well"
This is something that's been bothering me for a while.
Seriously, can we stop with the "Bears don't develop talent" bit? Let's look at some of those players, shall we? Bernard Berrian? He's not a #1 WR, but Minnesota sure paid them like he was. And please remember that it came down to Berrian or Briggs. Johnny Knox has 224 yards and 3 TD's, while Berrian has 234 yards and 2 TD's. Berrian is making $13.4 million, while Knox is making at least 12.5 million less than that.
Mark Bradley? Injured all the time.
Justin Gage? Bad
Marc Colombo? Injured and bad with the Bears
Cedric Benson? Injured at times, immature, and drunk
Just stop. That argument is for the football stupid.
#4: Know what we are
We are a passing team. Our starting RB either has an injury or he has regressed in his second year. Our OL is terrible. Our DL can't get pressure. Our LB's are injury depleted and somewhat bad. Our secondary is a damn joke.
Cutler will have to carry the team this year. He's going to have to make plays, which means that he'll have some interceptions. Learn to love it, because that's the only way we're going to win.
As of right now, we're not a playoff team. Again, learn to love it. The only bright spots on this team is Cutler, Johnny Knox, and our ST.
Lovie on the game:
"The Chicago Bears should never lose a football game like that. I didn't have my team ready to go this week. We'll learn from this game. It was a total breakdown by us, but you move on. Experience teaches you a lot and we've been in this spot before."
Cutler on the game:
"I think it's really embarrassing. I'm embarrassed and I think everyone in that locker room is embarrassed. The coaches and the players are embarrassed."
Lance Briggs on the game:
"We suck, we sucked. They completely dominated us."
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To the Bears fans who thought Bengals were trying to run up the score by keeping Benson in to rush in the 4th quarter. The real reason was that the Bengals’ 2nd RB Scott was injured (knee) in the game and our 3rd RB was out and never active. Our FB J. Johnson was also injured, hence why we had Peko (a DT) play temp FB. Since Bengals had to run out the time, they had no choice but to use Benson and the backup QB while the starters were replace by backups in the 4th.
And to the Bears fans who wanted Benson to get injured just for doing his job and the fact that he didn’t work out for during his time with the Bears: Real classy…
I would say good game but it would have been utterly pointless at this point. On the bright side, Bears play the Browns next week which is essentially a bye week (they only play hard on division game it seems).
Sorry
And to the Bears fans who wanted Benson to get injured just for doing his job and the fact that he didn’t work out for during his time with the Bears: Real classy…
There’s absolutely no place for hoping an injury on someone. I supported CB just about the entire time in Chicago, and it’s really too bad he didn’t figure it out with the Bears.
"Repetition is only good when you've been winning." - Valet
What about if it's Omiyale?
And what if we just want him to pull something so he’s out of the lineup?
I can be okay
with sore ankles… or TH related injuries this week… soreness.
"I'm sorry Josh, I'm with Chicago now, you need to stop calling me" -JerBear50 as Jay Cutler
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by BearNecessities on Oct 26, 2009 6:07 PM CDT up reply actions
If the injury
was like a hang-nail or bruised ego I’d be fine with it.
"Repetition is only good when you've been winning." - Valet
i agree with cutler and briggs(we suck)
Came we bring in someone who knows how to damn coach please..?.i;m tired of the dumb defense we play it sucks it dont workkkkkkkk Duuhhhh…Cover 2 only works if you can get pressure on the qb and that aint happening.my season is done for the bears my all the coaches gag.
I understand they suck but this just isn't their year.
I think next season you get Urlacher back and revamp the OL through FA. The Vikings are taking it this year.
I've got this thing and it's fucking golden!
Let's hope that they can actually re-vamp the O-line through free agency next time
And avoid the Omiyales of the world…
Actually as bad as the defense looked, I still think we should draft at least 2 O-lineman in next years’ draft. I think if the offense can be more balanced and pull it’s weight, it’ll take a lot of pressure off of the defense.
I wish the TV cameras could, or would, show replays of more than the immediate line of scrimmage.
As much as a lot of people would like to blame Turner for the playcalling, I was thinking that early in the game, Cutler wasn’t giving plays time to develop enough before he threw the checkdown pass. This was even on plays where the passrush wasn’t that bad. Also, even though I’ve been defending Jay recently on his picks, the long pass on 4th and 5 which was picked off was a terrible throw and terrible decision. His propensity for throwing off his back foot is getting a little alarming. He’s starting to look beaten out there, which is concerning. I will say, however, he showed some stones on the QB sneak over the top.
I have been criticizing Harry Heisand for years and how much the blocking scheme is him vs. Turner is a question the Bears management should be examining closely. The Bears offensive line play has been terrible for a long time.
Also, what happened to our D-Line guru? We haven’t come close to the QB in two consecutive weeks.
Was anyone else concerned that the Bears new stud D-End looked more like an oversize WR than a D-lineman? That guy is skinny!!! It looked like he was wearing his dad’s jersey for Halloween, it was so big on him and what the hell was he doing in a 4 point stance? Unless you’re at the goal line or a 4th and short, there’s no place in the NFL for that grade school crap.
Honestly
I think Jay is getting sick and tired of getting beat up, sacked on 1 per every 18 pass attempts? and that’s not even registering QB hits, or his forced scrambles.
I Tell you what, my checkdown would last all of 2 seconds… or, the amount of time he has, until a lineman is trying to kill him.
get him an even halfway decent line… and if he still performs like this, i’ll join you and say it’s alarming. but right now, I’d argue Peyton Manning would be playing dismal behind this line.
It’s pathetic.
"I'm sorry Josh, I'm with Chicago now, you need to stop calling me" -JerBear50 as Jay Cutler
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by BearNecessities on Oct 25, 2009 11:13 PM CDT up reply actions
At some point someone has to take responsibility for the performance of the line
Ron Turner has to be partially to blame. But I think Harry Heinsted has got to go. The Bears should really look into finding a better O-line coach during the off season – in addition to grading out the line position by position and evaluating where the changes need to be made.
I don’t know what happened to the Bears’ pass rush. Maybe they’ve been over-achieving this season and they just ran into 2 good O-lines now, 2 weeks in a row.
Thank you ChiFan
I agree with all of your points. I hate to say it, I like GeauxBears a lot but his 12-4 prediction may have just gone out the window. This team can finish 8-8 and that should be considered a success at this point. Lot’s of questions and holes to fill. The most frustrating part to me is, unless we pony up in free agency how can we address all our issues (LG, o-line overall, safety, CB) with our first draft pick being in the 3rd round!!!
by Sam Householder on Oct 25, 2009 11:03 PM CDT reply actions
Here is what kills me
I didn’t have my team ready to go this week.
Experience teaches you a lot and we’ve been in this spot before.
Well if we’ve been here before, and you say the experience teaches you… did you take those other games off? or shouldn’t we have learned from those games? am i missing something
"I'm sorry Josh, I'm with Chicago now, you need to stop calling me" -JerBear50 as Jay Cutler
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by BearNecessities on Oct 25, 2009 11:10 PM CDT reply actions
Anyone would think he’d been coaching this team for longer than six games…..
"The trouble with the world is that the stupid are cocksure and the intelligent are full of doubt." - Bertrand Russell
"F*** everybody outside of Halas Hall. BEARDOWN" - WavyGravy
So let me get this straight...
He said last week his defense was not prepared for the no huddle of the Flacons. This week he is saying he didn’t have his team ready to play this week.
Is it just me or is this just unacceptable. You think Belichek or Cowher or any great coach would say “I didn’t have my team ready to go this week”
Completely unacceptable.
by Chitownproduct on Oct 26, 2009 7:25 AM CDT up reply actions
yeah uhm
Are we ever gonna get an edit post key? I make a lot of these posts in the heat of the moment at work and i don’t like to sound like a 3rd grader with the grammar lol.
by Chitownproduct on Oct 26, 2009 7:26 AM CDT up reply actions
Not to say...
that Lovie isn’t partly to blame in this debacle, but I think that statement was partly a means of taking the bullet himself rather than calling out the players for some absolutely awful play.
"...the internet is not something you just dump something on. It's not a truck. It's a series of tubes." - Sen. Ted Stevens
The he should say something along the lines of
I am the Head Coach, and must take responsibility for this loss. He flat out said he did not prepare his team. Is it just me or is that just a detrimental thing to say to the open public?
It reflects badly on him and our team to say that he did not prepare his team for the game. It’s quite embarssing frankly.
by Chitownproduct on Oct 26, 2009 10:35 AM CDT up reply actions
Indeed, and to talk about learning from this experience… he’s not a fecking newbie HC!
"The trouble with the world is that the stupid are cocksure and the intelligent are full of doubt." - Bertrand Russell
"F*** everybody outside of Halas Hall. BEARDOWN" - WavyGravy
But he's never been a good media HC...
I’m not defending him here, just saying that this sort of comment isn’t out of character. It fits along the lines of “Rex is our Quarterback” and similar lovie-isms
"...the internet is not something you just dump something on. It's not a truck. It's a series of tubes." - Sen. Ted Stevens
Excellent Post Chi
The O-line is HORRIBLE!!! Ugh! Personally, I don’t think our secondary is THAT bad. I think we just had a bad game as a whole, and as you noted, the D-line isn’t doing a damn thing to help out the secondary. Very embarassing loss but we’ll move on and hopefully learn from it. Maybe this will light a fire under Lovie and the teams asses.
"The phone's for you, I think it's the Devil."
Injuries.
From the outside looking in, it seems to me as though your team has suffered a few key injuries that any team in the NFL would struggle to recover from. The loss of Urlacher, for instance, would appear to be much more than anything on paper could describe. I foresee a coaching change in your imediate future and hopefully it will be for the better; with the investment you made in Cutler and the fact that not much was done to build a foundation around him on that side of the ball, I actually figured Chicago to be a prime target for an administrative change even in the preseason. You might not have your full compliment of ammunition heading into the offseason, but if you get the right people in charge you can always find bargains with which to improve your team. You already have some pieces in place, so it’s not a lost cause and there’s no need for true rebuilding. I personally think Shanahan would be a good fit for you guys, seeing as our o-line was built under his leadership and that’s really all you need at this point. I hope you don’t mind my two cents…
"A player who conjugates a verb in the first person singular cannot be part of the squad, he has to conjugate the verb in the first person plural. We. We want to conquer. We are going to conquer. Using the word 'I' when you're in a group makes things complicated." ~ Wanderley Luxemburgo, 1999
…and there’s no need for true rebuilding
Thanks for the encouragement, but I think most of us would beg to differ. This game showed us just how much…..
"The trouble with the world is that the stupid are cocksure and the intelligent are full of doubt." - Bertrand Russell
"F*** everybody outside of Halas Hall. BEARDOWN" - WavyGravy
i just hope
the changes that might happen this year don’t end up leading to a revolving door of head coaches and personel like the Chiefs have experienced.
i think the secondary isn't the issue
its the d-line and the scheme. if you play cover 2, you are supposed to keep your man in front of you and let your d-line generate pressure. if they can’t generate any pressure, you will get killed because your man is usually open. this is the great failure of lovie…he continues to run this defense when we don’t have the personnel to do it right (namely, our front 4 can’t get to the QB). either he needs to find ways to generate pressure without blitzing, or we need to switch to more physical DB play. otherwise, any team with a decent QB and o-line will kill us, much like many have been doing for the past 2 years.
It's a combo of things
Lovie decided to go conservative on defense this week after blitzing his way to success in the previous 5 games. When the D-line doesn’t get pressure in the cover-2 it’s impossible to cover good/great receivers. Plus, not having ’Lach out there hurts more than people know, while Roach is horrible in coverage over the middle.
I don’t think the Bears secondary can afford to go man to man to often. They’re not fast enough, nor talented enough.
"Repetition is only good when you've been winning." - Valet
They do show blitz,
But drop back in coverage and still get lit up. Here I was thinking, We’re a good QB away from being successful. Now the bottom has fallen out on everything else.
the game
I would have to say that this was some of the worst football games i have seen period. To see them coming in unprepared from the start and then just not care when the game was out of reach left me sick to my stomach. At the start of the season i was very optimistic about the season, but after these 2 games i firmly believe that this team does not deserve making the playoffs. We need to keep the handful of guys, that are young and can produce on a consistent basis. the older guys who can play can help with transition, others will just need to be cut or traded. here is how i see it some core guys to keep: knox, cutler, , olson, hester, briggs. alfalava, forte, tillman, m harrison, gains (maybe), williams (maybe); guys who can help with transition: urlacher, pisa, a brown, jones, HH, kruitz, , clark, garza, o gun; guys who can go: dusty, vasher, pace, omlya (however you spell his crappy name), manning, davis, t harris, wolf, Turner, the Tampa 2.
by Bears-Bullsfan on Oct 25, 2009 11:43 PM CDT reply actions
The life has been sucked out of the team
And I dont know if you can put the blame just on the coaching staff, or injuries. I didnt want to admit it, but the fire the bears had for defense, around 05 06 07, is gone….Every1 still thinks that bc the core of those guys are still there they should be great on defense,…. but the intensity, the energy, is gone. U can blame the cover 2, u can point at ron turner. But the truth of the matter is, the bears are no different than the teams that every1 doesnt even bother to talk about being in the playoffs, much less a contender. They are finished as a unit. Every franchise gets to this point where all there is left is the rebuilding process. It will take some time, and Im sure most fans, like me, have suffered through alot of rough going seasons, smack talking co workers, and its a shame. But this is where its at. The sooner the rebuild starts, the better.
by chi_till_eye_die on Oct 26, 2009 12:01 AM CDT reply actions
Biggs graded this an F. Still seems a bit on the lenient side, to me.
"The trouble with the world is that the stupid are cocksure and the intelligent are full of doubt." - Bertrand Russell
"F*** everybody outside of Halas Hall. BEARDOWN" - WavyGravy
what was the other grade they gave in school
U or I for incomplete?
"I'm sorry Josh, I'm with Chicago now, you need to stop calling me" -JerBear50 as Jay Cutler
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by BearNecessities on Oct 26, 2009 1:06 AM CDT up reply actions
Regarding the former Bears doing well part
I’ll agree with most of it. Berrian? Good receiver for us, overpaid in FA. Colombo? Couldn’t stay healthy. Bradley and Gage? Ditto.
But Benson? Even you admit he was immature and drunk. Goddamnit, that’s exactly what a coach’s job is. To whip immature players into shape. The degeneration and loss of Benson I put on Lovie.
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by RightFieldSucks on Oct 26, 2009 12:28 AM CDT reply actions
Evaluating Bears after six games
The Bears are not very good and wouldnt be much better with Urlacher, Pisa, Kevin Jones, etc. being able to play. I agree with one of the fans this core had a chance and that window of opportunity is gone. It is time to realize that Ron Turner does suck and Lovie doesnt get them any extra wins by out coaching or motivating the team i.e. to admit you didnt have team prepared is to me a sign you should be fired. So, get a new head coach like a Shanahan or Gruden and rebuild staff, team, etc. The offensive line is horrible and by the end of the year Cutler will wish he had stayed in Denver.
I think Cutler is already wishing he was still in Denver.
"Repetition is only good when you've been winning." - Valet
This brings to mind something that has bothered me since last off-season...
Jerry Angelo’s now famous quote/position: “Guys, it starts with the quarterback. It’s all about the quarterback. You don’t win because of wide receivers. You don’t win because of running backs. You win because of the quarterback. We’ve got to get the quarterback position stabilized.”
Too many fans and media members fell for that line of crap because it was the sexy and exciting thing to say. Anyone who knows anything about football, at any level, knows it’s not so much about your skill positions as it is about your linemen. Good lineplay, on either side of the ball, is what makes teams successful and we all completely fell for this line of crap from Angelo.
Would Jay Cutler have 10 picks if he had time to sit back for 4 – 5 seconds and set his feet? Would Matt Forte be averaging 2 yards per carry if he wasn’t getting hit in the backfield 80% of the time? Would our secondary be getting beat on every seam pattern if our Front Four was in the opposing QB’s face within 2.5 seconds? Would our LB’s be out of position if they didn’t have to fake blitz on every passing down because we can’t get pressure?
Our coaching sucks and last week I said I was still on the fence with Angelo, but this thread made me go back and think about that statement and philosophy. I don’t want to get into another Jay vs. Kyle thing, but looking at Denver’s success so far, it’s the O-line giving a QB with decent skills the ability to do his job. Maybe if we would have concentrated our drafts on always improving our linemen (offensive and defensive), the skill positions would take care of themselves.
"I'm fixated with fixing the QB position"
The day he threw Kyle Orton under the bus at his press conference. A big smokescreen that was swallowed hook..line..and sinker by the media/fans.
Summed up perfectly
It starts and ends in the trenches. Now that Cutler is locked up for awhile, I can see JA getting better on the O-line by bringing in upgrades at LG, RT, and C (Beekman). The D-line is an entire different story, cause I don’t know the answer besides having a solid, young nucleus. This is was the only game where they got manhandled by the opposing line.
"Repetition is only good when you've been winning." - Valet
Not once
It is time to realize that Ron Turner does suck and Lovie doesnt get them any extra wins by out coaching or motivating the team i.e. to admit you didnt have team prepared is to me a sign you should be fired.
He admitted he didn’t have them prepared twice, back to back weeks. However, the players just stank it up on the field all day. It seemed like the offense never settled down. Jay took the snap and just seem to start running all over the place. They let the crowd totally just take them out of the game early. The coaches should of called a timeout after like the second offensive 3 and out and just settle them down. Like an earlier post said we just got beat in every single facet of the game. I will be watching like a hawk next week, i wanna see if Lovie will make this Non Prepared Hat Trick.
by Chitownproduct on Oct 26, 2009 7:42 AM CDT up reply actions
The Scheme Sucks......
If we are going to blitz thats fine as long as the blitz is not read by the Damn QB and difused by a freakin audible We as an organization need to watch film on teams that disguise the blitz well and imlpement it to our Damn team Its a copy cat league the steelers jets ravens even the cardinals know how to use the element of surprise to their advantage and on offense why not try the trick plays that miami uses with ronnie brown running the offense a quazie formation from time to time all these wrinkles keep other teams off balanced and disrupts their basic attack on our team. Come on Bears its not that hard to swallow your pride and use other teams plays for making this organization the legendary Team that it is!
that sir
is a lot of bold
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by BearNecessities on Oct 26, 2009 5:45 PM CDT up reply actions
We need an HC or a DC in the immediate future
Lovie can’t handle both. Adjustments are too slow. Example, against the Lions, moving Tillman over to cover Johnson. How long would that take an individual focused on the defense to make that change? One series? Two? But we don’t make the change until halftime. And preparation doesn’t even need to be mentioned. Doesn’t seem like we’ve had any in at least the past 3 weeks.
I’d prefer a DC but realistically what do we have to offer one? You’d be taking over an outdated scheme with personnel chosen solely to fit that system and several of the Tampa-2’s figurative fathers (Angelo, Lovie, Marinelli) still hanging around who likely are incapable of drafting for or knowing what to do with any other scheme. No real incentive for an above average DC to choose Chicago. We’re so deeply invested in the Tampa-2 on every level it would take years to rebuild.
How about both?
Since Lovie loves the Tampa 2 so much. Go to Tampa and use it there. The Lovie Smith ship has sailed. Good Bye and Good Riddance.
Great Summary
I am very anti-Ron Turner but generally was pro-Lovie Smith. These past two weeks have done a number on pushing me to “get rid of them all”. Never have I ever seen a team come out flat on a consistent weekly basis than Lovie’s teams. He seems to have no passion and the Bears every game this season have come out and thought the opponent would tackle themselves and let us walk into the endzone. If I was on the sideline, I would be fuming and waste all my fricking time outs to chew out a defense that leaves people WIDE OPEN in the end zone when we aren’t even bringing pressure. None of it makes any sense; you have to blame coaching.
you can't chew people out for playing...
where you tell them to be. it’s lovie’s fault that those WR’s are wide open, that’s the scheme.
True, they line up where they're told...
…but they don’t have to remain there for the length of the play. With some of Cincinnati’s pass completions it seemed like the secondary was just standing around watching. Whatever happened to “swarming the ball”?
Actually, he did chew out the defense during the game...
…according to a report from the sideline reporter during the radio broadcast.
Bengals fan here
Listen, as a Bengals fan I know from where I speak, and you can be excused for feeling like the world is coming to an end regarding the Bears. Here in Cincy many fans lived theu years of frustration and the jury is still out on this team as well. Hell even with a 3 TD lead going into the 2nd half I was worried that they were going to blow it. We lived thru a couple of rebuilding years where we became, well, the joke of the NFL. You know this. We lived thru it and piece by piece we put together a decent team again. I know it is hard to hear this but IMO you guys need to step back and build a core of younger players mixed with a few seasoned veterans and bring in talent over a couple years rather than hope to fix things in one big set of moves. IMO Cutler’s contract was a bit premature. His big contract was based on past performances and not how he fits in his new team, Most successful teams are built from the outside in. Particularly on offense. You need to start with the Oline. I am an OSU grad and love Pace but he was being pushed back into the pocket constantly. You also need to forget the notion that small and fast is a substitute for big on the Oline. Yea a smaller lineman or twi can work but only if he is bookended with 320lb big guys with talent. It is a simple matter of physics.
Be patient Lovie is a good coach but he seems to have fallen into a pattern and needs to truly rebuild rather than try quick fixes. You will never build a great team that way. It will take a couple of painful years but it will be worth it. The Bears are a great organization and I have a lot of respect for them and I am sure they will get back to the top. But it will take time. Remember, sometimes a real beatdown is a good thing as it opens peoples eyes and stops people from lying to themselves. I hope you guys can man up as we need you to beat the Ravens for us. Good luck and don’t get down too much on yourselves or the team. Things will get better.
" My enemy said "Love your enemy". I obeyed and loved myself." Gibran
You also need to forget the notion that small and fast is a substitute for big on the Oline
Ditto for up the middle on the Dline.
"The trouble with the world is that the stupid are cocksure and the intelligent are full of doubt." - Bertrand Russell
"F*** everybody outside of Halas Hall. BEARDOWN" - WavyGravy
I like Bengals fans
more and more everyday, thanks
"I'm sorry Josh, I'm with Chicago now, you need to stop calling me" -JerBear50 as Jay Cutler
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by BearNecessities on Oct 26, 2009 1:43 PM CDT up reply actions
I did forget to add......
You guys aren’t out of it yet. You are 3 & 3. Hell. In Cincy we consider that a good thing. The Texans came into Cincy and put a real whipping on us and the Bengals used it as motivation to ….. well….. take it to you hard. I am not writting the Bears off yet.
" My enemy said "Love your enemy". I obeyed and loved myself." Gibran
Actually I'm just gonna give credit where it's due...
My brother and I went to the game. Other than two jerk offs a couple of rows behind us (whom Bengal fans didn’t seem too impressed with as well). We were treated very well. Nothing more than friendly fire… Hat’s off to the folks around us. Who-Dey!
and as was brought up in a Cutler/Orton debate
the Bucs fans haven’t been over here bashing us for Gaines Adams either… really nice of them
"I'm sorry Josh, I'm with Chicago now, you need to stop calling me" -JerBear50 as Jay Cutler
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by BearNecessities on Oct 27, 2009 1:42 PM CDT up reply actions
To be fair,
These are Bengals we’re talking about… If it wasn’t for OchoCinco’s HOF jacket celebration a few years ago, they wouldn’t have known that there is a HOF. ;-)
Let's Face It
Jerry Angelo hasn’t a clue on how to build an offensive line. Why as Denver’s new coach been able to be so successful? It’s because the old coach left him with on of the best offensive lines in the league. Look we have heroes, a quality running back, good receivers,good tight ends, and a potential top tier QB, however what we need is a “lunch pail” offensive line. It’s obvious other teams let our free agent offensive line signings go for a reason. Of course I also agree with coach Ditka, "running the ball is all about “want to”".
"Sometimes I wonder whether the world is being run by smart people who are putting us on or by imbeciles who really mean it." - Mark Twain
I'm on board with Firing Lovie Smith
Not only should Lovie be let go at the end of the season, but Jerry Angelo need to bite the dust as well. We fans have evidences that this coaching staff can’t take advantage of talented players on Offense. We bring in Cutler and he plays like Orton did when he was the Bears QB. And obviously, Benson (few others) hasn’t change his running style. He just have a running game to take advantage of his skill sets. Angelo and coaches are so focus on Defense they ignored the deterioration of the Offense line since 2005 when Jones posted back to back 1000yds seasons. Now when Matt Forte leaves he will be more affective on a team with a better, bigger offensive line. But what upsets me is that with our 2nd round pick next year, Angelo invested more on the defensive side of the ball.
If not Lovie...
than they need to hire a DC to call the plays and/or hire a better OC thats more creative than run on 1st down everytime after we get a 1st down that gets us less than 2 yds. Either way, these 2 things need to be addressed, if Lovie isnt goin anywhere
hire a better OC thats more creative than run on 1st down
The Bears throw the ball 60% of the time on 1st down.
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Just because it can be done on Madden NFL does not automatically make it a viable option in real life.
Lovie and Turner Have to Go
After several years there should be no more on the job training. The players have lost confidence and it is time for a change. Angelo should be right out the door behind them. Maybe Jeff Fisher would want to return to the team he played for. Now that would be progress.
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To specify..I don’t think most of those people who left turned out that well..it’s just some annoying thing that whenever WE play them they have huge games..it’s so strange. And I still think benson is only good this year because he knows he’s in his final contract year. After that’s done he’ll fall back into his immature laziness.
R.K. "The Bears fan"
Hey Bears fans,
We stink! Our defensive backs can’t cover a dead body, we can’t tackle, and we are poorly coached. I give Lovie Smith credit for the Super Bowl run in 06 but we have beeen on a decline since. We have some talent, but we need a lot of work. Don’t get your hopes up this year, we will be lucky if we win 8 games.

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