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Why The Defense Has Collapsed

Firstly, we all knew coming into this season that the defense was a huge question mark.

It took 5 games of mediocre play, a couple more injuries and now we can see it clearly-- they are as bad as many feared they might be.

Why?

1. System
2. Strength/Size vs. Speed
3. Personnel
4. Injury

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The system is broken. Nearly any NFL team with a half way decent QB and offensive coordinator can see the holes that exist in the Tampa 2. We get exploited week in and week out with the underneath routes and we simply have no answer for it. Once the offense is able to establish a running game, which happened VERY quickly today, that issue is accentuated further.

Our defense players, from DBs to LBs to "rushmen" are, quite frankly, small and weak. Yes, they are athletic and fast but the unit completely lacks the mass and power needed to compete in today's league. Nearly ever #1 receiver today is tall and strong-- we have nobody in the secondary who can man-handle them. Our linebackers are not strong--they're fast but they don't have the force and power needed in so many aspects of the game like covering big tight ends or getting in front of power backs or shaking off blocks from tight ends or athletic tackles. And, finally, our dline-- well, they are pipsqueaks. Tall, lanky, speedy, skinny guys who simply don't have the power to win in the trenches. We were totally exploited there today by a massive O line.

 


The average quality of the unit's personnel isn't half bad but that is because the entire unit (backups and starters) are comprised of just that-- average personnel. Games are won by play-makers and aside from Briggs and maybe P-Nut, we really don't have any. You can get by with starters like Afalava or Roach or Anthony Adams or Bowman or Alex Brown-- they are completely serviceable players. In fact, they are great complimentary guys to a unit that has play-makers. But we don't have them anymore.

 


Which leads me to my next point: injuries. We used to have them but Urlacher, M. Brown, Harris, Vasher (yes, he was once a real play-maker) are all gone-- mostly due to injuries. Even Pisa showed some signs in pre-season of being a difference maker and he's gone too.

So, ask yourself, is it really surprising that our D performed this way today when we are running a system which any team in the league (that has even a slight capability to execute) can expose? When our team which is built without strength and power and goes up against an offense that is ALL about strength and power? When we completely lack playmakers? When nearly all of our best playmakers are gone or forgotten?

I think not.

So, the question is: How do we rebuild?

Rest assured, Lovie, Angel and Rod (three guys who all bring the exact same thing to the table--familiarity with the Tampa 2 defense) are not going to change the system so as long as they're here, and they WILL be here next year, we're not going to change the defensive scheme.

Instead, the Bears need to look at personnel and I believe it all starts up the middle: Under Tackle, MIKE and a great safety. We have none of the above anymore. All three lost to injuries (Harris, Url and M. Brown.)

We'll have Url back next year but let's face it, he has one maybe two seasons left in him. Unfortunately, we have no option but to rely on him next year as there are just too many other holes on this team to think about replacing him for the 2010 season.

AT DT, Harris needs to be replaced. Is Harrison the guy? Is Gilbert the guy? We need to find out the rest of this season if one of them can take Tommie's role-- so let's just bench Tommie now and if we make a run in Dec, we can see if his knee has heeled up enough to give him a shot at some playing time in the post season. Either way, we have to let him go in the off-season

Same thing at Safety. We have no choice but to give Afalava and Manning the rest of this season to see if they develop further but right now, they are  just serviceable players. My only suggestion is to keep Manning at Free Safety full time and let Graham play NB.  Afalava looks OK-- kind of like the way  Orton looked OK: he's  not going to get beat too bad, won't miss too many tackles but he's not going to blow you away either. If we don't see one of these two developing into real play-makers in the next 10 games, and it doesn't look good at this point, then we'll absolutely need to go into free agency with an eye on a real veteran safety. Look at what B Dawk has done for Devner.

Best case scenario is that one each of the 3 Technique candidates and one of the safety candidates step up and become difference makers. If that were to happen, we could spend free agency looking at other needs: OL, OL, OL, RB, CB, WR, MLB. If not, we'll  have to address those positions somehow after we work on the o line.

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Nice breakdown

Something I wondered when Urlacher was lost for the season: in our version of the cover-2, the MIKE drops back and sits in front of the safeties, I believe. It worked with #54 because of his exceptional (for a MLB) range, but are we still running the same scheme with HH/Roach and expecting them to do the same?

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by Spongie on Oct 26, 2009 12:10 AM CDT reply actions  

Roach has been terrible in coverage

and has no idea on how to backpeddle effectively.

"Repetition is only good when you've been winning." - Valet

by propheteer on Oct 26, 2009 8:38 PM CDT up reply actions  

Maybe he could learn

from the D & O – lines. They seem to have perfected the backpeddle…

by rdent4hof on Oct 27, 2009 8:26 AM CDT up reply actions  

Nice!

I think you’re on to something.

"Repetition is only good when you've been winning." - Valet

by propheteer on Oct 27, 2009 10:25 AM CDT up reply actions  

Prior to today's debacle

the Bears gave up 99 points in 5 games. This after losing Urlacher early in game one. (After five games last season they had given up 87 points).

99 points in five games averages out to 20 points per game.

That would have placed them at #10 in points allowed last season, 30 points better than what they actually were (when they were ranked #16).

Today’s game was a complete debacle on defense, both from a coaching standpoint and an execution standpoint.

by GeoMak on Oct 26, 2009 12:22 AM CDT reply actions  

also, Bowman is not the answer at CB, sure he’s athletic, but he just looks lost out there. outmatched

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by BearNecessities on Oct 26, 2009 1:01 AM CDT reply actions  

Scrabble.

If I could just hold onto Cutler, I’d throw the rest of the team away and pull myself out a new one. Couldn’t be any worse than the crap that turned up in Cincinatti.

by Irish Bears Fan on Oct 26, 2009 2:05 AM CDT reply actions  

Gould

would stay. maybe Hester and Briggs.

by Cosmis on Oct 31, 2009 7:45 PM CDT up reply actions  

I don't disagree with anything you've said, but

when you put it all together it still points to one thing, bad coaching. I say that because this staff cannot make adjustments whether it’s on the fly during a game or when injuries take players down. How often have we heard Lovie say “when one goes down, the next guy has to step up”? Obviously, that’s true but the next guy in line is rarely another Urlacher or another Briggs, etc. It’s on the coaching staff to have a plan in place where if a starter goes down, especially a Pro Bowl caliber starter, that you know what those adjustments should be without taking half a season to do so. It’s called game planning and it’s called using the tools that are available to you. My impression is that Lovie is so stubborn with his system, that he will force square pegs into round holes to make his point.

Unfortunately, I don’t see a quick fix here since, as you pointed out, our team is built around his system and the system doesn’t work. If you jetisoned the whole coaching staff today, the incoming group still has the same pieces to work with. I agree with you that we need some better size and strength in the front 7, but even more than that we need a coach who will hold individuals accountable and if that takes benching guys on national TV to make a point, then so be it. The lack of tackling and blocking in training camp and practices has always bothered me, and from our injury record, it doesn’t seem that it’s doing anything to keep players healthier anyway. Lovie preaches that his staff are “teachers”, well somebody better “teach” him how to be a Head Coach.

by BearFan611 on Oct 26, 2009 7:46 AM CDT reply actions  

so we

go after shawn merriman in the FA next year and boot the whole coaching staff..it is clear that the tampa 2 is gone like the old 46 formation. we need to get some new bodies or use some of the talent in other ways. sign derrick brooks. this is pathetic we gave up 189 to the dumbass from texas who coudldnt do anything but be a bum in chicago and get arrested several times for being an alcoholic? seriously what happened to my bears

Bring back our honey bears...sick and tired of hearing about the dallas cowboy cheerleaders and the bars they go work at when they quit. cold weather + cheerleaders in skimpy outfits = lots of fun

by tomh115 on Oct 26, 2009 9:02 AM CDT reply actions  

hmmm

interesting. seeing shawn merriman in a bears uniform would be interesting. He’s more of a 3-4 LB, but i could see him solidifying the SLB position that’s been a revolving door the last couple of years.

by Nih1lus on Oct 26, 2009 9:09 AM CDT up reply actions  

or dare i say

groom him to be urlacher’s heir?

by Nih1lus on Oct 26, 2009 9:09 AM CDT up reply actions  

and get

dennis green to coach haha

Bring back our honey bears...sick and tired of hearing about the dallas cowboy cheerleaders and the bars they go work at when they quit. cold weather + cheerleaders in skimpy outfits = lots of fun

by tomh115 on Oct 26, 2009 11:20 AM CDT up reply actions  

Merriman

Since he’s not gooned on the juice anymore, he’s been less effective and more prone to injuries. I don’t see him as a good option for the Bears.

"Chance favors the prepared mind." - Pasteur

by Maelvampyre on Oct 26, 2009 11:28 AM CDT up reply actions  

but is he better than what we have in stock

and the answer is yes

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by tomh115 on Oct 26, 2009 1:49 PM CDT up reply actions  

I don't know if he is better

But I do know that if he isn’t a LOT better then it isn’t worth it.

"Chance favors the prepared mind." - Pasteur

by Maelvampyre on Oct 27, 2009 2:29 PM CDT up reply actions  

Merriman is having an awful year

To say he’s a shadow of the player he was in his first 3 years is a collosal understatement. I live in SD and he is now constantly bothered by injuries that didn’t exist his first couple years. Steroids allow the body to recover and without them he is just another guy.

He would be horrible in the Bears scheme. He’s a rusher with no coverage skills and he can’t even rush anymore. He’ll be out of the league in 3 years unless he figures out how to get juiced again and recovers from the knee. Not a good guy to gamble on. He’ll probably find a home in DC.

by Duck99 on Oct 27, 2009 4:27 PM CDT up reply actions  

No way, this guy is a stiff

1 sack? Injuries and a lack of juice. Any team that takes a flyer on Merriman for big money is a fool.

This guy’s lights….are OUT.

by San Diego Smooth Jazz Man on Nov 8, 2009 1:03 PM CST up reply actions  

I would say..

the Tampa Two, being run out of 4-3 defense is pretty much dead. The 4-3 is pretty much dead. Most teams have found 3-4 zone blitzing away better way to attack the high power offensives. The Steelers, the Pats, the Broncos and several others are now running a 3-4 or a hybrid of it. It is time for the Bears to change. The current personnel might work, moving Tommy Harris and Oli/Brown to DE and Adams as the NT, while putting Roach and Briggs in the MLB and HH and Adams as OLB.

This might work if we had the coachs who could run it.

That’s not true!!! WHY THE F*CK WOULD YOU SAY THAT YOU AHOLE!! Ok maybe your right but you gotta give a little something here for it to work. I don’t know what I’m going to do this is the worst thing I’ve ever read, this day could not get any worse. Fine, F*ck it, you’re right.

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by gaclaudy on Oct 26, 2009 10:30 AM CDT reply actions  

+1

The personnel you need for the 3 – 4 is easier and cheaper to get for your linebackers…the linemen are the trouble for that kind of switch…but it is totally doable with some of what you have.

"Precipitation, which side are you on?
Are you on the rise? Are you falling down?
Let me know, Come on let's go, yeah
Got some if you need it!" -EV

by sadaraine on Oct 28, 2009 1:27 AM CDT up reply actions  

i agree

You’re right and glad you said it.
It’s harder to find good linemen that it is good linebackers, and by good I mean elite.
That is why the Steelers have had the 3-4 since the multiple SB days.
Nothing wrong with the 4-3 but you have to have those down linemen be damn good to make the rest work well.

"Chance favors the prepared mind." - Pasteur

by Maelvampyre on Oct 28, 2009 1:47 PM CDT up reply actions  

Yup

See NY Giants past few years…who wouldn’t die to have a 4 – 3 with their talent / depth at D-Line???

"Precipitation, which side are you on?
Are you on the rise? Are you falling down?
Let me know, Come on let's go, yeah
Got some if you need it!" -EV

by sadaraine on Oct 28, 2009 2:31 PM CDT up reply actions  

It's about pressure.

The Tampa-2, or Bear-2, as Lovie calls it, starts with the front seven.
Our linemen stink. Harris has been awful and while Ogunleye had a semi-revival after feasting on Barber from Green Bay, he’s back to being bad. Brown is a decent combo end, who does nice work against the run and pass, but like the OP said, he’s a good player when alongside a star. None of our nose tackles have been good, none of them.

At LB, we’re shallow and bad. I’ve always known Urlacher was good(who hasn’t?), but this seasons has made it clear how effing valuable he is to this team. He’s phenomenal and among the best pass coverage linebackers in the history of the game. Roach doesn’t know what he’s doing out there. Briggs is still the man, but a defense’s best player can not be an outside linebacker.

Watching this team continue to use this scheme with this personnel is like watching a fly continuously bump into the same glass window. It’s just being stupid and not learning from the mistake. This coaching staff is incompetent, and seeing how this team is prepared less often than not, it bothers me to no end that this staff will probably be here through next year, even with the bumper crop of available coaches this offseason. Shanahan, Cowher, Gruden, Holmgren, etc. I’d be ecstatic to have any one of them.

Metal sharpens metal.

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by dakoose on Oct 26, 2009 1:42 PM CDT reply actions  

Olin Kreutz for nose tackle

by DaHamsta on Oct 26, 2009 3:41 PM CDT reply actions  

Good post!

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~Earl Warren

by lookingdeadred on Oct 26, 2009 4:24 PM CDT reply actions  

How can Tommy Harris Be to blame for the Cincinatti Game???

He didn’t play. In fact, the games he has played in, including vs good QB/WR/RB tandems in Pittsburg and GB, it wasn’t the Defense we came out complaining about. I just don’t get this logic of reacting to a really poor defensive effort in which Harris did not play by calling for a replacement for the three technique. WTF????

by DisCUBbobulated on Oct 26, 2009 5:15 PM CDT reply actions  

Say what you want about Tommie Harris

People want him gone because he hasnt gotten back to his form from 2005 and 2006 hes only 26! if he gets cut hell go to a team like the saints or dare i say the Viqueens and become the replacment for pat williams.
he didnt play on sunday and for the first time all year and we got shredded on the ground i know one man doesnt make the defense but he can sure help. Harris is our best all around lineman and we need him on the field because harrison isnt there yet and gilbert isnt getting on the field. The whole team will look alot better sunday one reason being we play clevland

by Bear Lovin 21 on Oct 26, 2009 9:49 PM CDT reply actions  

i really believe deep down

that Harris’ injury is probably permanent. obviously thats my opinion, but i really doubt TH comes back in any major way, if at all

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by BearNecessities on Oct 26, 2009 10:00 PM CDT up reply actions  

it could be

i hope it isnt because when healthy he was flat out dominant but that seems like ages ago

by Bear Lovin 21 on Oct 26, 2009 10:40 PM CDT up reply actions  

a lot of people forget

that even in 06 when he was reaching his dominance, he ended up not playing a lot. so really i dont know that he was ever on his game for a full season…we took a high round flyer, and he was injury prone, it happens

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by BearNecessities on Oct 26, 2009 11:47 PM CDT up reply actions  

in 2007 after the super bowl

he came out and did really well with 8 sacks i think his health is holding him back by no means is he a bust or anything two time pro bowler with four solid seasons

by Bear Lovin 21 on Oct 27, 2009 7:09 AM CDT up reply actions  

of course it's permanent

But the question is can he play effectively with pain and the verdict so far is no.

"Chance favors the prepared mind." - Pasteur

by Maelvampyre on Oct 28, 2009 1:49 PM CDT up reply actions  

His knees are 92, that's the problem

Harris is not a stud player, and it isd very unlikely he will ever be one again. At best he is a solid tackle, but I am not sure he is even that anymore. His whole game was q

I always turn to the sports section first. The sports page records people's accomplishments; the front page has nothing but man's failures.
~Earl Warren

by lookingdeadred on Oct 27, 2009 12:39 PM CDT up reply actions  

oooops

last sentence should read, His whole game was quickness and quick he is not anymore.

I always turn to the sports section first. The sports page records people's accomplishments; the front page has nothing but man's failures.
~Earl Warren

by lookingdeadred on Oct 27, 2009 12:41 PM CDT up reply actions  

Harris is done being an impact player in the NFL

His knee can no longer be repaired according to the experts — AND — he has an apparent aversion to learning how to play thru pain.

"Cubs will win 79 to 83 games." BLou (7/21/09)

by BLou on Oct 27, 2009 9:11 PM CDT up reply actions  

The D

We need to pry Mike Nolan away from Denver next season, switch to the 3-4 and sign Elvis Dumervil. Lofa Tatupu, DeMarco Ryan, Shawn Merriman, Derrick Johnson are all also free agents.

by boondock_saint812 on Oct 27, 2009 11:20 AM CDT reply actions  

what?

1. yes mike nolan would be nice… but he JUST signed with Denver, so that whole theory won’t happen
2. Dummervil is going to command a ginormous contract with whoever he signs with
3. i’m for it, but we won’t be switching to a 3-4 anytime soon, and most of those LBs you just listed, are for a 3-4 set, and also Merriman is not the same off the juice

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by BearNecessities on Oct 27, 2009 1:58 PM CDT up reply actions  

Yeah maybe we can sign

Tom Brady and Peyton Manning while we are at…

Roach love the run stuffin', but don't forget about the TE over the middle!!
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by tfrabotta on Oct 28, 2009 4:12 PM CDT up reply actions  

LOL

"Precipitation, which side are you on?
Are you on the rise? Are you falling down?
Let me know, Come on let's go, yeah
Got some if you need it!" -EV

by sadaraine on Oct 28, 2009 4:41 PM CDT up reply actions  

Free Agents

I never said we could sign them all. Just pointing out that they are free agents next year. Urlacher is getting older and skills are diminishing. Oh, and Roach and Williams are both free agents. So we’ve got to do something about the linebackers next year.

No need to be a dick.

by boondock_saint812 on Oct 28, 2009 4:52 PM CDT up reply actions  

i agree with your strategy

but they are all high priced free agents and with the money we have tied up in briggs and urlacher, with a healthy Pisa, it should not be a great area of need. Depth maybe.

Roach love the run stuffin', but don't forget about the TE over the middle!!
- "Original WCG Power Poster!"

by tfrabotta on Oct 28, 2009 5:05 PM CDT up reply actions  

Sorry..

didn’t mean to be a dick..just that we have bigger needs..

Roach love the run stuffin', but don't forget about the TE over the middle!!
- "Original WCG Power Poster!"

by tfrabotta on Oct 29, 2009 1:25 PM CDT up reply actions  

The defense is a clusterfu*k

The Cover-2 is rapidly becoming an outdated scheme. But Lovie and Angelo are invested up to their eyeballs in the Cover-2 working, plus the majority of Bear defenders currently on the roster are ill-suited for a shift to a 3-4 defense (which is all the rage) or the more conventional 4-3.

So what do you do?!? The holes on this defense are massive…and growing.

"Cubs will win 79 to 83 games." BLou (7/21/09)

by BLou on Oct 27, 2009 9:08 PM CDT reply actions  

step 1 is get a top notch under tackle

when harris was healthy, he compensated for the mediocrity on the d-line – we got a ton of pressure on QBs in 2005 and 2006. he ’ain’t that anymore. if we stay cover-2, we absolutely must generate pressure up front without blitzing like crazy. a dominant DT helps, as does a top pass rusher. wale is paid like one, but he isn’t. maybe rod can do his magic and turn gaines adams into rice version 2.0. that, along with better DTs (i’m convinced harris is done as a dominant player, and think he should be cut in the offseason) could actually salvage the cover 2. but anything short of that means our D will get shredded by offenses with decent QBs and decent o-lines.

by guy incognito on Oct 27, 2009 11:32 PM CDT up reply actions  

Why has the defense collapsed ?

Uh … injury …. poor drafting & roster management … the fact that it was four years ago … so I guess, entropy …. duh.

by Irish Bears Fan on Oct 28, 2009 3:17 AM CDT reply actions  

I think the Kaiser’s post offers more valuable information than your comment.

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by Spongie on Oct 28, 2009 2:28 PM CDT up reply actions  

or more value than

anything I’ve ever seen IBF contribute, for that matter.

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by David Taylor on Oct 29, 2009 10:19 PM CDT up reply actions  

Please don't throw Alex Brown into this conversation

one of our consistent playmakers and he and briggs are the soul of the defense after Mike Brown left..

Roach love the run stuffin', but don't forget about the TE over the middle!!
- "Original WCG Power Poster!"

by tfrabotta on Oct 28, 2009 4:14 PM CDT reply actions   1 recs

Defense needs a near-complete overhaul

When Alex Brown is rightfully considered your best defensive lineman then you know you have big problems up front. I like Brown a lot, but bottom line he is a plugger type who gives maximum effort and nothing more.

Marcus Harrison? His production has been a joke and I fail to see the wondrous improvement in his development.

Anthony Adams? A journeyman who has performed to the level of his abilities.

Israel Idonije? He’s forever been a project. But when do we start seeing some tantalizing results???

Adewale Ogunleye? I hate the guy. He’s milked one standout year in Miami into a career. I’ll be glad when he is a goner.

Mark Anderson? See Ogunleye above. He’s undersized and rubbed out on virtually every play he is involved in.

Jarron Gilbert? Who knows.

Josh Bullocks? Awful.

Nathan Vasher? Awful. He has done zero since the end of the 2006 season.

Peanut Tillman? The best we have in the secondary by a mile, but he is showing a lot of wear and tear. At least for the time being I prefer to think OchoCinco didn’t really do all of that against Peanut.

Kevin Payne? A journeyman. Nothing more.

Craig Steltz? The token bad white guy safety.

Brian Urlacher? Next year is his 11th in the league. Pinched nerve, bad back, very serious wrist injury, 3 or 4 paternity suits filed against him every month….can you say retirement announcement coming soon.

Lance Briggs? Far and away the best thing this defense has. He is a Ferrari parked next to a bunch of Chevy Malibus on this defense.

"Cubs will win 79 to 83 games." BLou (7/21/09)

by BLou on Oct 29, 2009 10:28 PM CDT reply actions  

Didn't he wrap his Ferrari around a tree pole a couple years ago?

That’s not true!!! WHY THE F*CK WOULD YOU SAY THAT YOU AHOLE!! Ok maybe your right but you gotta give a little something here for it to work. I don’t know what I’m going to do this is the worst thing I’ve ever read, this day could not get any worse. Fine, F*ck it, you’re right.

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by gaclaudy on Oct 31, 2009 5:14 PM CDT up reply actions  

Lambo

but same difference… and then, with no alcohol in his system, walked away from it before the cops came.

"Hey, the offensive linemen are the biggest guys on the field, they're bigger than everybody else, and that's what make them the biggest guys on the field." -Madden

by BearNecessities on Nov 2, 2009 5:52 PM CST up reply actions  

Cover 2 and other zone defenses

The Bears are not disguising it. You can play cover 2 in the nickle or dime and still have man coverage on a key reciever.

You can play bend but don’t break, but you can also play an aggressive zone defense, where you jump the route. This is an instinctual play, you have to bait the QB and receiver a little. Give him a look, where your zone is open, but as soon as a receiver enters it, you have to cover him. If he continues to run, then you let him go and stay in your area and LOOK for someone else coming into your zone.

Too many times our corners, and LB’s just stand there. They are not sliding into the route, till its too late. This leads to 1)pressure on the QB (as he is uncertain if a zone defender is going to jump the route, and he will hold the ball longer), 2) incompletions and 3) interceptions

So I don’t think the defense is broken, as its really a basic zone. Are all zones broken? Even 3-4 teams run it at times. The players are not executing it properly during crucial plays. Esp. our LB’s. They are horrible at diagnosing routes, esp. TE and Backs who are always open as our LB’s stand and watch. Even Briggs is actually average in coverage.

Hunter has 1 career pick
Briggs has 10 6+ seasons
Urlacher has 17 in 9 seasons, 5 in 1 year

Our LB’s get less than 2 picks a year. Think about that. Horrible.

by Trey23 on Oct 31, 2009 10:23 PM CDT reply actions  

Too many times our corners, and LB’s just stand there

And safeties. The Bengals game was brutal viewing.

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"F*** everybody outside of Halas Hall. BEARDOWN" - WavyGravy

by Spongie on Nov 1, 2009 3:33 AM CDT up reply actions  

it because we as a defense

don’t ever press cover to disrupt timing, even in 05/06, we relied on pressure up front, so the corner could run along with the route, never to jam the line and disrupt the timing to allow a crossing corner, lb, or safety to drop in and pick the ball off.

"Hey, the offensive linemen are the biggest guys on the field, they're bigger than everybody else, and that's what make them the biggest guys on the field." -Madden

by BearNecessities on Nov 2, 2009 5:54 PM CST up reply actions  

Poor evaluators of talent....

Even during the Pats defense rebuilding years they’re still competitive http://sports.espn.go.com/boston/news/story?id=4602995. Another team that’s great at producing quality teams year in year out is the Steelers, they keep plugging in Football Players.

by Vancity Bear Fan on Nov 2, 2009 7:35 PM CST reply actions  

Why the defense has collapsed part deaux?

Part trois coming to a stadium near you.

People who don’t care don’t respond, and people who do care do respond. Does that make sense Bronco fans trying to validate the trade?

by propheteer on Nov 8, 2009 8:53 PM CST reply actions  

vocal leader

anybody noticed that since Urlacher has been out it seems like when the offence audibles to a different play they (the D) just look around and wait for the snap where as before when Urlacher was there the offence audibled Urlacher would audible to something maybe not all the time but a hell of a lot more than they are now and they just arent vocal it seems its like noone wants to tell someone to get in there spot bcs they dont want their teammates to hate them

by VIBEAR on Nov 8, 2009 9:36 PM CST reply actions  

Still Holds True

I’d say that the evidence is in again that the fundamental issues oulined in the original post hold true:

1. System: The failure of the system was highlighted today by the Bears complete inability to stop the Cards on 3rd down. Again we see that any half-way decent QB (or any QB not named Anderson/Brady) can easily pick apart the Bears cover 2/Tampa 2 in passing situations.

2. Strength: The only time you’ll see the Bears capable of getting stops in 3rd down situations is when there is an adequate pass rush. Again, our front 7 (especially the d linemen) are too small and weak to get the push needed against the o line. So, with adequate blitz pickups by the backs, a QB like Warner has all day in the pocket to pick apart our soft cover defense. We need more muscle on this team!

3. Personnel: We lost a lot of players today— Harris, Afalava, Tillman and HH for a few plays. Did we see a major drop off? No (excpet possibly in the case of Harris.) The reason for that is that the depth behind those starters is not much different that the starters themselves. Payne for Afalava is a minor drop off. Bowman/Graham and/or Bowman/Vasher is not really that different from Bowman/Tillman. Our team is comprised of a bunch of average to above averate players that run two and three deep at each position. We lack play-makers. Although this depth serves us well on special teams (usually) it is a majore weakness of the defense in general.

4. Injuries: Again. Our playmakers are gone: Url, Harris, Pisa. Is there any question about how badly the Bears miss Urlacher? Not just as a playmaker but as a vocal leader of this squad and the face of the Bears D.

Recommendation:

I’m not of the belief that the only answer is to blow up this defense and send Lovie packing with it. Nobody is untouchable on this squad: Not Tillman, not Briggs, not nobody. We have so much invested in the defense (Head Coachd, Asst. Head Coach, Salary Cap, Draft picks, etc) but there is absolutely no sign that it will improve.

Our Offense will get better and better next year but the defense needs a total overhaul via trades, drafts, contract restructuring and painful cuts. Not sure if we can pull a ‘Denver’ next year but we need to try. Otherwise we’re looking at possibly building a decent squad in 2011.

by The Kaiser on Nov 8, 2009 10:26 PM CST reply actions  

Correction:

Under “Recommendation” I meant to write, I am NOW of the belief that the only answer is to blow up this defense and send Lovie packing. (I mistakenly wrote, “I am NOT of the belief…”

by The Kaiser on Nov 8, 2009 10:29 PM CST up reply actions  

good post

There is not a lot to work with on the defensive side of the ball. There are, when healthy, three high quality LBs (Urlacher, Briggs and Pisa) and an emerging SS (Afalava), but that is about it.

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~Earl Warren

by lookingdeadred on Nov 9, 2009 1:58 PM CST up reply actions  

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