Solution- Rod Marinelli will coach them better. Result- against a team with a decent line no pressure. Same problem- which means the solution did not fix the problem. Rod can only coach them so much, like GB said wrong personel for the scheme means scheme doesn’t work. So my question is what scheme will work for the players we have?

is the best player on our D with Alfalava a close second. Briggs was running around trying to make plays all day yesterday. I am really starting to lean towards wanting a coaching change, but that could just be two losses in a row talking more than any thing.

over rated.

The Bengals are a good team. They are not 45-10 better than the Bears. Lovie said it and he says every time after a loss. “I did not have this team ready to play football”. HELLO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! YOU ARE THE F***ING HEAD COACH!!!!!!!!!! WHAT DO YOU MEAN YOU DIDN"T HAVE THEM READY?!!!!!!!!!!!!! Lovie needs to go and this team will continue to be shit on a stick until he’s gone.

this sums up what the defense was like Sunday …

at times, the D looked completely lost out there. Benson ran downhill all game. running through tackles, around tackles, between the tackles … and where is the damn pass rush? no push up the middle and nothing on the edges.

the secondary – what secondary? half the time we’ve got one guy playing man, and three guys playing zone and Chris Henry wide open in the end zone. Ochocinco would just run to the soft spot and Palmer would find him easily. Bowman, Vasher, Tillman all looked extremely bad out there. Manning just isn’t good enough – at anything.

and where were the mid-game adjustments. any adjustments! just do something Lovie. anything. half the time he looks completely stunned out there with the headset on. as if he thought the Bengals would just go out there and pound the ball up the middle three times and settle for a punt or field goal. it was awful watching this defense just get completely owned yesterday. it was friggin pathetic.

One of the reasons that we are blaming the coaching staff for one, is the complete and ignorant faith in the gelling of the offensive line. What crack are they smoking? The Bengals destroyed us on both sides of the line but for the most part destroyed our offensive line worse than they’re Oline destroyed our D-line. Cutler was on his back the entire game. Olsen got benched because he couldn’t block on the line of scrimmage (psst The Bears know Olsen is not a good blocker and they still continued to let him get manhandled play after play).Honestly, just looking at the state of the offensive line, how does this not scream coaching malfunction to you? Why do we have to continue to swallow it up and not complain.

Lovies, Our Offensive Line will be fine crap is not gonna cut it this time, just like Rex is our QB didn’t cut last time.

To rephrase the first paragraph when i said our Oline was worse than our D line…i have to correct that, they were both equally utter trash. Sometimes the D line has showed signs but the O line in my opinion is completely worthless and needs an overhaul. How about, we put Omilaye in his natural position, put in Beekman in guard, bench Pace and start Williams at Left and Omiyale at right. Even if it doesn’t work..it could. Why have we not seen something..anything..i don’t care i just wanna see something!

are awful. The D line and O line are both way undersized versus what the Bengals brought to the table. Even if Pace and Omayale were still good, they’d have been tossed around anyway.

I have to admit watching the whole game with a crooked smile. I had a feeling the Bengals were going to come out passionate and that the Bears would play tired.

Benson looked good, and although I think he’s still a douche, he played with a chip on his shoulder. He also looks like he does nothing but weight train and shoot roids. It took unemployment to make him grow up, but he’s doing what he’s got to do. I still hate him, but I can’t fault him for walking all over us.

I sure as hell miss Urlacher.

I’m not sure what the Bears have done in practice over the past three weeks, cause it sure looks like Lovie ran some sort of Club Med since before the bye week. No passion from the players, no new adjustments from the coaches or game-plans (seemingly), and a regression across the board with the exceptions of Hester (first 100yd game as a WR), Briggs, and AA. No coaches job should be safe after this disheartening of a loss. The players look like they gave up on Lovie, or “something” before this game.

Granted they stunk it up, but when you are trailing by 21 points and the game just got going, I think any kind of game plan gets thrown away and you have to improvise quickly. Chances are the offense barely got to run any of the plays they had been practicing all week. Doesn’t excuse the poor blocking/execution but I’m willing to be lenient on the O. The defense was completely overwhelmed, unprepared and flat out stunk. As a Bears fan, that is unacceptable. I’ll be at the Browns game this weekend and if I see the same miserable defense against an inept Browns offense I may storm the field just to get an opportunity to tell Lovie how embarrassed I am to be a fan of such a pathetic team.

When a team plays this badly, usually scheme has nothing to do with it, and everything to do with effort from each player or individual. It falls squarely on the shoulders of Lovie and his staff. JA needs to think this out long and hard after this latest debacle.

That the Denver Broncos was the biggest winner in the Cutler/Orton deal? They are an undefeated team that will only get better with our draft picks. I like the analogy GeauxBears but my question is what is the alternative for a Tampa 2 Defense that can’t get pressure on the Quarterback?

It’s easy for fans to get into a ‘blame storming’ session, but I don’t see any easy answers to this season. I feel the Bears are getting out coached, and out performed on the field. We are two missed field goals from being 1-5.

I hate to say it, but we will find out what kind of team we are this week against Cleveland. Middle of the pack, or bottom third?

Biggs is reporting that Tommie Harris didn’t miss the game because of his knee. Harris comes off as very malcontent in the article. Go to the Suntimes and check it out. I’d put up a link, but those of you who know me, know I fail miserably when I try.

The Bengals don’t have that good of an offense. Your Dline is supposed to be better than they’re Oline. They’re offensive line is mostly inexperienced young players and your Dline consists of former Pro Bowlers and first-round picks. I don’t get how this happened but I certainly don’t think that the Bears will continue to play this badly. It certainly makes me feel better about the Packers loss to the Bengals in week 2 though.

RG- Beekman LG- Lance Louis

Can he block?

Charles Tillman is overrated.

Ok, great analysis. Can you please tell me why now? And at what level of corner back did you have Tillman at, which is making him underachieve according to you?

There was a time, and it wasn’t that long ago, that Tillman and Vasher were the best cornerback tandem the Bears have had in decades. Besides injury, I’m wondering what happened.

whats this i hear about tommie harris saying his knee is fine, and he doesnt know why they didnt let him play?? ANSWER ANY1, ANY1……

Remember in training camp when we were so excited about Bowman? So much for that.

2 weeks in a row of 0 pressure on the QB. Not just 0 sacks, but 0 pressure.

Briggs was the only guy who did his job on D.

While I can’t say that anyone on the D line did well, I have to point out that M. Harrison got as many tackles in 1 day as Tommie Harris has all season – Literally! Since Tommie brings 0 pressure these days, we might as well stick with the guy who can at least tackle a guy every now & then.

If we can’t get pressure with the front 4, how bout some blitzs from the sides (not these retarded blitzs of running LBs directly into 330lb O-lineman!?!?

It’s time someone gets blamed! Not for losing a game, but for the continued state of affairs where there doesn’t seem to be a plan in place to make this team better or adapt to changing situtations. Michael McCaskey should have Ted Phillips, Jerry Angelo, and Lovie Smith in his office today and demand an explanation as to how we have been embarrassingly unprepared two weeks in a row in addition to starting slow in every game this season. As an owner, I would want to know that since you’ve been able to re-sign several of our core players to very lucrative, long-term agreements, traded for the franchise QB you told me we needed, brought in the “missing piece” D-line coach that would turn our defense around, and signed a sure 1st ballot HOF’er for our “vastly improved O-line”, how the results could be no different than they’ve been the last 2 years? We went to a SB, which means our team had to be pretty good, but we have actually regressed in our development since then.

Since Michael McCaskey was an Ivy League Business professor, I would think he would be familiar with organizations adjusting business plans and strategies on an ongoing basis, so I’d be asking my management team why they have not been able to make changes in their plans and strategies to take into account injuries, performance issues, etc. just like any other business would?

I think it’s time everyone in this organization is held accountable for the state of affairs. We all know that no one is going to win the SB every year, but missing the playoffs every year since the Super Bowl is inexcusible and right now it looks very possible that we can make it 3 in a row. If we were showing improvement, it would be one thing, but we’re going the other way.

i mean, it was a good show.

please explain. bad news because he is a rookie? umm yeah obviously. good news because he might be really good? thats what I want to know. Nothing I’ve seen so far has indicated to me that Afalava is “special”. What have you seen to make you think otherwise if in fact u do?

trade tommie harris for some draft picks swap schemes and reload of course after firing lovie and RT and babich possibly the conditioning staff as well.

Lovie Smith said last week and this week that he would take responsibility for not having our guys ready to play. I wonder if Jerry Angelo will take responsibility for not giving Smith enough talent to be successful.

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The most important part, though, is just to blame someone, anyone, right? I disagree.

You don’t want to blame somebody, but you have to. Two straight losses after the bye week, both looking like they were unprepared, there needs to be finger-pointing.

I commented on your previous thread to offer some outside perspective and I thought I’d elaborate here. It seems to me that, while the defense may require a change of scheme and/or personel, the offense is only lacking upgrades along the offensive front. Cutler has the potential to be the best in the league on any given Sunday, Forte showed flashes as a rookie so health and better blocking should help him get back to that, Johnny Knox looks like the real deal and Devin Hester should be a solid non-#1 WR, plus Olsen is a stud at TE. If you can secure true, long term betterments up front, that unit should be good enough to carry the defense along with your exceptional special teams play.

Anybody else ready for Graham to start in place of Bowman?

Bowman sounded great in training camp, but has been terrible this year. Graham was a pleasant suprise we we let him play last year.

I think we’ll all ready to get Omiyale’s sorry ass off the field. Wonder when Lovie will finally admit that the Omiyale to Guard experiment has failed.

Okay, this may be an overreaction to the offensive line play. But, basically, Cutler is a precious commodity being abused repeatedly behind an old and/or mediocre OL. He’s set to start losing value if he hasn’t lost a little already since the start of the season. The team has many needs, several upgrades on both lines and the defensive backfield. Maybe pick up a QB who can play effectively within a system designed by a cutting edge head coach and/or offensive coordinator. Oh yeah, and we need a new and better coaching staff and GM.

we traded 2 1st rounders and signed him to an extension paying him bascially the same amount as Rivers and Manning for the next few years… if you think we’re gonna trade him…well, we aren’t

it could not be said that we lack for zany ideas. I only felt better Sunday after going out for beers with a couple of buddies who are Chiefs and Rams fans. We have plenty of gaps on our roster to be filled, sure, but we seem to be developing some late-rounders (Knox and Afalava, say) into key pieces, which might make losing all these draft picks sting a little less.

This is not to belittle how pissed off we all have a right to be, particularly when it feels like we’re just not prepared to play come Sunday. Just saying that it’s cool for us that it’s true that hope springs eternal (almost) every year. I have to keep a little positive, or my own exile in Minnesota gets to me amongst the purple hordes…

I was thinking the same thing.

I bet he wasn’t even on the active roster for the game. With Tommie, AP and Pisa out we should have had a roster spot available for our top draft pick. WTF!