This has to be the year....
by jimribs on Oct 27, 2009 12:13 PM CDT
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that people consider Lovie on the "hot seat". I'm not one to blame coaching, but there's no way any one can explain to me how its possible to be so under prepared after your bye week, and then repeat mistakes the very next week. Thats inexcusable and the bears 19-19 stailmate record since super bowl 41, is unimpressive at best. At some point (if the Bears fail to make the playoffs) the coaching staff has to be held accountable.
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but it’s hard to be on the hot seat when you do just enough. The Bears have to really tank and go 4-12 , 5-11, or 6-10 for Lovie and Co. to be on the hot seat. Nobody wants to see that, especially this year because that means a very high draft pick going to Denver.
by McRipper on Oct 27, 2009 12:25 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
You know what? It seems like it does have to be this season..
All the top coaches are looking for Jobs.
I've got this thing and it's fucking golden!
by SoulEater7 on Oct 27, 2009 12:33 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Yes & No...
Unreasonable people make life difficult...
by WisBearsFan34 on Oct 27, 2009 12:42 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
yes & no continued
Most of the BIG Names (ie Shannahan, Gruden, Cowher, and Holmgren) were all available at end of last season. So in my opinion, there is no greater urgency than at the end of last season to sign a big name coach. In fact there is some talk that Jeff Fischer might be looking for work at the end of the season. So there will be even more top caliber coaches available, so why the urgency?
I personally feel that we need a new OC and a revamped OL. I would love to see outside the box thinker for OC (a Mike Martz type…but not Martz, he’s an ass).
I also think the Pace experiment has run its course and he needs to be benched or switched over to the other tackle position and let williams play his natural position.
Unreasonable people make life difficult...
by WisBearsFan34 on Oct 27, 2009 12:50 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I totally agree
but would like to take it a step further. I think we should move pace to LG switch williams to LT and move shaffer into the RT spot. I think playing against larger nose tackles would help pace out because he can’t get low enough against DE to get leverage.
On the coaching thing, the problem we will have with any aforementioned “big name” head coaches Angelo would also have to go. Most of them will want full personnel control.
Does anyone have any ideas for an OC?
by Jhitt81 on Oct 27, 2009 1:26 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Pace isn’t cutting it in the running game. From what I’ve read here over the past few months, a RT is more of a mauling run-blocker than the LT position, and the OGs need to be good at run-blocking. His sheer size may overcome advancing years if he slides inside to Guard? Otherwise, it seems like we’d be asking him to play in a position where he’s focused even more on run-blocking, which is no longer his strength.
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by Spongie on Oct 27, 2009 3:36 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
"His sheer size may overcome advancing years if he slides inside to Guard? "
That is what i was thinking. He is still stronge so maybe he won’t have to get as low against NT to get good leverage against them. Blocking is all about leverage.
by Jhitt81 on Oct 27, 2009 5:20 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Two options:
1) Go for broke and bring in two of those guys, one defensive guy(Cowher) and one offensive guy(Shanahan of Holmgren), one as a coordinator and one as a HC. There’s a 99 percent chance that won’t happen, as Lovie has money left on his deal AND both those guys would cost a big chunk of change, but hey, a guy can dream.
2) Bring in an offensive HC,(again, either Shanahan or Holmgren), and try to lure Ron Rivera or Mike Singletary back as the DC. I’ve heard Mike has an out in his deal if the Bears come calling, so maybe he’d be willing to take a step down to come back to the orange and blue.
At this point, it’s almost ABL, Anybody But Lovie.
Metal sharpens metal.
And this guy right here understands and knows what leadership is all about: The coach, the hall of famer......... Dick Butka! George Ryan
by dakoose on Oct 27, 2009 3:24 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
There is no way Singletary
would leave a HC job to become a DC.
by Jhitt81 on Oct 27, 2009 5:11 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
If the team has a winning record
but fails to make the playoffs, Smith probably (and regretably IMO) stays. If the team has a losing record I think he has little chance of returning.
I always turn to the sports section first. The sports page records people's accomplishments; the front page has nothing but man's failures.
~Earl Warren
by lookingdeadred on Oct 27, 2009 12:35 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
If I were in charge, this weeks game would be a must win. Having a team unprepared in inexcusible.
by Lester A. Wiltfong Jr. on Oct 27, 2009 12:39 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
It is a pivotal game, no doubt.
Another asskicking like our Bears suffered against the Bengals and the villagers will be out with torches and pitchforks.
"Chance favors the prepared mind." - Pasteur
by Maelvampyre on Oct 27, 2009 8:52 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Having a team unprepared
for a week is one story, but to have them unprepared for three consecutive weeks (bye, Atlanta and Cincy games) is inexcusable.
"Repetition is only good when you've been winning." - Valet
by propheteer on Oct 28, 2009 2:25 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
you forgot
Detroit. We came out and let them slap our D around during the first half.
by TrialsBass on Oct 29, 2009 11:44 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Sure
but at least the coaching staff made adjustments, and the team went on to route them when it mattered most
"Repetition is only good when you've been winning." - Valet
by propheteer on Oct 30, 2009 10:46 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
still
I’m getting sick of watching the Bears stink up the joint in the first half, before making a decent effort in the second half.
by TrialsBass on Oct 30, 2009 1:27 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Hopefully Sunday we'll first half production.
I’m hoping to see two or three long, time-consuming drives in the first half… maybe dominate TOP by a good 7 or 8 minutes.
You are all gentlemen (and ladies) and good judges of cheap whiskey.
by Dane Noble on Oct 30, 2009 1:33 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
He's got to go.
Lovie’s time in Chicago is over. I think a good candidate to take over is Kyle Shanahan (the Texans OC). He’s turned that offense into a power house.
by boondock_saint812 on Oct 27, 2009 1:22 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
What about mcdermmot? DC for the eagles?
by Jhitt81 on Oct 27, 2009 1:28 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
If you are going to go with DC's
Why not go with the Bob Ryan, I think is is DC/AHC in Cleavland with Mangenious…
Unreasonable people make life difficult...
by WisBearsFan34 on Oct 27, 2009 1:42 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
DC for eagles
It is still Jim Johnson’s defense. He was a great coordinator and McDermot is doing what JJ would have done. I don’t know if he would have success trying to develop something on his own.
by brands735 on Oct 27, 2009 1:59 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
The reason i was suggesting him
was because he knows JJ’s def.
i don’t really like ryan. I didn’t like him for the raiders and i don’t like him at cleveland.
by Jhitt81 on Oct 27, 2009 2:06 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
HC
I think the next head coach needs to be an offensive mind…like Kyle Shanahan or Brian Schottenheimer. I would prefer Shanahan considering what he’s done with the Texans offense since he’s been there.
by boondock_saint812 on Oct 27, 2009 2:11 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Throw a truck load of cash at ...
Bill Cowher
by Lester A. Wiltfong Jr. on Oct 27, 2009 2:51 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
The McCaskey's
Won’t throw a truck load of money at anyone outside of the family…
Unreasonable people make life difficult...
by WisBearsFan34 on Oct 27, 2009 3:07 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
How about just throwing a truck at the family?
I could go for that.
Metal sharpens metal.
And this guy right here understands and knows what leadership is all about: The coach, the hall of famer......... Dick Butka! George Ryan
by dakoose on Oct 27, 2009 3:20 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I second that.
I could go for that as well. Since the McCaskey’s are so worried about money why don’t they sell the team. The have to realize that if the team keeps losing, the team’s value keeps decreasing.
by boondock_saint812 on Oct 27, 2009 3:23 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
motion approved!
Unreasonable people make life difficult...
by WisBearsFan34 on Oct 27, 2009 3:57 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
How does the value of the team decrease if they lose ?
They share massive revenues with the other owners. They operate in the second biggest market in the NFL. All the McCaskeys have to do to make money is put out piss poor teams. The less they put into the Bears the more profit they make …
by Irish Bears Fan on Oct 28, 2009 3:07 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
we need a h\c with passion for this franchise. someone who knows and respects the history of the bears. now is the time to go for an ex player or someone with ties to the bears
by stepeo on Oct 27, 2009 3:21 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I wish we had the McCaskeys or the Coaching staffs #s so we can bombard them with calls untill they do what they want
by DaHamsta on Oct 27, 2009 3:25 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Virginia prolly doesn't even know what a phone is.
She’s like, 3000 years old.
Metal sharpens metal.
And this guy right here understands and knows what leadership is all about: The coach, the hall of famer......... Dick Butka! George Ryan
by dakoose on Oct 27, 2009 3:26 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Then we send it via pony express!
Unreasonable people make life difficult...
by WisBearsFan34 on Oct 27, 2009 3:58 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Ron Rivera?
"Chance favors the prepared mind." - Pasteur
by Maelvampyre on Oct 27, 2009 8:53 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
No way
Lovie gets fired. Look at his contract, 2 years and 11 million dollars. McCaskeys won’t eat that much up.
If you want to crown em...
by JohnnyTruant on Oct 27, 2009 4:13 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
What are some(if any) examples of HC's changing there Def scheme?
Is there a chance Lovie would change his scheme from the Cover 2?
by Jhitt81 on Oct 27, 2009 5:15 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I'm not one to blame coaching, you write
Why not? In the NFL, it all starts with the coaching.
That comment, to me, makes no sense.
by GeoMak on Oct 27, 2009 11:40 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
because lovie doesn't suit up
so I believe coaches shoulder more blame than they should, but its obvious lovie really isn’t getting through to his players anymore
by jimribs on Oct 29, 2009 9:49 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Again, you make no sense
Bill Belichick doesn’t suit up either
He won his first SB when a sixth round, unknown draft pick (Tom Brady) replaced a former #1 pick (Drew Bledsoe).
The biggest difference in the NFL is in the coaching. It all goes back to Vince Lombardi. He took over the biggest joke in the NFL, the GB Packers, a turned them into a dynasty.
Basically, the very same players.
It’s the coaching.
by GeoMak on Oct 31, 2009 4:12 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
To all "Fire Lovie" homers ....
The Bears can’t afford to eat $11 million of a contract. Lovie Smith is here for the next two years, after this year. He’s not going anywhere. The McCaskeys don’t eat contract. To fork out $11 million to get rid of Lovie AND pay for a new big bucks coach … that’s not in their nature.
To all Cover-2 homers …..
It’s a formation !! That’s all. Change the formation and you still have Hunter Hillenmeyer and Nick Roach and Zack Bowman and Tommie Harris taking up space. There’s nothing wrong with the formation. It’s not like the defense are in Cover-2 on every play, do you guys watch football ?
by Irish Bears Fan on Oct 28, 2009 3:12 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Just because it isn't likely...
doesn’t mean we can’t hope/demand for it to happen. If the Bears organization doesn’t hear how pissed off we are, then why should they change at all? IMO, it’s no different than hoping Jeff Reed misses 2 FGs and the Bears beat the SB champion Steelers. Or, perhaps, that a mediocre Bears team could win 10-12 games and make the playoffs. Or that any of the obvious problems with this team’s performance could be addressed before next season. If there is truly no changing of the status quo, then why watch football at all?
There are no stupid questions, but there are a LOT of inquisitive idiots.
by LostInSTL on Oct 28, 2009 7:33 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
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