David Haugh: Lovie's Job is Safe
by Dane Noble on Oct 27, 2009 2:34 PM CDT
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After the Bears were taken apart, limb by limb, by the Cincinnati Bengals, we started hearing some familiar cries from the fanbase.
I don't know how to explain the fact that the Bears had two weeks to prepare for the Falcons, only to come out unprepared and sloppy. I also don't know how to explain the fact that just one week later, Coach Smith sat in front of the cameras and said he didn't have the team ready to play the Bengals.
But, David Haugh takes time to address the coaching situation, and says that Lovie is not going anywhere, if for no reason other than economics.
As a public service to save the next fed-up Bears fan from picking up the phone or clicking "Send," please remember that Lovie Smith has two years and about $11 million left on his contract after this season.
So unless Virginia McCaskey adopts Daniel Snyder into the family, the Bears aren't likely to pay Smith a fortune to go away and open the vault for a $6 million-a-year replacement such as Bill Cowher or either of the two Mikes, Holmgren or Shanahan.
While we wait to see how the Bears will perform against the woeful Browns, we have to wonder what exactly is the problem. Sure, personnel on the OL is an issue, and our lack of pass rush allows teams to carve up our secondary, but penalties and mental miscues against Atlanta along with a melt-down in Cincy... one has to wonder.
To borrow from Jerry Seinfield, "What's the deal with the Chicago Bears?"
And honestly, say we thump Cleveland the way we were thumped last week... would that make you, as a fan, feel better?
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And honestly, say we thump Cleveland the way we were thumped last week… would that make you, as a fan, feel better?
No
"I'm sorry Josh, I'm with Chicago now, you need to stop calling me" -JerBear50 as Jay Cutler
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by BearNecessities on Oct 27, 2009 2:49 PM CDT reply actions
If we lose to the Browns
I’m on strike until someone is fired.
I think I'd walk home from the game.
And I live in Iowa.
If you can't laugh at yourself you must not be very funny.
if we here another speech well we're 3-4
We’re a good football team. I’m not sure what the problem is. I didn’t prepare the team good enough. honestly i’m gonna fly to Chicago and throw a shoe at him like that guy did Prez Bush.
and then
scream at the top of your lungs…“getting your team prepared to play is your #1 priority!!”
"Repetition is only good when you've been winning." - Valet
what makes this loss worse
Is Chad johnson was talking shit all week long. and no one from the bears showed up with any fire or heart. honestly what does it take to get fired up for a game?
I don't see how
anything Chad Ochocinco said the week prior should come into play. It shouldn’t take a decent receiver calling out the entire defense saying that not only himself, but Benson would have their way with them to get them fired up. Words on a tweet or to the media calling you week and vulnerable shouldn’t make you want to prove them wrong. It’s an argument that panders to the football stupid……
more talent
"I'm sorry Josh, I'm with Chicago now, you need to stop calling me" -JerBear50 as Jay Cutler
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by BearNecessities on Oct 27, 2009 4:55 PM CDT up reply actions
I like this shoe throwing idea.
Wouldn’t it be cool (not cause we lost but for dramatic effect) if every fan started throwing their shoes on the field if the Bears did lose on Sunday. I think I’m too far back though. My shoe would probably just hit some poor schmuck in row 11.
If you can't laugh at yourself you must not be very funny.
Haha the way Bush got shoes thrown his way in Iraq was hilarious and sad. Hopefully it doesn’t get that bad…
by GriggsBriggs on Oct 27, 2009 9:44 PM CDT up reply actions
If they lose
I won’t watch another game this year. Seriously.
"Repetition is only good when you've been winning." - Valet
I'm with you
"I'm sorry Josh, I'm with Chicago now, you need to stop calling me" -JerBear50 as Jay Cutler
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by BearNecessities on Oct 27, 2009 4:56 PM CDT up reply actions
Nope
I will be satisfied if they thump the Cardinals, Eagles and Vikings as well. I need to see them for once put together complete games consistently.
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by Ditkavsworld on Oct 27, 2009 3:08 PM CDT up reply actions
agreed
if we end up 7 or even 8 and 3, that, as a fan, would make me feel better
"I'm sorry Josh, I'm with Chicago now, you need to stop calling me" -JerBear50 as Jay Cutler
"No offense intended" does not jive with posting in the heat of the moment.
by BearNecessities on Oct 27, 2009 3:10 PM CDT up reply actions
No, a blowout against Cleveland means nothing
They are a scrimmage game for any good NFL team.
by Sweetness Never Dies on Oct 27, 2009 3:18 PM CDT up reply actions
If some how the Bears are embarassed again
Lovie should be fired on the spot
I still say if he doesn’t make the playoffs this year he’s gone
by Lester A. Wiltfong Jr. on Oct 27, 2009 2:50 PM CDT reply actions
i almost
want the Bears to do badly in a way that it gauruntees a change in coaching and thinking around the organization. I know it’s messed up, but they need a wake up call.
you mean it guarantees a change in coaching
AFTER next year. i believe haugh, unfortunately lovie’s not going away that easy. ugh.
Lovie is not going anywhere.
Lovie takes his team as far as it possibly can. The 2006 team had a lot of talent on it and players were playing in their primes. That’s why we we in the super bowl that year. We had great run blocking and our d line got pressure on the quarterback. Lovie had perfect game plans and the players them perfectly. Our D line isn’t what it used to be. so the bears gotta make some moves. We’re not getting pressure on the quarterback, so we trade for a pass rushing specialist who has a chance to blossom under rod marinelli. Gaines Adams was the 4th overall selection for a reason. He can be great in the right scheme. The bears are doing all of the right moves. They just need time to mesh and start clicking. the bears will be one of the best teams in at the end of the season. mark my word.
what?????
are you actually being serious? you’re right, the 2006 team had a lot of talent…enough to overcome most of the horrible coaching. in the end, when they went up against the likes of peyton manning they were completely outsmarted. once again no halftime adjustments. the bears will never come close to the superbowl again under lovie smith.
by genetic on Oct 28, 2009 10:10 AM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
any cheaper
Since we’re not getting rid of Lovie because of money, would it be any cheaper to get rid of Angelo?
by boondock_saint812 on Oct 27, 2009 2:51 PM CDT reply actions
I wouldn't mind JA going away either.
But I believe they both got new contracts or extensions at the same time. So based on economics will pay people who can’t do their job. Man I need that kind of job.
You suck at what you do, but I’m gonna pay you a crap load of cash anyway. Here ya go!!! Oh have you met my son, he’ll be taking over when I die. He’s a little slow but he’s my widdle boy (pinches cheek).
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by Ditkavsworld on Oct 27, 2009 3:10 PM CDT up reply actions
Don't think so?
JA is signed longer than Lovie is (2013?).
"Repetition is only good when you've been winning." - Valet
well how about us as fans start to pool our money together
So we can get rid of both and get a coach and gm we want. We’re all going to spend money on the team some how some way anyways. So lets send Virginia a big fat check saying its yours soon as they are gone.
I got a quarter.
Does that help?
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by Ditkavsworld on Oct 27, 2009 3:37 PM CDT up reply actions
i got 5 on it
"I'm sorry Josh, I'm with Chicago now, you need to stop calling me" -JerBear50 as Jay Cutler
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by BearNecessities on Oct 27, 2009 3:39 PM CDT up reply actions
up to 5.25
if every bears fan put in something even if it is only a quarter we can get some where. I would love to see Lovies face if this happened.
it would look the same
"I'm sorry Josh, I'm with Chicago now, you need to stop calling me" -JerBear50 as Jay Cutler
"No offense intended" does not jive with posting in the heat of the moment.
by BearNecessities on Oct 27, 2009 3:52 PM CDT up reply actions
As a Husker fan
I remember speculation of some bigwigs in the state thinking of buying Bill Calahan’s contract out just to get him the #$@! out of there.
true cause he knows he's getting paid
he’ll probably smile
Just a thought...
If the McCaskey’s are so worried about money, why don’t they sell the team? They have to realize that if the team keeps losing, the team’s value keeps decreasing.
by boondock_saint812 on Oct 27, 2009 3:26 PM CDT reply actions
not really
just like the Cubs we are faithful to our team.
it's really our (fans) fault
we keep showing up, and right when we are about to give up, they give us a playoff season, 2001, then three bad years, then imo, 05 was a fluke going 11-5, and then 06 we won 13 games… and now 07 08 were bad by my standards… and 09 (IMO) will shape up to be another “near miss” 7-9 to 9-7 miss wildcard by one game.
Fans up in arms and within 2 years we will have another playoff team… but inconsistent at best.
"I'm sorry Josh, I'm with Chicago now, you need to stop calling me" -JerBear50 as Jay Cutler
"No offense intended" does not jive with posting in the heat of the moment.
by BearNecessities on Oct 27, 2009 3:38 PM CDT up reply actions
your 100% right
what’s sad if you look at our 3 wins we really only beat the lions. seahawks were banged up with injuries and troy was out for the steelers. we should be 1 and 5 right now.
wins are wins
troy may have been out for the steelers (not to mention reed’s kicking foot taking the game off too), but let’s not forget that we had some key players missing. urlacher was out too. it’s a huge difference, not having his judgment in playcalling, coverage skills, general leadership.
the D at least is completely different if we have urlacher in the middle (not to mention a healthy pisa). so yeah, i agree that we got lucky with polamalu being out and the seahawks being banged up, but that’s how it goes in this league.
injuries are something we can’t control and thus can’t really worry too much about. what’s frustrating is that the things that the players and coaches can control (dumb penalties, blowing coverages, missing blocking assignments, etc.) are what’s killing us this year. we’re getting slayed by ourselves, and that’s just no fun to watch.
Too much return on the initial investment.
To become a charter member of the NFL Papa Bear had to pay $100 (which no one ever paid). Initial payroll was less than $100 for the season. The Bears are currently worth nearly a billion and show millions in profits each year. Sell? The value couldn’t possibly decrease THAT much. Walk away from THAT cash cow??? No way.
If you can't laugh at yourself you must not be very funny.
what i dont get
as a cubs fan and a bears fan. do they not realize how much more they would make if we won alot more?
Would they really?
The UFO by the lake only holds so many, and it’s sold out every single game. If they added 5,000-10,000 more seats, they’d sell out too.
Merch? Yhea right. Bears goodies sell with the best of them.
By loving the Bears, we provide the profit. Just because they suck doesn’t mean I won’t love them. I’d be wearing a Bears hat if we were 2-14, sitting in my Bears chair, with a Bears rug and a Bears doormat to welcome folks to my house.
Fair-weather fans aren’t really fans, they’re just people riding the bandwagon. The real fans are why the Bears are always making money. Do you know how happy the NFL would be if every team had a fan base like we did?
NFL would be killing every sport in the ratings.
I do kinda get mad when i buy a players jersey that is doing good for the team and the next year they are let go. i’ll still be watching and wearing the gear every weekend. But come on we can do better.
I'm not sure how much the whole profit sharing thing comes into account.
When you are talking about selling licensed NFL merchandise I think every team has a hand in the cookie jar, so to speak. I could be wrong though.
If you can't laugh at yourself you must not be very funny.
Hey I realize I'm a little late on this
But if you could fire anyone in a knee-jerk reaction to the Bengals game would it be
A. Lovie
B. Angelo
C. Turner
D. The McCaskeys
E. Bob Babich
F. Matt Forte?
Seems harsh on Forte. Not his fault the offense were rendered redundant.
"The trouble with the world is that the stupid are cocksure and the intelligent are full of doubt." - Bertrand Russell
"F*** everybody outside of Halas Hall. BEARDOWN" - WavyGravy
Well like ditka said
Running is a want to. And Forte doesnt seem to want to. I know the O line aint shit. but AP seems to be doing better than forte
Well, I’m convinced. Let’s fire the most productive player of last season, when he carried the offense and we ran into the ground. My guess would be that he’d join the list of ex-Bears who blossom elsewhere.
"The trouble with the world is that the stupid are cocksure and the intelligent are full of doubt." - Bertrand Russell
"F*** everybody outside of Halas Hall. BEARDOWN" - WavyGravy
i'm sure he would.
Thats what really sucks about it. Honestly i think he is hurt and doesnt want to say anything.
watch Lovie will get another HC job
and win the SB.
I wouldn't be surprised
if that happened, and if it does, it’ll almost certainly come down to the talent on the field.
With all the injuries and aging players we have, we should probably be glad to be .500
I wasn't sure about him, that's why I put the question mark by his name
but remember, it’s a knee-jerk reaction we’re talking about here
by Donald Driver on Oct 27, 2009 4:21 PM CDT up reply actions
Yeah, but he was only given 6 carries that game, and averaged 4 yards (one of his best two averages this season). If anything, I’d fire Lovie, twice (once as HC and once as DC)!
"The trouble with the world is that the stupid are cocksure and the intelligent are full of doubt." - Bertrand Russell
"F*** everybody outside of Halas Hall. BEARDOWN" - WavyGravy
my bad
I should’ve put Culter on the list instead
by Donald Driver on Oct 27, 2009 4:32 PM CDT up reply actions
G. all the above
But bob isn’t bad as a LB coach.
not sure
but i know if was running things, during that game i would have at any given time, cut about 11 people from the team, on the field, right there during the game “you’re done, walk home”
"I'm sorry Josh, I'm with Chicago now, you need to stop calling me" -JerBear50 as Jay Cutler
"No offense intended" does not jive with posting in the heat of the moment.
by BearNecessities on Oct 27, 2009 4:58 PM CDT up reply actions
If Lovie stays
I hope we do the NFL network thing for training camp. i would like to see how things go behind the scenes around there.
stop it...
you know for a fact you would be happy if the bears do blast the browns. i know i would. i would be happier if they could put a win streak together but…baby steps?
If they don't
run out of the tunnel Sunday FIRED up, then this season is a wash, because the players will have given up.
If they come out and thump them, I’ll be waiting to see what they do a week later, and if they stomp there too, I’ll think, yhea…maybe they really are good.
listen...
as long as they don’t become the redskins…a team filled with talent but has lost the fire and desire to play/win…then, i will continue to watch the bears – win or lose…peace.
Lovie's job security has never remotely been an issue
Right or wrong, that is a factual statement. Even if the Bears go 5-11 on the season both Angelo and Lovie will be back next season.
"Cubs will win 79 to 83 games." BLou (7/21/09)
As Hub Arkush likes to say...
….the hard cold truth of the matter is that the Bears are very mediocre from a talent perspective. THAT is the root problem of the Bears right now. Jerry Angelo has had eight years to get the personnel thing in order and he hasn’t gotten the job done. While Angelo has done relatively well in the middle rounds of the draft, he has failed spectacularly on day one of the draft.
The latest bust in making is a name nobody wants to talk about around here, but I will….Greg Olson. He is INSANELY overhyped and overrated based on what he does and doesn’t do on the football field.
Chris Williams was also another bad pick. But that’s for another day.
"Cubs will win 79 to 83 games." BLou (7/21/09)
I think you are off on both
I think Chris williams will be a fine tackle for us and is the least of our worries on the Oline. The Olsen thing, He was the highest rated TE and a huge need for us and we got at pick 31 which was a great value at that spot. The guy is still young and become a very good player. Just because the coaches under utilized him the last 2 years does not make that his fault.
Roach love the run stuffin', but don't forget about the TE over the middle!!
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next year
I think the scariest thing is that if we are this bad, what are we going to do next year when we have no picks in the 1st 3 rounds of the draft!?!?
by Bears-Bullsfan on Oct 27, 2009 11:40 PM CDT reply actions
Nay..
Even if we took cleveland from behind 50-3 I wouldn’t be pleased, because we “should” do that anyway…the browns are horrible lol.
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