The Bears Den - 10/28/09
....where we just got paid, so consider this our last Bears Den.
ChicagoBears.com
Nathan Vasher contributed at free safety for the Cincy game. Thanks, Larry.
The Bears players are giving back to the community.
Bears players are also getting ready to host charitable functions.
Chicago Sun-Times
Tommie Harris needs to practice. End o' article.
10 Thoughts: Is Lovie on the hot seat? And more...
The NFL opened Pro Bowl voting.
Chicago Tribune
The Bears are going to hold a halftime tribute to Walter Payton on Sunday.
Jumperoo....
Defensive game plan against Cincy: Bad.
The 5 lowest moments during Lovie Smith's tenure.
Tommie Harris' absence was the coach's decisions, not injury-based.
U2 is holding another concert in 2010, so the Trib decided to fire off a letter.
Nathan Vasher played FS, but he'll remain a cornerback.
Daily Herald
Lovie Smith isn't sending any messages, but changes may be in the future.
Tommie Harris' situation continues to confuse everyone.
Mike Imrem: Lovie can't hold a revealing press conference.
Barry Rozner: The Bears' failures are starting to reveal bigger problems.
ESPN Chicago
The Bears dropped like a rock in the ESPN Power Rankings.
Are Tommie Harris' days numbered in Chicago? Jeff Dickerson thinks so.
SportingNews
Our very own wiltfongjr gives his assessment of the Cincy game - Don't miss it.
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As far as Tommy Harris' future in Chicago goes
It’s really starting to look like they’re setting him up to cut him after the season. He’s basically been getting special treatment – not being required to practice every week. It looks like that’s coming to an abrupt end. I guess they figured out that his lack of quality practice time is not helping his on-field performance – plus it sends a negative message to the rest of the team when he’s allowed to play but not required to practice.
It’s unfortunate, because this guy was a super star when he was healthy. Those days are gone… Ultimately football is a business, just like anything else.
by JimmyMack on Oct 28, 2009 12:21 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Kinda sad what happened to what was once a really good defense.

I've got this thing and it's fucking golden!
by SoulEater7 on Oct 28, 2009 12:30 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yep
And it seems like it didn’t take long for the steep decline. Disgusting in my view for a Bears team — not representing our great defensive lineage very well, to say the least!
by Sweetness Never Dies on Oct 28, 2009 11:57 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
The best part is..
He’ll probably heal up for a year, go to another team..and stomp us lol.
by Pretender85 on Oct 28, 2009 12:20 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I would put the Payton statue either on top of the hill across from the museum
because thats how he trained on those hills or on the side by LSD so people can see it driving by.. put some lights on it.
As far as todays Bears go I just think a win can heal some wounds.
I've got this thing and it's fucking golden!
by SoulEater7 on Oct 28, 2009 12:22 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I would put it in front of Harris's locker
and hope some of the work ethic and dedication rub off on him.
"The time has come to get deeply into Football. It is the only thing we have left that ain't fixed." - HST
by JerBear50 on Oct 29, 2009 4:49 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Hell
I’d give him $20 bucks if he gets within 6 inches of the QB.
I'M A MAN! I'M 23!
by ChiFan13 on Oct 29, 2009 9:32 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
You'd have to promise $20 bucks every time.
Other wise complacency would definitely set in.
by rdent4hof on Oct 29, 2009 12:12 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Wait...
Why is this your last den?
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by Eaten by Bears on Oct 28, 2009 12:49 AM CDT via mobile reply actions 0 recs
it's like a slight on Tommy Harris..
he got paid and now he’s bad. I think thats what he means…. I don’t think it’s literally the last den.
I've got this thing and it's fucking golden!
by SoulEater7 on Oct 28, 2009 2:04 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Good
You better not leave.
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by Eaten by Bears on Oct 28, 2009 9:19 AM CDT via mobile up reply actions 0 recs
Good work btw. Loved the line.
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by Ditkavsworld on Oct 28, 2009 10:10 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Same could be said for Lovie
he hasn’t done sh*t since he signed his extension either.
by BearFan611 on Oct 28, 2009 10:07 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
that would be great
if he wasn’t released for character issues, I highly doubt we would pick him up. We sure could use a replacement for Jones though…
by Da Sassage on Oct 28, 2009 9:15 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Johnson is spent
He is getting an unreal amount of carries this year and is blaming his coach? Try blaming the fat guys in front of you. LJ needs a line to be productive and we know exactly what the Bears’ line is doing right now.
by brands735 on Oct 28, 2009 9:48 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Watch
Larry Johnson is gonna be a Patriot and regain his place among the NFL elite…
by rdent4hof on Oct 28, 2009 10:15 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Maybe the Bears
should try picking up someone to rejuvenate their career, maybe all he needs is a change of scenery. it seemed to have worked a little for benson and orton.
by Da Sassage on Oct 28, 2009 11:17 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
maybe all he needs is a change of scenery
Cutler got that. He came here and got to see an offensive line that can’t protect him…..
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by Spongie on Oct 28, 2009 2:23 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
i know how we can save the d-line
Put Olin Kreutz at DT. He can’t do a shotgun snap but he sure did blow up that dude on the int.
by Ryan21 on Oct 28, 2009 8:00 AM CDT via mobile reply actions 0 recs
I was on the probowl voting ballot.
Is there a Bear worth voting for? In all honesty? I struggled to justify anyone other than Maynard. How sad is that?
If you can't laugh at yourself you must not be very funny.
by Just Dave on Oct 28, 2009 8:49 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Briggs, ftw?
Be nice. Flag comments that you think are offensive. Use the "reply" button. Drink plenty of water. Compliment others. Rec (wreck) comments and posts you like. Don't call people names. If you don't like someone's comment, attack the comment and not the commentor. Learn the difference in your/you're, then/than, to/too. Exercise. Relax. Stretch often. Find good in the world.
Just because it can be done on Madden NFL does not automatically make it a viable option in real life.
by Dane Noble on Oct 28, 2009 8:53 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Briggs is the only
Bear that has done anything worth noting so far this seaons, cutler maybe a close second… gotta stop throwing int’s.
by Da Sassage on Oct 28, 2009 9:16 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
What a team,
When your best players are the kicker and punter.
by Big Ike on Oct 28, 2009 10:53 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
McBride, ftw?
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by smudgers on Oct 28, 2009 9:47 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
PATRICK MANNELLY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! MVP DAMN IT!
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by Ditkavsworld on Oct 28, 2009 10:12 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Oh yeah!
What was I thinking!
If you can't laugh at yourself you must not be very funny.
by Just Dave on Oct 28, 2009 10:16 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I don't know
but I’m glad to see you’ve come to your senses.
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by Ditkavsworld on Oct 28, 2009 11:06 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Love the Den tags
this week. Huzzah!
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by smudgers on Oct 28, 2009 9:38 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
And there it is!!!!! Awesome
feels like old times.
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by Ditkavsworld on Oct 28, 2009 10:13 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
just great - another player who won't play for the Bears
But how much you want to bet that he’ll be picked off the scrap heap and play adequately for someone else next year? We seem to be going through this kind of pantomine almost every year now – a guy doesn’t produce for us, then suddenly realizes that he’s on his way out of the league and plays up to his potential with another team?
Sorry, I know this is probably the case with almost every team in the league, but somehow it still rankles. Maybe the fact that we’ve blown so many high draft picks over the years is really the underlying factor here – if at least some of those guys had stuck, we wouldn’t care how our cast – offs would be faring.
by Waylon on Oct 28, 2009 10:39 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I highly doubt that'll be the case with Tommie tho
From all reports, Tommie’s knees are on borrowed time. Unless he gets a new set of knees, he’s close to done.
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by ChiFan13 on Oct 28, 2009 10:41 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
one more thing
Someone needs to tell JA that the time to take large risks on previously – injured college players is a fool’s errand. They usually don’t pan out – for anyone.
by Waylon on Oct 28, 2009 10:40 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Except...
I believe “THE” Adrien Peterson had some kind of leg, knee, or ankle injury in college. Look at him now. I feel you on the usually, though.
by Big Ike on Oct 28, 2009 11:05 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yep, but JA seems to make it his #1 priority when drafting.
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by Spongie on Oct 28, 2009 2:25 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
clavicle or collarbone
Something up there that he broke
by Ryan21 on Oct 28, 2009 6:37 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions 0 recs
He was injured a couple times.
That’s why he dropped as far as he did. Also why a lot of people think he won’t have a very long career.
"The time has come to get deeply into Football. It is the only thing we have left that ain't fixed." - HST
by JerBear50 on Oct 29, 2009 4:52 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Coaching Staff
How come when we loose, were still a good football team? lovie makes me sick when he talks, I would love to go up to him and punch him in the face just to see if he has anything in the tank, also I would get great relief from it.
Fast forward…we’re 5-8 and we can still make a run at the wild card..blahblahblah
I hope we loose tha rest of the games especially cleveland. Can one of these anouncers have some balls and mention how awful we have been since the SB?
Hey dumbass, i mean lovie, did u ever think that other coaches have caught onto your defensive schemes? Would it hurt to evolve into the the 21st century of football instead of lingering onto this St. Louis/Tampa Bay bullshit tampa 2 defense?
Better yet, lets have our inexperienced linebackers crowd the line of scrimmage and have them out of place from the snap. Hint dumbass: Receivers are faster than linbckers.
All I ask for Christmas is lovie’s resignation.
by stumpo on Oct 28, 2009 10:47 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I agree it is frustrating watching that man.
And not to be too particular but, Lose: opposite of win Loose: opposite of tight. So technically you’re right either way!
If you can't laugh at yourself you must not be very funny.
by Just Dave on Oct 28, 2009 11:19 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
stumpo you kill me
If you punched him in the face, Lovie would probably say thay he’d have to ‘watch the tape to see what happened.’
by GeoMak on Oct 28, 2009 11:55 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
+1
"I'm sorry Josh, I'm with Chicago now, you need to stop calling me" -JerBear50 as Jay Cutler
"No offense intended" does not jive with posting in the heat of the moment.
by BearNecessities on Oct 28, 2009 2:10 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
You mean the Tampa 2
that’s won two Superbowls in the 21st century?
"The time has come to get deeply into Football. It is the only thing we have left that ain't fixed." - HST
by JerBear50 on Oct 29, 2009 4:55 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
It's like you knew...
Exactly what I was thinking. Really, would Lovie show something if someone smacked him right in the face. A player fumbles, Lovie with that blank look. Cutler throws a fifth pick, nothing. Bears lose by fifty, same stupid a$$ look. Enough!
by Big Ike on Oct 28, 2009 11:01 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Ditka was emotional, but even he eventually lost his team
Once they started tuning him out (not long after the strike), his effectiveness as a coach for the team was effectively over. I know what you mean about passion on the sidelines, but many of the best coaches today don’t really act any differently – look at Tomlinson, etc. They really have that blank look down pat – it’s what said behind closed doors that makes all the difference. If Lovie’s lost the team, thenllook out below – it will remind me a lot of the ’87 season.
by Waylon on Oct 28, 2009 11:11 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Ditka lost the team after the strike
after he had sided with management against his own players.
That said, he took over a worse team than did Lovie, and he won a SB (and his team completely dominated).
Last season the Bears went into Houston needing a win (and an Eagle victory and TB loss) to make the playoffs. They got the Eagle victory and TB loss . . . and lost the game against the Texans.
Afterwards come this comment from Charles Tillman:
“We lost the game. We’re not in the playoffs,” Tillman said. “Our season is over. They wanted it a little bit more than us.”
That’s inexcusable. They ‘wanted it a little bit more than us?’ Are you kidding me? That’s the HC’s job. To get his team ready to play.
That never would have happened under Mike Ditka and if it had, I’m pretty sure NO player would have volunteered that information.
by GeoMak on Oct 28, 2009 12:02 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
which to me says
the players didnt wanna go to the playoffs… Houston was only playing to spoil at that point coming in 7-8 i think
"I'm sorry Josh, I'm with Chicago now, you need to stop calling me" -JerBear50 as Jay Cutler
"No offense intended" does not jive with posting in the heat of the moment.
by BearNecessities on Oct 28, 2009 2:11 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
man that sucks
vxmcclure23: adewale ogunleye sitting out and has a noticeable limp
10/28/2009
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by BearNecessities on Oct 28, 2009 6:21 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
As bad as he looked against Cincy.
It may not suck as much as you think…
by rdent4hof on Oct 29, 2009 12:15 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm amazed we've gotten this far in the season
without him having already suffered some sort of leg ailment.
"The time has come to get deeply into Football. It is the only thing we have left that ain't fixed." - HST
by JerBear50 on Oct 30, 2009 1:23 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

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