The Bears Den - 10/29/09
by ChiFan13 on Oct 29, 2009 12:00 AM CDT
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....WHERE WE'RE NOT GOING TO TALK ABOUT F****** ANYTHING PERSONNEL-WISE!
ChicagoBears.com
Jerry Angelo offers his take on the Cincy game and Tommie Harris.
Jay Cutler and the Bears are looking to rebound.
Israel Idonije's pro career began in Cleveland.
Chicago Breaking Sports
Per a league source, Hunter Hillenmeyer will start at MLB this week.
Chicago Now
Bears as Simpsons characters. Humorous if nothing else.
Chicago Sun-Times
Jerry Angelo hints at possible change, while Lovie is just exasperated.
Bears won't say if a change will occur on the OL.
Tommie Harris is practicing and Adewale Ogunleye sidelined.
Jump forth, young ones....
Four ways to fix the season.
Neil Hayes: Time for Lovie to earn the big bucks.
Frank Omiyale is heading to the bench.
Chicago Tribune
The Gridiron Greats announce an expanded medical program.
Dan Pompei's mailbag.
CSN Chicago
The Bears are honoring Walter Payton on Sunday.
John Mullin's Week 8 NFC North Power Rankings.
Top 10 list, Ochocinco style.
Nick Roach is struggling in the middle.
Daily Herald
Tommie Harris actually practiced! Huzzah!
Bob LeGere: It doesn't look good for the Bears, but it's not over yet.
ESPN Chicago
Lovie Smith lashed out at Mike Mulligan about a simple personnel question. Read this article and you'll understand the Den tag.
The Mangenius praises Derek Anderson and Mohamed Massaquoi.
Josh Cribbs wants the Bears to kick it to him.
Wednesday's injury report.
Kevin Shaffer (bad) talks about Derek Anderson and Brady Quinn.
Tommie Harris practiced yesterday. I know, I did a double take too.
Frank Omiyale - Josh Beekman switcheroo isn't the only switch this week; Hunter Hillenmeyer is starting in the middle.
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Pompei needs to do more research
He said Richard Seymour never played in the middle of the line… he did for the first two years of his career with the Patriots…
by firebirdsix7 on Oct 29, 2009 1:22 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
wow, lovie resorted to using jedi mind tricks, we are in deep trouble
“I don’t want to give the opponent an advantage. We want them to wonder what we’re going to do, just like you are right now
Listen, I really dont care why you, lovie, want to keep personnel changes such a tight kept secret. All I care about is a W…..If you can rack up 3 or 4 W’s in a row, then you can make and keep all the secrets you want. You can even play in the secret garden for all I care, just F’in WIN games. And I appreciate your jedi tactic of not letting your opponent know your strategy, but win games the old fashioned, tried and true way first, do us all that favor, A-hole!
by chi_till_eye_die on Oct 29, 2009 1:54 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Problem is, it looked like our own players were wondering what his secret plan was.
"The trouble with the world is that the stupid are cocksure and the intelligent are full of doubt." - Bertrand Russell
"F*** everybody outside of Halas Hall. BEARDOWN" - WavyGravy
by Spongie on Oct 29, 2009 1:56 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
The more Lovie talks, the more I wish he was mute. I get pissed off that he has no fire or passion when he speaks of HIS team, then he says something like this?
I guess all Bears fans were wondering wth you were doing last Sunday while your team was getting picked apart and fed to the cats.
by brands735 on Oct 29, 2009 8:21 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I've accepted that Lovie's not going anywhere
by SaintCee on Oct 29, 2009 2:11 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Ack, add this to the above post
So we need to find a Defensive Coordinator. Maybe Lovie could do the job if he wasn’t Head Coach, but since we can’t get rid of him as HC we need an actual DC. Not the conglomeration of Lovie/Rod/Bob (there’s your new nickname thread). Changes plural need to be made throughout the game, not just the one change at half time.
And a new Offensive line coach. Pleeeeez.
by SaintCee on Oct 29, 2009 2:18 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
bob the love rod?
no, lovie couldn’t do the job even if he wasn’t the HC. the cover two is dead as a main defensive philosophy, it can be used situationally but that’s it. lovie was never taught anything else and he obviously can’t think on his own.
by genetic on Oct 29, 2009 7:50 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Trust me Lovie, we know.
That’s how it’s been throughout [my time here]. It’s not like there’s something new I’m coming up with right now."
by rdent4hof on Oct 29, 2009 8:11 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
For those doubting Beekman will be an improvement...
From KC Joyner on ESPN:
“Beekman’s 85.7% POA win rate ranked him tied for 15th among left guards in that metric. Another way to look at it is that Beekman was in the upper half of guards in run
blocking so putting him back in the lineup could provide immediate improvement.”
Just his opinion but the point of attack (POA) stat is interesting.
by brands735 on Oct 29, 2009 8:18 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
My thoughts, exactly
Beekman is an upgrade over Omiyale and he should help Forte’s numbers, over the rest of the season.
by JimmyMack on Oct 29, 2009 8:37 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Just me
But I’m more worried about him in pass protection. I know Omiyale gave up a bunch of sacks, but Beekman’s a little guy.
I'M A MAN! I'M 23!
by ChiFan13 on Oct 29, 2009 10:30 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Minimal size difference
Beekman is listed as 2 inches shorter and 5 lbs lighter than Omiyale on chicagobears.com
by brands735 on Oct 29, 2009 10:43 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
But, you know those two inches means a lot
Would you be happier with a QB that was 6’4" or 6’2"?
Would you like a receiver to be 6’1" or 5’11"?
Regardless, I hope Beekman can make a difference. The OL can’t get any worse.
I'M A MAN! I'M 23!
by ChiFan13 on Oct 29, 2009 10:47 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
C'mon now
It is obvious that height advantage is a bigger deal for WRs than lineman. For lineman, it isn’t always height or weight; it is a lot of strength too. The theory was supposed to be the Omiyale is stronger than Beekman who is sorta just another fat guy.
Who knows, with those 2 less inches, he has a lower center of gravity and may be able hold position better. Regardless, I wouldnt consider Beekman a little guy compared to Omiyale.
by brands735 on Oct 29, 2009 11:38 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Well, that's true to a point
However, wingspan also helped linemen out. The shorter you are, the less wingspan you have.
I would consider Beekman to be a little guy compared to Omiyale, just because of his height. I know Omiyale weighs 5 pounds more, but still.
I'M A MAN! I'M 23!
by ChiFan13 on Oct 29, 2009 3:49 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Since Guards have a narrower channel to work in than Tackles, would wingspan be more important for the latter?
"The trouble with the world is that the stupid are cocksure and the intelligent are full of doubt." - Bertrand Russell
"F*** everybody outside of Halas Hall. BEARDOWN" - WavyGravy
by Spongie on Oct 29, 2009 4:03 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Picking up fumbles?
Meh, I’m reaching on that one…
Be nice. Flag comments that you think are offensive. Use the "reply" button. Drink plenty of water. Compliment others. Rec (wreck) comments and posts you like. Don't call people names. If you don't like someone's comment, attack the comment and not the commentor. Learn the difference in your/you're, then/than, to/too. Exercise. Relax. Stretch often. Find good in the world.
Just because it can be done on Madden NFL does not automatically make it a viable option in real life.
by Dane Noble on Oct 29, 2009 4:05 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yes
Still, if you’re 6’2" with a shorter wingspan than most, you’ll get pushed around more than not.
I hope Beekman does well. I really do. I’m just worried.
I'M A MAN! I'M 23!
by ChiFan13 on Oct 29, 2009 4:33 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
He did okay last year
and from what we’ve seen from “Frank is our starting Guard” has been far less than “okay”
so i wouldn’t worry, on par play, is a huge step up at this point
"Hey, the offensive linemen are the biggest guys on the field, they're bigger than everybody else, and that's what make them the biggest guys on the field." -Madden
by BearNecessities on Oct 29, 2009 4:35 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Maybe Beekman can wear lifts in his shoes/heals for the games to increase his height. Hell, I think Omiyale was wearing high heals the way he was blocking and almost falling over.
by brands735 on Oct 29, 2009 4:13 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I’m not sure I’d want to see him in the Lingerie Bowl…..
"The trouble with the world is that the stupid are cocksure and the intelligent are full of doubt." - Bertrand Russell
"F*** everybody outside of Halas Hall. BEARDOWN" - WavyGravy
by Spongie on Oct 29, 2009 4:23 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Beekman was primed for a good season this year, I think he’ll be fine
and Hunter is a better MLB than Roach as far as the mental part of the game, Roach will be fine at the SOLB
by Lester A. Wiltfong Jr. on Oct 29, 2009 8:34 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Panic Button
It appears the Bears squad, coaching staff, and management are in full-fledged panic mode. Could someone please get me a panic mode graphic?
by ClawsClawsClaws on Oct 29, 2009 9:14 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
SoulEater & Stumpo
Soul – I agreed with your post, but you can’t drop the f-bomb all over it. Game threads? Different story. Clean it up a little bit.
Stumpo – Avoid calling Lovie a re____. I know you would like to end his life if you could, but don’t use that word.
I'M A MAN! I'M 23!
by ChiFan13 on Oct 29, 2009 9:42 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
really?
We can’t use the word re_ard, the FCC has this site on lock down?
Its called the duck theory, if it looks like a duck(tard)…, sorry for calling them like i see them
by stumpo on Oct 29, 2009 10:21 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
It's more about being considerate to others
Do you have a child that suffers from mental retardation? Or know someone who is?
I hate the PC culture we have in America, but be considerate and find another word for it. Pretty simple. Or, you can keep using the word and you’ll end up banned. That work for ya?
I'M A MAN! I'M 23!
by ChiFan13 on Oct 29, 2009 10:26 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
i've used
stupid… and that seems to be on the level so far.
"Hey, the offensive linemen are the biggest guys on the field, they're bigger than everybody else, and that's what make them the biggest guys on the field." -Madden
by BearNecessities on Oct 29, 2009 1:46 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
so... I guess I am rooting for a Packers win this weekend.
just threw up in my mouth a lil bit.
by No It All on Oct 29, 2009 10:27 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I'm going to watch the game
Just to watch the fan reaction when he comes on the field as a Viking.
I'M A MAN! I'M 23!
by ChiFan13 on Oct 29, 2009 10:29 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
yeah it should be crazy
finally got a bobblehead of Favre in a vikings jersey to stick needles in during games. it worked last week!
by No It All on Oct 29, 2009 10:35 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
What!
we went through this last time. never root for the packers. EVER.
i dont see anyway we really catch Minn (so far) so the Packers losing helps us stay within reach
"Hey, the offensive linemen are the biggest guys on the field, they're bigger than everybody else, and that's what make them the biggest guys on the field." -Madden
by BearNecessities on Oct 29, 2009 1:47 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Holy Moly
Lovie must have spent the off season hangin’ out with Yoda, or perhaps the real master….Dumbgini…get over it Smith and coach up or get coached up your damn self
"most football players are temperamental, thats 90 percent temper and 10 percent mental" Doug Plank
by fin4bears on Oct 29, 2009 11:03 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Happy with changes
This is a good day for us: Beekman will be an upgrade over Omiyale, and it makes sense to have Hunter calling the plays in the middle (with Roach still in the starting line-up).
Hopefully we unveil some tweaks in the scheme on D as well (no “mug” looks, CBs pressing WRs at the line, maybe some blitzs from the sides).
by MakeHalasProud on Oct 29, 2009 12:11 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Beekman isn’t starting over Omiyale yet. All that has been said is that he is getting some reps with the 1st squad, nothing about him officially taking over
by brands735 on Oct 29, 2009 12:21 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm not sure what's happening at the line
but even with HH in there, the mug look is prevelant, dunno what it has to do with though
"Hey, the offensive linemen are the biggest guys on the field, they're bigger than everybody else, and that's what make them the biggest guys on the field." -Madden
by BearNecessities on Oct 29, 2009 1:48 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Suntimes article listing the litany of injured Bears. I know some members here have wondered if our conditioning and medical staff are up to scratch.
"The trouble with the world is that the stupid are cocksure and the intelligent are full of doubt." - Bertrand Russell
"F*** everybody outside of Halas Hall. BEARDOWN" - WavyGravy
by Spongie on Oct 29, 2009 2:48 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Hey now....
I am really confused here. Are the Bears 3-3, or 0-6? Seriously. The loss to the Bungels was heart-breaking. It was a blow-out. The Bears looked bad in every facet of the game. So, what now? Fire the GM, Coach, OC, DC (LB Coach), Owners, players? They call that the bandwagon-syndrome. Nothing, IMHO, that happened during the game warrants wholesale changes in philosophy. The coaches got jobbed. The players got worked. The fans got robbed. Yes, yes, and yes! Still, the Bears are 3-3. And they will turn this around this week. The Bears D has, thus far, lost Brian Urlacher (the HEART of the Defense), Dusty Dvorachek, and Mike Brown (the LEADER on Defense). They played the last game without Pisa Tinoisimoa (sp?) and Tommie Harris. Nick Roach wasn’t ready to replace Urlacher. Hillenmeyer isn’t either, IMO, but he’ll do far better than Roach. And before anyone says we need someone new, anybody who can run AND read Offenses half as good as Urlacher is starting for someone else. The Offense (including the Line) will continue to improve as they build chemistry. The Defense will continue to improve as they gain experience. The problem? We don’t seem to have the patience to wait for that. We all seem to believe that Cutler’s acquisition was supposed to automatically propell us to the SB; regardless of WHO our receivers were or who got injured on Defense.
Now, I don’t sincerely know if anyone from the Bears’ roster reads these blogs. They all say they don’t read any media reports. But, in the rare event someone from the Team should happen to wander onto this awesome venue, my message would be “Bear Down! I’ll root for the Bears until my last breath!” That and God help Cleveland!! Go Bears!!!
Getcha Beernuts Ready!
by Fly1965 on Oct 31, 2009 12:45 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
The Offense (including the Line) will continue to improve as they build chemistry. The Defense will continue to improve as they gain experience. The problem? We don’t seem to have the patience to wait for that.
They’ll be awesome by the time we reach week 17 and are sitting at 7-8.
"The trouble with the world is that the stupid are cocksure and the intelligent are full of doubt." - Bertrand Russell
"F*** everybody outside of Halas Hall. BEARDOWN" - WavyGravy
by Spongie on Nov 1, 2009 3:10 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
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