Bears Defense Come To Play - Bears Win 30-6
by Adam T on Nov 1, 2009 3:17 PM CST
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On a day the Bears honored Walter Payton on the 10th anniversary of his death, the Bears put on a defensive show at the expense of the Cleveland Browns. The Bears defense recovered 3 fumbles and intercepted 2 passes, the last for a Charles Tillman TD return.
The offense had great field position most of the day and while not doing much with it in the earlier possessions did find the end zone on a pair of Forte TD runs on later ones.
The Bears have 5 of the next 7 games at home, this stretch is where the Bears need to make a move. But to do that they are going to have to fix or find some patches for this offensive line. Jay Cutler was sacked 4 times and was under pressure for most of the day. Forte showed some signs of life today, if the line can start opening some holes Forte is ready to get this thing moving.
Stats
Jay Cutler : 225 yards, 1 INT
Matt Forte: 90 yards, 2 TDs
Devin Hester: 7 receptions and 81 yards.
Garrett Wolfe: 5 runs for 53 yards
Next Week: We get to see if we are still who we thought we were when the Cardinals come to Chicago.
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Not the best offensive push ever..
But man, the takeaways were all over the place..that excites me..and forte too
by Pretender85 on Nov 1, 2009 3:33 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Good D always makes me happy
The O needs to step it up. We should’ve won by much more, lets see the D play solid again next week and we might have something going here.
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by Ditkavsworld on Nov 1, 2009 3:45 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
I think the Bears won.
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by SoulEater7 on Nov 1, 2009 3:48 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
i'm still concerned about the D
they didn’t really generate a ton of pressure. the o-line was pretty awful, per usual. cutler was roughed up badly, and cleveland isn’t that good of a defense to be doing that to us.
by guy incognito on Nov 1, 2009 3:53 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
I'm concerned about the O
Boy, they had good field position all game and could only muster 30 points against a horrible team.
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by propheteer on Nov 1, 2009 4:02 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Man, Cutler got hit every time he dropped back to pass.
That guy is going to be getting Hazardous Duty Pay playing behind our O-Line.
That’s not true!!! WHY THE F*CK WOULD YOU SAY THAT YOU AHOLE!! Ok maybe your right but you gotta give a little something here for it to work. I don’t know what I’m going to do this is the worst thing I’ve ever read, this day could not get any worse. Fine, F*ck it, you’re right.
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by gaclaudy on Nov 1, 2009 4:27 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
more like retirement pay
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by BearNecessities on Nov 1, 2009 4:37 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
in the line's defense
Rob Ryan was dialing up some pretty zany blitz pacakages. It was apparent that Beekman made a difference.
by Cosmis on Nov 1, 2009 6:35 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
but there are ways around this
throw a lot of short slant patterns, screens, etc…our line is pretty clearly not going to open up many running lanes, and can’t keep a clean pocket for cutler often, so we might as well work with it. if you can’t protect your qb long enough for deep plays, run short stuff ’til the defenses bring fewer guys, which then opens things up. we need a lot more 7 yard slant patterns, 8 yard curls, etc.
by guy incognito on Nov 1, 2009 7:55 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Is anyone surprised?
Going out and getting Cutler so he can play behind our line is like showing up to prom driving a ’76 Pacer:
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by JimmyMack on Nov 1, 2009 6:48 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
This is what happens
when a pacer Chicago Bears line make contact with something…
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by propheteer on Nov 1, 2009 6:57 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
*makes*
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by propheteer on Nov 1, 2009 7:21 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Not very optimistic
about the rest of the year, cause the offensive looks ordinary with not much creativity as usual from Turner. Not enough misdirection, screens (I didn’t see one all game today), draws, etc. Also, the defensive line was pretty mediocre against a sub-par Browns line.
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by propheteer on Nov 1, 2009 4:05 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
I agree completely
I’ll always take a win, but I don’t think we did anything great. The Browns are definitely worse than the Lions, even last year’s version of the Lions, in my opinion. Our d-line was mediocre, as you described, and if there is a worse QB than Derek Anderson in the NFL, I don’t know who it is….and don’t say Rex, even he could throw better than this guy.
Offensively, we sucked. I don’t care about 30 points. We should have broken 50 with the 5 turnovers and great field position. Getting turned away at the goal line at 1st and goal from the 2 was embarrassing, especially since we took all 4 shots at it. Our offensive line is terrible and I’m afraid they have even made Jay gun shy. He looked worse today than he has all year, even when he had the time. The only really good throw he made was the long sideline pass to Knox. I really think he looks defeated because he knows his running game is terrible, the offensive line stinks, and his coaches should all be fired. I saw his post game interview and he was asked about his exchange with Rob Ryan. His face lit up talking about how much he loves Rob Ryan and feels like he’s one of the best coaches in the league. The thing he kept bringing up was how you can always see how much the guys who play for him are excited and have fun. Maybe I was reading too much into it, but it was almost an indictment of the Bears coaching staff and what stiffs they are.
I’ll wait for next week’s game against a real offense before I say the defense is back. My gut feel is Warner and crew will reveal exactly what kind of team we have on the defensive side of the ball. I hope I’m wrong, but I don’t think so.
by BearFan611 on Nov 1, 2009 4:20 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Some of it a bit of a stretch
but certainly can be construed that way. I wouldn’t be the least bit surprised to learn that Cutler hates Turner’s play calling and ultra-conservative nature.
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by propheteer on Nov 1, 2009 4:37 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Good post BF611
All the way around. With all the takeways they should’ve scored 50.
Cutler probably like’s Ryan cause his guys play with passsion. Like Singletary’s guys.
Before the season started (and even now) nobody talks about how great the talent is in SF on the defensive side of the ball.
Singletary’s guys sack Manning three times (he was only sacked three times in the previous six games) and deny Manning a TD pass in the game.
Some coaches are better than others when it comes to getting their guys to play.
by GeoMak on Nov 1, 2009 5:05 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I think all Singletary has to do to motivate* his guys to play well is to show them footage of him at #50, waiting for the snap, literally steaming with hostility as he prepared to launch himself like a missile at the middle of the offense and Ditka have mercy on anything that got in the way. 20 years later and that’s still my abiding memory of the man as a player.
- and by “motivate” I mean “scare”
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by Spongie on Nov 1, 2009 5:14 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I kid, of course
Da Coach didn’t know the meaning of “mercy” :-D
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by Spongie on Nov 1, 2009 5:19 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Agreed
This win does little to encourage me about the rest of the season. We looked pretty sloppy on both lines and in other areas — I don’t see a killer instinct in this team. I hope I am wrong.
by Sweetness Never Dies on Nov 1, 2009 6:38 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I saw
Two bubble screens and 1 draw play.I really don’t think this “lack of creativity” is on Turner.Cutler made some mistakes yesterday reading coverage,mostly due to the fact that the Browns were waiting to the last second to tip their hand on coverage and blitz packages.
Cutler’s running for his life back there,but even on the plays where he had 5+ seconds he had a hard time making a decision. Whether it’s indicitive of the O-Line,Jay Cutler making mistakes,or a great defensive game called by Ryan,I’m beginning to think everyone hates Turner because it’s easy to.
You're being very Un-Dude right now.
by IslandBoodler87 on Nov 2, 2009 8:56 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
O-line and play calling were horrendous.
Nice to see the turnovers but this win doesn’t make me feel better about the team. Time to go, Turner. Pace appears to be beyond any relevant use. Let Omiyale get some reps at LT. Damn you, Rashied.
by PolishSausage.Ditka.Bears. on Nov 1, 2009 4:20 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
It's clear what needs to happen in the offseason.
1. Fire Ron Turner/ bring in someone creative
2. Revamp the offensive line
3. Find a defensive Tackle, End, Safety
4. They need a 2nd RB to pare with Forte.
5. Get Urlacher, Pisa healthy
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by SoulEater7 on Nov 1, 2009 4:21 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
still hatin on Wolfe
comon every time he plays hard and still, we need another rb
by DaHamsta on Nov 1, 2009 4:36 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
he was not being tackled
by less than 3 browns when he was in.
I know it was garbage time, but he ran HARD today.
by Cosmis on Nov 1, 2009 6:37 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
running hard, I will give him that
but he can’t break a tackle and he is a definite liabilty in the passing game from a blocking standpoint.
Roach love the run stuffin', but don't forget about the TE over the middle!!
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by tfrabotta on Nov 1, 2009 6:46 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
A smart team could find a role for 3 RBs
Look at the Giants last year with Jacobs, Ward, and Bradshaw. They all have different strengths and were used in different situations. Wolfe may never been even a solid committee back, but that doesn’t mean he has no value to the team.
by madcow256 on Nov 2, 2009 10:04 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Just got back from the game
has to be Turner’s worst game plan for the year. Our third down play calling was horrid. There were no plays called over the middle to our wr’s. No drag routes, curls, etc..Cutler had nothing to throw to all day. Not one screen pass to Forte al lday and the middle was wide open. Did anyone else notice who was playing free safety for the browns today??? Mike freaking Furrey a wr. How we can not take advantage of that I don’t know..
Roach love the run stuffin', but don't forget about the TE over the middle!!
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by tfrabotta on Nov 1, 2009 4:24 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Where's all the Bronco fans to talk smack today?
Anyone, Anyone?
That’s not true!!! WHY THE F*CK WOULD YOU SAY THAT YOU AHOLE!! Ok maybe your right but you gotta give a little something here for it to work. I don’t know what I’m going to do this is the worst thing I’ve ever read, this day could not get any worse. Fine, F*ck it, you’re right.
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by gaclaudy on Nov 1, 2009 4:28 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Donkey fans
They’re all happy Orton didn’t credited with 3 easy Ints by the Ravens. Seriously, that’s how fortunate this guy has been so far this year. Cutler gets a questionable pass intercepted (touched the ground), while Orton threw directly to the defenders each time.
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by propheteer on Nov 1, 2009 4:35 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
What Orton the Great average 6 yards per pass?
Orton is not a bad QB, but those people over MHR compared him to Montana, I KID YOU NOT.
That’s not true!!! WHY THE F*CK WOULD YOU SAY THAT YOU AHOLE!! Ok maybe your right but you gotta give a little something here for it to work. I don’t know what I’m going to do this is the worst thing I’ve ever read, this day could not get any worse. Fine, F*ck it, you’re right.
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by gaclaudy on Nov 1, 2009 5:16 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
He picked it up at bit. At halftime I think he was 10-15 for 35 yards.
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by Spongie on Nov 1, 2009 5:20 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Cutler needs to call His Plays.........
I strongly believe that Cutler is talented enough to call his own plays and audibilize at the line of scrimmage. He needs to stay healthy for the long stretch and with these weak ass plays Turner is calling he becomes a constant target for the Defenses to punish him just let him loose and see if he can make things happen with His Damn plays before he’s sitting on the sideline like Urlacher!
by payton#34 on Nov 1, 2009 4:36 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
this statement is
Bold
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by BearNecessities on Nov 1, 2009 4:39 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
very bold, but not powerful.
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by Ditkavsworld on Nov 1, 2009 4:45 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
sure isn't
i was just stating the facts, good sir
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by BearNecessities on Nov 1, 2009 4:48 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I know you were
nad that sir is somewhat powerful.
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by Ditkavsworld on Nov 1, 2009 4:50 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
nad and
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by Ditkavsworld on Nov 1, 2009 4:51 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
He needs to rattle on about books, coaches, Singletary, Landry (etc.) and use random BLOCK capitals.
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by Spongie on Nov 1, 2009 4:48 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Very TRue.
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by Ditkavsworld on Nov 1, 2009 4:50 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
The worst 30-6 blowout ever?
The problems with offense are many and obvious. It was the defense, however, that made me sick to my stomach. Yes, they only gave up six points, but it wasn’t like they were making stops out there all day. Rather, the Browns just screwed up so often it made the Bears look good. the Bears couldn’t stop the run, and didn’t need to stop the pass, because Anderson can’t throw. What I would have liked to see was some actual defense being played.
Who would have thought I would have felt worse about the team after a blowout win?
by mac30 on Nov 1, 2009 4:52 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
I don't think it was the greatest Defensive performance but...
they played better than you are giving them credit. They did what a defense is suppose to do by creating turnovers and giving the offense great field position. It’s not the fault of the D that we had to settle for 3 field goals in the first half. Hell they even scored on defense. I’m not saying they were the greatest ever and yes I know we played the Browns however there’s a thing called being too critical. They played well, give them that. The offense worries me more with the performace they had.
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by Ditkavsworld on Nov 1, 2009 5:11 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
The turnovers were lucky
with one exception – the strip of Massaqoui, but otherwise they were Browns mistakes, not good Bears defense. With a halfway competent team they would have marched up and down the field against us.
by mac30 on Nov 1, 2009 5:48 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
it was a great athletic play
but on a terribly thrown ball
don’t get me wrong, I’m happy they got those turnovers, its just that against a decent team, they maybe get one or two, and in the mean time the other team is going up and down the field.
by mac30 on Nov 1, 2009 5:56 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Right
It was a terrible pass. Most INT’s are. And most DB’s don’t make that catch.
Look I’m as critical of their defense as anybody. And the Browns are clearly one of the worst teams in the NFL.
But the Bears held them to 202 yards. If their offense could do anything with most of those takeaways and the corresponding great field position, they should’ve scored 50+ points.
by GeoMak on Nov 1, 2009 6:17 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Great INT by Manning
I think he’s the future at FS. He has the skills to be dominant back there.
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by propheteer on Nov 1, 2009 6:52 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Dre Bly dropped an INT
that you or I could’ve caught that would’ve sealed the deal late in the game when the 49ers played the Vikings. He catches that ball right in his hands/chest and the 49ers win. Game over. No miracle finish by Favre.
He dropped another easy one today against the Colts that would’ve been huge.
Right to him.
And then you watch Manning make an unbelievable catch today.
Sometimes it’s hard to figure these guys out.
by GeoMak on Nov 1, 2009 7:02 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Bly is just not very good
and old.
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by propheteer on Nov 1, 2009 7:19 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
He's still a good player.
Besides that, his father (or his mother) probably could’ve caught those two balls.
by GeoMak on Nov 1, 2009 7:32 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
look on the bright side
fewer INTs, means fewer fumbles too. lol
by TrialsBass on Nov 1, 2009 9:07 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
The playcalling was horrible
especially on third down. I think our offense going forward is going to be 3 wr and TE spread it out and run or pass out of this formation most of the time. We are now the Ariz Cardinals and we have no choice. Thank God Derek Andersen is horrible.
Roach love the run stuffin', but don't forget about the TE over the middle!!
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by tfrabotta on Nov 1, 2009 5:19 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
We are now the Ariz Cardinals
If we, too, can have 3 WRs who each get over 1,000 yards, I’ll be impressed…..
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by Spongie on Nov 1, 2009 5:22 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I freaking called Hester returning one and of course freaking Davis had to screw it up.
Great special teamer………………..this is why I was in the Rideau Fan Clup
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by ANYTIME09 on Nov 1, 2009 6:33 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Did you see the replay?
Bad, bad call on Davis.
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by propheteer on Nov 1, 2009 6:51 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah didn't look like a hold to me.
Again proving Davis can’t hold onto anything.
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by Ditkavsworld on Nov 1, 2009 6:55 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Worst O Line In NFL
We have to have the worst O line in the NFL and we are gona get cutler killed, he’s scarred and rushing his throws, give him a few seconds and he’ll light you up, but he can even hit a sceen pass with out geting crashed, he took a beating and sooner or later he’ll end up on IR, too bad we have no picks were gona need em, pray for the free agency gods because we suck
by cutlersbutler on Nov 1, 2009 6:50 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
JA will hit up FA big time
That’s his only real option at this point.
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by propheteer on Nov 1, 2009 6:58 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Sadly I agree
We’ve already established the problems with run blocking, but the pass protection was especially awful today. The fact that we let the #32 ranked defense in the NFL sack JC 4 times today is shameful. You could argue that the GB line is worse, but I don’t think Rodgers got sacked at all vs the Browns, and he eats the most sacks in the league. AR has a tendency to hang on to the ball too long though.
It’s so disappointing that we finally have a good QB, and the never gets time to set his feet before he throws, throw a deep ball, or wait for a receiver to open up.
by TrialsBass on Nov 1, 2009 9:50 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
i didn't watch the game...
but anyone have any comments on how beekman played while in the lineup?
by Nih1lus on Nov 1, 2009 7:05 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
I can only speak from being at the game
but he looked okay. I think better than Omiyale but I wouldn’t say he looked great.
Roach love the run stuffin', but don't forget about the TE over the middle!!
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by tfrabotta on Nov 1, 2009 7:14 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I would have to watch it again
Maybe on NFLN this week.
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by propheteer on Nov 1, 2009 7:20 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Caught only a few highlights...
but Beekman knows what he’s doing and executed fairly well. He needs to continue as the starter because he will get better with more reps, whereas Omiyale hit the capability wall in the Steelers game.
Otherwise, the defense looked more like it had in ‘05 and ’06 with the turnovers. Not to say they played well, but if they can create turnovers, they can hold their own. But let’s face it, this is perhaps the worst offense in the NFL and if the Browns had any consistency this could have been a much different game.
Not sold on Manning at FS mostly because he’s constantly out of position which tells me he isn’t smart enough to succeed long term. He can remain at nickel and be used more in pressure than coverage and be useful.
Bowman needs to work on his fundamentals, plain and simple; try keeping your head up on those tackles Zack!
This should have been a blowout similar to what the Bengals did last week, but a win is a start. I saw the players step up at every position, but i am still worried about the play calling on both sides. I am waiting to see either line simply manhandle the opposition before I can say the players and coaches are on the same page.
Lastly, I think the Bears can still find a FA short yardage back. This team does not make the playoffs if they cannot gain 2 yards on 4 plays against a terrible Browns D.
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by LostInSTL on Nov 1, 2009 7:40 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I agree and disagree
I can’t be real happy about this game today, but obviously they won and can try to build on it against a Cards team that doesn’t play well on the road.
I like D. Manning at FS; he’s a playmaker, and playmakers belong on the field every snap.
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by propheteer on Nov 1, 2009 7:46 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
yes but
Manning was drafted to play safety, and had trouble with reads… lets not get carried away from one INT against the worst QB.
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by BearNecessities on Nov 1, 2009 7:47 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Would you rather have Payne or Vasher at FS?
Not me. Besides, it’s not like the kid has gotten a fair shake since being drafted. To succeed, don’t you think he needs more reps than what little he’s had so far?
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by propheteer on Nov 1, 2009 7:51 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Manning is one of the best athletes on the team
He just needs to continue to learn the position and make the reads.
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by JimmyMack on Nov 1, 2009 9:34 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
yes but
they’ve tried that already, i’m just saying installing Manning as our defacto FS and calling it a day, because he had an INT against Derek Anderson…would be… un smart.
there has been discussions since he was drafted about why he isn’t fitting in a Safety, why he originally moved to nickel in the first place.
just dont be surprised when we play a real team, and he gets burned.
we still need a real FS
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by BearNecessities on Nov 1, 2009 9:58 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Real free-safeties
sometimes get burned. They can’t all be like Ed Reed, Brian Dawkins, or Oshiomogho Atogwe. I’ve never said we should keep him there if he struggles a lot, but at least give him a chance to get a comfort level within the defense at that position.
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by propheteer on Nov 1, 2009 11:34 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I'm gonna respectfully disagree...
Manning has been solid this year. From Green Bay till now. Not only did he have the INT, but he also had a nice strip yesterday… Plus, the big knock on him in the past has been getting caught out of position… I haven’t noticed that, nearly as much this year. In fact, I’ve only noticed steady improvement from Manning in 2009.
there has been discussions since he was drafted about why he isn’t fitting in a Safety, why he originally moved to nickel in the first place
Remember DMS? I blame his slow development on Lovie…
As long as Lovie keeps him at FS, IMHO, Manning will be an above average (or better) FS for a while.
by rdent4hof on Nov 2, 2009 9:34 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Not a coincidence
We’re finally seeing some progress from him at FS because he’s seeing more reps than ever before.
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by propheteer on Nov 2, 2009 10:21 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
forgive me
for being skeptical… i’m a Bears fan
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by BearNecessities on Nov 2, 2009 12:59 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
You're forgiven :)
I’m quite the skeptic as well.
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by propheteer on Nov 2, 2009 1:28 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I just know it… if i root for manning and get excited with him at FS, he’s a lock to screw it up, or get injured… so if i stay skeptical, maybe he’ll be in the pro bowl
"Hey, the offensive linemen are the biggest guys on the field, they're bigger than everybody else, and that's what make them the biggest guys on the field." -Madden
by BearNecessities on Nov 2, 2009 2:05 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
He does pretty much suck
What a waste of talent….shhhh, we’ll just pretend so he doesn’t hear us praise him.
"Repetition is only good when you've been winning." - Valet
by propheteer on Nov 2, 2009 2:22 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
+1
"Hey, the offensive linemen are the biggest guys on the field, they're bigger than everybody else, and that's what make them the biggest guys on the field." -Madden
by BearNecessities on Nov 2, 2009 4:26 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
uh...with our o-line, there aren't a lot of RBs that get those 2 yards
i wouldn’t mind another RB, but yeah, if we keep getting blown off the ball, i don’t think it matters much. forte is running a bit timid, but still, the line is the real issue here.
by guy incognito on Nov 1, 2009 7:52 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
NFLN
showed some omi won kenobi highlights… and on one play, he didnt even block anyone… and the others were very similar.. it basically called him out.
so Beekman just lining up today made a difference
"Hey, the offensive linemen are the biggest guys on the field, they're bigger than everybody else, and that's what make them the biggest guys on the field." -Madden
by BearNecessities on Nov 1, 2009 7:46 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I didnt see
any of the sacks or hits come from the guys Beekman blocked today.
by GtM on Nov 1, 2009 7:56 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
nope
but having beekman in there, made Pace look worse too. instead of wondering which of em was letting the guys through,,,it is simple, both of them were
"Hey, the offensive linemen are the biggest guys on the field, they're bigger than everybody else, and that's what make them the biggest guys on the field." -Madden
by BearNecessities on Nov 1, 2009 9:59 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Would have been nice....
to win 34-6 in honor of Walter!!! Also… we lost BIG to GB last year and bounced back the SAME WAY against ST. Louis…. But what is that really saying… cuz Cleveland and St. Louis are just bad teams… if we didint bounce back like that… especially at HOME… what would that say about US!!! We are playing better than I expected considering the fact that we are on 3rd string LB’s and all kinds of new people in new places!!! BEAR DOWN!!!
GO BEARS!!!!
by ChiTownSounds on Nov 2, 2009 7:23 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
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