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The Quotable Bears - Week Eight

I really don't know what to make of this game....there were some positive things and some lingering questions that we can take from this game.

I'll run through the 5 things I know:

1) Matt Forte is still not right

I'm going to stress this early: It's not all of his fault. Our OL is abysmal.

At the same time, some of it is his fault. I don't know why but he's developed "Ceddy feet" - Benson used to always shuffle, hesitate, and hit the hole. Unfortunately, Forte has found that habit to be quite delightful. He needs to change that ASAP.

2) Jay Cutler will still have to lead this team

Whether we go 13-3 or 4-12, this is Jay's team. He didn't have the best performance today, but it was good enough. I was impressed with him throwing a few balls away - that's something I haven't seen him do in quite a while.

Also, he's a tough SOB. Having a 350 lbs angry man land on you can't feel good, but he hopped up and was ready to roll.

And I do like his moxie. I like having our QB yelling at the other team's DC. Go ahead and think about past Bears QB's who would have done the same AND have his play back it up. I'm coming up with a grand total of none.

Star-divide

3) DL: Still bad

I should probably start by saying that the DE's show flashes of brilliance at times. The DT's have been unnoticeable thus far.

Don't let their performance today fool you. The Browns aren't a very good squad and I'm sure you all know that. I missed a few parts of the game, but I didn't notice Gaines Adams at all. Ogunleye and Brown were hard to miss, but I couldn't find Adams.

4) Hunter is our MLB

I know, I know. Strange to hear those words, especially from me, huh?

Well, Hunter just understands the position better, and it showed. Whether there were problems with communication or just not being in the right spot, Roach wasn't the guy. And that's totally fine. Roach seemed more comfortable at the Sam.

Regardless, I never, ever want to see Hunter at the Sam again.

5) Don't base too many of your opinions of this team based on this game

Folks, we played the Cleveland Browns. It's kind of like a varsity HS team playing the freshmen.

Can our guys take things from this game and learn from them? I hope so. If they don't, we have a real problem. Just try not to get too pumped based on the fact that we beat the Browns. And please remember that we didn't look so hot in beating them either.

Anyways, let's push onward.

Lovie on the offense:

"Winning performance is what I would say. We had opportunities with the takeaways. You would like touchdowns, but we got field goals. When you're not having your best offensive day, you can't turn the ball over and have bad plays like that and we didn't. Today we were able to get some points when the defense got the takeaways, which was big. Of course we'd like to be able to get touchdowns, and Jay got hit a few more times than we would like for him to today. But 30 points up on the board, you like to see that."

Lovie on the defense:

"Defensively, that's what we've been looking for. That's a part of our philosophy, our approach to winning football games. I think you have to get takeaways on defense and you have to be good on third-down conversions, which we were."

Lovie on Danieal Manning:

"We've been waiting for a day like that from Danieal."

Ron Turner on the offense:

"We've got to play better. We didn't execute well enough. I'll look at it, see what we need to do to give us a chance to get better, and if we're doing too much, we'll cut back. Obviously, we are because we're making too many mistakes. Just have to figure out what we do well, and that's what we'll do. We've got to take a good look at what we're doing and make sure we're not doing too much because we're making too many mistakes that we shouldn't be making."

Jay Cutler on the offense:

"In every respect offensively possible we've got to get better. We need to make more plays if we're going to beat some really quality teams in the future."

Jay Cutler on Cleveland DC Rob Ryan:

"I love Rob Ryan. I think that he has always liked and respected me. I think he's a great coach, and you can just hear the energy he brings on the sidelines for those guys. I've always enjoyed playing and competing against him. I think he's one of the best in football. I've always enjoyed going against the guy."

Jay Cutler on whether he can keep getting beat up week after week:

"Hopefully I won't find out. Shaun Rodgers is a big guy. So every time he hits you, that counts for two."

Josh Beekman on his performance:

"I got Jay hit on one of the protections out there. I can't let that happen. But there are going to be plays like that, so [we need to] keep battling. I just didn't have my feet under me. The coaching technique was to have your feet under you and go after him. I didn't do, so I have to execute the offense."

Adewale Ogunleye on the game:

"It's a steppingstone. We don't get too high or too low. We stay away from the papers because if you do that you won't want to play the next week."

Tommie Harris on whether he received different treatment:

"No. You have to ask [Bears head athletic trainer] Tim Bream that. I don't know about a different treatment program. I don't know about a different treatment program, I'm telling you that much. So you'll have to ask them about that. Don't try to start some junk, because you don't know what you're talking about. 'Cause you started all that last week. Listen, I come in the locker room last week, and [you] ask me what's going on. I said, 'I don't play. I don't talk if I don't play.' Then the next day I read 'Mystery, Tommie Harris is going on.' 'Are you suspended?' That's negative stuff we don't need."

Danieal Manning on the defense's performance:

"Just running to the ball, that helped out a lot. Just trusting in the scheme, that puts you in good positions, so that's what we played. It was very, very rewarding. Everybody wants to win and contribute, and I felt like I contributed in this win."

Danieal Manning on his INT:

"I just read the quarterback. I think the guy ran like a skinny post, so I just read him and saw him running inside. The ball was thrown right there, so I just made a play on the ball. I was feeling great about it, but I'd be feeling better if I scored. Now I got to go talk to Peanut about him scoring. I feel like I was just in the right place at the right time. Believing in the scheme is one thing, and then just using your natural ability and trusting your instincts finishes the play.

"A lot of my family called me this week and told me to relax and have fun. Tommie [Harris] actually came in today and gave me a little Hulk statue. He's my favorite superhero. He said remember this is a kid's game and go out there and play like it."

Craig Steltz on his injury:

"It happened on a special teams play. It was on a kickoff. I'm not really sure. We'll see (Monday)."

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Hester??

His great performance Sunday seems to be going unnoticed.

by No It All on Nov 1, 2009 7:43 PM CST reply actions  

Good call

Count that as #6. Hester has looked pretty well recently.

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by ChiFan13 on Nov 1, 2009 8:01 PM CST up reply actions  

Last two weeks

he’s been on his game, and has shown to be a good go-to receiver.

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by propheteer on Nov 1, 2009 9:33 PM CST up reply actions  

Couldn't agree more

I was a “doubter” during the off-season, but Hester has been a very pleasant surprise as a WR and should be commended on his performance.

Although, he should have to wash Toub’s car everyday this week for getting tackled in the open field by the punter!!!!

by BearFan611 on Nov 1, 2009 9:43 PM CST up reply actions  

And Davis should wash Hester's car

For the holding penalty that nullified that return!!!!

by Sam Householder on Nov 2, 2009 12:30 AM CST up reply actions  

I thought the Davis call

was pretty bogus, am I wrong?

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by David Taylor on Nov 2, 2009 2:23 PM CST up reply actions  

Nope

That was an awful call.

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by ChiFan13 on Nov 2, 2009 2:28 PM CST up reply actions  

I'm telling you

you should be able to challenge penalties too

by DaHamsta on Nov 2, 2009 3:28 PM CST up reply actions  

If that ever happens

we’ll be out of timeouts by the middle of the 1st quarter.

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by JerBear50 on Nov 3, 2009 4:10 AM CST up reply actions  

If we keep playing like this we're toast...

for the rest of the season. Particularly for the next few games where we have to face real teams. We’re flat. I watched the whole game today and felt flat. There really wasn’t a single point in the game that got me excited about this game. For a guy that doesn’t really know how to judge the O-Line…I can see that it’s horrid. Horrid.

Here’s the thing: Chicago is a “Defensive Team!!”. If you’re going to buy a QB like Cutler (and want to keep him around for a few years), you better buy him an O-Line to protect him.

Jake is right, we did have a band powerful enough to turn goat piss into gasoline.

by Chauncey Baker on Nov 1, 2009 7:54 PM CST reply actions  

Same Song!

Yet again, Missed opportunities in the red zone. Yet again, 1st and goal from inside the 5 no TD. Sure, a field goal is points but a 50% TD rate from the red zone shouldn’t be too much to ask. This has got to be the worst “Blow Out” in NFL history. (For the winning team)

by Big Ike on Nov 2, 2009 10:44 AM CST up reply actions  

God bless the Slingbox.

I actually got to watch this game while I was working on the road.

"You win because of the quarterback. We have to get that position stabilized. We're fixated on that." -- Jerry Angelo (12.30.2008)

Jerry Angelo trades for Jay Cutler! (4.2.2009)
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by SackMan on Nov 1, 2009 8:14 PM CST reply actions  

+1

The real question: Was it worth it? :)

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by ChiFan13 on Nov 1, 2009 8:24 PM CST up reply actions  

Our O-Line is getting Jay closer and closer to retirement.

Imagine if Jay had Shaun Rogers twice a year, along with Ngata or some other big ol NT in a 3-4. Jay got the living tar knocked out him when he got that helmet to chin hit.

You are right about Forte, where is the pop he had when he got the ball like last year.

You are right about Hunter, he just more use to the position, being Brian’s back-up all the those years.

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by gaclaudy on Nov 1, 2009 8:16 PM CST reply actions  

Our Oline

is really horrible and you’re right about him getting closer to retirement. If i were him, which i am so not, i would sit myself if this kinda crap continues through the season until they got a line.

by GtM on Nov 1, 2009 8:25 PM CST up reply actions  

Way too much is made about these sacks 'killing the QB.'

In the last two seasons Bear QB’s have been sacked 72 times.
In 1984 & 1985 Bear QB’s were sacked 79 times.

Jim McMahon was sacked so hard midseason in 1984 that he lacerated his kidney and missed the remainder of the season. Stuff like that didn’t stop him from running around and playing the game with reckless abandon.

These guys (like Cutler) are big boys. Getting sacked is part of the game.

by GeoMak on Nov 1, 2009 8:33 PM CST up reply actions  

Take too many 290-350 lbs "big boys" hitting on you and let's see what is left of your facilities.

I won’t mind keeping Jay around past age 32. Nothing wrong with him having a 16 year career here.

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by gaclaudy on Nov 1, 2009 8:37 PM CST up reply actions  

I'm not an NFL QB

get it?

(You amuse me).

if you don’t want you’re QB to get sacked then model your offense after guys like Dan marino or Peyton manning or else draft and/or acquire nothing but Pro Bowl O-Linemen.

by GeoMak on Nov 1, 2009 8:44 PM CST up reply actions  

So your solution is to let him keep taking the hits?

What replacable?

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by gaclaudy on Nov 1, 2009 8:51 PM CST up reply actions  

My 'solution' is this

Archie Manning was once sacked 11 times by Buddy and the Bears when he played for the Vikings.

Buddy’s Eagles once sacked Joe Montana 8 times. Troy Aikman 8 or 9 times.

Those guys all survived. It’s part of the game.
Also, those guys played when every rule in the book wasn’t designed to protect the QB (as it is now).

Stop babying these guys. Cutler’s probably out on Rush Street right now. He’s fine.

by GeoMak on Nov 1, 2009 9:10 PM CST up reply actions  

nobody parties on Rush Street anymore

and this isn’t the 70s or 80s. Shaun Rogers is larger than Seth Joyner. Troy Aikman retired because he couldn’t think straight anymore.

I agree it’s part of the game, but Cutler will not survive getting body slammed by 390-pound dudes week in and week out. it would be nice if this OL could limit the amount of times he gets knocked on his ass starting with next week against AZ … if we can’t stop the Browns front, we’ll never stop AZ’s.

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by junkhorse on Nov 2, 2009 10:44 AM CST up reply actions  

it kept mcmahon

from having a long term career, but yeah short term it worked out

by GtM on Nov 1, 2009 8:56 PM CST up reply actions  

McMahon's history is exactly the reason, in my mind, that the Bears need to improve in this area.

It’s because he was injured so often during his time with the Bears, that it’s the main reason they never repeated as Super Bowl champs. Taking the hits is part of the game but all of us have said that Cutler is the building block for this team if they ever expect to get to the promised land again. If we keep allowing him to get beat up as he has the last few weeks, we may never get the opportunity to let him “lead” us.

by BearFan611 on Nov 1, 2009 9:02 PM CST up reply actions  

I'm not suggesting, BF611, that the Bears don't improve the line.

I just think people overreact here. If people want to say the line was the reason that they couldn’t run the ball or pass the ball, that’s one thing.

The QB’s ‘health’ is a different stroy. Aaron Rodgers was sacked 20 times in the first four games this season. 20 times! He looks fine to me.

Jim McMahon took some brutal hits (that 1984 game against the Raiders when he lacerated his kidney was broadcast by Merlin Olsen, who was a HOF DT and a member of the ‘Fearsome Foursome.’ After that game, he said the physical play on the field was “Frightening”).

McMahon also played recklessly. As Ditka has said: "I would’ve told him to slide, but he wouldn’t have listened to one word from me.’

As Ron Meyer once said: “Is that smart (playing as recklesly as McMahon did)?” Not really. Does it win? You bet it does."

And finally, especially after their SB season McMahon was not in very good shape. Being in great shape never was a priority of his . . . even less so after they won it all.

by GeoMak on Nov 1, 2009 9:17 PM CST up reply actions  

I think the issue is not that Cutler shouldn't play the game without worry

he obviously does, which I agree is one of the things I like about him, but the cumulative tolls the hits that are unnecessary take will shorten his career. The hits from rushmen coming in unblocked or late because our line and backs can’t adequately block could but us in the hands of Caleb Hanie sooner than we’d like.

This brings up another point. Forte’s blocking has fallen off this year. There was one sack that the announcers blamed on Pace, but when they showed the replay, Pace had his man blocked and Forte didn’t recognize the blitz from the linebacker at all. He, instead, blocked the DE who Pace was handling as the LB ran right by him, unabated to Cutler. I think the o-line is the root of most of our offensive problems, but Forte has to get his head out of his ass as well and Jay has to control the happy feet he’s developing if we’re going to be competitve against better teams.

by BearFan611 on Nov 1, 2009 9:40 PM CST up reply actions  

John Elway played 16 seasons and was sacked 516 times

which averages out to 32 sacks per season.

Jay Cutler is on pace for 34 sacks with the Bears in 2009.

by GeoMak on Nov 1, 2009 10:02 PM CST up reply actions  

...

Can I just add, that Cutler is getting slammed to turf on a lot of plays that aren’t “sacks”.

by Jacob Hayes on Nov 2, 2009 9:14 AM CST up reply actions  

What kind of argument is this?

The idea that because good quarterbacks in the past have been sacked a lot and went on to have good careers…I don’t even understand what you are trying to prove. Getting sacked a lot is obviously bad. The more a quarterback is hit, the more likely he is to be injured. Obviously, we do not want Jay Cutler to be injured, especially given how much we gave up to get him. Thus, him getting sacked less leads to less likelihood of injuries, leads to us being happier. And, as the comment after me stated, sacks do not equal quarterback hits, and Jay is getting hit a lot right now.

by chiefgint09 on Nov 2, 2009 9:27 PM CST up reply actions  

It's not an arguement

I get what he’s trying to say but really it makes no sense. yes a sack is a part of the game and yes Cutler is a man and should be able to take a hit or two. But if the option is to have him get hit or not I’m going to go with not. Like I said in a game thread he is getting hit like a pinata.

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by Ditkavsworld on Nov 2, 2009 10:26 PM CST up reply actions  

I really hope that the main priority in the draft is the O-Line

Cutler is good, but he needs people that can keep him upright. Orton is getting great protection besides the game against the Ravens earlier today and he is playing well, and Aaron Rodgers would be one of the best Quarterbacks in the NFL if he wasn’t being sacked so much.

At least Cutler is a big guy that looks like he can take some abuse.

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by JoeCB1991 on Nov 1, 2009 11:08 PM CST up reply actions  

Another one I'd like to add is

we need to stop using that tight formation inside the 5 yard line. We have not run that successfully since Walter was still with us and with our current roster, we’re not even close. When you have a QB with the mobility and arm that Cutler has, a formation where he has more options and the defense has to play us more “honest”, so that all eleven aren’t in the box, would be a much better option.

by BearFan611 on Nov 1, 2009 8:28 PM CST reply actions  

What's wrong with a 3 WR set and Play action boot-leg?

I know Ron can get the play design from Madden 2010.

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by gaclaudy on Nov 1, 2009 8:29 PM CST up reply actions  

That's basically what Aaron Rodgers and the Packers like to run in those situations

And they, too, have a pretty bad O-line.

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by JimmyMack on Nov 1, 2009 10:12 PM CST up reply actions  

Oh about Jay's Moxie

You mentioned him going after the Browns D-coordinator, what got me, was after one of the 100 hits Jay took, and he peeled himself off the ground, he got back in the huddle, and Turner was late getting the play in, and Jay started giving the universal sign for “Hurry the Hell up”.

I think Jay is going to have a long talk with Ronny come Tuesday about the O-Line and getting the calls in, that is after he spends Monday in the Hot-tub!

That’s not true!!! WHY THE F*CK WOULD YOU SAY THAT YOU AHOLE!! Ok maybe your right but you gotta give a little something here for it to work. I don’t know what I’m going to do this is the worst thing I’ve ever read, this day could not get any worse. Fine, F*ck it, you’re right.

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by gaclaudy on Nov 1, 2009 8:28 PM CST reply actions  

I think Lovie and Jay will tag-team that meeting

Ron Turner did not have a good day today.

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by ChiFan13 on Nov 1, 2009 8:30 PM CST up reply actions  

After all those hits..

I’d be diving in the hot tub too, preferably with a quick shot of whiskey or two and some soap to get that 350 pound D lineman odor off of me.

by Pretender85 on Nov 1, 2009 8:31 PM CST up reply actions  

He's too busy throwing 5 yard passes.

That’s not true!!! WHY THE F*CK WOULD YOU SAY THAT YOU AHOLE!! Ok maybe your right but you gotta give a little something here for it to work. I don’t know what I’m going to do this is the worst thing I’ve ever read, this day could not get any worse. Fine, F*ck it, you’re right.

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by gaclaudy on Nov 1, 2009 8:34 PM CST up reply actions  

and barely getting picked off

"Repetition is only good when you've been winning." - Valet

by propheteer on Nov 1, 2009 9:30 PM CST up reply actions  

almost getting picked off

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by propheteer on Nov 1, 2009 9:31 PM CST up reply actions  

observations

Forte may be playing hurt – it’s not just a bad O line.
Ron Turner must go.
The common denominator is the coaching.
Sure the players have to execute but the coaches have to find ways to motivate the players to excel!

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by Maelvampyre on Nov 1, 2009 8:30 PM CST reply actions  

I stand by what I've written on the threads

I think RT and Babich need go. Lovie needs better support staff. Get him coordinators that will push the limits. We need coachs that can run a spread offense and a 3-4.

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by gaclaudy on Nov 1, 2009 8:34 PM CST reply actions  

TURN IT GREEN.

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by gaclaudy on Nov 1, 2009 8:38 PM CST up reply actions  

Excellent

Sweetness forever!

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by propheteer on Nov 1, 2009 9:32 PM CST up reply actions  

You can catch the video from half

on bears.com. Click on “Remembering Walter” (I think thats the link anyway). Bears did a good job.

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by Allie on Nov 1, 2009 11:03 PM CST up reply actions  

I'm gonna create new usernames

so I can rec it more times. From now on I shall be BearJer50 and BareJer50.

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by JerBear50 on Nov 3, 2009 4:19 AM CST up reply actions  

Just one thing I ask of you
Just one thing for me
Please forget you knew my username

by rdent4hof on Nov 3, 2009 8:31 AM CST up reply actions  

lol nice!!

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by JerBear50 on Nov 4, 2009 3:50 AM CST up reply actions  

Just another game

where our defensive tackles were nothing more than turnstiles. And this against the lowly Browns no less!!! We need to sit Tommie & try some other combos, including getting Gilbert into the rotation to start his development and see what he can do in actual game experience.

And the offensive line is almost a total write-off at this point!! Pace, Kreutz, Omiyale and Harry Heistand have to go, Garza, Beekman & Williams may be salvageable with some competent coaching.

Jerry better have his checkbook ready when free agency opens up again

by prbart140 on Nov 1, 2009 9:37 PM CST reply actions  

Agreed except...

Omiyale doesn’t have to go. We had him at G when he’s really a T. Keep him around to take RT once Pace leaves and Williams goes to LT.

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by ChiFan13 on Nov 1, 2009 9:47 PM CST up reply actions  

i know that gaurd and tackle are worlds apart

but i don’t think i want to see Omiyale in a bears uniform ever. i mean you just cant get blown up so consistently. i know g and t are different but you would think dude could push someone at g every once in a while.

by GtM on Nov 1, 2009 10:11 PM CST up reply actions  

Your way overreacting.

Tackle IS world’s apart from guard. The guy started 6 games at an unfamiliar position for a new team and you don’t want him to be a Bear anymore? Chill out.

by PolishSausage.Ditka.Bears. on Nov 2, 2009 7:34 AM CST up reply actions  

just an idea...

but anyone opposed to benching pace and seeing how omiyale works at RT or LT (depending if we want to move williams)?

by Nih1lus on Nov 2, 2009 9:08 AM CST up reply actions  

I don't know

I guess I can’t give you an answer, mostly because I don’t know how Chris Williams is progressing. If Williams is ready for LT, then sure, try it out. Otherwise, let’s just wait til Orlando’s gone.

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by ChiFan13 on Nov 2, 2009 9:19 AM CST up reply actions  

Thought about it.

A. If it works it is a miracle
B. If it doesn’t, we look really really dumb for doing it

by brands735 on Nov 2, 2009 9:32 AM CST up reply actions  

I am not opposed but

I don’t think Pace should be benched. Pace’s old bones cannot take a full game and we know that. Jarred Allen is going to have a field day on him if we don’t figure something out. Maybe Pace should be spelled with Omiyale every once in awhile so he can get a breather. Although, we might get a few delay of game penalties waiting for him to get off the field.

by PolishSausage.Ditka.Bears. on Nov 2, 2009 1:07 PM CST up reply actions  

Let's not forget...

Pace shutdown John Abraham… A tough task for any NFL left tackle.

I actually think he’s been OK.

 

by rdent4hof on Nov 2, 2009 4:21 PM CST up reply actions  

overreacting?

Beekman isn’t a guard either but he doesnt completely miss 3/4 of the guys he’s supposed to block. im saying that i realize thats its a diffferent position, but he’s still blocking (Its not like the guy was switched to wide reciever) so i expect him to be able to do it more often than not. Which he isnt able to do. So what we move him back to his natural tackle spot and he just kinda blows?

by GtM on Nov 2, 2009 3:52 PM CST up reply actions  

yeah, the DT play is terrible

i’d seriously reconsider putting tommie harris out there as much…the guy is a non-factor on most plays. i’d rather see harrison, idonije (who should also get some of wale’s snaps at DE…when he doesn’t play complete scrubs, wale disappears), and gilbert get some snaps. harris does NOTHING anymore…single-teamed and yet getting beat on plays. this is a major reason (along with not allowing our DBs to jam receivers) why our defense has sucked since 2006.

by guy incognito on Nov 2, 2009 12:15 AM CST up reply actions  

Idonije

He could work at guard

by DaHamsta on Nov 2, 2009 3:37 PM CST up reply actions  

Yeah he could...

It’s been tested (below) and it works. Look at how much time Jay has…

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by David Taylor on Nov 2, 2009 3:47 PM CST up reply actions  

I think

That looks like a pick…that safety is gonna break on the ball

by BigAppleBearsFan on Nov 2, 2009 3:53 PM CST up reply actions  

Nice work.

DaHamsta has been trying to work Idonije everywhere… if I remember correctly, he wanted him in at RB/ FB as well.

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by Dane Noble on Nov 2, 2009 3:56 PM CST up reply actions  

So we could have

Idonije at fullback clearing the path for Garrett Wolfe, our new starting RB. Awesome. let’s get it done.

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by David Taylor on Nov 2, 2009 3:59 PM CST up reply actions  

lol I was just about to refer Smudgers picture to your signature,

but you went and changed it on me.

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by JerBear50 on Nov 3, 2009 4:24 AM CST up reply actions  

I knew you were...

that’s why i changed it. :)

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by Dane Noble on Nov 3, 2009 8:13 AM CST up reply actions  

Always one step ahead...

that’s why you’re bossman #2.

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by JerBear50 on Nov 4, 2009 3:48 AM CST up reply actions  

I like how your playing the Broncos.

Is there anything madden can’t prove???

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by Ditkavsworld on Nov 2, 2009 7:41 PM CST up reply actions  

I'm telling you

i have wolfe in for lg, over omiyale

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by BearNecessities on Nov 2, 2009 10:45 PM CST up reply actions  

One thing that gets me thinking...

When we are up by a lot in the 4th quarter, adn especially against clevelad, why do we keep Cutler in? He gets pounded a lot because our line holds the DL just enough that He can get the ball off and then get hit. Him getting worn down every play might affect him later in the season.

I don't know, I'm not in shape yet.

by The_Fan on Nov 1, 2009 9:54 PM CST reply actions  

Good Point..

And I want to see what Caleb Hanie is made of.

by Savior52 on Nov 1, 2009 10:13 PM CST up reply actions  

i say we put Hanie in during the Vikings game

Jay is going to get killed in those games if we dont fix this line

by Daseabeez on Nov 2, 2009 12:46 AM CST up reply actions  

Having just gotten back (to Iowa) from the game here's my two cents worth.

Turner has no creativity in play calling. Sitting with my nephew in the stands I’d say “this is a pass play” and it would be pass, if I saw it as a run, we’d run. I’M a freaking NOVICE when it comes to football and if I can accurately predict what we’re trying to do, what do think a decent d coordinator can do???? Our O-Line blows goats. They are seriously pathetic and I don’t see any way to fix that. Cutler will continue to make mistakes if (when) he continues to get hurried/harassed. He now has more picks than TD’s. Not good. The D looked adequate against a terrible O and special teams were just fine. For a 30-6 beat down it felt very lackluster.

If you can't laugh at yourself you must not be very funny.

by Just Dave on Nov 1, 2009 10:17 PM CST reply actions  

zone blocking for the o-line?

i dunno…something needs to change. zone-blocking has worked wonders for denver. but we need to do something different. our o-line gets beat at the line every freaking time. that some of us our yearning for our line play from last year tells you how bad it is.

by guy incognito on Nov 2, 2009 12:17 AM CST reply actions  

This kills me!!
…and if we’re doing too much, we’ll cut back. Obviously, we are because we’re making too many mistakes…We’ve got to take a good look at what we’re doing and make sure we’re not doing too much because we’re making too many mistakes that we shouldn’t be making."

Cut back?! Cut back to what? I watched Postgame Live on CSN and Azumah was talking about how there was no creative play calling! If people who actually know what they’re talking about notice it, as well as someone like me, then we know there is a problem. How can we cut back? What would we cut back too? The offense isn’t doing any thing complex to begin with!!

by Sam Householder on Nov 2, 2009 12:34 AM CST reply actions  

+1

My thoughts exactly!

by rdent4hof on Nov 2, 2009 7:20 AM CST up reply actions  

Hulk says wreck for Detrimental Turd

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by Ditkavsworld on Nov 2, 2009 9:44 AM CST up reply actions  

If only Harris could do to O-lines

what Ang Lee did to the Hulk…

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by JerBear50 on Nov 3, 2009 4:40 AM CST up reply actions  

Well said!

Is the one with Ed Norton and Tim Roth any good?

by rdent4hof on Nov 3, 2009 8:33 AM CST up reply actions  

It's decent. I won't say great but decent.

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by Ditkavsworld on Nov 3, 2009 7:38 PM CST up reply actions  

Yeah, watchable

but not great by any stretch. I like Tim Roth, but his character was pretty bad. Definitely no “Ted the Bellhop.”

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by JerBear50 on Nov 4, 2009 3:47 AM CST up reply actions  

Thanks guys

I’d been wanting to check it out… ALWAYS important to not have too high of expectations…

“Ted the Bellhop”, brilliant performance!

by rdent4hof on Nov 4, 2009 7:59 AM CST up reply actions  

"Don't MISBEHAVE!!!"

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by JerBear50 on Nov 4, 2009 6:12 PM CST up reply actions  

That Manning interception

was a pretty amazing play. And then he stripped the ball from Lewis on another play. I thought he had an outstanding game yesterday.

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by David Taylor on Nov 2, 2009 2:25 PM CST up reply actions  

Forte's starting point...

Where forte lines up for runs behind cutler seems to be a lot closer than benson. I noticed this last week and don’t know if it’s just preference or what, but benson seemed to get a better head of steam going, running more downhill and getting those 2 or 3 extra yards at the end of a run.

by bearsbullscubs21 on Nov 2, 2009 10:22 AM CST reply actions  

You are right...

And I would say that there are 2 reasons for Forte lining up a yard closer:

1- The line is expected to collapse quickly this year.

2- Benson was more of a hard-nose type runner.

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by Dane Noble on Nov 2, 2009 10:37 AM CST up reply actions  

Our Oline...

Is horrible, at best.
We play good teams like Minnesota and Philly and we will get waxed by 20+.
Also, good teams plow the ball into the endzone against bad teams. We couldn’t and don’t, so that on a regular basis.
I will be at the game this Sunday in Chicago. If we play like we did yesterday, we will not win. And I will not be a happy camper.
BEAR DOWN!

by Bearsguy34 on Nov 2, 2009 3:56 PM CST reply actions  

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