Cornerbacks: To press or not to press
A hot topic of discussion the last few years is how far the Bears usually have their corners off the line of scrimmage. Is it a coaching point, or do the players just play off on their own? When they do play some bump and run coverage is it in the defensive game plan to do so or are the DB's making the call to do it? Make no mistake about it, where ever the corners line up it's a coach's call.
It's schemed where they line up. If a CB is playing off on his own, going against the game plan, and he's getting burned with quick slants or hitches that player will be benched, and conversely if a CB is playing up tight against the coaches wishes and he isn't effective he'll find some pine time as well.
In last Sunday's game it was pointed out that Arizona WR Larry Fitzgerald likes when corners play him close, and why not, at 6'3" & 217 pounds he's bigger and stronger than most every corner he plays against. While Charles Tillman played tight on a handful of snaps, the Bears played off the majority of the time. When is the opportune time to press? When is it best to play off? Unless you're an elite CB, blessed with incredible make up speed, you play according to scheme. And the Bears scheme usually dictates play loose.
In the Cover 2 type defense we've seen in Chicago during the Lovie Smith era, the corners are responsible for the sideline in about 12/13 yards, keeping balls thrown to the flats in front of them. The Bears favor physical corners (Tillman, Zackary Bowman, and Corey Graham) who should be able to press. In theory, the CB's could easily play press coverage while looking for a back coming to the flat or a slot WR or TE running an out or arrow route into their zone. By pressing the split end they'll throw off the timing of a quick slant or skinny post in between horizontal zones (CB/LB) or a fade or go route behind him (between the CB/S).
I've always felt that playing real soft coverage on the WR's in zone gives too much of an advantage to the offense. If the CB's play off the slant can be thrown immediately, before the wide out can get close to the 2nd defender in. Pressing up will make the WR have to work to get into his route and give the defense a chance to be effective. With all the 3 step drops the Bears see, doing anything to disrupt the timing patterns should be priority #1.
In some variations of the zone defense, the corners are actually responsible for sticking man to man if they go deep, so pressing them could be a problem. If you try to bump and run, but don't get a good jam, you risk getting blown by. The same can obviously be said when in man to man, so if the corner doesn't have the speed to stick with a WR, pressing isn't a good idea. None of the Bears corners have what you would call track speed. No 4.3 40's in that group. So why take a chance on playing tight. This is the biggest reason why they elect to rarely press.
Generally speaking, defenses that get to the QB with a regularity can press more, with the thinking that routes that take time to develop won't work if the QB is running for his life. And by pressing you take away the quick timing routes QB's look for when they sense a blitz.
Other times you'll see some teams funneling wide outs to their help with press coverage. For example, if a defense is in a rolled over 3 deep look, (The 3 deep consisting of both safeties rolling over to one corners side with the other corner responsible for the other third of the field) the corner that is pressing may try and induce the WR to an outside release knowing he has over the top help from a safety. If the team is a primarily a Cover 2 team, this is a great wrinkle to add to the defense. You may get a QB reading Cover 2 off the snap that attempts to hit his WR down the sideline (the usual hole in the Cover 2 between the CB/S), but with the safety over further than in the Cover 2 (because he only has deep third responsibility) he could be there for the pick.
Bottom line is the Bears don't press because they don't have the type of defense that allows you to press, both scheme wise and with their personnel. The Bears just don't bring the kind of heat on opposing QB's that would benefit from bump and run coverage. If the Bears did play tight, with the QB having plenty of time to scan the field, NFL WR's would eventually beat the press. Remember no track star DB's in this group. They could mix things up and press while in zone from time to time, but again if the QB is allowed to sit in the pocket, it'll be easy pickens.
If you think of the CB's and/or teams that are successful with the bump and run type coverage, you'll either think of the corners with great make up speed, that could make plays on the ball seemingly where ever they are on the field, or the teams that eat quarterbacks for lunch. Two things we don't see in Chicago.
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3rd and 5...
Why are our CBs 12 yards off the WRs?! Of course the offense is gonna convert…
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by Dane Noble on Nov 10, 2009 9:06 AM CST reply actions 0 recs
Yep
that was truly mind numbing to see pre-snap. If they’re going to play off, then why aren’t the LBs ready to pounce on those quick routes?
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by propheteer on Nov 10, 2009 10:03 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Isn't it amazing
that the great Lovie Smith, who swears by the effectiveness of the Tampa-2, cannot even realize that jamming the receivers can eliminate our ineffectiveness on 3rd down? How stupid do you have to be when you can’t realize on 3rd down your corners are playing beyond the first down mark? Not to mention, when you jam your receivers you allow your front 4 more time to get adequate pressure. It’s absolutely sickening. I daydream of being able to express this to Lovie, the terrible thing is while I’m expressing this to him I also happen to be stabbing him repeatedly. My doctor says it’s “normal.”
by PolishSausage.Ditka.Bears. on Nov 10, 2009 9:13 AM CST reply actions 0 recs
Isn't it amazing that...
the primary job of the CBs in a Cover 2, is to jam and re-direct the WR off his route and funnel him toward the zone coverage?
And we don’t jam anyone?
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by SackMan on Nov 10, 2009 9:50 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
EXACTLY!
I never understood why play off when in Cover 2, it makes no sense to me
by Lester A. Wiltfong Jr. on Nov 10, 2009 11:18 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
How about
Just double-teaming if the other side has a super-elite receiver. Ever since watchig Steve Smith torch us against single coverage in the playoffs, I keep thinking “why not give it a try.” But the coaches for some reason think you can single-cover the games best receivers and get away with it.
by Shuffle85 on Nov 10, 2009 9:24 AM CST reply actions 0 recs
But the coaches for some reason think you can single-cover the games best receivers and get away with it.
We did get away with it – Larry Fitzgerald didn’t catch all 5 of Kurt Warner’s TD passes!
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by Spongie on Nov 11, 2009 12:36 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
i have no idea
but when plan A is an abysmal failure, maybe try plan B.
by Hatchetm on Nov 10, 2009 9:29 AM CST reply actions 0 recs
That's the thing,
Once Lovie has his “mind” made up, He’s gonna live and die by plan A whether it’s working or not. Looking at Lovie on the sideline reminds me of that Flintstones episode when the alien Fred just walked around saying, yabba dabba doo, yabba dabba doo, yabba dabba doo, Yabba dabba do.
by Big Ike on Nov 10, 2009 10:02 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
That's asking way too much
It takes at least half a season for Lovie to make adjustments.
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by propheteer on Nov 10, 2009 10:11 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
You know...
At least it’s nice to see him making SOME sort of “halftime adjustment.”
by SJS_illini on Nov 10, 2009 11:21 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
It's the half season point
so maybe we will jam starting at the niners game
by DaHamsta on Nov 10, 2009 3:21 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Press coverage will only work if you can generate a pass rush...
Pressing recievers only work if you can force the QB to make a quick decision. If he can sit in the pocket for 4-5 seconds, then CB’s will lose and the eventually the WR will make a move to get open.
Bump and Run Coverage only works if you have LB’s and Safeties that can cover also, as once you bump the reciever off the line, you are either staying with him for underneath route or turning him over for mid to deep coverage. But once again it comes back to forcing the QB to make a quick decision.
A tight zone works better, IMHO. It puts the CB within 2 yards of the WR, where they can play bump and run or play tight coverage, while still giving a cushion to allow the CB a little wiggle room in case they get double moved.
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by gaclaudy on Nov 10, 2009 9:33 AM CST reply actions 1 recs
I think the issue is that you don't go all one way or the other
they need to mix the coverages up so they’re not as predictable. Definitely, as was mentioned earlier, they should not be giving a 10-12 yard cushion when it’s 3rd & 5.
by BearFan611 on Nov 10, 2009 1:13 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Exactly
Why blitz on 3rd & 5 if you’re not pressing at the line with CBs? At least then, Briggs and company can cover those quick-slants, bubble screens, etc.
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by propheteer on Nov 10, 2009 3:54 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
There were times on Sunday
Where, we were finally lined up in a press man coverage.
The problem: we didn;t press anyone! No jams at the line, nada. Just ran with the WR. Useless.
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by SackMan on Nov 10, 2009 9:49 AM CST reply actions 0 recs
I understand
not pressing Fitz, but to let Breaston run all over the place is just plain arrogant. The first drive on third down, he was released by the CB and allowed to do a post-in with three defenders around him covering nothing. Doesn’t this scheme allow some improvisation once in awhile? Oh, the only WR in the general vicinity is in front of me wide open….How about trying to take a risk and try to force him to break off his route or disrupt the QBs timing? No, that would make way too much sense!
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by propheteer on Nov 10, 2009 10:10 AM CST reply actions 0 recs
Hey Wilt
Isn’t Bowman pretty close to 4.3 forty speed?
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by propheteer on Nov 10, 2009 10:12 AM CST reply actions 0 recs
I think before his knee problems he was faster
He was clocked at a 4.38 40 before he came out, but I’m not sure what he’s at now… I hope he can develop into that “guy”
by Lester A. Wiltfong Jr. on Nov 10, 2009 11:23 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Hopefully
they let him play with “instinct” rather than keeping him restricted like it seems they have. I bet Lovie told him no matter what you do don’t let anyone behind you.
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by propheteer on Nov 10, 2009 11:28 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Before he was hurt in college he was the #1 CB prospect in the nation
by Lester A. Wiltfong Jr. on Nov 10, 2009 11:30 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I know, he's definitely got talent.
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by propheteer on Nov 10, 2009 11:50 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
He may be back close to his pre-injury speed
I know there was talk about Bowman and Hester having some great matchups in training camp.
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by JimmyMack on Nov 10, 2009 1:56 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Nice post and write up Wilt!
Roach love the run stuffin', but don't forget about the TE over the middle!!
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by tfrabotta on Nov 10, 2009 10:41 AM CST reply actions 0 recs
Powerful assesment.
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by Ditkavsworld on Nov 10, 2009 2:22 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I cant even read up on all of this
but on the question at hand: Press
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by BearNecessities on Nov 10, 2009 11:28 AM CST reply actions 0 recs
Nice assessment, Wilt
I don’t see the press issue as an all-or-nothing proposition, obviously.
I think there are times we should, and other times to play soft—depending on down, distance, scheme, formation, personnel, opponent, viability of our pass rush, size/skills of WR, and so on.
As for our problems on defense in general—(warning! off-topic comments follw!)
I personally think it ALL goes back to our lack of a run game (which goes to the line, and the coaching/play-calling).
If we had a solid, dependable, clock-chewing, run game we could turn to, blow-outs like the last two simply wouldn’t be happening.
Bengals & Cards scored so many freaking times on us because we kept letting them back on the field. Again and again.
Had we a run game, we slow the momentum/rhythym, chew up time, limit opposing offense’s chances, etc.
This is how poor-to-mediocre teams keep games close against superior opponents—you see Miami do it all the time. Teams do it againts the Pats, Colts, and Saints.
When we get torched, say, the FIRST TWO times, it’’s time to slow the whole game down, and take control of it—with the run game.
Which we don’t have.
That might only be a band-aid-over-the-bullet-hole type fix, a temporary thing, but at least it would keep us from getting blown out and give us a better chance to win.
Except we can’t do it.
Strangely, some of that inability could be fall-out from Cutler’s presence, too. I hate to ask it—but does his ego play some part in preventing us from being able to run the ball?
Or is it just that we’ve been behind so much now? Chicken and the egg, situation, I guess.
by Amishbear on Nov 10, 2009 12:55 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Nice rant!
The O-LIne needs to improve to fix the defense! I follow you!!!
by Lester A. Wiltfong Jr. on Nov 10, 2009 1:27 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Tell Lovie to fire up that bus again!
It’s definitely time to play some smashmouth pigskin again.
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by propheteer on Nov 10, 2009 3:56 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Although, with this offensive line…..
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by Spongie on Nov 11, 2009 12:38 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I was mostly joking...
but they definitely need to keep trying, or at the very least pass the ball to Forte to relieve some pressure on the WR/TEs.
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by propheteer on Nov 11, 2009 1:54 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Maybe we need for this thing to explode in our face
so that we can do away with the cover 2 (hence bye bye Lovie) and get back to a more aggressive defensive scheme (one that knows how to blitz?). Scheme first, new players second..
Roach love the run stuffin', but don't forget about the TE over the middle!!
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by tfrabotta on Nov 10, 2009 12:58 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
There's an interesting article on why Lovie Smith won't get fired.
You can read it Here. This situation got really messed up by all of our success in 2006. Premature contract extensions all around and now we’re forced to sleep in the bed we’ve made.
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by Just Dave on Nov 10, 2009 1:37 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Ha! Great minds think alike...
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by Dane Noble on Nov 10, 2009 1:43 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
It seems like we've been down this road before...
After the Super Bowl season a lot of guys cashed in for big pay-days: Lovie, Tommy Harris, Nate Vasher, etc.
Too bad none of those guys (especially Lovie) has really panned out.
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by JimmyMack on Nov 10, 2009 1:49 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I know though him some big cash
so that is going to be tough.
Roach love the run stuffin', but don't forget about the TE over the middle!!
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by tfrabotta on Nov 10, 2009 2:01 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
"they owe"
Roach love the run stuffin', but don't forget about the TE over the middle!!
- "Original WCG Power Poster!"
by tfrabotta on Nov 10, 2009 2:01 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
we someehow need to get a hod of Smith
but L.Smith isn’t east to find in the phonebook
by DaHamsta on Nov 10, 2009 3:29 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Can someone plees make a
photoshop of a hamster wearing Bears clothes? He needs a new pic.
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by Dane Noble on Nov 10, 2009 3:54 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
please*
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by Dane Noble on Nov 10, 2009 3:54 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Hmmm...
I wonder what “Bears clothes” would be fitting for DaHamsta?
How about this…

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by smudgers on Nov 10, 2009 10:10 PM CST up reply actions 5 recs
*WTF
*Wartburg Track and Field….
If you can't laugh at yourself you must not be very funny.
by Just Dave on Nov 10, 2009 10:19 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
See DH's last entry
from THIS page for clarity.
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by smudgers on Nov 10, 2009 10:38 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I have no idea what’s going on in this pic, but it’s awesome.
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by Spongie on Nov 11, 2009 12:39 AM CST up reply actions 1 recs
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAAAAAA
Wow you just captured it all, they say a picture is worth a thousand words….. The hat, the wand the magic wand, his favorite FB. I’m in awe…..
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