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A lot of websites run an "approval rating" poll periodically to gauge the fan base's opinions on the football team.  I thought, instead of running a poll, why not have a feedback thread?  Tell us what you think so far of each key member of our coaching (and managing) staff, and what you think their future will be with the team.

- Jerry Angelo

- Lovie Smith

- Ron Turner

- Rod Marinelli

- Bob Babich

If you'd like to throw in other coaches as well, like Harry Heistand, Darryl Drake, or Pep Hamilton, feel free.

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Um, here goes

- Jerry Angelo – FAIL

- Lovie Smith – FAIL

- Ron Turner – EPIC CATASTROPHIC FAIL

- Rod Marinelli – FAIL

- Bob Babich – EPIC BUT NOT QUITE YET TURNER-ESQUE FAIL

WHOLE SEASON (so far) ….FAIL!

I'm not so mean. I wouldn't ever go out to hurt anybody deliberately - unless it was, you know, important, like a league game or something. - Dick Butkus

by iowaBear on Nov 16, 2009 1:52 PM CST reply actions  

Yep
- Bob Babich – EPIC BUT NOT QUITE YET TURNER-ESQUE FAIL

He’s been without two starters most of the year, and has had to shuffle guys around a lot.

How about a potential fail?

"Those guys were the suckiest bunch of sucks that ever sucked" - Homer defines the Bears '09 season in less than 12 words.

by propheteer on Nov 16, 2009 1:54 PM CST up reply actions  

I'd go with that - 'potential fail' or 'failing'

and one of the starters, it should be said, was Urlacher. His absence is obvious on each and every play

I'm not so mean. I wouldn't ever go out to hurt anybody deliberately - unless it was, you know, important, like a league game or something. - Dick Butkus

by iowaBear on Nov 16, 2009 1:59 PM CST up reply actions  

Theme song for Urlacher

“Don’t know whatchyoo’ve GOT, til it’s go-o-one…”

Cinderella

by Amishbear on Nov 16, 2009 4:16 PM CST up reply actions  

sorry,

yes, it IS Cinderella

I daresay there’s probably a cheesey 80’s hair metal song out there to express each of the many forms of anguish that typify being a Bears fan… :-)

by Amishbear on Nov 16, 2009 4:18 PM CST up reply actions  

With a very scratchy voice
Don’t know what you got till it’s gone
Don’t know what it is I did so wrong
Now I know what I got
It’s just this song
And it ain’t easy to get back
Takes so long

"Those guys were the suckiest bunch of sucks that ever sucked" - Homer defines the Bears '09 season in less than 12 words.

by propheteer on Nov 16, 2009 9:35 PM CST up reply actions  

I had the same idea, so for all that you named.

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by Ditkavsworld on Nov 16, 2009 2:46 PM CST up reply actions  

Reminds me

of the old question:

“If you set out to fail, and succeed, then which one have you done?”

by Amishbear on Nov 16, 2009 3:49 PM CST up reply actions  

Also reminds me..

of a sticker I ’ve seen before.

“It at first you don’t succeed, failure might be your thing.”

by boondock_saint812 on Nov 16, 2009 4:40 PM CST up reply actions  

DD

The WRs seem like they’ve done well enough to retain him, but if a new OC is hired he’ll most likely want “his own guys” brought in.

"Those guys were the suckiest bunch of sucks that ever sucked" - Homer defines the Bears '09 season in less than 12 words.

by propheteer on Nov 16, 2009 1:52 PM CST reply actions  

babich

Deserved to be shown the door last year, and this year is no exception.
Not saying the others don’t deserve the same fate, but Babs has overstayed his welcome for sure.

"Chance favors the prepared mind." - Pasteur

by Maelvampyre on Nov 16, 2009 1:58 PM CST reply actions  

Here's my list

Angelo: He does get high marks for the Cutler trade, but the problem now is the lack of depth in positions he’s been ignoring. Pace and Omayale weren’t bad signings, but they’re too old and too broken now to make a difference, so they look awful. Now we’re in a tight spot come next year. D+

Smith: Lovie always has the same look on his face, and people take that to mean a lack of passion. We don’t know what goes on behind closed doors, but there is no doubt Lovie Smith genuinely cares about the organization and at the very least, making sure he still has a job. He catches a lot of flack for some preparation problems, deseverdly, but Jerry hasn’t exactly given him what he needs to win. D

Turner: Ron’s play calling is typically predictable and usually awful. He hasn’t been getting the line play he needs, but even if he did, would he be that imaginative? I doubt it. F.

Marinelli: I liked this pickup in the off-season. I think he has made a difference with the D-line, but when you’ve got players like Weak-Sauce Harris that only show up to play twice a year, there’s a limit to what he can accomplish. C.

Babich: Done a respectable job with the losses he’s suffered, but much of his success is coming from the beast that is Lance Briggs. I give Bob a C, only because we can’t prove he made the LBs better, but we can’t prove he’s the problem either.

by Virto on Nov 16, 2009 2:01 PM CST reply actions  

This is under heavy scrutiny now
Angelo: He does get high marks for the Cutler trade, but the problem now is the lack of depth in positions he’s been ignoring.

He was hailed as a victor when he pulled the trigger, but now that is under question. I realize what JA was afraid of all this time. If I bring in a real QB, do I have the resources to help him thrive? An emphatic No!

"Those guys were the suckiest bunch of sucks that ever sucked" - Homer defines the Bears '09 season in less than 12 words.

by propheteer on Nov 16, 2009 2:05 PM CST up reply actions  

I think that's true

but we knew Cutler was a gunslinger, not a Peyton Manning pocket quarterback. He’s already proven he’s got the ability and the drive to help us win, but when he’s forced to do it alone, we end up with games like Thursday night’s.

I don’t think that anyone should regret the trade for Cutler, but it is pretty clear that the team has many deficiencies beyond what we thought was the biggest one.

by Virto on Nov 16, 2009 3:33 PM CST up reply actions  

i like what jamie dukes said:

“You couldn’t grab Chris Chambers? You couldn’t bring in Marvin Harrison or Matt Jones just to see what they have in their tanks?” Dukes said. “You need someone who understands their craft, if for no other reason than to teach the young guys. When [Devin] Aromashodu is your most polished receiver, you have to have some problems.”

by No It All on Nov 16, 2009 3:39 PM CST up reply actions  

Since when is DA our most polished

WR when he’s only got one catch and very, very limited playing time?

"Those guys were the suckiest bunch of sucks that ever sucked" - Homer defines the Bears '09 season in less than 12 words.

by propheteer on Nov 16, 2009 4:58 PM CST up reply actions  

last year's non-playing earl bennett is the target cutler is most comfortable throwing to

That was the Bear’s plan. They are content with that. 1 catch, limited playing time, sounds like DA is on pace for this organization.

by No It All on Nov 16, 2009 6:04 PM CST up reply actions  

The offensive minds on this team

are just plain offensive and a national embarrassment to the NFL. I’m absolutely thrilled they’re on at night again this week.

"Those guys were the suckiest bunch of sucks that ever sucked" - Homer defines the Bears '09 season in less than 12 words.

by propheteer on Nov 16, 2009 9:19 PM CST up reply actions  

NO!!

I can’t stand listening to Chris Collinsworth badmouth the Bears.

by No It All on Nov 16, 2009 9:43 PM CST up reply actions  

Who isn't badmouthing the Bears?

Wouldn’t you if you weren’t a fan? I’d be like…what a bunch of bums these Cubs Bears are!

"Those guys were the suckiest bunch of sucks that ever sucked" - Homer defines the Bears '09 season in less than 12 words.

by propheteer on Nov 16, 2009 10:03 PM CST up reply actions  

Collinsworth

is ESPCECIALLY douchey, though…can’t stand that smug jackhole.

by Amishbear on Nov 17, 2009 9:27 AM CST up reply actions  

It was sort of a "Rob Peter to Pay Paul" decision

Do I keep an average QB and draft some guys to help and support him – or do I give up the house and hope that the Pro Bowler can come in and make us all better?

Without Cutler, our offense pretty much sucks. But he obviously needs a lot more talent around him if he’s going to succeed in Chicago.

"Yes, risk taking is inherently failure-prone. Otherwise, it would be called sure-thing-taking." - Jim McMahon

by JimmyMack on Nov 16, 2009 4:57 PM CST up reply actions  

Starting with O-line

You can say a lot of things about the WRs, but the majority of the blame has to be on them. No chemistry, no discipline, virtually no talent.

"Those guys were the suckiest bunch of sucks that ever sucked" - Homer defines the Bears '09 season in less than 12 words.

by propheteer on Nov 16, 2009 5:01 PM CST up reply actions  

I second that,

an expletive laced rant is just what the dr. ordered.

by Mike Mueller on Nov 16, 2009 4:53 PM CST up reply actions  

For Turner

is there anything lower tha fail, like maybe -178466867387391827398649583290.575%

by DaHamsta on Nov 16, 2009 2:45 PM CST reply actions  

Its been said on here by wiser people than me that coaches can only work with the talent they're given.

That said. Angelo must go. He makes horrible player/personnel decisions. He has ignored the offensive line like he wishes they would just go away. He got us another “gunslinger” but didn’t give him many bullets. He over invested on the defensive line as if the defense really does win you games, even without an offense and special teams. And then he adds to that debacle by extending injury prone players, and questionable coaches to long term contracts that may bury this organization for years. Oh, and top that all off by being so terrible at high round draft picks that he finally just traded them all away.
Jerry Angelo has failed the Chicago Bears!

If you can't laugh at yourself you must not be very funny.

by Just Dave on Nov 16, 2009 3:06 PM CST reply actions  

I agree

I think you have to place most of the blame for this debacle right there at the top. Angelo may have been a decent scout back in the day, but he is not a good GM.

"Yes, risk taking is inherently failure-prone. Otherwise, it would be called sure-thing-taking." - Jim McMahon

by JimmyMack on Nov 16, 2009 5:02 PM CST up reply actions  

Angelo and Phillips are the cancer within the franchise

The Bears have completely lost the ability to evaluate, draft, and develop talent. They must be the first to go. A new management team could then hire an effective player personnel and coaching staff. We were in deep trouble the day JA became “fixated on the QB position”. He was dumb enough to think he knew more about evaluating a QB than McDaniels. Jerry….ever occur to you why McD/Denver didn’t want Cutler?

by rocko1 on Nov 16, 2009 3:17 PM CST reply actions  

Um

So McDaniels is a better talent evaluator, all based on the Cutler-Orton trade?

So the whole thing’s resolved, then? Just like that? (Even while Orton’s looking at missed time for an injury, and the Brocos just lost their 3rd (?) straight, and this last one to a team with a losing record?)
And while the Broncos have yet to even cash in all their trade chips?

I think it’s a tad bit premature to completely dismiss Cutler’s acquisition as a bad move…especially given all the crap around him (poor coaching/play-calling, o-line woes, mediocre or developing WRs, etc.)

Exhibit’s A is the career of Manning. Where was he at this same point?

Matt Ryan and Flacco have hit fast-forward on the QB expectations button in the NFL. Too often now, judgements come fast and absolute.

I expect if Cutler and the Bears miraculously pull an 11-5 or 10-6 finish out of their furry rumps, you’ll still feel the same way?

What if both Bears and Broncs are home watching the playoffs together (a likely scenario)?

I do agree that the executive decision-making about personnel has been atrocious for the most part…

Most damning of all, in my opinion—the successes of former Bears on other teams: Chris Harris, Thomas Jones, Marc Colombo, Bradley, Gage, Gandy, McGowan, Benson, etc etc. Not that some of those weren’t no brainers to ship out at the time…(ahem, BENSON, but others were no brainers to KEEP, namely, Jones, could’ve franchised Berrian for a year, etc.)

So, I’m sort of with you.

But to write off the Cutler deal as a blunder at this stage of the game is akin to saying the Revolutionary War was over at the Boston Massacre—just doesn’t make sense.

by Amishbear on Nov 16, 2009 4:11 PM CST up reply actions  

Nice!

I was very upset with him letting go of Gage, Harris, and Columbo. They have all flourished with coaches who know how to develop talent.

"Those guys were the suckiest bunch of sucks that ever sucked" - Homer defines the Bears '09 season in less than 12 words.

by propheteer on Nov 16, 2009 5:03 PM CST up reply actions  

I have never seen one

shred of evidence that JA has a clue when it comes to the position of QB. Yes, I believe Cutler is not a good QB. Yes, I think McDaniels knows a heck of alot more about the position than Angelo. Yes, I believe the Bears were taken to the cleaners on the trade. Yes, I think Orton is a better and smarter QB than Cutler. Imo, Cutler just doesn’t have what it takes between his ears to develop into a franchise QB. Arm strength is great if you know what to do with it, but is not a prerequisite for being a great QB. The position is all about intelligence and leadership on the field. Would Cutler play better with a stronger supporting cast? Of course, but imo, he will never come close to a Manning, Brady and all the other top 12 QBs in the NFL today. Just my opinion.

by rocko1 on Nov 16, 2009 7:46 PM CST up reply actions  

Okay

Time will tell.

I’m just not so ready and willing to stick a fork in him over a few bad outings, when the rest of the team around him (including—and ESPECIALLY—the coaches) are pretty damn awful.

Keep in mind the Chicago fan syndrome—when it comes to QBs especially—is that the grass is always greener on the other side…right?

Imagine, seriously: with Orton at the helm right now, I believe this team could very well be at 2-7.

Is there one of our losses this year where you believe Orton may have fared better?
I might say the SF game, because the defense did their thing. But other than that?

Cutler’s lost us a couple (not as many as our defense!), but he’s won us a couple, too.
Plus, with the -line being what it is (ISN’’T), Orton would be in a full freakin’ body cast by now.
He’s about as mobile and elusive as a sack of wet anvils.

And I think Cutler IS more than arm strength: he’s mobility, he’s GUTS, he’s tough, he’s fiery, he can extend plays, he can scramble…given the weapons and protection, he can make defenses PAY.
I haven’t seen anything BUT leadership from him on (or off) the field.

Yeah, he’s made a lot of dumb throws, but a lot of that is also because there’s a defender climbing into his asterisk a nanosecond after the snap, on just about every play.

And he’s trying to make a big play, forcing things, because he HAS TO. When the team’s down by 5 TDS, what do you want him to do? Play it safe?

He has no running game to lean on, and inexperienced and/or mediocre WRs (short, to boot), who he’s hardly played with and who are either slipping and falling down, breaking off routes, not getting off the line fast enough, or not getting separation.

He has an o-line that penalizes itself into 3rd and longs ALL the time. 3rd and 19. 3rd and 20. 3rd and 15. 3rd and infinity. ANY QB would struggle while being put in that siutaion repeatedly.
He has an O-coordinator who is predictable, and fails to put Cutler into adavantageous situations (such as bootlegs, roll-outs, options, etc.—Cutler’s passer rating is over 100 when he throws from out of the pocket).

I’m not exonerating Cutler of his mistakes here—he has some responsibility in a couple of our losses.
But keeping it all in perspective, it’s far too early and the team is FAR too bad to cast a final judgment on him at this point.

Denver, Dungy, Schlereth, McDanny Boy, the media-at-large—all have said what you’re saying now. A variation of “I told you so”.

Fine.

But the other side of the Cutler coin is incredible talent and off-the-charts potential.

So when (as I believe) he’s ultimately making Pro Bowls as a Bear, and leading us through an era of perennial playoff appearances, I hope your willing to hear “I told you so’s” from those of us who still believe.

by Amishbear on Nov 17, 2009 9:57 AM CST up reply actions  

Just remembered, too

McDaniels FIRST choice for QB was actually Matt Cassel—and how’s that working out over in KC?

So he’s not really the QB talent-evaluator prodigy you might think…

To answer your last question, simply, about if Jerry ever considered why Micky Dick didn’t ever want Cutler, the answer’s simple: I’m sure he saw it as the ego clash it was.

Regardless of who’s side you take in the split, the fact remains: Irreconciliable differences.

by Amishbear on Nov 17, 2009 3:20 PM CST up reply actions  

Lol!

Feel good now? We agree on absolutely nothing, but your replies are funny to read. Take care.

by rocko1 on Nov 17, 2009 4:16 PM CST up reply actions  

Angelo gets an F – he has no idea how to evaluate talent, especially in the trenches.

I’ll still give Lovie a C-, because there’s no talent to work with at almost all the positions. Bob Babich has increased his grade from an F to a D-.

Ron Turner’s been getting an F since 2006.

Is Jerry Angelo fired yet?

by ES46NE10 on Nov 16, 2009 4:05 PM CST reply actions  

No matter how much we all bitch about JA, Lovie, Ron T

Even if they fire some of them do you really think they’ll spend big money on proven coaches?

by Daseabeez on Nov 16, 2009 5:02 PM CST reply actions  

Probably not

But isn’t Lovie one of the highest paid coaches in the NFL?

"Yes, risk taking is inherently failure-prone. Otherwise, it would be called sure-thing-taking." - Jim McMahon

by JimmyMack on Nov 16, 2009 8:53 PM CST up reply actions  

Tied for the highest paid

$$$ I’m not sure why this article is not updated with a 2009 label.

"Those guys were the suckiest bunch of sucks that ever sucked" - Homer defines the Bears '09 season in less than 12 words.

by propheteer on Nov 16, 2009 9:28 PM CST up reply actions  

This is another valid reason why Lovie won't be fired.

Not on the hot seat he remains.

"Those guys were the suckiest bunch of sucks that ever sucked" - Homer defines the Bears '09 season in less than 12 words.

by propheteer on Nov 16, 2009 9:31 PM CST up reply actions  

I am going to do the "Celebrity Apprentice" version of this

- Lovie Smith: Trump says: When running a team, you have to take responsibility when the team fails… and you have failed miserably to get your team to play up to their potential. YOU ARE FIRED!

- Ron Turner: Trump says: The best thing I can say about your performance is that, at least, you are not Bob Babich. Disgraceful. You make me sick. YOU ARE FIRED!

- Rod Marinelli: Trump says: I am not pleased with the outcome of what your committee has done so far, but you are at least showing some initiative… you are coming back next week, but I am keeping an eye on you.

- Bob Babich: Trump says: You are performing worse than Ron Turner, and I fired him because he was horrible. I am going to need to have the room fumigated to get rid of your stench. Obviously, YOU ARE FIRED!

- Jerry Angelo: Trump says: I saved you for last because I have to admit I like some of the things you have done, and I respect the courage it took to pull the trigger on the Cutler trade. That was a gutsy thing to do, and it will probably work out well… You also had the foresight to sign him to a contract extension to get that off the table when your team still had cap room. Having said all of that, you absolutely failed in finding offensive linemen for a team that NEEDS a strong offensive line. You failed to find any pro receivers. You failed in evaluating talent and let people like Thomas Jones go for a song… and you have failed to draft consistently well. Although you have done some good things here, the bottom line is that your weaknesses outweigh your strengths, and your team has underachieved because of it. Jerry, I wish you well in the future… but… YOU ARE FIRED!

by sabbath999 on Nov 16, 2009 5:23 PM CST reply actions   1 recs

Tough topic as they all look terrible this year.

Jerry Angelo – If a GM has a history of missing on talent in the first two rounds and/or can’t identify potential on the offensive side of the ball, what good is he? He gambled it all on Cutler, but didnt’ upgrade the receiver position.

- Lovie Smith – Doing a great job running the defense, not so great as the head coach.

- Ron Turner – I’ll agree with above that Turner is failing. Show me that Cutler is changing all run calls to passes at the line and I’ll change my opinion.

- Rod Marinelli – Make this guy the D Coordinator already.

- Bob Babich – File Babich under the Terry Shea category of failed Lovie promotions.

if this was still new to me, i wouldn't understand

by N Oakley on Nov 16, 2009 5:40 PM CST reply actions  

Just curious...

For the folks who think Bob Babich needs to be fired… what gives?

You are all gentlemen (and ladies) and good judges of cheap whiskey.

by Dane Noble on Nov 16, 2009 5:57 PM CST reply actions  

He still retains the title of coach.

The guy might, just maybe be a decent linebackers coach. I’ll give you that. Not really all that sure how to it is to be a positions coach so I can’t speak to any level of talent the man may possess, but he was a disaster at coordinator last year with an available Urlacher and supporting cast. What really gets me though is his complete lack of a credible resume. He coached Lovies son at an unsuccessful D2 program. That’s basically it. And Lovie thought he was qualified to take over for Chico. Don’t get me started on that. As Lovie famously said (with an arrogant wave of the finger) “Trust me”.

If you can't laugh at yourself you must not be very funny.

by Just Dave on Nov 16, 2009 6:52 PM CST up reply actions  

damn

always a misspelling I notice after I proof then post. Should read not sure how tough it is to be a positions coach…..

If you can't laugh at yourself you must not be very funny.

by Just Dave on Nov 16, 2009 6:53 PM CST up reply actions  

Hm..

Angelo – potential fail, pending cutler development – props for the Cutler trade and (trying) to solidify the O-line, even if only temporarily…but it has been ignored far too much over the last few years.
Lovie Smith – emotional fail – needs to get a bit more fired up at this team, the talent is there(excepting the O line) and it needs a good nip in the butt to get producing apparently.
Ron Turner – epic fail – L2makemoreinventiveplaycallsthanthereversewithdevinhester.
Rod Marinelli – hmm.. – why isn’t he the D coordinator? considering the mediocrity he was given on the D line they have looked decent.
Bob Babich – nuclear fail? – nuff said.

by Pretender85 on Nov 16, 2009 6:48 PM CST reply actions  

My Take

- Jerry Angelo- Ok but not great because he didn’t get any help for the Bears both offensively and defensively

- Lovie Smith- He’s Trying to call the right plays for a banged-up defense, he doing ok

- Ron Turner-Fire Him right Away, he’s part of the reason the offense isn’t up to it’s potential

- Rod Marinelli- The Bears, in general seem to get more pressure, so he’s ok.

- Bob Babich-he shouldn’t even be a defensive coordinator with the way he’s really brought down the Bears

by duneman on Nov 16, 2009 8:28 PM CST reply actions  

For Replacements

Sorry, I forgot to add this in, but i think these coaches would be good replacements for the weak links listed above:
Ron Turner-Dan Henning
Bob Babich-Rod Marinelli
Also, the Bears Should Start Kevin Shaffer instead of Chris Williams, He’s not doing anything on the right side.

by duneman on Nov 16, 2009 8:59 PM CST up reply actions  

Shaffer

Do you really want to see a worse offensive performance? I’m afraid with Kevin starting they would be.

"Those guys were the suckiest bunch of sucks that ever sucked" - Homer defines the Bears '09 season in less than 12 words.

by propheteer on Nov 16, 2009 9:24 PM CST up reply actions  

OK?!?!

when not getting “any help for the Bears both offensively and defensively” is ok your organization has problems.

by No It All on Nov 16, 2009 9:46 PM CST up reply actions  

Jerry Angelo –tried covering up his failure with the big trade with Cutler, has selected a few good players but what happens when they go down, there is nobody else…roster depth is slim….rating: “losing control”
Lovie Smith –always hated Lovie’s non passionate expressions….especially his face when his team is getting blown out…he says nothing…….just think hes too calm at times but besides that he is in denial over this season…i think he’ll be back next year hopefully with some new players and coaches….dont think he can handle the defensive calls and entire team at the same time…really really hate his motto…“this is a running team, we run off the bus” needs to get with it and just realize that running isnt always going to work…
Ron Turner – never feel like he is using his entire playbook….FAIL
Rod Marinelli – pressure has increased to a certain degree….probably the only coach showing preparation for games….
Bob Babich – Don’t understand why he just wasnt fired…feel bad because he has no back up players though….
WHOLE SEASON (so far)—soooo disappointed…starting to feel bad for Cutler…hate to see his career doomed because he plays for the bears…

by bearsfan87 on Nov 17, 2009 12:04 AM CST reply actions  

- Jerry Angelo: Ultimately, the personnel decisions fall on Jerry. He made the big move to get Cutler, but then failed three times trying to protect him. I liked the Pace and Schaffer moves at the time and don’t really fault him for signing either. The Omiyale one concerned me a bit more, but what do I know. It always feels like Jerry does just enough to keep his job and not much more. Entering this season, it already felt like JA was on his ninth life. I do see Jerry being here next year to finish out his contract but not much after.

- Lovie Smith: I’ve been a big fan of Lovie all along. I’ve disagreed with some of his moves at times. Like getting rid of Chico to bring in his friend Babbich, or the way he moves players out of their natural positions because they get paid more or because they’re more “athletic”. However, I love that he never lets the fans decide his starting lineup and that the players (at least used to) seemed to respect him and wanted to play for him. I believe Lovie will share Jerry’s fate.

- Ron Turner: I’ve never been much for the “fire Ron” banter, because I thought he did alright with what he had to work with. This season isn’t much different, Ron can’t dial up the plays to help Jay succeed because the pocket collapses before Jay finishes a three step drop. However, I’d like to see more roll-outs and bootlegs to help with some of the pressure and utilize Jay’s ability to move. All this being said, I think it’s time for a change. Whether it’s really Turner’s fault or not, it’s time to try something different. I don’t see Turner running our Offense in 2010.

- Rod Marinelli: Rod’s interesting to me. He was highly touted as one of the best in the business at his craft. And he came out of the gates firing, getting great production out of Ogun, Brown and even Anderson. And then nothing for a couple games. I’m fine with Rod in his current capacity and think he’ll be here for a few more years.

- Bob Babich: I hated him as our DC, but Babich seems to have found his home again as our linebackers coach. He’s had less to work with than anyone this year and has made them look pretty darn good most of the time. Players have been burned, yes, but he’s working with twos and threes regularly in some of the toughest positions on our defense. Babich will be here long after his mentor is gone.

- Dave Toub: Huge man crush on this guy. Dave Toub p*sses excellence.

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by David Taylor on Nov 17, 2009 8:31 AM CST reply actions  

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