Years of neglecting the Offensive Line finally catching up with Angelo
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The acquisition of Jay Cutler for Jerry Angelo should feel like the gift and the curse to him. The Gift, Jerry Angelo finally has his franchise QB that he’s been struggling to land since he was general manager in Tampa Bay. The Curse, It really exposes how much Angelo struggles bringing in offensive talent through the draft. The Proof is in the pudding, when you look at the talent on the offensive line. You draft Chris Williams who is a finesse LT, and put him on the Right side. I really hope they are not banking on Williams to work out at RT especially when they could have had a proto typical RT in Jeff Otah. You also bring in an aging LT to protect your new franchise QB. Yes Orlando Pace is a future Hall of Fame player, but that should have been Chris Williams’s job. Instead Jerry and the coaching staff thought it was such the wonderful idea to put an aging LT next to a guy playing LG for the first time. I am not down on Omiyale playing tackle, but here’s another guy that had no business starting, especially when your starter at LG last season was blowing him away in training camp competition. The way Angelo tried to fixed this O-line, there’s no wonder Cutler has looked like he regress and Forte looks like he’s going through a sophomore slump. I refuse to believe Forte is the next Anthony Thomas and I also refuse to believe Cutler is the next Rex Grossman. Yes Jerry it all starts with the quarterback, but you also need a wall to protect him, not a bunch of turn styles. You need to draft and have your coaching staff develop these guys, not skip over talent like Duke Robinson in the 5th round only to select a LB that didn’t even have a shot at making the roster. The majority of teams around the league build their offensive lines through the draft (Carolina, New England, and Indy are perfect examples) not the scrap heap in free agency. If Angelo never neglected the O-line after the 06 season, he wouldn’t have to reach for average to below average offensive lineman in free agency. The only time Angelo should add pieces to O-line through free agency, is if there's a above average to impact player in that class. The 2010 off-season marks an important one for Angelo. It will be the off-season to see if Angelo takes the necessary steps to build a competitive offense around Jay Cutler. We will find out soon if Angelo is capable of changing the culture on offense, now that he has his franchise QB.
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I agree with your opinions for the most part, though I will say that I think the Bears should have acquired Alan Faneca when they had the chance.
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by Maelvampyre on Nov 19, 2009 8:08 AM CST reply actions 0 recs
Faneca would have been a nice pick up...
by Lester A. Wiltfong Jr. on Nov 19, 2009 9:41 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
He would've been too expensive for such a cheap team
Even if Angelo had wanted to pursue him. Now he’s helping Thomas Jones put up big numbers in the New York.
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by JimmyMack on Nov 19, 2009 10:08 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Good point on the Robinson miss
I kept waiting for Angelo to grab an O-lineman, and needless to say, Lance Louis in the 7th round was a pretty half-arsed effort. In hindsight, did we even need a linebacker when we grabbed that guy from OSU (I can’t even remember his name, now) in the 5th round?
I guess Angelo figured his big free agent signings were the real deal…
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by JimmyMack on Nov 19, 2009 9:55 AM CST reply actions 0 recs
It turns out
that apparently we didn’t.
Oh, and for the record, that’s Marcus Freeman out of Ohio State, taken shortly after J. Knox.
Here’s the roster page from chicagobears.com—> here
You’ll notice his name is nowhere near it.
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by KDoggers on Nov 19, 2009 10:23 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
That's right, Marcus Freeman
Too bad he didn’t make it through the final cuts.
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by JimmyMack on Nov 19, 2009 7:36 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Biggs reported that the Bears thought he lacked intensity and didn’t play or move as instinctively as you’d like for a linebacker (it was in response to a reader question).
I can’t believe that, with an offensive line that was getting long in the tooth, we didn’t draft one until the 7th round, and even then he was clearly a “project”…..
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by Spongie on Nov 22, 2009 3:31 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
It's like they're completely inept on drafting offensively
Since Jerry’s been here, six of our eight first round picks have been used to draft offensive players. I find it hard to believe that we’ve spent our most valuable draft pick six out of eight times on an offensive player, and our offense is in shambles personnel-wise. It’s hard to put blame on Jerry for making bad picks as only David Terrell isn’t playing anywhere, and only Rex isn’t starting. Bad luck has been an issue for his first round picks (Ced Benson and Marc Colombo), while the rest are decent contributors (though still waiting for Williams to take over as the long-term answer at LT).
But, at the same time, there’s no denying the drafting ineptitude of the Bears. Nobody can deny that picking up someone like Lance Briggs in the third round or Tillman in the second round from his small school was a steal, but for all the hits, there’s been an undeniably disturbing number of misses. All the Michael Okwos and Dan Bazuins of his draft history are coming back to haunt us, along with everyone from the 2005 NFL draft that isn’t on the team anymore.
In terms of offensive lineman, here’s a list of offensive lineman that Angelo has drafted while in Chicago (originally compiled by Windy City Liar on the official Bears message board):
2002 – Marc Columbo, T (1st round)
2002 – Terrence Metcalf, G (3rd)
2003 – Bryan Anderson, G (7th)
2006 – Tyler Reed, G (7th)
2007 – Josh Beekman, G (4th)
2007 – Aaron Bryant, T (7th)
2008 – Chris Williams, T (1st)
2008 – Chester Adams, G (7th)
2008 – Kirk Barton, T (7th)
2009 – Lance Louis, G (7th)
Breaking it down, only one of those is a starter on this team (Williams). One of them is a starter on another team (Colombo), and two are on the Bears roster (Beekman, Louis). Six of those guys aren’t even on a team. Only three have been drafted in the third round or better, including five who were basically seventh round throwaway picks. That’s just horrid if we pride ourselves in building through the draft, but manage one starter in seven years. Unfortunately, Angelo is a defensive mind, and a defensive drafter (who’s come across some decent players in his time), but who’s calling the shots in terms of who we draft offensively, and why are we not calling for his head?
by dkguy55 on Nov 19, 2009 11:00 AM CST reply actions 0 recs
Beekman's a starter too.
But yes, it’s hard to build a solid OL when the majority of the draft picks are in late rounds.
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by Dane Noble on Nov 19, 2009 11:15 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Angelo way of building an offensive line is just sad when you look at that list by windy city liar
He likes to build offensive lines through free agency, but the problem with that is you hardly see above average to impact players at the position hit the market. Offensive lineman is a very valuabe position in football, so your not going to see many good players at the position in free agency a lot. I think Angelo should be using both the draft and free agency to build a solid offensive line and so far in his tenure here he hasn’t done that.
by NiqueBears on Nov 19, 2009 12:56 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Angelo likes to pick up his O-lineman in the 7th round
Almost like they’re an after thought, or something…
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by JimmyMack on Nov 19, 2009 7:40 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
How does he even have a chance?
What we need:
A #1 receiver
A #2 receiver
The whole damn line or a coach who knows how to develop players hired immediately. Or both. I feel we do have talent in our current ranks but until they allow players to play their natural positions it will be difficult.
And that just offense.
Good luck with the picks we have and Angelos history
by TheMan1 on Nov 19, 2009 12:51 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
I think you have a good #2 receiver in Hester and Knox can maybe develop into a good #2 too
I think a impact #1 receiver would probably need to be acquire through the draft in 2011. Brandon Marshall, Vincent Jackson, and Braylon Edwards are a long shot to hit the market next year.
by NiqueBears on Nov 19, 2009 1:02 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
The Bears have not neglected the O-line
as they have not made the right moves.
As for drafting Otah instead of Williams, this has been refuted already. The Bears needed a LT, Williams is a LT, Otah is not.
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by lookingdeadred on Nov 19, 2009 1:32 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
indeed
they did try to address the line, just unfortunate the guys they picked don’t seem like much help. i still wonder why they bothered getting shaffer. looks like a whie qasim mitchell out there this year, yuck.
by reefermadness3 on Nov 19, 2009 5:11 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I'm not against the drafting of Chris Williams over Otah and understand the decision to pick him at that time
I’m just saying I hope they not banking on him working out at RT when his natural position is LT.
by NiqueBears on Nov 19, 2009 6:09 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I don't think they're banking on him at RT
My understanding is he’s only there b/c Pace didn’t want any part of being on the right side. If we lose two more games, I say get Pace outta there ASAP and put C. Dub at the position we drafted him for. As for the rest of the line…. yuck!
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by Acreman20 on Nov 20, 2009 10:18 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Exactly.
The only thing is, with changing positions like that, I wonder how practical it would be.
Williams has been learning RT all year, and Frank Omiyale (who might be the next RT) has been learning LG all year. I wonder how long it takes for a player to transition like that in an NFL offense?
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by Dane Noble on Nov 20, 2009 10:28 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
True
Can’t be too easy to make the transition, but like I said, after 2-3 more losses they might as well start now rather than this off-season.
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by Acreman20 on Nov 20, 2009 10:39 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Agreed
If we see Williams moved to LT – a sure sign of giving it up for this year.
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by Maelvampyre on Nov 20, 2009 11:40 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I would like them to make the changes now
as I don’t forsee a miraculous run of victories that push the Bears into the playoffs, so why not start making the changes now. Move Williams to LT and Omiyale to RT.
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by lookingdeadred on Nov 21, 2009 12:09 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
If RT is Omiyale's "natural" position
it should not be a difficult thing for him to move back to RT.
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by lookingdeadred on Nov 21, 2009 12:07 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Why would you assume they are doing that?
Do you actually think Pace is a long term solution at LT? Clearly he is holding the spot until the Bears believe Williams can take over. In the meantime, play Williams at RT.
I always turn to the sports section first. The sports page records people's accomplishments; the front page has nothing but man's failures.
~Earl Warren
by lookingdeadred on Nov 21, 2009 12:05 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Hey Red
Did you just contradict yourself on three consecutive posts?Wtf?
You're being very Un-Dude right now.
by IslandBoodler87 on Nov 22, 2009 9:19 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Not at all.
I always turn to the sports section first. The sports page records people's accomplishments; the front page has nothing but man's failures.
~Earl Warren
by lookingdeadred on Nov 23, 2009 11:18 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Cutler the next Grossman?
Cutler is on pace to shatter Grossman’s turnover mark. At least Rex could throw the deep ball, Cutler can’t even do that.
BEAR DOWN!
by DaBears2234 on Nov 23, 2009 3:55 AM CST reply actions 0 recs
Sexy Rexy had a legitament deep threat
Bernard Berrian could go deep. Rex used to just throw the ball blindly as high and far as he could, and Berrian could adjust to the poorly thrown ball and sometimes catch it. I know Cutler overthrew two deep balls early last game, but Olsen should have been able to catch the first one, the Hester throw was bad.
by Don't Fear the Reaper on Nov 23, 2009 4:07 PM CST reply actions 0 recs

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